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Moon Landing Hoax Apollo 14 : Stagehands Lift The Ceiling Cable For The Wheels on The Light-Rail Tracks in The Ceiling of The Fake Moon Bay

 
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Moon Landing Hoax Apollo 14 : Stagehands Lift The Ceiling Cable For The Wheels on The Light-Rail Tracks in The Ceiling of The Fake Moon Bay
Astronauts Attached Ceiling Support Wires While Exiting The Lunar Module- Stagehands Lifted The Ceiling Cable For The Wheels on The Light-Rail Tracks in The Ceiling of The Fake Moon Bay, Which Was Located At The Nevada Test Training Site. The Light-Rail Tracks in The Ceiling, Were Part of The Wire-Rigging Machine That Was Attached To The Astronauts When They Moved Around in The Fake Moon Bays.
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All I can say is, WOW!!!!!!!
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I don't know what could happen to NASA if a hoax finally is verified...
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I don't know what could happen to NASA if a hoax finally is verified...
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I believe it has already been verified, did you watch the video?
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Guess what? The video is no longer available.

CENSORED
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Censored? WHY?
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Guess what? The video is no longer available.

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I already can see it dude
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I don't know what could happen to NASA if a hoax finally is verified...

I believe it has already been verified, did you watch the video?
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No it has not. Somebody need to start a legal demand and the stuff start to roll.
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Funny that Mythbusters proved it

whatever
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I would have had more respect for the mythbusters if they were more truthful, and more in depth about what they were trying to do.

Lets just look at one thing that they did(that has nothing to do with science), the wire rigging system they used in their show that revealed that their movements looked nothing like what the video of the astronauts jumping around supposedly on the moon. Remember also the Vomit Commit plane's movements matches what shows in the Apollo videos.

The proper idea should have been for the mythbusters to find a way to fake the exact look of what the Apollo videos show of the astronauts movements.

Mythbusters had budget constraints, all they could afford was to hire a ready made, one size fits all wire-rigging system. The cord was very thick and bulky. All the mythbusters did was use this one suspension cord to prove that it looks nothing like the Apollo astronauts movements. Hell, I could have told them that even before they hired the wrong sort of equipment before they did the show.

Mythbusters did a major disservice to themselves, the credibility of their show, and also insulted the intelligence of their audience by even attempting that stupid example.

First off, NASA had a multi-billion dollar budget to build a very specific wire-rig pressure machine system, and it was an exact fit for what they wanted to simulate. NASA sought to simulate the look of the astronauts moving around in the vomit commit plane. This is exactly what they got, this expensive wire-rig system that NASA designed and built has never seen the light of day, and never will see the light of day in the commercial wire-rigging sector.
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Moon Landing Hoax Apollo 14 : Stagehands Lift The Ceiling Cable For The Wheels on The Light-Rail Tracks
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Astronauts Attached Ceiling Support Wires While Exiting The Lunar Module- Stagehands Lifted The Ceiling Cable For The Wheels on The Light-Rail Tracks in The Ceiling of The Fake Moon Bay, Which Was Located At The Nevada Test Training Site. The Light-Rail Tracks in The Ceiling, Were Part of The Wire-Rigging Machine That Was Attached To The Astronauts When They Moved Around in The Fake Moon Bays.

Moon Landing Hoax Apollo 17 : Astronauts Ceiling Support Wires Get Tangled Up- Stagehands Fix it
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So no possibility this is falsified audio?
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This video is LAME!

Just because you're not bright enough to put a man on the moon doesn't mean others are not.
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Anyone who believes the moon landing happened are totally retarded and brain washed.

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This video is LAME!

Just because you're not bright enough to put a man on the moon doesn't mean others are not.
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I agree....this does not prove a thing!!! The audio in question was dubbed in.

Fake as hell.
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Anyone who believes the moon landing was faked is totally retarded and brain washed, and really, really stupid.
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This video is LAME!

Just because you're not bright enough to put a man on the moon doesn't mean others are not.

I agree....this does not prove a thing!!! The audio in question was dubbed in.

