Remote Viewing and the Genius of Edgar Allen Poe

What am I wearing?

Parts of Poe´s various works have a way of sticking with you forever. Interesting article. Going back metaphysically to understand now -- now we are getting somewhere.

Aaaah! One of my favs. Especially during my teen years. Interesting article.

I saw Edgar Alln Poe´s dried up hand on TV today. It was for sale!

MESMERIC REVELATION.
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BY EDGAR A. POE.
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WHATEVER doubt may still envelop the rationale of mesmerism, its startling facts are now almost universally admitted. Of these latter, those who doubt, are your mere doubters by profession — an unprofitable and disreputable tribe. There can be no more absolute waste of time than the attempt to prove, at the present day, that man, by mere exercise of will, can so impress his fellow, as to cast him into an abnormal condition, whose phenomena resemble very closely those of death, or at least resemble them more nearly than they do the phenomena of any other normal condition within our cognizance ; that, while in this state, the person so impressed employs only with effort, and then feebly, the external organs of sense, yet perceives, with keenly refined perception, and through channels supposed unknown, matters beyond the scope of the physical organs ; that, moreover, his intellectual faculties are wonderfully exalted and invigorated ; that his sympathies with the person so impressing him are profound ; and, finally, that his susceptibility to the impression increases with its frequency, while, in the same proportion, the peculiar phenomena elicited are more extended and more pronounced.
I say that these — which are the laws of mesmerism in its general features — it would be supererogation to demonstrate ; nor shall I inflict upon my readers so needless a demonstration ; to-day. My purpose at present is a very different one indeed. I am impelled, even in the teeth of a world of prejudice, to detail without comment the very remarkable substance of a colloquy, occurring not many days ago between a sleep-waker and myself.

I had been long in the habit of mesmerizing the person in question, (Mr. Vankirk,) and the usual acute susceptibility and exaltation of the mesmeric perception had supervened. For many months he had been laboring under confirmed phthisis, the more distressing effects of which had been relieved by my manipulations ; and on the night of Wednesday, the fifteenth instant, I was summoned to his bedside.

The invalid was suffering with acute pain in the region of the heart, and breathed with great difficulty, having all the ordinary symptoms of asthma. In spasms such as these he had usually found relief from the application of mustard to the nervous centres, but to-night this had been attempted in vain. [column 2:]

As I entered his room he greeted me with a cheerful smile, and although evidently in much bodily pain, appeared to be, mentally, quite at ease.

"I sent for you to-night," he said, "not so much to administer to my bodily ailment, as to satisfy me concerning certain psychal impressions which, of late, have occasioned me much anxiety and surprise. I need not tell you how sceptical I have hitherto been on the topic of the soul´s immortality. I cannot deny that there has always existed, as if in that very soul which I have been denying, a vague half-sentiment of its own existence. But this half-sentiment at no time amounted to conviction. With it my reason had nothing to do. All attempts at logical inquiry resulted, indeed, in leaving me more sceptical than before. I had been advised to study Cousin. I studied him in his own works as well as in those of his European and American echoes. The ´Charles Elwood´ of Mr. Brownson, for example, was placed in my hands. I read it with profound attention. Throughout I found it logical, but the portions which were not merely logical were unhappily the initial arguments of the disbelieving hero of the book. In his summing up it seemed evident to me that the reasoner had not even succeeded in convincing himself. His end had plainly forgotten his beginning, like the government of Trinculo. In short, I was not long in perceiving that if man is to be intellectually convinced of his own immortality, he will never be so convinced by the mere abstractions which have been so long the fashion of the moralists of England, of France, and of Germany. Abstractions may amuse and exercise, but take no hold upon the mind. Here upon earth, at least, philosophy, I am persuaded, will always in vain call upon us to look upon qualities as things. The will may assent — the soul — the intellect, never.

I repeat, then, that I only half felt, and never intellectually believed. But latterly there has been a certain deepening of the feeling, until it has come so nearly to resemble the acquiescence of reason, that I find it difficult to distinguish between the two. I am enabled, too, plainly to trace this effect to the mesmeric influence. I cannot better explain my meaning than by the hypothesis that the mesmeric exaltation enables me to perceive a train of convincing ratiocination — a train which, in my abnormal existence, convinces, but which, [page 68:] in full accordance with the mesmeric phenomena, does not extend, except through its effect, into my normal condition. In sleep-waking, the reasoning and its conclusion — the cause and its effect — are present together. In my natural state, the cause vanishing, the effect only, and perhaps only partially, remains.

These considerations have led me to think that some good results might ensue from a series of well-directed questions propounded to me while mesmerized. You have often observed the profound self-cognizance evinced by the sleep-waker — the extensive knowledge he displays upon all points relating to the mesmeric condition itself ; and from this self-cognizance may be deduced hints for the proper conduct of a catechism."

I consented of course to make this experiment. A few passes threw Mr. Vankirk into the mesmeric sleep. His breathing became immediately more easy, and he seemed to suffer no physical uneasiness. The following conversation then ensued: — V. in the dialogue representing Mr. Vankirk, and P. myself.

P. Are you asleep ?

V. Yes — no I would rather sleep more soundly.

P. [After a few more pauses.] Do you sleep now ?

V. Yes.

P. Do you still feel the pain in your heart ?

V. No.

P. How do you think your present illness will result ?

V. [After [[a]] long hesitation and speaking as if with effort.] I must die.

P. Does the idea of death afflict you ?

V. [Very quickly.] No — no !

P. Are you pleased with the prospect ?

V. If I were awake I should like to die, but now it is no matter. The mesmeric condition is so near death as to content me.

