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I feel sick, Obama just overturned Bush policy on stem cells

 
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It is one of the heights of this selfish society. The people calling to get it done don't even know the facts on it..
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Aren't the cells only taken from the placenta? It's a very small quantity. When I see religious people bashing this, I wonder what they'd do if it would save their children? Everything is of God the Source. There's no "OLD MAN"!
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Re: I feel sick, Obama just overturned Bush policy on stem cells
Aren't the cells only taken from the placenta? It's a very small quantity. When I see religious people bashing this, I wonder what they'd do if it would save their children? Everything is of God the Source. There's no "OLD MAN"!
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They say they are only going to use them from unwanted embryos from fertility clinics.

They are already using stem cells from the chord/placenta.
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03/09/2009 09:23 PM
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Just another reason for YHWH to not hold back on judgement against this nation. Come Yahushua Come!
I can't wait to see EVERY KNEE BOW TO HIM!
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what a stoooooopid fug head you are.


Fuk your motherfu*king douche bag as*wipe make believe god doodo.

christers are too brainwashed to realize the fact that the god character and the jesus characters are made up characters.

Both are just make believe.

Neither one exsits.

Both are imaginary

Therefore one can say without fear that the bible god and his bastard kid characters are both hump backed humpty dumpty flaming fags.

See?

They can't do a single thing.

Nada

Zippo

Zilch.

They are both huge empty jokes on you silly brain washed christers.


I have been kicking the sh*t out of them for thirty years.

Did I mention they are both flaming, and I do mean
flameing...... gays.

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03/09/2009 09:35 PM
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Yipeee

Purple lips for everyone.
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03/09/2009 09:40 PM
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Re: I feel sick, Obama just overturned Bush policy on stem cells
PRAISE BE THE LORD!!

He had the courage to overturn that ignorant asses policy!!!

Bush will always SUCK!!!!

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Are you sure you want some scientist messing around with DNA and transplanting it into your body?

At the expense of an unborn child.

Think about the lovely frankenfoods they've created, then get back to me on this.
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OP just what do you think they do with the left over embryos? They are likely destroyed if not used.

Go ahead and cry... but you are in the minority.
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Re: I feel sick, Obama just overturned Bush policy on stem cells
Feeling sick?
That's the religious and moral brainwashing taking effect.

Your attitude makes ME sick.

When you can separate yourself from those falsely implanted notions and emotions you'll be able to see that this is one of the best things that could ever happen to advance our medical sciences.

I suppose you could just tell quadriplegics that the idea of Stem Cells make you sick, they might feel some small amount of pity for you and agree to pass on a chance to walk again or hug their children or parents or pass on the chance to get out of adult diapers and wipe their own ass again.

After all the little emotions of the OP and people like the OP should matter more than being able to walk again.
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03/09/2009 10:17 PM
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If people can take religion out of this for a moment, they'll see that this is opening the door for some scary stuff. It's NOT about the stem cells.

And for all the lefties, atheists and people for whom science is their religion, really, do you think the government is suddenly into doing good things for the people?

Idiots.
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03/09/2009 10:19 PM
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OP is a fucking idiot.

Maybe what ever it is that makes you feel sick can be cured by the stem cell research.

This has the potential to save lives, help cure people, etc, don't let your bullshit religious beliefs lead you further down the road to ignorance.
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03/09/2009 10:22 PM
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3000(or more) of our soldiers have died-100,000 Iraqi (or more) have died because of lies by Bush-if you weep for stemcells-then I dont feel sorry for you
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Woot! Go Science!

pdance


About time...
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03/09/2009 10:33 PM
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I can see by the many posts here that it really isn't about SCIENCE. It's about science versus religion.

