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Gideon Levy / Everyone agrees: War in Gaza was a failure
By Gideon Levy
Tags: IDF, hamas, gaza, israel news

Suddenly we're all in consensus: The recent war in Gaza was a failure. The bon ton now is to list its flaws. Flip-floppers say its "achievements" were squandered; leftists say the war "should never have started" and rightists will say the war "should have lasted longer." But on this they all agree: It was a blunder.

Because we consider the war to have been almost cost-free, with just 13 Israeli dead, it will be the first in 36 years without a Commission of Inquiry formed in its wake.

Of course, the war's blunder was just as serious as its predecessors, but because we did more killing than being killed, because we caused more damage than we sustained, there's nothing deemed worthy of investigation.
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It was all in vain: no progress made, no goal achieved, nothing. Deterrence wasn't reestablished, arms smuggling into Gaza was not stopped, Hamas was not weakened and abducted Israel Defense Forces soldier Gilad Shalit was not freed. On these facts we all agree.

Moreover, we paid a huge price: Hamas is stronger, the hurt Palestinian people are even more hateful toward us, and Israel is viewed as a pariah in world public opinion, with rioting on a basketball court in Ankara where an Israeli team played and the banning of spectators from Israel's Davis Cup tennis encounter with Sweden in Malmo, as the last of the rogue states.

Nobody has to answer for all this, neither the politicians who launched this crazy war nor the army commanders who were their contractors. No one will be impeached, never mind tried in court. Israel's aggressive and violent war machine won't even suffer a tiny dent.

And what of the cheerleaders who sat on the sidelines of this hellish nightmare? Perhaps we should at least hold them accountable? They sat in their television studios and at their newspaper desks. Oh, how the commentators were excited and stirred excitement. They goaded and urged, pushed and applied pressure, begging for more and more war. For months they had been clamoring for their "wide-scale operation," their hearts' desire. When their wish came true they cheered in support and whistled in excitement.

Do not take their actions lightly. They could have had an immense influence over the feeble politicians and graying officers. "Strike out at them," their baritone voices echoed from one part of the country to the other. They asserted it was a just and successful war without peer. They covered the brilliant military maneuvers with gusto, iniquitously hid the horrors, presented an unrestrained offensive against a non-existent enemy as a two-sided war, described troops' unchallenged advances as real combat and a military maneuver carried out on the back of a helpless population as a success.

They appeared at their studios with their mouths still covered with foam left over from their previous successful horror show, the Second Lebanon War. The retired generals and Tarzan commentators, whose coverage of the war in Lebanon was an abominable failure, recycled the same cliches and propaganda dictates. No one considered replacing them after their previous failure. They learned nothing and forgot nothing, and the vast majority of us nodded thoughtlessly at their words, as though they came from above.

The deja vu is striking: Again, just like after the Second Lebanon War, they suddenly became the war's biggest critics, only after it already ended - a matter of timing.

Showing no remorse and much vanity, they now shamelessly admit that the war whose praises they sang has failed. Why did it fail? Because we didn't kill enough people, they explain. If we would have given it a little push and killed 200 more children or massacred 500 more women, then we would have achieved victory.

None of them are asked what would have happened had the war continued. Would Shalit have been freed? Would Hamas have waved the white flag? Would the Palestinian people have joined the Zionist movement?

Now, get ready for the next treat. They've already begun to clamor for a new war in Gaza or Lebanon, whichever comes first. When they get what they ask for they will return to their studios. In the beginning they will offer their support for the war, and then come out against it.

No one will hold them accountable for their vile acts, and there will be nothing new under the sun.
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Everybody? I don't know, the world (and GLP) is full of hardcore Isra-tards.
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Everybody? I don't know, the world (and GLP) is full of hardcore Isra-tards.
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Israel, unlike America, still has freedom of press.
Must be cause they don't feed their own citizens GMO food like that kind we have to eat.
Also, apparently they don't have to breath chemtrails...
Israelis can still think.
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Last update - 18:28 12/03/2009
Gideon Levy / Everyone agrees: War in Gaza was a failure
By Gideon Levy
Tags: IDF, hamas, gaza, israel news

Suddenly we're all in consensus: The recent war in Gaza was a failure. The bon ton now is to list its flaws. Flip-floppers say its "achievements" were squandered; leftists say the war "should never have started" and rightists will say the war "should have lasted longer." But on this they all agree: It was a blunder.