P. I wish you would explain yourself, Mr. Vankirk.

V. I am willing to do so, but it requires more effort than I feel able to make. You do not question me properly.

P. What then shall I ask ?

V. You must begin at the beginning.

P. The beginning ! but where is the beginning. [[?]]

V. You know that the beginning is GOD. [This was said in a low, fluctuating tone, and with every sign of the most profound veneration.]

P. What then is God ?

V. [Hesitating for many minutes.] I cannot tell.

P. Is not God spirit ?

V. While I was awake I knew what you meant by "spirit," but now it seems only a word — such for instance as truth, beauty — a quality, I mean.

P. Is not God immaterial ?

V. There is no immateriality — it is a mere [column 2:] word. That which is not matter, is not at all — unless qualities are things.

P. Is God, then, material ?

V. No. [This reply startled me very much.]

P. What then is he ?

V. [After a long pause, and mutteringly.] I see — but it is a thing difficult to tell. [Another long pause.] He is not spirit, for he exists. Nor is he matter, as you understand it. But there are gradations of matter of which man knows nothing ; the grosser impelling the finer, the finer pervading the grosser. The atmosphere, for example, impels or modifies the electric principle, while the electric principle permeates the atmosphere. These gradations of matter increase in rarity or fineness, until we arrive at a matter unparticled — without particles — indivisible — one and here the law of impulsion and permeation is modified. The ultimate, or unparticled matter, not only permeates all things but impels all things — and thus is all things within itself. This matter is God. What men vaguely attempt to embody in the word "thought," is this matter in motion.

P. The metaphysicians maintain that all action is reducible to motion and thinking, and that the latter is the origin of the former.

V. Yes ; and I now see the confusion of idea. Motion is the action of mind — not of thinking. The unparticled matter, or God, in quiescence, is (as nearly as we can conceive it) what men call mind. And the power of self-movement (equivalent in effect to human volition) is, in the unparticled matter, the result of its unity and omniprevalence ; how I know not, and now clearly see that I shall never know. But the unparticled matter, set in motion by a law, or quality, existing within itself, is thinking.

P. Can you give me no more precise idea of what you term the unparticled matter ?

V. The matters of which man is cognizant, escape the senses in gradation. We have, for example, a metal, a piece of wood, a drop of water, the atmosphere, a gas, caloric, light, electricity, the luminiferous ether. Now we call all these things matter, and embrace all matter in one general definition ; but in spite of this, there can be no two ideas more essentially distinct than that which we attach to a metal, and that which we attach to the luminiferous ether. When we reach the latter, we feel an almost irresistible inclination to class it with spirit, or with nihility. The only consideration which restrains us is our conception of its atomic constitution ; and here, even, we have to seek aid from our notion of an atom, possessing in infinite minuteness, solidity, palpability, weight. Destroy the idea of the atomic constitution and we should no longer be able to regard the ether as an entity, or at least as matter. For want of a better word we might term it spirit. Take, [page 69:] now, a step beyond the luminiferous ether — conceive a matter as much more rare than the ether, as this ether is more rare than the metal, and we arrive at once (in spite of all the school dogmas) at a unique mass — at unparticled matter. For although we may admit infinite littleness in the atoms themselves, the infinitude of littleness in the spaces between them is an absurdity. There will be a point — there will be a degree of rarity, at which, if the atoms are sufficiently numerous, the interspaces must vanish, and the mass absolutely coalesce. But the consideration of the atomic construction being now taken away, the nature of the mass inevitably glides into what we conceive of spirit. It is clear, however, that it is as fully matter as before. The truth is, it is impossible to conceive spirit, since it is impossible to imagine what is not. When we flatter ourselves that we have formed its conception, we have merely deceived our understanding by the consideration of infinitely rarified matter.

P. But in all this, is there nothing of irreverence ? [I was forced to repeat this question before the sleep-waker fully comprehended my meaning.]

V. Can you say why matter should be less reverenced than mind ? But you forget that the matter of which I speak is, in all respects, the very "mind" or "spirit" of the schools, so far as regards its high capacities, and is, moreover, the "matter" of these schools at the same time. God, with all the powers attributed to spirit, is but the perfection of matter.

P. You assert, then, that the unparticled matter, in motion, is thought ?

V. In general, this motion is the universal thought of the universal mind. This thought creates. All created things are but the thoughts of God.

P. You say, "in general."

V. Yes. The universal mind is God. For new individualities, matter is necessary.

P. But you now speak of "mind" and "matter" as do the metaphysicians.

V. Yes — to avoid confusion. When I say "mind," I mean the unparticled or ultimate matter ; by "matter," I intend all else.

P. You were saying that "for new individualities matter is necessary."

V. Yes ; for mind, existing unincorporate, is merely God. To create individual, thinking beings, it was necessary to incarnate portions of the divine mind. Thus man is individualized. Divested of corporate investiture, he were God. Now, the particular motion of the incarnated portions of the unparticled matter is the thought of man ; as the motion of the whole is that of God.

P. You say that divested of the body man will be God ?

V. [After much hesitation.] I could not have said this ; it is an absurdity. [column 2:]

P. [Referring to my notes.] You did say that "divested of corporate investiture man were God."

V. And this is true. Man thus divested would be God — would be unindividualized. But he can never be thus divested — at least never will be — else we must imagine an action of God returning upon itself — a purposeless and futile action. Man is a creature. Creatures are thoughts of God. It is the nature of thought to be irrevocable.