Fake as hell.
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The audio is right there on the original download, what the poster of the Apollo 14 video has done is take out all the static, and also made louder the back ground talking of the stagehand advising on the ceiling cable being lifted.

What it comes down to is that most US citizens are so God damned lazy that they won't even bother checking directly the evidence that NASA has provided on NASA's very own internet sites.

[link to history.nasa.gov]
Apollo 14 Video Library
Geology Station A
Journal Text: 131:12:46

Your all worthless lazy fuckers, go to hell.
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This video is LAME!

Just because you're not bright enough to put a man on the moon doesn't mean others are not.

I agree....this does not prove a thing!!! The audio in question was dubbed in.

Fake as hell.

The audio is right there on the original download, what the poster of the Apollo 14 video has done is take out all the static, and also made louder the back ground talking of the stagehand advising on the ceiling cable being lifted.

What it comes down to is that most US citizens are so God damned lazy that they won't even bother checking directly the evidence that NASA has provided on NASA's very own internet sites.

[link to history.nasa.gov]
Apollo 14 Video Library
Geology Station A
Journal Text: 131:12:46

Your all worthless lazy fuckers, go to hell.
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Americas are TOO PROUD to admit they fell for it.
They won't admit that they fell for the biggest propoganda scam of this century.
They will argue the absolute stupidity of the moon landing as their national pride is so tied up in putting man on the moon that they can't even believe that there government would con them like this.
Just like 9/11. The government keep doing it because they know they can use Americas patriotism against themselves.

I feel sorry for them.
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I didn't see anything and the audio can be faked.

Where did this footage come from.
Can you get it off Nasa website?
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I didn't see anything and the audio can be faked.

Where did this footage come from.
Can you get it off Nasa website?
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There really are a lot of thick people that post on this site. Don't people know how to read or research anymore?

The location details for the original video & sound from NASA's site is located in the details section on the right of the loaded Apollo 14 YouTube video.

[link to history.nasa.gov]
Apollo 14 Video Library
Geology Station A
Journal Text: 131:12:46

Once you have gone to the direct NASA site to download the relevant Apollo 14 video clip, rip the sound separately with something like VirtualDub. Then place the sound only in a sound tuner like Audacity. Then get rid of the static to clear up the astronauts speaking to each other, then also increase the sound on the part of the video/sound file where the stagehand is announcing the lifting of the ceiling cable for the wheels on the light rail.

Then you have confirmed for yourself that the loaded Apollo 14 video file on YouTube is true and accurate. Then what you do with that truth and knowledge is completely up to yourself. If you can be bothered to demand any truth and action from your government to bring criminal charges against the corrupt NASA organization. Then the bettor for you in regards to democratic transparency and a more truer republic with democratic ideals.
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I didn't see anything and the audio can be faked.

Where did this footage come from.
Can you get it off Nasa website?

There really are a lot of thick people that post on this site. Don't people know how to read or research anymore?

The location details for the original video & sound from NASA's site is located in the details section on the right of the loaded Apollo 14 YouTube video.

[link to history.nasa.gov]
Apollo 14 Video Library
Geology Station A
Journal Text: 131:12:46

Once you have gone to the direct NASA site to download the relevant Apollo 14 video clip, rip the sound separately with something like VirtualDub. Then place the sound only in a sound tuner like Audacity. Then get rid of the static to clear up the astronauts speaking to each other, then also increase the sound on the part of the video/sound file where the stagehand is announcing the lifting of the ceiling cable for the wheels on the light rail.

Then you have confirmed for yourself that the loaded Apollo 14 video file on YouTube is true and accurate. Then what you do with that truth and knowledge is completely up to yourself. If you can be bothered to demand any truth and action from your government to bring criminal charges against the corrupt NASA organization. Then the bettor for you in regards to democratic transparency and a more truer republic with democratic ideals.
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I didn't do that. But your response is interesting. Have you verified that by yourself?
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I didn't see anything and the audio can be faked.

