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10 Reasons HIV Does Not Cause AIDS

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HIV AIDS Hoax
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LEE EVANS SPEAKS OUT ABOUT THE HIV TESTS - Lee Evans, who won two Olympic Gold Medals and held three long-standing world records in track and field, discusses the myriad of problems with the HIV tests that are incorrectly diagnosing people as HIV-Positive, including the fact that the tests have never been validated, that there can be as many as 90% false positive test results, that fifty scientific studies have found seventy non-HIV conditions that will cause a positive reaction, and more.
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visna virus causes AIDS
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I guess you have never seen anyone die from HIV/AIDS
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Nikki,

it's a case of smoke and mirrors.

Take Africa first. We used to see pictures of skinny Africans since the 60's and 70's (at least) for charities asking for money. Then, in the 80's we see pictures of skinny Africans, and suddenly it's a sex plague? Did you know that only 2% of Africans that are said to have AIDS have ever had the luxury of an actual HIV test? Could it be that old diseases are getting renamed as AIDS and money flows into countries that say that have lots and lots of AIDS, and that money doesn't get to the people who need it. And even when it "does" get to the people, they're given horrible drugs, when the thing they probably need most is clean drinking water, food and basic antibiotics.

Now, let's look at gay men. I was definitely "out and about" in the early 80's. I saw what gay men were doing to their bodies. AND I was also there in college when the first cases of GRID were discussed in the gay community (GRID morphed into AIDS). GRID was thought to be due to some very obvious things we gay men were doing to our bodies at the time, like incredible amounts of drugs, antibiotics (for all the STDs that were occurring from way way too much sex). But, the virus hunters at the CDC couldn't let this be a problem of toxicology. No. AIDS was invented, not the "virus", but AIDS. All anybody had to do was find people who were either sick or healthy and then "treat" them with some pretty scary drugs back then, especially antifungals and antibiotics. Then, when people's immune systems began to break down, they had a "virus" to conveniently blame. But, Gallo never proved his case...first that he had successfully isolated a causative agent, and that this agent actually did ANYTHING.

I've had friends die, and they went to their deathbeds believing a virus was to blame, when they were mercilessly drugged to death with high-dose AZT. It's no wonder their bodies gave out. That stuff IS deadly.

But, you've got to want to research this, and open your mind that what you see on the surface may not be the truth. Hey, think about THIS...the drug companies make BILLIONS off of AIDS drugs every year. Sound like a racket?
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FAIL FAIL FAIL. AIDS denial is ridiculous and ignorant.
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visna virus causes AIDS
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In specifics, sheep visna and bovine tuberculosis - recombinant.
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I saw a Red-Nose [I think?] advert the other day, asking specifically for donations [of £12 - £14 per. week] to help children who had been made orphans by AIDS.

Just seemed a bit odd to me.
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HIV satisfied Koch's Postulates for causation of acquired immunodeficiency disease.

QED

Anything else is STUPID.
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HIV satisfied Koch's Postulates for causation of acquired immunodeficiency disease.

QED

Anything else is STUPID.
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Actually, no, it didn't satisfy Koch's Postulates, but the AIDS industry and the "denialists" have been arguing about that one for a couple decades.

It's up to curious people to start asking questions. Most people show an amazing lack of curiousity when it comes to HIV/AIDS, and are VERY content to go along with the party line. For such an important issue, it's kind of scary how content people are to have the MSM tell them what's what.
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I saw a Red-Nose [I think?] advert the other day, asking specifically for donations [of £12 - £14 per. week] to help children who had been made orphans by AIDS.

Just seemed a bit odd to me.
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Red-Nose clown?

If what these dissident doctors say is true, that HIV is harmless, and AIDS has other causes, then children shouldn't have it at all. Yet, Africa is going full steam medicating the AIDS children.