P. I do not comprehend. You say that man will never put off the body ?

V. I say that he will never be bodiless.

P. Explain.

V. There are two bodies — the rudimental and the complete ; corresponding with the two conditions of the worm and the butterfly. What we call "death," is but the painful metamorphosis. Our present incarnation is progressive, preparatory, temporary. Our future is perfected, ultimate, immortal. The ultimate life is the full design.

P. But of the worm´s metamorphosis we are palpably cognizant.

V. We, certainly — but not the worm. The matter of which our rudimental body is composed, is within the ken of the organs of that body ; or, more distinctly, our rudimental organs are adapted to the matter of which is formed the rudimental body ; but not to that of which the ultimate is composed. The ultimate body thus escapes our rudimental senses, and we perceive only the shell which falls, in decaying, from the inner form ; not that inner form itself ; but this inner form, as well as the shell, is appreciable by those who have already acquired the ultimate life.

P. You have often said that the mesmeric state very nearly resembles death. How is this ?

V. When I say that it resembles death, I mean that it resembles the ultimate life for when I am entranced the senses of my rudimental life are in abeyance, and I perceive external things directly, without organs, through a medium which I shall employ in the ultimate, unorganized life.

P. Unorganized ?

V. Yes ; organs are contrivances by which the individual is brought into sensible relation with particular classes and forms of matter, to the exclusion of other classes and forms. The organs of man are adapted to his rudimental condition, and to that only ; his ultimate condition, being unorganized, is of unlimited comprehension in all points but one — the nature of the volition, or motion of God — that is to say, the motion of the unparticled matter. You will have a distinct idea of the ultimate body by conceiving it to be entire brain. This it is not ; but a conception of this nature will bring you near a comprehension of what it is. A luminous body imparts vibration to the luminiferous ether. The vibrations generate similar ones within the retina, which again communicate similar ones to the optic nerve. The [page 70:] nerve conveys similar ones to the brain ; the brain, also, similar ones to the unparticled matter which permeates it. The motion of this latter is thought, of which perception is the first undulation. This is the mode by which the mind of the rudimental life communicates with the external world ; and this external world is limited, through the idiosyncrasy of the organs. But in the ultimate, unorganized life, the external world reaches the whole body, (which is of a substance having affinity to brain, as I have said,) with no other intervention than that of an infinitely rarer ether than even the luminiferous ; and to this ether — in unison with it — the whole body vibrates, setting in motion the unparticled matter which permeates it. It is to the absence of idiosyncratic organs, therefore, that we must attribute the nearly unlimited perception of the ultimate life. To rudimental beings, organs are the cages necessary to confine them until fledged.

P. You speak of rudimental "beings." Are there other rudimental thinking beings than man ?

V. The multitudinous conglomeration of rare [column 2:] matter into nebulæ, planets, suns, and other bodies which are neither nebulæ, suns, nor planets, is for the sole purpose of supplying pabulum for the idiosyncrasy of the organs of an infinity of rudimental beings. But for the necessity of the rudimental, prior to the ultimate life, there would have been no bodies such as these. Each of these is tenanted by a distinct variety of organic, rudimental, thinking creatures. In all, the organs vary with the features of the place tenanted. At death, or metamorphosis, these creatures, enjoying the ultimate life, and cognizant of all secrets but the one, pervade at pleasure the weird dominions of the infinite.

As the sleep-waker pronounced these latter words, in a feeble tone, I observed upon his countenance a singular expression, which somewhat alarmed me, and induced me to awake him at once. No sooner had I done this, than, with a bright smile irradiating all his features, he fell back upon his pillow and expired. I noticed that in less than a minute afterward his corpse had all the stern rigidity of stone.

I dont doubt the validty of remote viewing.
And that it has been around for AGES.
If you read into old myths and legends of wizards and magicians, you will discover that these ablites were used thousounds of years ago, and considerd magic. What makes this ablity possible are protcols, protocals that structure and focus your psychic sense and mind, in order for you to use it. And it also takes dedication and practice and an understanding of the magic.

Good evening, Trav!

nevermore, do you have a link to that article?

Traveller I saw you watching me in the shower. Did you see anything you liked?

How do you know that it wasn´t Me-911?

heh.


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With all those that died on 12/26 - why was this not RV´d? If RVing is real why no forsight into this calamity?

good question..maybe some RVer´s could explain.

Poe was a troubled soul.

What does Traveller quote Poe all the time?

yup.

Poe was a great writer

yeah, if I noticed..etc...

No peep beforehand says,
With all those that died on 12/26 - why was this not RV´d? If RVing is real why no forsight into this calamity?


it was but noone payed close enough attention.

Thanks everyone. I have enjoyed this thread immensely.

laudnum had a bit to do with it as well, as did sound

That idiot belonged in an asylum.

Poe viewed his poo.

Interview with A. Edward Moch on the subject of Remote Viewing

Part Two

Patriotlad: In our first discussion we touched on several themes concerning what was once known as “Mesmeric Revelation” or Remote Viewing. We noted that one of the key figures in American history in this regard was Edgar Allan Poe, the poet and mystery writer. You told us that Poe was much more than that, and most likely was gifted with code breaking abilities or cipher-solving.