Like I said...is the government suddenly into doing good things for the people?
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03/09/2009 10:47 PM
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We may not have a manufacturing base, but until Bush II our country could at least do two two things really well; invent things, and bomb the shit out of your country. Now we're at least back to having two options.
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We may not have a manufacturing base, but until Bush II our country could at least do two two things really well; invent things, and bomb the shit out of your country. Now we're at least back to having two options.
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That was beautiful. Thank you for sharing.
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03/09/2009 10:56 PM
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Maybe the sick feeling the OP has is something more serious that can only be cured through the wonders of stem cell research!
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Re: I feel sick, Obama just overturned Bush policy on stem cells
Basic Anatomy Lesson on stem cells:
Stem cells have potential to become cells and/or tissue. The potential for becoming certain cells depends on their type. We have many different cells responsible for the make up of our body.

Embryonic stem cells are:
Totipotent cells: can become any type of cell.
Pluripotent: can become most, but not all types of cells. The only cells it is not capable of are those of the placenta, which is produced by the totipotent cells.
*These are found in the umbilical cord, hence why some moms are choosing to keep these.
Adult stem cells are:
Multipotent: can become several types of cells (found typically in adult tissue ie: cardiac, neural, and bone marrow stem cells.)
Unipotent: can become one specialized cell- have the ability to self renew, which is the major characteristic of a stem cell. Hence why stem cells are sought after.

Adults have multipotent cells which eventually turn into unipotent cells (which are found in our tissue, and can yeild a specific cell). For example, the epithelium (the outermost skin layer.) The problem with unipotent and multipotent is it is specific (cannot develop into multiple cells)and they are rare. The zygote/embryo consists of far more. The capability to produce totipotent or pluripotent in adults is not possible, naturally. Since the have already produced all the organs and tissues necessary for life, we have no use for them.

The idea is that they will use embryos left over from in vitro fertilization that would normally be destroyed (for now anyway), which are producing daughter calls (thus DNA). The cells can potentially become tissue, or anything else necessary, since they are totipotent (or multipotent). The hope is cancer- which is a mutation in DNA- will be cured. There are also a lot of other high hopes for stem cell research, such as cardiac tissue regeneration, etc.

MY PROBLEM lies with in vitro fertilization, and everything else that is playing God. It is not a good thing. Just like designer babies and everything else. We are not immortal. Manipulating life to extend our selfish, worthless existance is ridiculous. The only perfect beings are babies, they are the closest thing to God. And we are destroying them to save our pathetic lives.

Take anatomy, learn how the body works. It's an amazing machine. The most incredible thing in the universe. Yet, we try to improve upon perfection. A majority of illnesses have been created by our inability to deal with the fact that everyone dies. This world will turn into one of those movies where everyone has petri dish babies that are tested for their genetic potential. If they are not up to code, they will be destroyed and used to heal some 200 year old selfish person.

It's a downward spiral.
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03/09/2009 11:43 PM
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Usually there's a defect in the fetus that causes it to be miscarried.

Do you want defective genetic material gene spliced to you?
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Oh I see you're a learned expert on the whole subject
rolleyes
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03/09/2009 11:46 PM
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Why let all those dead babies go to waste?
Didn't your mother teach you not to waste?
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Re: I feel sick, Obama just overturned Bush policy on stem cells
The idea is that they will use embryos left over from in vitro fertilization that would normally be destroyed (for now anyway), which are producing daughter calls (thus DNA). The cells can potentially become tissue, or anything else necessary, since they are totipotent (or multipotent). The hope is cancer- which is a mutation in DNA- will be cured. There are also a lot of other high hopes for stem cell research, such as cardiac tissue regeneration, etc.

MY PROBLEM lies with in vitro fertilization, and everything else that is playing God. It is not a good thing. Just like designer babies and everything else. We are not immortal. Manipulating life to extend our selfish, worthless existance is ridiculous. The only perfect beings are babies, they are the closest thing to God. And we are destroying them to save our pathetic lives.



It's a downward spiral.
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As far as humans playing God, that's been going on for millenia. So...there.

