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I'm a christian and I believe the rapture will be this year(2009)

 
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Some observations about this upcoming "Birchat HaChamah"

".....We are currently very near the end of a 28-year SOLAR CYCLE which began April 8, 1981 and will end this year on April 8, 2009....."


Birchat HaChamah/April 8, 2009- Rapture Related?

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Birchat HaChamah/April 8, 2009 - passover eve

Basically...Birchat HaChamah is a very rare day of Jewish observance of the 28 year solar cycle.....and it sometimes announced with a horn/trumpet/trump

The last one was in 1981.

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There's a bit of controversy in the Jewish community
about how often Birchat HaChamah coincides with passover eve [ Nissan 14 - the day Jesus was crucified].....but , nonetheless , it's very rare.....

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Yes, we are crossing over to the other side, lead by our Lord. We shall fulfill the spring feasts again, like Passover and First Fruits. I hope we are taken this year, but if not, then the spring feasts of 2012 look possible if a Mid-Trib catching away is what the Lord has designed.
I find the information about the cosmos lining up with the date of creation this year exciting. God will make all things new.

1.- Pesach, Wednesday morning, April 8 2009 (14 Nisan 5769).
Is there anything special about this date, 14 Nisan 5769?
The last time Birchat HaChamah was recited on Erev Pesach was in 5685 (1925).
This year, Erev Pesach will be only the third time in the last 1300 years that both the preparation of an Eruv Tavshilin and the recitation of Birchat HaChamah will occur on the same day....."


2.- "....Birchat HaChamah falling on the day before (erev) Pesach is a rare event, having occurred only three times since creation. A person would be very fortunate to bless the sun on this fortuitous day. Because we were redeemed from Egypt on Pesach, Nisan 15, to say the blessing as we are preparing for departure from slavery, suggests that HaShem is preparing us for something related to redemption, renewal, and creation...."

3.- "....Birchat HaChamah is in honor of the sun's return back to its original position that it began from during the first week in creation. Therefore, it too represents the power of hitchadshut, renewal, and therefore, of redemption. Thus, in 5769, on Erev Pesach, the very night that we are doing our bedikat chametz (searching for leaven), we will experience a double portion of hitchadshut, of the power of renewal, and during the eighth year of a Shmita cycle that has its own power of redemption built in. (5768 is a shmita year, thus 5768 is the eighth [or first] year.)...."


4.- "....According to the Bible and the Torah, the sun was born, with the stars and the moon, on the 4th day of the CREATION (Genesis 1: 14). In the Jewish tradition, every 28th year one prays with gratitude at the time when the sun stands again at the same point it stood on the 4th day of creation. The first time the solar cycle return happened on the Eve of Passover (Erev Pesach) was when Moses led the Jewish people out of Egypt after they had been freed from slavery and guided them across the miraculously parted sea!! Another occasion when it occurred on an Erev Pesach was at the time of the Purim miracle (the Purim miracle happened around Pesach, when Queen Esther saved her people from destruction by the Persian King). As mentioned, the next Birkat HaChama will occur again on EREV PESACH in 8 April 2009 – which will be the 11th time in Biblical History. And Kadosh Elyon said it will the 3rd most significant one. We will hopefully have a nice surprise...on the Eve of this next Passover. So let us put our attention on this gateway of opportunity, so that we can hopefully bring our world closer to the Geula (Messianic Times)…through wonderful miracles!...."



Below is some information, and more will be gathered as we move along. It is indeed paramount to understand the significance of this coming year, as we will be faced with many worldly challenges.

When will the next Birkat HaChama (Birkat haShemesh or Sun Blessing) take place? Birkat HaChama will next be said on Wednesday, 8 April in the year 2009 (Hebrew date: 14 Nissan 5769). Is there anything special about this date, 14 Nissan 5769? There might be: the Kadosh Elyon (the "Ostrovster Admor") wrote that there are only 3 times in 6,000 years of Jewish history when Birkat HaChama falls on 14 Nissan. These are:

Prior to being redeemed from Egypt.
Prior to the miracle of Purim.
In the year 5769.

Since the first 2 occurrences preceded miracles and redemption, the Admor wrote that in the year 5769 the same will occur: This will be the last time ever and shortly afterwards, the redemption must come, b'h.
Note: The Ostrovster Admor wrote that Birkat HaChama falls on 14 Nissan only 3 times in history, when, in fact, the year 5769 will be the 11th time that this occurs! (The last time was on 8 April 1925). Perhaps he was referring only to those times when Birkat HaChama precedes a major redemption. Certainly 5769 will be the last time when this can happen.