We also noted that in that era, there were other prominent Americans with great artistic talents who seemed gifted in other ways. When Poe was living in the Bronx, he sometimes met with Herman Melville at the Fordham Hotel, at Webster Avenue and Fordham Road. We know they were well-acquainted. Melville is famous for his epic novel of the sea, Moby Dick, but less well-remembered for Bartleby, and for touching on other social issues of the day. There was also James Fenimore Cooper, novelist and political theorist, and Samuel F.B. Morse. He was the artist and portrait painter who developed the electrical telegraph and Morse code.

You said this consideration would bring us around to the concept of Reverse Engineering, which by other names has apparently been around for a very long time. You mentioned Percy Bysshe Shelley in this regard, the poet and writer who was married Mary Wollstonecraft, the author of the classic “Frankenstein.”

A. Edward Moch -- One of his last poems was called “Triumph of Life”, Percy Shelley vividly described, in a Remote Viewing experience, a future time and describing the technology of its day, and trying to understand the fundamentals of what he experienced. It seems like he was describing the 20th Century.

Q. So, Shelley is where we jump off into the consideration of Reverse Engineering ?

A. Yes. This may be explained better after Shelley’s death, with the novel Frankenstein. The descriptions of not only reanimation, but also medical and surgical triage methods to keep a body alive through various traditional and non-traditional ways. In the case of the use of electricity, to reanimate the body, we are reminded of the modern apparatus for shocking the heart back to a normal sinus rhythm.

Q. Do you sense that Mary Shelley got some of her inspiration from Percy Shelley’s “Mesmeric Revelations” ??

A. It is possible that both of them may have shared some aspects of what we now call Remote Viewing.

Q. Of course, every student of American history has to be fascinated with the mind and abilities of Benjamin Franklin – who pioneered experiments in electricity – and with his incredible command of Natural Philosophy, or science. Does Franklin’s life show a constant flow of hidden or occult information from old Europe to the New World ?

A. Yes. Franklin was well-aware of the works and explorations of Franz Mesmer, and may have used “mesmeric-type” techniques in the development of what we call reverse engineering.

Q. We know that Samuel F.B. Morse traveled in Europe in the years 1829-1831, and wrote extensively on what he felt was the corrupting influence of Austrian imperial ambition on the Holy Roman See. Many of his essays were published in the old New York Observer under a pseudonym, Brutus. It was not long after this that he began working on the principles of electric current, which led to development of the telegraph as a communications system.

A. Given that Poe was definitely an expert on codes and ciphers, it is likely that Samuel F.B. Morse – through his connections to the New York Observer – knew of Poe and Frances Sargent Osgood, a.k.a. Frances Locke. This was an era of extremes in creativity and inventiveness. Samuel F.B. Morse was a nephew to Henry Livingston of New York …. The supposed original author of ”A Visit From St. Nicholas” or The Night Before Christmas [ while this is a subject of some controversy, Mr. Moch feels strongly that the true author was Livingston ].

Q. It certainly seems likely that this famous poem, whoever the true author may be, has something in the way of an encrypted message in it. That’s my view.

A. There are some experts who think that there is such a thing in it. Henry Livingston was related to Robert Livingston who was a major investor and supporter of Robert Fulton and his steamboat inventions. Fulton tried to get Napoleon Bonaparte to fund his developments, but that failed.

Q. Didn’t the invention of the electrical telegraph make the use of electricity much more of a concern to Americans in the 1840s ?

A. Yes. It was slow getting started, but once it got going, it took off rapidly. Morse code was crucial to the use of the telegraph and it became a standardized code. It is very possible that other codes were produced at this time for what we now call “intelligence uses”. Some may still be in use, to this day.

Q. So, demonstration of the practical use of electricity brought forth many other inventions in short order ?

A. Yes. The later inventions of Charles Hall and Thomas Edison are excellent examples. There’s the invention of using electricity to separate Bauxite ore into aluminum. Some of this was done at Oberlin College in Ohio. And Edison was originally from Ohio. Even though he was a founder of Alcoa Aluminum, he had no children and some of his fortune was passed on to his nephew, George Hall.

Q. And why is George Hall important ?

A. I had the honor of meeting George Hall, shortly before his death, at which time he told me he participated in one of the early ESP or parapsychological experiments at Stanford University. According to Mr. Hall, he said that a number of the ESP experiemtns that they did were observed by none other than Herbert Hoover ?? of Stanford. This hints at the possibility that Hoover participated in some of the experiments, if only for his personal amusement and curiousity.

Q. Therefore, there is a longer learning curve in ESP research in this country, than is noted in our popular history ?

A. Yes …

Q. What does this mean ?

A. It means that the study of psychical research and parapsychology has far more threads in modern psychology and mental science, than we know in a public fashion.

Q. Going back to Edison, does it seem that the Wizard of Menlo Park may have had extraordinary “mesmeric” abilities ?
A/. Definitely. At his laboratories in New Jersey Mr. Edison had a daybed in his lab. He would take short naps there. In between his study of certain inventive equations, right after these naps, he often came up with a solution to whatever problem he was working on. Many improvements to his inventions are attributed to these short interludes. What few people know is that Thomas Edison was fascinated by metaphysics !! And perhaps a practioner of metaphysical thinking.

Q. The list of inventions and improvements to the inventions of others, pioneered by Edison and his laboratory teams, is extraordinary. He truly shaped the mass media environment of the 20th Century, didn’t he ??

A. Very much so. He was extremely involved in the early development of the motion picture camera, and the successful exhibition of moving pictures with his projection equipment. He did not do all the work, but Edison made the efforts of others both workable and economical.