This whole thing IS NOT about the stem cells. It's about opening up other doors, and they are very dark. But, there area people who are moist over this because they see it as a small triumph of science over religion. Me, I don't care about that as I see science as just another religion.

The idiots that are moist over this decision really are out of touch with reality. There's NO MONEY in curing cancer or any other disease in which the medical industry reaps great profit.
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We may not have a manufacturing base, but until Bush II our country could at least do two two things really well; invent things, and bomb the shit out of your country. Now we're at least back to having two options.


That was beautiful. Thank you for sharing.
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Yes, let's injure more people so that we can then spend billions of dollars researching how to cure those injuries. Brilliant!
Like a dog chasing it's own fucking tail. (Orobourous)
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My GOD is Love and is a HEALER and wants Cures and Miracles. My GOD does not Judge, he is all


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If your motherfu*king god character doesn't like to have aborted fetuses used for research let him stop it himself.

pray to you prik god to stop stem cell research using freshly aborted fetuses

.........and see what good that does heh........


BUWUWUWUWWUHAHAHAHAAHAAHahahahaahahahaah

Otherwise stfu.

But no...... you brain dead chrsiters alway try to get
LAWS passed.

Your sh*thead douche bag crapface god character doesnt and cant do shit.

Thats because....

It's not there.

Its nowhere.

Its nothing.

So get the fuk out of the way and stfu.


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Stem Cell Research helps in creating new cures for dreaded diseases. Soon Diseases will be extinct and wiped off the face of the earth and everyone will live a thousand years.
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Stem Cell Research helps in creating new cures for dreaded diseases. Soon Diseases will be extinct and wiped off the face of the earth and everyone will live a thousand years.
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But if we cure diseases what will prevent overpopulation?

Diseases are good because the cull the herd
, so that there are more natural resources left for the survivors.

The last thing we need on this planet is more humans (or humans who live longer) to fight with over limited resources.
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Re: I feel sick, Obama just overturned Bush policy on stem cells
That's right. I'm an atheist but I'm against stem cells.. why?

Cus fuck 'em. That's why. Fuck the sick. Let them die so there are more natural resources for me. The sick disgust me, I have no use for them, they are not profitable for me unless I can sell them useless shit and take what little money they have.

Why are you idiots getting all sentimental all of a sudden?

"OO, we need to care for the sick, ooo, we care about them, blah blah blah"
SHUT THE FUCK UP! I don't care about your worthless, burdensome sick!
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The Lame shall WALK and the Blind shall SEE.
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But the stupid who follow obamalamadingdong will remain idiots.
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Re: I feel sick, Obama just overturned Bush policy on stem cells
Are you sure you want some scientist messing around with DNA and transplanting it into your body?

At the expense of an unborn child.

Think about the lovely frankenfoods they've created, then get back to me on this.
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So is that were all these right wing fools came from? I was wondering. They're just not natural.
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First off, I am a person of faith. I believe in God and Jesus.

That said, there is NOTHING wrong with us humans using our God given brains to discover a way to advance ourselves. Stem Cell research can save lives. It can give us humans hope to heal ourselves in ways we never dreamed. For Bush to have shut it down was to keep us human species locked up.

We have EVERY right as a human being to use the resources we were given - our brains, knowledge and discoveries - to further our race/species. To say otherwise is just ridiculous!

Come on people WAKE UP. Where in the bible does it say God wants us to stay in a box and not advance and heal ourselves? Yes, love and faith heals, too. God heals. Jesus used to lay his hands on people thousands of years ago and healed people.

People of faith - do you not believe that everything that happens is MEANT to happen?

Relax... put your efforts into getting angry over some other atrocity, like perhaps our corrupt government. Or poverty. Or the fact that we humans are living on a slave planet fueled by greed and consumerism. It's time we humans woke the HELL up and moved on to bigger and better things.
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Still supportive?

Transhumanism, vaccines.

This all laid the groundwork for funding our current nightmare.
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03/09/2009

Didn't think they kept posts this far back.





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