Where did this footage come from.
Can you get it off Nasa website?

There really are a lot of thick people that post on this site. Don't people know how to read or research anymore?

The location details for the original video & sound from NASA's site is located in the details section on the right of the loaded Apollo 14 YouTube video.

[link to history.nasa.gov]
Apollo 14 Video Library
Geology Station A
Journal Text: 131:12:46

Once you have gone to the direct NASA site to download the relevant Apollo 14 video clip, rip the sound separately with something like VirtualDub. Then place the sound only in a sound tuner like Audacity. Then get rid of the static to clear up the astronauts speaking to each other, then also increase the sound on the part of the video/sound file where the stagehand is announcing the lifting of the ceiling cable for the wheels on the light rail.

Then you have confirmed for yourself that the loaded Apollo 14 video file on YouTube is true and accurate. Then what you do with that truth and knowledge is completely up to yourself. If you can be bothered to demand any truth and action from your government to bring criminal charges against the corrupt NASA organization. Then the bettor for you in regards to democratic transparency and a more truer republic with democratic ideals.


I didn't do that. But your response is interesting. Have you verified that by yourself?
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Yes I have, and it is all true and correct just as seen and heard in the Apollo 14 YouTube video. It is also plainly using your common sense for anyone that has any brain cells inside their head.

Don't just sit there looking at the screen, don't be another lazy fucker that does nothing.

Evidence is presented clearly and soundly, it is all presented for anyone to follow the correct verification, do it now.
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Anyone who believes the moon landing was faked is totally retarded and brain washed, and really, really stupid.
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I think I am going to have agree with this.
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Interesting, but it would make NO sense that
NASA would make available a video showing
a rear camera shot which reveals a stagehand
(and the fact that the video is a fake) while
the real action is on the other side of the
capsule...so, this is definitely odd and I would
like to hear how the NASA archive folks explain
this specific video!

If it is real, the it's clear that this video
shows a FAKE MOON video!
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Yes I have, and it is all true and correct just as seen and heard in the Apollo 14 YouTube video. It is also plainly using your common sense for anyone that has any brain cells inside their head.

Don't just sit there looking at the screen, don't be another lazy fucker that does nothing.

Evidence is presented clearly and soundly, it is all presented for anyone to follow the correct verification, do it now.
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Ok, so somebody inside the US should start making questions to the authorities and see the response, specially from NASA. If the answers aren't explaining it, then I think a legal demand should be presented. I mean, it's seriuos.
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I think it diserves a pin.
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Friggin nevada-moon-tards.

Tell me something geniuses, do you think we faked the atomic bomb too? Or how about the space shuttle?

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When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand.

Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"


-Revelation 6:5, 6:6
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Friggin nevada-moon-tards.

Tell me something geniuses, do you think we faked the atomic bomb too? Or how about the space shuttle?
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And it's related to the video how? Thanks for your enlighting input.
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Friggin nevada-moon-tards.

Tell me something geniuses, do you think we faked the atomic bomb too? Or how about the space shuttle?


And it's related to the video how? Thanks for your enlighting input.
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All I saw in the video was a bunch of bright lights. Might as well have called it proof of UFO moon landing during mission.

And what's with the waste of about five minutes of shit, for 15 seconds of the "main event"

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When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand.

Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"


-Revelation 6:5, 6:6
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Pretty garbled audio there.

"if you could close the gimmick":

Pretty clear on a careful listen he is saying "kick it closed." In any case, the number of syllables in "if you could close the gimmick" don't match up with the audio. This is clearly a mis-hear.


"Dust now":

That's "jettison bag." Doesn't even sound slightly similar.


"Okay dust":

That's "Okay, got it." What's this obsession with dust here?



"And I'll come down the outside":

I clearly hear "I'll come down and get it, outside." Again, not even the same number of syllables.


"I just happen to be mustard":

LOL. I had to look in the ALSJ before I could make out these words -- it's pretty garbled, Mitchell is really blurting out the last words. Looks like it is "Just hand it to me, I'm right here." (Or, more phonetically, "Just han' it to me, I'm r'here.")