Q. Without Edison, there would also be no sound-on-film in synchronization ?

A. That’s partially correct. After the building of his first movie studio, The Black Maria, at his New Jersey location, Edison built a second studio. It was located at what we call the Bedford Park, North Fordham section of the Bronx. This was directly across from Fordham University as we know now it.

Q. What does that mean ?

A. His experiments in the improvement of film quality and on the phonograph, led him to experiment in the area of sound on film techniques. There were others doing the same work in that area. Another gentleman who would come up with an early sound on film technique was a man named Augustus Coppola, an Italian immigrant, and the principal in the Coppola clan. He invented the Vitaphone system, which was adopted by First National Pictures and thus by the Warner Brothers. This is what gave us “The Jazz Singer” and some of the first animated cartoons with sound on film.

Edison later sold his second movie studio to D.W. Griffith. It was also used for early cartoon animation, most notably, the cartoon work of Raoul Barre’. This was connected with The Art Students League. Many of these early cartoon animators would join Paul Terry at the Terrytoon Studios and a young draftsman-turned-illustrator –

Q. Walt Disney ?

A. Yes, Disney ….

Q. So it is a very small world in this area of cartoon magic, isn’t it ?

A. A small world it is, very much so. I don’t have any proof that Edison and Father Duffy ever met, but they were in the same area at the same time … and both shared a deep curiosity about metaphysics. So, it is kind of strange and unique that where there was once the Fordham Hotel – where Edgar Allan Poe spent so much time – there was the later development of Raoul Barre’ Studio, at that same junction of Fordham and Webster.

Q. Could it be that there is some kind of geodetic or geographical nexus of Earth energies, there, which might be congenial to the study of metaphysics and everything that surrounded it in the early history of our United States ?

It simply cannot be pure coincidence ??

A. I believe that there was, and may still be, such a nexus. It is clear that this area attracted highly creative, highly inventive, and highly industrious personalities.

Q. Now, let’s touch on Coppola for a moment.

A. Mr. Coppola was a musician who helped to produce player piano rolls, and the Mott Haven section of the Bronx – at the turn of the century – was a center point in the building of organs, pianos and player pianos. This is the first example of the automation of music. Large music boxes using a metal or paper disc or roll were also manufactured there, and they were once very popular and common. Coppola worked for what was then known as the Paramount Music Roll Company.

Q. The forerunner of Paramount Studios ?

A. Yes it was. His son, Carmine, would later become a musician and conductor of symphony orchestras. This Coppola worked with Arturo Toscanini, the great Italian composer and conductor. He was later the conductor of the NBC Symphony Orchestra. From that line, comes the present-day Coppola family and their involvement in the modern film business.

Q. So, now we have a thread stretching from Edgar Allan Poe and his residence in the Bronx, through Edison and D.W. Griffith to the Coppolas, and therefore to Nicholas K. Coppola, otherwise known as Nicola Cage.

A. And he’s the star of the recently released cinematic success, “National Treasure,” among other high quality moving pictures ? So the Coppola family has its roots in the same inventive soil as Raoul Barre’ and The Art Students League and Disney, beginning on the music side of film-making and entertainment.

Q. It seems to me, that Nicolas Cage has found ways to place himself in some of the most highly contextual motion pictures of our time. Several of the movies he has carried, as the leading man or principal actor, are clearly laden with secondary levels of meaning. All of his major movies, for many years now, seem to keep their “freshness,” or relevance. None of them are what might be called “B movies” or throw-aways … would you agree ?

A. Yes, to a point. Cage, as a film star, now can command a large salary, but more importantly, he can pick his vehicles with a great deal of assurance. Futhermore, he was married for a time, to Patricia Arquette. She’s the sister of Rosanna Arquette and the star of the new television series – “Medium.” You cannot get deeper into psychical research than this TV series has done. Arquette plays A. Dubois, a law student who is gifted with ‘second sight,’ or the ability to see the spirits of the dead and the gift or curse of being able to communicate with the dead. This was the stuff of horror fiction for a long time, and now it is mainstreamed. That, also, cannot be a coincidence.

Q. The intersection of psychic awareness and ability and the intelligence-gathering aspects of law enforcement and investigation is not something new, even if it is something new to mainstream entertainment, correct ?

A. Correct !! It simply isn’t the stuff of television fiction, it is the mainspring of certain kinds of modern investigation. For example, we all remember the strange disappearance of one Chandra Levy of Modesto and the Summer Without Chandra. That was 2001. Her whereabouts were unknown. Police officials in the District of Columbia used many resources, including cadet trainees, professional search teams, and the best sniffing dogs they could find, when they were searching for her possible remains. Yet more than a year elapsed between her disappearance, and the discovery of her bones and clothing in Rock Creek Park.

Q. Did they use Remote Viewing and/or other psychical methods of investigation to discover the whereabouts of her body ?

A. Yes. It was called “The Combined Team” and it brought together various people in the psychical fields, from Dowsers to Remote Viewers, and they provided the important clues to eventual discovery of her remains. This in turn, led investigators to the conclusion that Chandra Levy had, indeed, been murdered. The curious thing is, they found her where they had supposedly looked before, more than once. So … where was she when they didn’t find her the first time ? Nobody knows the answer to that yet, or it may be highly classified. It is also intriguing to note that the case of the D.C. snipers, including Lee Boyd Malvo and his father John Muhammad, covered many shootings in this same area.

THE SUMMER WITHOUT CHANDRA

Q. This, then, brings us full circle to all of the questions about what Chandra Levy was doing when she was a paid intern at the Bureau of Prisons, and involved in the arrangements which surrounded the supposed execution of Timothy James McVeigh. Then, the question obtains – what was the role, if any, of Remote Viewers in looking at the actual events of April 19th in Oklahoma City ??