Because we consider the war to have been almost cost-free, with just 13 Israeli dead, it will be the first in 36 years without a Commission of Inquiry formed in its wake.

Of course, the war's blunder was just as serious as its predecessors, but because we did more killing than being killed, because we caused more damage than we sustained, there's nothing deemed worthy of investigation.
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It was all in vain: no progress made, no goal achieved, nothing. Deterrence wasn't reestablished, arms smuggling into Gaza was not stopped, Hamas was not weakened and abducted Israel Defense Forces soldier Gilad Shalit was not freed. On these facts we all agree.

Moreover, we paid a huge price: Hamas is stronger, the hurt Palestinian people are even more hateful toward us, and Israel is viewed as a pariah in world public opinion, with rioting on a basketball court in Ankara where an Israeli team played and the banning of spectators from Israel's Davis Cup tennis encounter with Sweden in Malmo, as the last of the rogue states.

Nobody has to answer for all this, neither the politicians who launched this crazy war nor the army commanders who were their contractors. No one will be impeached, never mind tried in court. Israel's aggressive and violent war machine won't even suffer a tiny dent.

And what of the cheerleaders who sat on the sidelines of this hellish nightmare? Perhaps we should at least hold them accountable? They sat in their television studios and at their newspaper desks. Oh, how the commentators were excited and stirred excitement. They goaded and urged, pushed and applied pressure, begging for more and more war. For months they had been clamoring for their "wide-scale operation," their hearts' desire. When their wish came true they cheered in support and whistled in excitement.

Do not take their actions lightly. They could have had an immense influence over the feeble politicians and graying officers. "Strike out at them," their baritone voices echoed from one part of the country to the other. They asserted it was a just and successful war without peer. They covered the brilliant military maneuvers with gusto, iniquitously hid the horrors, presented an unrestrained offensive against a non-existent enemy as a two-sided war, described troops' unchallenged advances as real combat and a military maneuver carried out on the back of a helpless population as a success.

They appeared at their studios with their mouths still covered with foam left over from their previous successful horror show, the Second Lebanon War. The retired generals and Tarzan commentators, whose coverage of the war in Lebanon was an abominable failure, recycled the same cliches and propaganda dictates. No one considered replacing them after their previous failure. They learned nothing and forgot nothing, and the vast majority of us nodded thoughtlessly at their words, as though they came from above.

The deja vu is striking: Again, just like after the Second Lebanon War, they suddenly became the war's biggest critics, only after it already ended - a matter of timing.

Showing no remorse and much vanity, they now shamelessly admit that the war whose praises they sang has failed. Why did it fail? Because we didn't kill enough people, they explain. If we would have given it a little push and killed 200 more children or massacred 500 more women, then we would have achieved victory.

None of them are asked what would have happened had the war continued. Would Shalit have been freed? Would Hamas have waved the white flag? Would the Palestinian people have joined the Zionist movement?

Now, get ready for the next treat. They've already begun to clamor for a new war in Gaza or Lebanon, whichever comes first. When they get what they ask for they will return to their studios. In the beginning they will offer their support for the war, and then come out against it.

No one will hold them accountable for their vile acts, and there will be nothing new under the sun.
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haaretz is part arab owned ..they need higher viewing rating for advertizers too..yawn .so israel finnaly clobbered some palastinians and hamas .damm what took so long ...
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haaretz is part arab owned ..they need higher viewing rating for advertizers too..yawn .so israel finnaly clobbered some palastinians and hamas .damm what took so long ...
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israel clobbered some palestinians, adolf clobbered some jews.



same shit ......
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haaretz is part arab owned ..they need higher viewing rating for advertizers too..yawn .so israel finnaly clobbered some palastinians and hamas .damm what took so long ...



israel clobbered some palestinians, adolf clobbered some jews.



same shit ......
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indeed
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would someone please nuke Israel so we can start living in peace and get our money back
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would someone please nuke Israel so we can start living in peace and get our money back
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How about if we just declare amnesty and tell all the Israelis they can come back here and put their money in our banks...just stop robbing us and starting wars.
That would help a lot with the banking crisis.
Then we will just give that worthless strip of sand back to the arabs and get on with the work of finding and building free energy devices...so that we don't need their goddam oil wells anyway...
Just sayin.
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would someone please nuke Israel so we can start living in peace and get our money back

How about if we just declare amnesty and tell all the Israelis they can come back here and put their money in our banks...just stop robbing us and starting wars.
That would help a lot with the banking crisis.
Then we will just give that worthless strip of sand back to the arabs and get on with the work of finding and building free energy devices...so that we don't need their goddam oil wells anyway...
Just sayin.
 Quoting: fieldolight



trying to stop the zios, from lusting and lootin power/ money, would be like trying to stop a wolf from wanting to eat chickens in the henhouse.

IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN ....
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when we can start nuke doom of the rock
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would someone please nuke Israel so we can start living in peace and get our money back

How about if we just declare amnesty and tell all the Israelis they can come back here and put their money in our banks...just stop robbing us and starting wars.
That would help a lot with the banking crisis.
Then we will just give that worthless strip of sand back to the arabs and get on with the work of finding and building free energy devices...so that we don't need their goddam oil wells anyway...
Just sayin.



trying to stop the zios, from lusting and lootin power/ money, would be like trying to stop a wolf from wanting to eat chickens in the henhouse.

IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN ....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 633347

ok how about this...regular Israelis can come back here and resume productive lives and stop beating on defenseless indigenous people, stealing stuff and lying about their pasts.
But the hard core zios... We'll start a totally new country, ZIONESIA. It will be a remote island off the South Pole. Only zionists will be allowed in.
We will transport the dome of the rock there.
End of story.
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blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah

Not one word in there about "genocide" or "war crimes"...


Why do you feel the need to be deceptive, if you are so holy?
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blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah

Not one word in there about "genocide" or "war crimes"...


Why do you feel the need to be deceptive, if you are so holy?
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They could have had an immense influence over the feeble politicians and graying officers. "Strike out at them," their baritone voices echoed from one part of the country to the other. They asserted it was a just and successful war without peer. They covered the brilliant military maneuvers with gusto, iniquitously hid the horrors, presented an unrestrained offensive against a non-existent enemy as a two-sided war, described troops' unchallenged advances as real combat and a military maneuver carried out on the back of a helpless population as a success.

They appeared at their studios with their mouths still covered with foam left over from their previous successful horror show, the Second Lebanon War. The retired generals and Tarzan commentators, whose coverage of the war in Lebanon was an abominable failure, recycled the same cliches and propaganda dictates. No one considered replacing them after their previous failure. They learned nothing and forgot nothing, and the vast majority of us nodded thoughtlessly at their words, as though they came from above.

The deja vu is striking: Again, just like after the Second Lebanon War, they suddenly became the war's biggest critics, only after it already ended - a matter of timing.

Showing no remorse and much vanity, they now shamelessly admit that the war whose praises they sang has failed. Why did it fail? Because we didn't kill enough people, they explain. If we would have given it a little push and killed 200 more children or massacred 500 more women, then we would have achieved victory.

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blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah

Not one word in there about "genocide" or "war crimes"...


Why do you feel the need to be deceptive, if you are so holy?
 Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat



perhaps your tribes endless tactics of decpetions, are being learned and used by goyim ?

did you think your tribe would forever be able to use such tactics, without others noticing and realizing how those tactics have been so effective in fooling and looting the goyim for centuries ?
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would someone please nuke Israel so we can start living in peace and get our money back

How about if we just declare amnesty and tell all the Israelis they can come back here and put their money in our banks...just stop robbing us and starting wars.
That would help a lot with the banking crisis.
Then we will just give that worthless strip of sand back to the arabs and get on with the work of finding and building free energy devices...so that we don't need their goddam oil wells anyway...
Just sayin.



trying to stop the zios, from lusting and lootin power/ money, would be like trying to stop a wolf from wanting to eat chickens in the henhouse.

IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN ....

ok how about this...regular Israelis can come back here and resume productive lives and stop beating on defenseless indigenous people, stealing stuff and lying about their pasts.
But the hard core zios... We'll start a totally new country, ZIONESIA. It will be a remote island off the South Pole. Only zionists will be allowed in.
We will transport the dome of the rock there.
End of story.
 Quoting: fieldolight



nope, I like my idea better...

we add up the numerous zios/ dual citizens that have been looting, corrupting and lying within america and destroying this nation, and then send the same number of corrupt, lying goyim over to israel, to infiltrate, monoplize, corrupt and loot / influence that nations banking/ courts/ media/ government, etc....