Their S. African president was onboard with the Truth about AIDS and HIV but he was replaced.
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To bad every AIDS denialist out there won't put their money where their mouth is and have unprotected sex with a known HIV+ person. If the evidence is so irrefutable then the AIDS denialists have nothing to fear.
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To bad every AIDS denialist out there won't put their money where their mouth is and have unprotected sex with a known HIV+ person. If the evidence is so irrefutable then the AIDS denialists have nothing to fear.
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Yeah! Or injected with "a virus that does not exist".....

That's what they call it! Get the shot!
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To bad every AIDS denialist out there won't put their money where their mouth is and have unprotected sex with a known HIV+ person. If the evidence is so irrefutable then the AIDS denialists have nothing to fear.
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Actually, I've never heard one AIDS denialist talk about "irrefutable evidence". Maybe you can find some quotes for us?

What I DO hear the "denialists" talk about is ASKING QUESTIONS and digging under the surface. Like I said, it's scary how UNcurious people are when it comes to HIV/AIDS. Most people just believe what they're told, even on conspiracy forums!

But, hey! Guess what!? AIDS is the ONE TIME that the pharmacuetical companies care about people and not profits. Remember...they make those "life-saving drugs", a term, no doubt coined by somebody in the drug companies.

So, you can rag on the drug companies for all the evil they do EXCEPT WITH AIDS.
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To bad every AIDS denialist out there won't put their money where their mouth is and have unprotected sex with a known HIV+ person. If the evidence is so irrefutable then the AIDS denialists have nothing to fear.



Actually, I've never heard one AIDS denialist talk about "irrefutable evidence". Maybe you can find some quotes for us?

What I DO hear the "denialists" talk about is ASKING QUESTIONS and digging under the surface. Like I said, it's scary how UNcurious people are when it comes to HIV/AIDS. Most people just believe what they're told, even on conspiracy forums!

But, hey! Guess what!? AIDS is the ONE TIME that the pharmacuetical companies care about people and not profits. Remember...they make those "life-saving drugs", a term, no doubt coined by somebody in the drug companies.

So, you can rag on the drug companies for all the evil they do EXCEPT WITH AIDS.
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So basically you know you're talking shit.
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Truth: HIV has never been isolated. We have a lot of nice pictures of a theoretical virus, but not the actual virus itself.

Truth: The drugs that we give the person with the suspected HIV virus actually kills the person (or kills the immune system which ultimately leads to the death of the person).

Truth: Anyone with elevated stress levels can test positive for HIV (which is just about everyone today).

Check out these videos for more info:
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Truth: HIV has never been isolated. We have a lot of nice pictures of a theoretical virus, but not the actual virus itself.

Truth: The drugs that we give the person with the suspected HIV virus actually kills the person (or kills the immune system which ultimately leads to the death of the person).

Truth: Anyone with elevated stress levels can test positive for HIV (which is just about everyone today).


 Quoting: BRING THE DOOM 335284


SO DOES CHEMOTHERAPY FOR "CANCER"....See any similarities??????????????

**That was a HINT!**
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THE GREAT HIV / AIDS HOAX

The multi-billion dollar AIDS/HIV fraud is based on two fabrications: that AIDS is a single disease and that it is caused by the HI virus or the "HIV virus".

In Japan "AIDS" is virtually unknown : yet, in random tests, 25% of people were found to be "HIV-positive".

HIV-positive response means nothing of any relevance to health: it can be triggered by vaccination, malnutrition, M.S., measles, influenza, papilloma virus wart, Epstein Barr virus, leprosy, glandular fever, hepatitis, syphillis ... : over sixty different conditions.

Dr Robert E. Willner, inoculated himself with the blood of Pedro Tocino, a HIV-positive haemophiliac, on live Spanish television : an event which was not picked up the pharma-beholden British or US media.

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Dr Kary Mullis, Nobel Laureate

"If you think a virus is the cause of AIDS, do a control without it....it hasn't been done. The epidemiology of AIDS is a pile of anecdotal stories, selected to fit the virus/AIDS hypothesis..."



Dr Peter Duesberg, Member National Academy of Sciences

"Nobody wants to look at the facts...I've sent countless letters to medical journals...they simply ignore them."