A. There are some aspects of that which I cannot discuss at this time.

Q. As you know I have invested a lot of time and energy into looking at the murder of Suzanne Jovin, a Yale student found mortally wounded on a street corner in New Haven on December 4th – Saint Barbara’s Day – in 1998. I was originally of the opinion that her death was “a message killing” conducted by neo-Nazi elements on behalf of the Al Qaeda. She had just finished a senior thesis in political science on Osama bin Laden. I am wondering now, if she wasn’t the victim of a Remote Viewing team financed by Al Qaeda … There is simply no other explanation for how this otherwise harmless young woman could be ‘discovered’ in her interests.

A. I am disturbed at the possibility that a rogue element interested in the deployment of Remote Viewing for such purposes could exist. After all, Osama bin Laden had to know that Remote Viewing was used in the First Gulf War, and surely he knew that Project Stargate was declassified in 1995-96. And that a former military Remote Viewere began to discuss and present this to the public shortly thereafter.

Q. It now seems that Jovin stumbled on to the issue of Al Qaeda wanting to obtain crop duster aircraft, for some paramilitary purposes, as this was an element in her thesis. It is for certain, that the authorities who should be concerned with her murder, have not and do not want the full disclosure of the four thousand pages of interviews, testimony, and research that has been assembled in her case. Freedom of Information requests by the media in Connecticut and by friends of the falsely-accused James Van De Velde, have sought this information and been denied on bureaucratic technicalities. It is mostly troubling, isn’t it ?

A. It would seem to be so. Unfortunately I’m not really privy to such information nor can I verify it, or discount it. Now ...

In the months before September 11th, members of the Al Qaeda were practicing at various aircraft training schools, in Florida, Oklahoma, and Arizona. This is known and factual.

It was later verified that members of the Al Qaeda were visiting Las Vegas, Nevada, as far back as 1995 and 1997. They were in Las Vegas just months before September 11th, during which time a Remote Viewing convention and conference was being held. There is no evidence or indication that any members of the Al Qaeda visited or inquired about Remote Viewing, or the convention, but they were there in the same city. This is yet another aspect of the 9/11 mystery that bears investigation.

And the timing of the FBI offices in Las Vegas being broken into … the Hill case … and the stealing of files at these offices during the same time period, also raises questions which haven’t been answered.

Interview with A. Edward Moch on the subject of Remote Viewing

Part Two

Patriotlad: In our first discussion we touched on several themes concerning what was once known as “Mesmeric Revelation” or Remote Viewing. We noted that one of the key figures in American history in this regard was Edgar Allan Poe, the poet and mystery writer. You told us that Poe was much more than that, and most likely was gifted with code breaking abilities or cipher-solving.

We also noted that in that era, there were other prominent Americans with great artistic talents who seemed gifted in other ways. When Poe was living in the Bronx, he sometimes met with Herman Melville at the Fordham Hotel, at Webster Avenue and Fordham Road. We know they were well-acquainted. Melville is famous for his epic novel of the sea, Moby Dick, but less well-remembered for Bartleby, and for touching on other social issues of the day. There was also James Fenimore Cooper, novelist and political theorist, and Samuel F.B. Morse. He was the artist and portrait painter who developed the electrical telegraph and Morse code.

You said this consideration would bring us around to the concept of Reverse Engineering, which by other names has apparently been around for a very long time. You mentioned Percy Bysshe Shelley in this regard, the poet and writer who was married Mary Wollstonecraft, the author of the classic “Frankenstein.”

A. Edward Moch -- One of his last poems was called “Triumph of Life”, Percy Shelley vividly described, in a Remote Viewing experience, a future time and describing the technology of its day, and trying to understand the fundamentals of what he experienced. It seems like he was describing the 20th Century.

Q. So, Shelley is where we jump off into the consideration of Reverse Engineering ?

A. Yes. This may be explained better after Shelley’s death, with the novel Frankenstein. The descriptions of not only reanimation, but also medical and surgical triage methods to keep a body alive through various traditional and non-traditional ways. In the case of the use of electricity, to reanimate the body, we are reminded of the modern apparatus for shocking the heart back to a normal sinus rhythm.

Q. Do you sense that Mary Shelley got some of her inspiration from Percy Shelley’s “Mesmeric Revelations” ??

A. It is possible that both of them may have shared some aspects of what we now call Remote Viewing.

Q. Of course, every student of American history has to be fascinated with the mind and abilities of Benjamin Franklin – who pioneered experiments in electricity – and with his incredible command of Natural Philosophy, or science. Does Franklin’s life show a constant flow of hidden or occult information from old Europe to the New World ?

A. Yes. Franklin was well-aware of the works and explorations of Franz Mesmer, and may have used “mesmeric-type” techniques in the development of what we call reverse engineering.

Q. We know that Samuel F.B. Morse traveled in Europe in the years 1829-1831, and wrote extensively on what he felt was the corrupting influence of Austrian imperial ambition on the Holy Roman See. Many of his essays were published in the old New York Observer under a pseudonym, Brutus. It was not long after this that he began working on the principles of electric current, which led to development of the telegraph as a communications system.

