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Moon Landing Hoax Apollo 16 : Two Stagehands Are Seen in The Fake Moon Bay Next To An Astronaut

 
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Two Stagehands Are Seen in The Fake Moon Bay, One Hands The Astronaut a List, Behind The Lunar Module. The Other Picks up Something off The Ground in Preparation For The Lunar Module Props Hidden Wires Lift-off in The Fake Moon Bay. After Picking up Something, The Stagehand Hides Again Behind An Object To The Right of The Lunar Module.
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The man wearing conventional clothing - not a spacesuit - bending down and touching the ground at the extreme right of the frame was really strange. How could they do that, and not eliminate it before the film was made available to the public?

The Internet is sometimes just terrific.
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Looks fake. Not that I disagree that the moon landing was a hoax. Any links to NASA footage of this?
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[link to history.nasa.gov]
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Hmm, interesting indeed. scratching
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Everything you thought you knew about life was a lie. We've been used. All of this was manipulating up to today's crisis.
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The man wearing conventional clothing - not a spacesuit - bending down and touching the ground at the extreme right of the frame was really strange. How could they do that, and not eliminate it before the film was made available to the public?

The Internet is sometimes just terrific.
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back then there was no internet or even a dream of it. They never considered anyone could see anything on a scratchy black and white tv...remember there was no widespread color tv then either.
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Let me see. If you go to the NASA website you can't find the video can you?
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Definite BULLSHIT with this one folks. Just checked the 2 clips that the youtube user suggested you could get the evidence from. Yet, after watching them, nothing. Fake like I had assumed.

No wonder he blocked all ratings and comments

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They're just a couple of 'moon roadies' who don't do suits, who travelled to the moon first in their beat up volkswagon van to prepare the sand for walking on, or whatever. Yeah..! there's always 'roadies' walking about on the moon without space suits on.. just casual dress. It's real, don't worry!
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How about you link to the SPECIFIC video on Nasa's site that shows the "stagehand"

Foolio...
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Let me see. If you go to the NASA website you can't find the video can you?
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NFL football fields are 360 feet by 160 feet, clearly a capable task for the Hubble since it has a maximum resolution of 0.014 arc seconds. If the Hubble were aimed at the Moon, it would be able to resolve objects no smaller than 27 meters (88.5 feet) across.

it would be able to resolve objects no smaller than 27 meters (88.5 feet) across.
it would be able to resolve objects no smaller than 27 meters (88.5 feet) across.

[link to www.aerospaceweb.org]


hf


An 8in x 10in glossy of the Lunar landing site the size of a NFL football field is clearly possible for Hubble to accomplish, and like any Sunday afternoon football fan you can clearly see the players and the football from an ANGULAR RESOLUTION position like the Goodyear Blimp.



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Hey NASA, complacency will be your down-fall.

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You fawkin losers keep believing stupidity while the Government steals the Public coffers (10 Trillion debt).


Lets NASA keep you all asleep with their PLASTER model moon.


The INDISPUTABLE proof that the Gov/NASA lies is the depth of the craters, all the craters of the MOON have the same depth alike, from the smallest craters to the largest one. This would be IMPOSSIBLE if these photos were genuine and if craters really existed on the MOON. Because the biggest meteorites would leave a deeper impression in the ground, the greater the mass/volume, the greater the meteorites impact into the ground, leaving a deeper mark.


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Definite BULLSHIT with this one folks. Just checked the 2 clips that the youtube user suggested you could get the evidence from. Yet, after watching them, nothing. Fake like I had assumed.

No wonder he blocked all ratings and comments

bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628676

I just had a look myself, and it does says in the info on the right, that the two color clips are from NASAs site, and the other black & white tv video is from another youtube poster. The maker of this video has merged the two different tv camera scenes to give the understanding of what was going on related to the words being spoken.

NASA black & white top secret video taken of the two Stagehands seen in the Fake Moon Bay with the Astronaut, was provided originally by a YouTube user called 'rudbrps' & loaded on YouTube June 15, 2007. The original video can be viewed at:
[link to www.youtube.com]
rudbrps states "my granddad passed away abou t a year ago, he worked for Johnson space center or nasa back in the 1960s. our family held an estate sale, and we found a reel of old movie film in his safe. It had it cnverted to videotape-this is what it shows. I dont know what to make of it, but it looks odd to me .
I dunno if this will get me int trouble but I hope not. I felt i had to share it"

Wouldn't it be great if more people, unlike the bullshit poster above, could actually read, and comprehend what is being said.
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Definite BULLSHIT with this one folks. Just checked the 2 clips that the youtube user suggested you could get the evidence from. Yet, after watching them, nothing. Fake like I had assumed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628676


What a moronic comment. The first link shows the same clip as OP's and the other link is the Apollo 16 video library with just a bunch of other video links. Maybe the original is there and maybe not, but in no way do the links discredit the video.