maybe its time for america and the goyim to become the parasite, and stop playing the host ?
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Muslims want Israel destroyed to sieze it ..Israel fought for 60 years to still survive against muslim oppression in middleast ..Our christian and jewish HolyLand is in Israel..we stand with Israel . our Christian religious roots are in Ancient Judaism of Israel . The Kings Of The Earth Will One Day Bring Thier Glory To Israel .
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Muslims want Israel destroyed to sieze it ..Israel fought for 60 years to still survive against muslim oppression in middleast ..Our christian and jewish HolyLand is in Israel..we stand with Israel . our Christian religious roots are in Ancient Judaism of Israel . The Kings Of The Earth Will One Day Bring Thier Glory To Israel .
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Umm..yeah..okay...if you say so.
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Well I showed Gog the passage in which the writer admitted to the senseless slaughter of civilians and the military assault on a people with no army.
That's a war crime Gog. So is chid murder.
Do you get it now?
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did you think your tribe would forever be able to use such tactics, without others noticing and realizing how those tactics have been so effective in fooling and looting the goyim for centuries ?
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+1
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would someone please nuke Israel so we can start living in peace and get our money back

How about if we just declare amnesty and tell all the Israelis they can come back here and put their money in our banks...just stop robbing us and starting wars.
That would help a lot with the banking crisis.
Then we will just give that worthless strip of sand back to the arabs and get on with the work of finding and building free energy devices...so that we don't need their goddam oil wells anyway...
Just sayin.



trying to stop the zios, from lusting and lootin power/ money, would be like trying to stop a wolf from wanting to eat chickens in the henhouse.

IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN ....

ok how about this...regular Israelis can come back here and resume productive lives and stop beating on defenseless indigenous people, stealing stuff and lying about their pasts.
But the hard core zios... We'll start a totally new country, ZIONESIA. It will be a remote island off the South Pole. Only zionists will be allowed in.
We will transport the dome of the rock there.
End of story.



nope, I like my idea better...

we add up the numerous zios/ dual citizens that have been looting, corrupting and lying within america and destroying this nation, and then send the same number of corrupt, lying goyim over to israel, to infiltrate, monoplize, corrupt and loot / influence that nations banking/ courts/ media/ government, etc....

maybe its time for america and the goyim to become the parasite, and stop playing the host ?
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are you volunteering to go there?
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Well I showed Gog the passage in which the writer admitted to the senseless slaughter of civilians and the military assault on a people with no army.
That's a war crime Gog. So is chid murder.
Do you get it now?
 Quoting: fieldolight


Hamas tries to kill Israeli civilians EVERY DAY - especially children.

Do you get it now?


Dunc1e
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...Hamas tries to kill Israeli civilians EVERY DAY - especially children...
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Israel succeeds in directly or indirectly killing one or more Palestinians somewhere every day. Many more Palestinian children have been killed than Israeli children. It is a lie to say they are all being used as human shields.

Palestinians are also kidnapped practically every day. Thousands are imprisoned in Israel, including many children.
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Israeli govt & army is famous for committing warcrimes for the last 40+ years. That just gets worse every year. They have become Masters in genocide, in torture, in suppression and in starving an entire people based on their race and background. They are the nazi's of our time!
And the US governments and European Governemnts of teh last decades are co-sponsors of that terror and those crimes.
They all belong in a dark deep jail for the rest of their lives!
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Well I showed Gog the passage in which the writer admitted to the senseless slaughter of civilians and the military assault on a people with no army.
That's a war crime Gog. So is chid murder.
Do you get it now?


Hamas tries to kill Israeli civilians EVERY DAY - especially children.

Do you get it now?


:Dunc1e:
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where are the list of israel children/
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Uh, FoL, we don't want them here. We have enough, thanks. Britain created this mess, let Britain take them in.

/HTH
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Israel sucks at genocide. I could have killed more arabs in far less time.
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Right, if you say so.


Israel, unlike America, still has freedom of press.
Must be cause they don't feed their own citizens GMO food like that kind we have to eat.
Also, apparently they don't have to breath chemtrails...
Israelis can still think.
Unlike Americans.
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Killing of any children (especially when it's viewed as 'thinning the hurd') on purpose is very wrong. Both sides, very very wrong. Say it with us, both sides are wrong for it.


Hamas tries to kill Israeli civilians EVERY DAY - especially children.

Do you get it now?


:Dunc1e:
 Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat





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