Another interesting aspect of this date is that it is said that the Moshiach (Messiah) ben David will arrive at the end of a 7-year cycle. The year 5768 is a shmitta (sabbatical) year, and is followed by 5769, the year in which we recite Birkat HaChama. Note, however, that Birkat HaChama will always fall on the year after a sabbatical year. [Dr. Julian Schamroth]
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bump hfop i believe the rapture is indeed this year 2009, maybe march, april, may, 2009
antichrist arises around may or june 2009, in the beginning of war, in Jerusalem.
and that the tribulation has been shortened to 3.5 years, end of the world dec 21 2012.
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please tell us what is important!
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we will be changed (into subatomic particles) Science says this can happen! Our bodies in this illusion of 3D can go into 5D with a change in magnetics specifically electromagnetic changes ! Heck read up on it I guess!They say this is how Jesus was changed into immortality! Its within the laws of the universe as a possibility!
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pains in the stomach huh? I would go to your local er ans check yourself for apendicitis. i dont believe any of this is going to happen. Long live humanity bitches 5a
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I forgot this:

From Last Post: SOLAR CYCLE = 28 YEARS (April 8, 1981; 4-8-81 to April 8, 2009; 4-8-09)

LUNAR CYCLE = 19 YEARS (October 2, 1997; 10-2-97 to October 2; 10-2-16) Jewish New Year = Trumpets = 10-3-2016

It is clear that we have a 7 year OVERLAP HERE: 2009-2016

PREVIOUS 7 YR OVERLAP: 1750-1757

NEXT 7 YR. OVERLAP: 2282-2289

Jews take Jerusalem during 6 day War – pointing to the Prophetic End of 6 days and the near coming of Jesus Christ: 2 Peter 3:8,9, Psalm 90, Genesis 1 & 2

6-5-67 to 6-10-67; 6-7-67

This set the stage for the 2nd Coming of Jesus prophesied in DANIEL’S 70TH WEEK, just as the 1st COMING was Prophesied therein: DANIEL 9:24-27

7 wks, 62 wks then 1 week. 7 + 62 = 69 weeks to 1st coming; the streets and the Wall were built in troublous times during the first 7 wks. After Babylonian Captivity

The streets and the Wall have been built again in troublous times since 6-7-1967; 6-7-67: the last 7 years or 1 week will also be yrs 42-49 of the 7 wks to the 2nd COMING.

Israel was punished 70 years for 490 years disobedience: see Leviticus 26, 2 Chronicles 36, Jeremiah 25 & 29, Daniel 9

Israel was punished 490 years for 3430 years disobedience; Or from the Exodus – Promised Land Wars until NOW.

1967 + 49 years = 2016; final week 2009-2016 is the 70th week of Daniel’s Prophecy and the last 7 yrs of the 7 weeks to the 2nd COMING.
THE POINT: The 7 YR OVERLAP of the Sun & Moon matches the FINAL 7 YEARS OR 1 WEEK OF THE 7 WEEKS FROM ISRAEL TAKING JERUSALEM ON 6-7-67.
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I don't get why being raptured is considered so much more desirable than just dying and going to heaven. To me they seem very much the same.
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I've thought it could be sooner,but I think 2012 could be the day of the rapture as well

No one knows but God. Not the angels or the Son, only God knows the day.
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The reference you are speaking of is not talking about the Rapture but the Second Comin of Christ NOT the Rapture look at the verse prior to "No one knows but God. Not the angels or the Son, only God knows the day." This entire chapter has nothing to do with Rapture.
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Nobody knows the day or hour as God has said,but I have felt the pains in my stomach for over a year now...as god said to be wise as to when his son is near.

I don't know the day,month and very well might be wrong about it being 2009...but I don't think so my friends

I believe 2012 fits into the 7-year Great tribulation" as well,but not sure as to why

What I do know is if I'm right and the rapture is around May,june or July time period(and the beginning of the "7 year Great tribulation" period),then 2012 will fit the middle of the tribulation period.

What dec. 21st 2012 is,I don't know....

I could be very wrong and that could be the day of the rapture,since it's a specific 1 day date by the mayans and dozens of other cultures and peoples


Antichrist signing 7 year peace agreement with Israel is the key though...Until that day comes,then we are NOT there yet.

But the rapture could very well be before this as well so...(if your pre-trib)

In the middle of peace agreement or (3 1/2 years) antichrist breaks the peace agreement and starts war with israel

also kills 2 witnesses around this time and they lay in the streets dead for world to see for 3 days

Also committs "Abomination of desolation" in the new Temple built in Jeruselum(Antichrist goes into temple and claims to be GOD)

You all will also have to wear the "Mark of the beast" during this period as well in the middle...(those who do not believe jesus Christ is lord and Saviour)you will have to wear the mark of the antichrist or the number of his name or his name to buy,sell or trade

Those who are not raptured and repent before Jesus return will either have to flee the hills or be killed by the antichrist and his army (but you will go to heaven and be with your king)

Those who have the "mark of the beast" cannot be saved...I'm sorry.it will be too late for you and there will be no hope for you with that Abomination and terrible Blasphemy.