A. Given that Poe was definitely an expert on codes and ciphers, it is likely that Samuel F.B. Morse – through his connections to the New York Observer – knew of Poe and Frances Sargent Osgood, a.k.a. Frances Locke. This was an era of extremes in creativity and inventiveness. Samuel F.B. Morse was a nephew to Henry Livingston of New York …. The supposed original author of ”A Visit From St. Nicholas” or The Night Before Christmas [ while this is a subject of some controversy, Mr. Moch feels strongly that the true author was Livingston ].

Q. It certainly seems likely that this famous poem, whoever the true author may be, has something in the way of an encrypted message in it. That’s my view.

A. There are some experts who think that there is such a thing in it. Henry Livingston was related to Robert Livingston who was a major investor and supporter of Robert Fulton and his steamboat inventions. Fulton tried to get Napoleon Bonaparte to fund his developments, but that failed.

Q. Didn’t the invention of the electrical telegraph make the use of electricity much more of a concern to Americans in the 1840s ?

A. Yes. It was slow getting started, but once it got going, it took off rapidly. Morse code was crucial to the use of the telegraph and it became a standardized code. It is very possible that other codes were produced at this time for what we now call “intelligence uses”. Some may still be in use, to this day.

Q. So, demonstration of the practical use of electricity brought forth many other inventions in short order ?

A. Yes. The later inventions of Charles Hall and Thomas Edison are excellent examples. There’s the invention of using electricity to separate Bauxite ore into aluminum. Some of this was done at Oberlin College in Ohio. And Edison was originally from Ohio. Even though he was a founder of Alcoa Aluminum, he had no children and some of his fortune was passed on to his nephew, George Hall.

Q. And why is George Hall important ?

A. I had the honor of meeting George Hall, shortly before his death, at which time he told me he participated in one of the early ESP or parapsychological experiments at Stanford University. According to Mr. Hall, he said that a number of the ESP experiemtns that they did were observed by none other than Herbert Hoover ?? of Stanford. This hints at the possibility that Hoover participated in some of the experiments, if only for his personal amusement and curiousity.

Q. Therefore, there is a longer learning curve in ESP research in this country, than is noted in our popular history ?

A. Yes …

Q. What does this mean ?

A. It means that the study of psychical research and parapsychology has far more threads in modern psychology and mental science, than we know in a public fashion.

Q. Going back to Edison, does it seem that the Wizard of Menlo Park may have had extraordinary “mesmeric” abilities ?
A/. Definitely. At his laboratories in New Jersey Mr. Edison had a daybed in his lab. He would take short naps there. In between his study of certain inventive equations, right after these naps, he often came up with a solution to whatever problem he was working on. Many improvements to his inventions are attributed to these short interludes. What few people know is that Thomas Edison was fascinated by metaphysics !! And perhaps a practioner of metaphysical thinking.

Q. The list of inventions and improvements to the inventions of others, pioneered by Edison and his laboratory teams, is extraordinary. He truly shaped the mass media environment of the 20th Century, didn’t he ??

A. Very much so. He was extremely involved in the early development of the motion picture camera, and the successful exhibition of moving pictures with his projection equipment. He did not do all the work, but Edison made the efforts of others both workable and economical.

Q. Without Edison, there would also be no sound-on-film in synchronization ?

A. That’s partially correct. After the building of his first movie studio, The Black Maria, at his New Jersey location, Edison built a second studio. It was located at what we call the Bedford Park, North Fordham section of the Bronx. This was directly across from Fordham University as we know now it.

Q. What does that mean ?

A. His experiments in the improvement of film quality and on the phonograph, led him to experiment in the area of sound on film techniques. There were others doing the same work in that area. Another gentleman who would come up with an early sound on film technique was a man named Augustus Coppola, an Italian immigrant, and the principal in the Coppola clan. He invented the Vitaphone system, which was adopted by First National Pictures and thus by the Warner Brothers. This is what gave us “The Jazz Singer” and some of the first animated cartoons with sound on film.

Edison later sold his second movie studio to D.W. Griffith. It was also used for early cartoon animation, most notably, the cartoon work of Raoul Barre’. This was connected with The Art Students League. Many of these early cartoon animators would join Paul Terry at the Terrytoon Studios and a young draftsman-turned-illustrator –

Q. Walt Disney ?

A. Yes, Disney ….

Q. So it is a very small world in this area of cartoon magic, isn’t it ?

A. A small world it is, very much so. I don’t have any proof that Edison and Father Duffy ever met, but they were in the same area at the same time … and both shared a deep curiosity about metaphysics. So, it is kind of strange and unique that where there was once the Fordham Hotel – where Edgar Allan Poe spent so much time – there was the later development of Raoul Barre’ Studio, at that same junction of Fordham and Webster.

Q. Could it be that there is some kind of geodetic or geographical nexus of Earth energies, there, which might be congenial to the study of metaphysics and everything that surrounded it in the early history of our United States ?

It simply cannot be pure coincidence ??

A. I believe that there was, and may still be, such a nexus. It is clear that this area attracted highly creative, highly inventive, and highly industrious personalities.

Q. Now, let’s touch on Coppola for a moment.

A. Mr. Coppola was a musician who helped to produce player piano rolls, and the Mott Haven section of the Bronx – at the turn of the century – was a center point in the building of organs, pianos and player pianos. This is the first example of the automation of music. Large music boxes using a metal or paper disc or roll were also manufactured there, and they were once very popular and common. Coppola worked for what was then known as the Paramount Music Roll Company.

Q. The forerunner of Paramount Studios ?

A. Yes it was. His son, Carmine, would later become a musician and conductor of symphony orchestras. This Coppola worked with Arturo Toscanini, the great Italian composer and conductor. He was later the conductor of the NBC Symphony Orchestra. From that line, comes the present-day Coppola family and their involvement in the modern film business.