Prof Gordon Stewart, Public Health University of Glasgow

"The cause of AIDS is multiufactorial; HIV is neither necessary nor sufficient."



Dr Lawrence Bradford, biologist

"I am well convinced that HIV is harmless."



Dr Fabio Franchi, specialist infectious disease

"...AIDS is not a disease at all - it is a government program."
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Truth: HIV has never been isolated. We have a lot of nice pictures of a theoretical virus, but not the actual virus itself.

Truth: The drugs that we give the person with the suspected HIV virus actually kills the person (or kills the immune system which ultimately leads to the death of the person).

Truth: Anyone with elevated stress levels can test positive for HIV (which is just about everyone today).

Check out these videos for more info:
[link to www.truthforlifeforum.com]
[link to www.truthforlifeforum.com]
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All AIDS denialist "facts" are anywhere from 20-30 years old. Are you still using an Apple II to post on GLP? No?! Then get current fucking data while you're at it.
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Truth: HIV has never been isolated. We have a lot of nice pictures of a theoretical virus, but not the actual virus itself.

Truth: The drugs that we give the person with the suspected HIV virus actually kills the person (or kills the immune system which ultimately leads to the death of the person).

Truth: Anyone with elevated stress levels can test positive for HIV (which is just about everyone today).




SO DOES CHEMOTHERAPY FOR "CANCER"....See any similarities??????????????

**That was a HINT!**
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People who normally are quite suspect of the motives of our FOR PROFIT medical industry tend to have a very difficult time (at best) considering that perhaps all is not what it appears to be with HIV/AIDS.

But, there it is...sticking out like a sore thumb for nearly 30 years, and billions and billions of dollars thrown at it with nothing to show except that people aren't dying as quickly as they used to (they also AREN'T given high-dose AZT anymore...you do the math).

Drug company criticisms go out the window with HIV/AIDS and are instead replaced with haloes over their corporate heads. Gays and blacks are stigmatized, then drugged, and everybody is happy with that.

Why is it that HIV knows where all the black people live? It's like it can find them, no matter what continent they're in. Pretty smart little bugger, wouldn't you say?

Anyway...if people have even an inkling of curiousity and open minds, there's plenty of resources out there. Is HIV/AIDS a scam? I don't know. Is anybody making lots of money off of it? Nah...those drug companies do it out of altruism, same with the doctors at the top of the ladder. Nope, no conspiracy here!
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All AIDS denialist "facts" are anywhere from 20-30 years old. Are you still using an Apple II to post on GLP? No?! Then get current fucking data while you're at it.
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The establishment used to claim it took 10 years for the virus to develope into full blown AIDS, but thats not how a virus works, and so they have droped those claims. Fact is, it is up to Gallo to prove his disease.
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Gays always post these threads because they think it will excuse their fecal potty behavior and make their VD somebody else's fault. Oh it must be a government conspiracy, it can't possibly be because of your disgusting anal sexual preferences.


the first symptom of aids is you get this pounding sensation in your ass.
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Gays always post these threads because they think it will excuse their fecal potty behavior and make their VD somebody else's fault. Oh it must be a government conspiracy, it can't possibly be because of your disgusting anal sexual preferences.


the first symptom of aids is you get this pounding sensation in your ass.
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That is the stupidest statement I have read in the 5 or so years Ive been coming here. If you had a miniscule thread of knowledge about most anything you would still be classed a moran.


You should definately be standing on a ledge, with your family members yelling jump.


STUPID STUPID ASS, and a homophobe besides. By the way , you can contract hiv from hetero behavior, but you woldn't understand.



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I'm not even a little homo, just don't like eugenics. You could be next. The HIV test gives false positives. The homos will have to change their lifestyle to avoid this condition called AIDS, according to leading retrovirologist Dr. Peter Duesberg, who has worked with HIV. I believe what he says is the leading cause of AIDS among the homos is stds and drug use that lowers their immune system.