Anxious to brush this off as a fake, arent we now??
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The radio activity over "being handed a list" is Young taking a reading off the LPM -- [link to ares.jsc.nasa.gov]

It takes the device 60 seconds to stabilize after the range switches are altered -- this is almost certainly what the "minute" requested by Young is, and why he begins the readout shortly after Ground says "ten seconds."

So almost certainly, the OP has the voices swapped (not hard to do -- you can't see lips move through a space suit.) The "kneeling stage hand" is the LPM, on the end of a long cable, and Duke is the one over by the LM.

The reason Duke is standing by the LM without moving, and the reason Young comments, laughing, that he's gotten a historical picture -- well, it's too funny to spoil by saying it now. Read the journal yourself. Already I've apparently spent more time researching this than the OP has.
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NASA black & white top secret video taken of the two Stagehands seen in the Fake Moon Bay with the Astronaut, was provided originally by a YouTube user called 'rudbrps' ...
rudbrps states "my granddad passed away abou t a year ago, he worked for Johnson space center or nasa back in the 1960s. our family held an estate sale, and we found a reel of old movie film in his safe. It had it cnverted to videotape-this is what it shows.
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Err, no. This was clearly video, not film transfer. It is simply a clearer version of the same video transmission (via the camera on the Rover) than the heavily-compressed Real Video clips at the NASA site.
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Definite BULLSHIT with this one folks. Just checked the 2 clips that the youtube user suggested you could get the evidence from. Yet, after watching them, nothing. Fake like I had assumed.


What a moronic comment. The first link shows the same clip as OP's and the other link is the Apollo 16 video library with just a bunch of other video links. Maybe the original is there and maybe not, but in no way do the links discredit the video.

Anxious to brush this off as a fake, arent we now??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 553282

It is there on NASAs site, look at what he writes,

This video as you hear & see it, is located for download at NASA site:
[link to history.nasa.gov]
Apollo 16 Video Library
VIP Site
Journal Text: 170:45:07 RealVideo Clip: (3 minutes 18 seconds)
Journal Text: 170:48:20 RealVideo Clip: (3 minutes 21 seconds)

For the simple people that can not read, or do not understand how to follow a simple number system classification.

Go to the NASA site, then scroll down, until you see on the left, the two different video numbers 170:45:07 & 170:48:20
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I just hope someday soon we'll possess the same technological communication systems the Apollo crew used in the 1960's to communicate with Houston. They were hundreds of thousands of miles and not a break in communication.


I go across interstate and that's it, no signal, no reception, no Houston.


I think its about time we modernized and got up to date with the 1960's.
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[link to history.nasa.gov]


How about you link to the SPECIFIC video on Nasa's site that shows the "stagehand"

Foolio...
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How about you read the SPECIFIC video titles for yourself on the Youtube page

crazy
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The reason Duke is standing by the LM without moving, and the reason Young comments, laughing, that he's gotten a historical picture -- well, it's too funny to spoil by saying it now. Read the journal yourself. Already I've apparently spent more time researching this than the OP has.
 Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 627742

Actually you are incorrect nomuse, astronaut Charlie Duke is not standing by the LM, he is actually standing by the rover where the tv camera is. The youtube poster even says this.

The second NASA video posted after the first one 'Journal Text: 170:48:20 RealVideo Clip: (3 minutes 21 seconds)' Shows Duke running over to the LM from where the rover is.
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This should book end the Lunar Landing in the Pinocchio section.


The overwhelming PROOF that the moon landing is a HOAX is the fuel-reservoir. Apollo used in the link below the S-IVB stage to travel the first 384,000 kilometers to get to the moon, and travel back the 384,000 kilometers with the Apollo command & service module.

[link to www.solcomhouse.com]


The size of the Apollo service module isn't anywhere as big as the S-IV stage fuel tank it took to travel the first 384,000 kilometers to get there. In space there is no friction, no air, meaning that no matter what your cargo is in space its "weightless" alittle spurt from the engine thrusts and objects in motion remain in motion, lol, thus, the same amount of fuel would be needed to travel to the moon & back.