Q. So, now we have a thread stretching from Edgar Allan Poe and his residence in the Bronx, through Edison and D.W. Griffith to the Coppolas, and therefore to Nicholas K. Coppola, otherwise known as Nicola Cage.

A. And he’s the star of the recently released cinematic success, “National Treasure,” among other high quality moving pictures ? So the Coppola family has its roots in the same inventive soil as Raoul Barre’ and The Art Students League and Disney, beginning on the music side of film-making and entertainment.

Q. It seems to me, that Nicolas Cage has found ways to place himself in some of the most highly contextual motion pictures of our time. Several of the movies he has carried, as the leading man or principal actor, are clearly laden with secondary levels of meaning. All of his major movies, for many years now, seem to keep their “freshness,” or relevance. None of them are what might be called “B movies” or throw-aways … would you agree ?

A. Yes, to a point. Cage, as a film star, now can command a large salary, but more importantly, he can pick his vehicles with a great deal of assurance. Futhermore, he was married for a time, to Patricia Arquette. She’s the sister of Rosanna Arquette and the star of the new television series – “Medium.” You cannot get deeper into psychical research than this TV series has done. Arquette plays A. Dubois, a law student who is gifted with ‘second sight,’ or the ability to see the spirits of the dead and the gift or curse of being able to communicate with the dead. This was the stuff of horror fiction for a long time, and now it is mainstreamed. That, also, cannot be a coincidence.

Q. The intersection of psychic awareness and ability and the intelligence-gathering aspects of law enforcement and investigation is not something new, even if it is something new to mainstream entertainment, correct ?

A. Correct !! It simply isn’t the stuff of television fiction, it is the mainspring of certain kinds of modern investigation. For example, we all remember the strange disappearance of one Chandra Levy of Modesto and the Summer Without Chandra. That was 2001. Her whereabouts were unknown. Police officials in the District of Columbia used many resources, including cadet trainees, professional search teams, and the best sniffing dogs they could find, when they were searching for her possible remains. Yet more than a year elapsed between her disappearance, and the discovery of her bones and clothing in Rock Creek Park.

Q. Did they use Remote Viewing and/or other psychical methods of investigation to discover the whereabouts of her body ?

A. Yes. It was called “The Combined Team” and it brought together various people in the psychical fields, from Dowsers to Remote Viewers, and they provided the important clues to eventual discovery of her remains. This in turn, led investigators to the conclusion that Chandra Levy had, indeed, been murdered. The curious thing is, they found her where they had supposedly looked before, more than once. So … where was she when they didn’t find her the first time ? Nobody knows the answer to that yet, or it may be highly classified. It is also intriguing to note that the case of the D.C. snipers, including Lee Boyd Malvo and his father John Muhammad, covered many shootings in this same area.

THE SUMMER WITHOUT CHANDRA

Q. This, then, brings us full circle to all of the questions about what Chandra Levy was doing when she was a paid intern at the Bureau of Prisons, and involved in the arrangements which surrounded the supposed execution of Timothy James McVeigh. Then, the question obtains – what was the role, if any, of Remote Viewers in looking at the actual events of April 19th in Oklahoma City ??

A. There are some aspects of that which I cannot discuss at this time.

Q. As you know I have invested a lot of time and energy into looking at the murder of Suzanne Jovin, a Yale student found mortally wounded on a street corner in New Haven on December 4th – Saint Barbara’s Day – in 1998. I was originally of the opinion that her death was “a message killing” conducted by neo-Nazi elements on behalf of the Al Qaeda. She had just finished a senior thesis in political science on Osama bin Laden. I am wondering now, if she wasn’t the victim of a Remote Viewing team financed by Al Qaeda … There is simply no other explanation for how this otherwise harmless young woman could be ‘discovered’ in her interests.

A. I am disturbed at the possibility that a rogue element interested in the deployment of Remote Viewing for such purposes could exist. After all, Osama bin Laden had to know that Remote Viewing was used in the First Gulf War, and surely he knew that Project Stargate was declassified in 1995-96. And that a former military Remote Viewere began to discuss and present this to the public shortly thereafter.

Q. It now seems that Jovin stumbled on to the issue of Al Qaeda wanting to obtain crop duster aircraft, for some paramilitary purposes, as this was an element in her thesis. It is for certain, that the authorities who should be concerned with her murder, have not and do not want the full disclosure of the four thousand pages of interviews, testimony, and research that has been assembled in her case. Freedom of Information requests by the media in Connecticut and by friends of the falsely-accused James Van De Velde, have sought this information and been denied on bureaucratic technicalities. It is mostly troubling, isn’t it ?

A. It would seem to be so. Unfortunately I’m not really privy to such information nor can I verify it, or discount it. Now ...

In the months before September 11th, members of the Al Qaeda were practicing at various aircraft training schools, in Florida, Oklahoma, and Arizona. This is known and factual.

It was later verified that members of the Al Qaeda were visiting Las Vegas, Nevada, as far back as 1995 and 1997. They were in Las Vegas just months before September 11th, during which time a Remote Viewing convention and conference was being held. There is no evidence or indication that any members of the Al Qaeda visited or inquired about Remote Viewing, or the convention, but they were there in the same city. This is yet another aspect of the 9/11 mystery that bears investigation.

And the timing of the FBI offices in Las Vegas being broken into … the Hill case … and the stealing of files at these offices during the same time period, also raises questions which haven’t been answered.