Russia has a very white population with what is called AIDS among the iv drug uses.
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I believe the evidence is clear that HIV causes AIDS.

But I also believe that HIV, as it were, was manufactured in a US Army lab. I was in the Army in 1990, stationed at Fort Benning, and was in the library killing time. I came across an old (mid-70's) copy of an Army chem and bio warfare journal. In it, the authors were postulating that "green monkey virus" could be a potent bio-weapon if engineered to infect humans.

I don't remember the specifics, but it was chilling reading the article since AIDS had been a part of our reality for nearly 10 years at that point.

Since then, I have come to learn that indeed the US Army requested funding in the early 70's for research on retroviruses and specifically green monkey virus - let's be clear - the Army wanted and was researching the type of virus that later came to be known as HIV. So one of two things happened.

Either A)the Army wanted such a virus, sought and received funding to develop such a virus (at the same time that Kissinger and ZBig were developing policies to deal with "the population bomb"), but nature beat the USA to the punch, or B) the US Army succeeded in their development of the virus, and either intentionally or unintentionally spawned the HIV epidemic.

The second scenario seems more probable to me.

Especially when you take into account other oddities, like the nearly spontaneous incubation of four different stands of the HIV virus in very divergent populations and on different continents.

I mean we're supposed to believe that different strains of the virus exploded into the population in the mid seventies in Africa, New York, and LA? All because of a horny airline steward? In all these years, then, why hasn't the strain of virus that predominates in Africa, and is much more easily transmitted heterosexually, become dominant on US shores?

In the black community there is widespread fear that HIV was manufactured to specifically target Africans, gays, and other undesirables - The truth is, I think they are absolutely right. HIV is genocide on a massive scale.

Just as Willie Brown was warned 8 hours before 911 to not fly, I am sure prominent blacks have been "clued in" as to the real origin and purpose of the HIV/AIDS epidemic.

We can do all we can to help people with AIDS - but the nightmare will not end until the truth comes out, and the US commits the resources necessary to undo the damage they've caused (but that is about as likely as war reparations to the Vietnamese by Dow chemical).
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I believe what he says is the leading cause of AIDS among the homos is stds and drug use that lowers their immune system.

Which brings us back to 1982, and before GRID got turned into AIDS. It made a lot of sense, but where's the money to be made in something that's as easily solved as saying "cut back on all the sex (with the endless stream of antibiotics to combat the recurrent STDs), and stop doing all the drugs". Yet, this was the message in my enlightened gay group in college.

There's no money to be made in something that requires people to just make some relatively simple changes in their lives. There's LOTS and LOTS of money to be made off a phoney virus and sham tests and fear.
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I guess you have never seen anyone die from HIV/AIDS
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No and neither have you.
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FAIL FAIL FAIL. AIDS denial is ridiculous and ignorant.
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Your IQ is extremely low and you have a brain cognitive disorder

this thread is not denying AIDS, its saying what TOP VIROLOGISTS have been saying, that AIDS EXISTS, but HIV is not the cause

do you understand, retard?



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But I also believe that HIV, as it were, was manufactured in a US Army lab. I was in the Army in 1990, stationed at Fort Benning, and was in the library killing time. I came across an old (mid-70's) copy of an Army chem and bio warfare journal. In it, the authors were postulating that "green monkey virus" could be a potent bio-weapon if engineered to infect humans.

And, right on time...here comes the deliberate disinfo.

It was made in a lab. Yes, if only there was an "it" that was ever properly isolated and shown to cause what it said it caused.

Well, folks. Do your research.
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AIDS denialists

homophobe

You should definately be standing on a ledge, with your family members yelling jump.

you woldn't understand.




yes commissar!!!!!!!


That is the stupidest statement I have read in the 5 or so years Ive been coming here. If you had a miniscule thread of knowledge about most anything you would still be classed a moran.


You should definately be standing on a ledge, with your family members yelling jump.


STUPID STUPID ASS, and a homophobe besides. By the way , you can contract hiv from hetero behavior, but you woldn't understand.



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