Not to mention 1/6th the amount of fuel would have be needed to bast-off from the moon, since there is 1/6th the gravity compared to earth. Apollo used the S-IC & S-II stage fuel to accomplish this on earth but only a gas tank the size of a lawnmower for the moon. B O G U S !!!
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NASA black & white top secret video taken of the two Stagehands seen in the Fake Moon Bay with the Astronaut, was provided originally by a YouTube user called 'rudbrps' ...
rudbrps states "my granddad passed away abou t a year ago, he worked for Johnson space center or nasa back in the 1960s. our family held an estate sale, and we found a reel of old movie film in his safe. It had it cnverted to videotape-this is what it shows.


Err, no. This was clearly video, not film transfer. It is simply a clearer version of the same video transmission (via the camera on the Rover) than the heavily-compressed Real Video clips at the NASA site.
 Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 627742

Again you are incorrect, the NASA black & white video is from a different tv camera that is based much further to the left of where the rover & color tv camera are sitting.

The angle and perspective is different between the two videos, however the scenes being recorded were exactly the same.
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Over the years when this generation and the next passes away fewer people will give a fuck whether Nasa hoaxed the moon films or not.Nothing anybody here can do anymore,you will just be ridiculed .What if Nasa admits it? nothing will change now.
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If it was filmed from a different perspective at the same time, shouldn't that mean 4 people went to the Moon on Apollo 16? Official documents say the crew consisted of only 3.
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Were the original moon landings recorded onto video tape, in colour or black & white, onto say Betamax SP, or maybe some SONY reel to reel machine, or were all the images instantaniously transferred straight to 24 frame film direct from broadcast? I know colour existed by then, but I'm not sure what the status of video recorder technology was like. It was another 10 years before domestic video recorders were available to buy in the shops. Colour TV was being broadcast by then, so were the moon landing done in colour too?

Another thing that is of concern, it the fact that any video camera equipment, colour or black & white, would have been quite bulky & heavy to carry about on some lunar module & lugging it about all over the moon. Where did they get all the power to run the equipment from? Surely, a huge drain on any batteries on board. Then, how would the equipment cope with extremes, such as severe heat & freezing, sudden air pressure change/working in a vacuum, coping with the 'sun's gamma/x-ray & radiation waves? Even film! would have to cope with extreme temperature changes & radiation. The film stock's, (or even possibly video-tape!?), chemicals would either melt or freeze hard enough to become brittle & crack.
Anyone know if camera equipment would even cope on the moon?
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The radio activity over "being handed a list" is Young taking a reading off the LPM -- [link to ares.jsc.nasa.gov]

It takes the device 60 seconds to stabilize after the range switches are altered -- this is almost certainly what the "minute" requested by Young is, and why he begins the readout shortly after Ground says "ten seconds."

So almost certainly, the OP has the voices swapped (not hard to do -- you can't see lips move through a space suit.) The "kneeling stage hand" is the LPM, on the end of a long cable, and Duke is the one over by the LM.

The reason Duke is standing by the LM without moving, and the reason Young comments, laughing, that he's gotten a historical picture -- well, it's too funny to spoil by saying it now. Read the journal yourself. Already I've apparently spent more time researching this than the OP has.
 Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 627742


Wow. Took Nomuse over 2 hours to respond. You are slippin, dude.
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The reason Duke is standing by the LM without moving, and the reason Young comments, laughing, that he's gotten a historical picture -- well, it's too funny to spoil by saying it now. Read the journal yourself. Already I've apparently spent more time researching this than the OP has.

Actually you are incorrect nomuse, astronaut Charlie Duke is not standing by the LM, he is actually standing by the rover where the tv camera is. The youtube poster even says this.

The second NASA video posted after the first one 'Journal Text: 170:48:20 RealVideo Clip: (3 minutes 21 seconds)' Shows Duke running over to the LM from where the rover is.
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He STARTS by the Rover. There is too much activity in the two different parts of the clip(s) pointed to by the OP to sum it up as two astronauts in specific single locations.

It would be easier to discuss if he was willing to deal with them in isolation. However...I believe he is seeing movement as Charlie gets up to the LM, and confusing what he sees there with the reading Young is taking at the time time; hence his comment about Charlie "being handed a list by a stagehand hiding behind the LM." (I paraphrase).
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The angle and perspective is different between the two videos, however the scenes being recorded were exactly the same.
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Mea culpa again. I thought of the DAC, but the clip looked so similar at first glance I scrolled past it.

Truthfully, I was going through the original You Tube video multiple times, scrolling back and forth, trying to figure out what the OP was going on about. He didn't make it easy. Perhaps next time he could circle his "stagehands" or something. I kept looking at bits of compression noise, checking the time, going back to the description, coming back here, etc., trying to catch the moment he seemed to be talking about.





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