The most common death will be by decapitation(head)

I am pretty confident that I know who the antichrist is,but I can never say it is fact as I could be wrong.

I believe the antichrist is here and his name is an "Abomination"

Masons Abominate Believers in United States...or(in US)

I was told to tell you guys this...so

Good luck and be wise!
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If you have pains in your stomach, the first thing I would do is check with my doctor to see if there's a digestive or kidney problem.
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When Jesus appears in the sky amid loud booms and swirling lights, a bright cloud will come down to Earth and gather up you true believers. Then, the cloud will lift up and fly away, leaving the rest of us pagans all to ourselves on the Earth. I, for one, encourage you to look for Jesus in the sky and to get yourself onto that cloud no matter what. I have already decided that I definitely do not want to go where you're going. Leave us an Earth absent of all true believers. That sounds like heaven to me.


If Nuclear fallout,decapitation and torture on this planet is your cup of tea,then you will absolutely love it..

But guess what...?You will get to enjoy an eternity of this same fun as well when your life is over too

Have fun!
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You mean like where I am now? With you?

Thank you for your condemnation. Spoken like a true Christian!
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According to Matthew 13:30b, "...I will say to the Reapers, Gather ye together first the Tares (Children of the Devil Matt.13:38; Generational Satanist/Nephillim of the Illuminati bloodlines/ NWO/ Babylon the Great), and bind them in bundles to burn them; but gather the wheat (God's people of the covenant; separated from the chaff, the tares) into my barn."

Did you even know that verse was in the Bible? Have you ever heard it preached about in Church? Hmmmm; Well there it is in plain language, the Tares are the ones that are gathered out first. So that passage found in Matt. 24:37-44, about one being "taken" and the other one is left, is talking about the harvest of the tares, and not the "Rapture" of the saints.

You would be surprised at how much prophecy teaching that goes on out there is as far from being scriptural than it can be. It is better if you would just read the Bible for yourself and ask the Holy Spirit to give you the proper interpretation than to allow false prophets to lead you into a lie.
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According to Matthew 13:30b, "...I will say to the Reapers, Gather ye together first the Tares (Children of the Devil Matt.13:38; Generational Satanist/Nephillim of the Illuminati bloodlines/ NWO/ Babylon the Great), and bind them in bundles to burn them; but gather the wheat (God's people of the covenant; separated from the chaff, the tares) into my barn."

Did you even know that verse was in the Bible? Have you ever heard it preached about in Church? Hmmmm; Well there it is in plain language, the Tares are the ones that are gathered out first. So that passage found in Matt. 24:37-44, about one being "taken" and the other one is left, is talking about the harvest of the tares, and not the "Rapture" of the saints.

You would be surprised at how much prophecy teaching that goes on out there is as far from being scriptural than it can be. It is better if you would just read the Bible for yourself and ask the Holy Spirit to give you the proper interpretation than to allow false prophets to lead you into a lie.
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Right on.

And another false teaching going on nowadays is that we'll be separated from the Jews, i.e., raptured first, and then the Jews will be saved. This is the error of dispensationalism. The Bible clearly refutes this erroneous teaching. Ezekiel 37 says:

16Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and for all the house of Israel his companions:

17And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.

18And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?

19Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.

"Ephraim" is the Christians (the lost sheep of the house of Israel), and "Judah" is the Jews. God will bring us together into one "stick." And this all happens before Jesus returns.
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Okahyy...

and when you are proven wrong { liek the other 10 billion chrisitnas in the past who made simlair wrong predcitions }

will you admit it...or will you just move your wrong prediction, to another year...and be wrong again and then continue the cycle of religious errors until your demise ?
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The Bible is very clear that the final conflict of the world will be between the Satanic forces of islam and the Jews and Christians. When the Christians are raptured in 2012, the Jews who did not know their messiah will recognist that the Christians had it right and they will become evangelists for Christ greater than any the world has ever seen. Islam will slit their throats and cut off their heads for their testamony of the Word of God. So be it. God is going to come back and immediately kille Two Hundred Million Islamics who have invaded Israel.

Israel is God's Land of Eden, and he does not want any Satan worshippers on that soil. Thus Jesus kills all of the Islamics. Read about it in Revelation 19 and 20.


Excellent Sir Sidney Burton!

...and I agree with you 100%

and you may very well be right about the rapture of 2012...(I've thought about that as well)good job!

I've thought it could be sooner,but I think 2012 could be the day of the rapture as well
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July 11 2009 Tribulation begins
2010 The Mark
2012 Dec 25 Resurrection/Raptute
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When are you christians going to wake up and understand the bible is a control device. It is designed to keep you looking for a higher power, outside of yourself.