"The cable is ready, the specific cable that holds the ah, wheels, the, around the Light Rail."

Ah, at least the meat of this. First off, this is nonsensical. You don't use a cable to keep wheels engaged with anything, especially wheels that are "around" a rail. And "light rails" (actually, any kind of lighting batten or truss) is not used for other rigging. They are lightweight, loaded with fragile lighting instruments, and covered with electrical cables. You can't roll up and down one. Now, you could make a combined truss...

But this is interesting. According to the ALSJ, Al should be exiting the spacecraft before any other words are said. This voice that comes in is at a much lower volume than either of the two astronauts, and no part of what it says lines up in syllable count with what is in the transcripts.

However, that same audio IS available in an extended mp3 clip; this is identified as Apollo Control, Houston...and it is talking about something I was already familiar with in this EVA; a broken retracting cable in Al's glove.

Which is very interesting; this is recorded Houston-side while Al was exiting, and the video, if properly synch'd, should have shown Shepard on the surface. The video is far too lossy to see if this is happening, however.

But it is undeniable that the long break-in by Houston while neither astronaut is transmitting is of exceptionally poor audio quality in the YouTube video clip, but quite clear in the mp3 clip. It is also undeniable that the two clips line up syllabicly.

According to my hasty transcript of the audio from the cleaner of the two sources;

HOUSTON: We're ah one hundred and thirty-one hours fifty six minutes. The ah report from Ed Mitchell, um the cable on his wrist, uh this is the cable that holds the, uh, wrist uh glove uh -- it's a right wrist, ah, we ah do not expect at this point to uh for it to inhibit his mobility, uh, to any...appreciable extent. Continuing, uh, in the final phases prior to, uh, egress. This is Apollo Control Houston."
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So I have to offer two comments here. One is a conspiracy theory.

The first is; what does the OP think is the mechanism described? Wheels do not belong on a lighting batten or truss (the term "light rail" isn't used.) You don't move lights, and you don't put moving scenery on lighting pipes.

Let us assume the OP means the astronauts were on flying harnesses to simulate low gravity. Well and good. Hook-up is a need and a procedure. So how is it done in theater?

I have had the opportunity to work with both Flying by Foy and VFX; I was not a flyer or rigger, but I assisted in some of the early rigging and watched flying rehearsals with great interest. (I've also been even more involved in circus rigging.)

For the stage, since the line can't pass through a closed hatch, the second astronaut would be the logical person to snap the hook during the last moments of egress. (Then someone else, probably a hidden crew member, would snap his line as HE egressed.) Of course, this being film, you would do better to start with both lines on, have the astronauts climb back into the craft, then start the filming. Less chance of error that way.

In neither case, though, would anyone be up on the cat. There isn't a need for it. A proper flying rig is run by a fly team on the floor. I mean...hoax believers HAVE heard of pulleys, right?

Actually, a good fly rig is more than a single pulley.

Your basic single-point rig is just a line. At the other end, it can terminate in a grab rope, or connected to an endless loop (I prefer the latter -- VFX prefers the former.) The only outside motion this system can exert is up or down. To make use of it, you plan the blocking so the flier is lifted when at an angle to the pick point, swings through a planned arc, and terminates at another location.

The next step up is the tracking head. This requires two operators; one controls up and down, the other controls horizontal tracking. This is the most common system in theatrical flying. There are variations on the top pulley; it can be a drum, it can even be a self-contained winch motor (that's what the Cirque uses).

After that, there is a two-axis system. The vast majority of two-axis flight in theater is done via two single picks and skilled operators. But some rare systems, for instance a Mary Martin over the house, will make a complete two-axis rig. These take up a huge amount of fly space and basically interfere with everything.


In any case, the only reason to have a technician in the grid is that something went wrong. And since this is film, why, you stop and fix it before resuming the shot.





The conspiracy theory, on the other hand? It is this;

Why did the OP, when given a choice between two audio sources, chose the one that was lower in volume and MORE distorted?





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