This is the biggest hoax ever foisted on mankind. If revelations contained in the bible come true. Then know the ones responsible for writing it (Primarily Orion Reptillians) have plans for earth and those in secret societies are following the blueprint laid out in the bible.

Stop giving your power away to a fictional character. There is a god for you and you are connected right now. You do not need a medium such as a church or jesus. Go within, overide your DNA programming (yes, you have been programmed to give your power away) and connect to your god.

Your god is not someone elses god, it is unique to you and you alone. Get away from that bullshit church, detoxify yourself and connect for the biggest revelation of your life.

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wow I can't believe I never noticed this before

the 5th seal = the martyrs under the altar in heaven crying how long

these could well be the resurrected dead who go first

at 6th seal -- global cataclysm could well coincide with rapture

144,000 of tribes of Israel sealed thereafter joined with Christ before bowls

Rev 14 shows harvest -- 1st angel reaps trib saints with sickle -- 2nd angel reaps unbelievers and throws them into winepress grapes of wrath

John SAW this -- Jesus could have been speaking figuratively in His parable

no timeline is given for the seals -- could be 2 raptures 6th seal and 7th trumpet

love peace and joy

rb

ps dec 21 2012 I get the feeling has nothing to do with anything but who knows?

problem with putting things on future dates -- they could happen SOONER!
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The sooner you lot of nasty hypocrites and war mongers fuck off the better. You should know that you have to kill yourself to be raptured. That's the part they didn't tell you in church. Can't be raptured with a physical body. You have to release your soul. I'll volunteer to mix the kool aid to help you on your way.
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Well, the Bible doesn’t really say that you MUST be dead to be raptured, so the Christians win on this argument.

“For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord” (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17).

I am a Bible basher, but I know this is what the Bible says. Of course, the Bible also says “Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption” (1 Corinthians 15:50). However, this verse contradicts not only 1 Thessalonians, but also those portions of the scripture which speak of Enoch and Elijah, two men who went to heaven while still alive.

Speaking of Enoch:

According to the Old Testament: “And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters: And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him” (Genesis 5:22-24). The New Testament account goes further: “By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God” (Hebrews 11:5).

Speaking of Elijah:

The Bible says: “And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces” (2 Kings 2:11-12).

Oh hell, I’ll let the rest of you guys figure this thing out. I suppose it all depends on which part of the Bible you believe, and how you interpret the scriputes.
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There is no outer rapture, it will be an inner change.
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Thank you for this: short, sweet, and to the point. A basic, unalterable TRUTH packed into a couple words.

No heavy tome needed. The Kingdom of Heaven is INSIDE. Therein lies all the knowledge that anybody could need or hope for.
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i've been wondering if the steady decline of today's economic conditions will result in an environment of no job, no food, no shelter, etc..and so therefore will be an opportunity to rollout the mark as the "answer" to all...hopefully i am in heaven before then with our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

otherwise, point me to the guillotine line!! : )
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Please jebus, take your clowns out now!
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boring

i really hope you all disappear.

then the rest of us can get along with making sense of reality without sacrificial tooth fairies.
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If all the Christians disappear in an instant, it would mean they were right, there is a God, and your "reality" doesn't mean shit.
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boring

i really hope you all disappear.

then the rest of us can get along with making sense of reality without sacrificial tooth fairies.



If all the Christians disappear in an instant, it would mean they were right, there is a God, and your "reality" doesn't mean shit.
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if..........
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So many opinions insisting to be the absolute truth instead of what they are....just plain opinions.

How bold (being kind here) for any human to insist they know the mind and timing of Almighty God.

Think that is wise?
For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust. Psa 103:14

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And when it doesn't happen this year will you change your views on Christianity?
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The brain washing has taken well with this one.
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boring

i really hope you all disappear.

then the rest of us can get along with making sense of reality without sacrificial tooth fairies.



If all the Christians disappear in an instant, it would mean they were right, there is a God, and your "reality" doesn't mean shit.


if..........
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Here, I'll make it easier to read, since your can't understand it in context.

If (as you hope) all the Christians disappear in an instant, it would mean they were right, there is a God, and your "reality" doesn't mean shit.
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boring

i really hope you all disappear.

then the rest of us can get along with making sense of reality without sacrificial tooth fairies.



If all the Christians disappear in an instant, it would mean they were right, there is a God, and your "reality" doesn't mean shit.


if..........



Here, I'll make it easier to read, since your can't understand it in context.

If (as you hope) all the Christians disappear in an instant, it would mean they were right, there is a God, and your "reality" doesn't mean shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 622874



If (as you hope) all the Christians disappear in an instant, it would mean they were right, there is a Tinkerbelle, and your "reality" doesn't mean shit.





GLP