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im on an email group list "chemtrail tracking" at yahoo groups.

got this in tonites send. im alarmed that that this members independent lab tests on rain water showed traces of arsenic.(and aluminum/mercury - but no barium)

Reply-to: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: 3/14/2009 10:06:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: [Chem Trail Tracking USA] Oakland, CA Rainwater Test Results


Results from two rainwater tests conducted in Oakland, CA. I'm consulting with a few people for a better explanation of the results, but here they are. I'll upload the actual lab files later on. The vitals:

rainwater collection date 01/25/08:

Arsenic 1.411 ug/L
Cadmium 1.799 ug/L
Aluminum 686.3 ug/L
*Barium not detected

rainwater collection date: 01/21/09

Arsenic <.01 ug/L
Cadmium <.01 ug/L
Chromium <.01 ug/L
Lead <.01 ug/L
Mercury 150 ug/L
Aluminum 668 ug/L
*Barium not detected

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*Dont fuck with me; ill jump on my menstrual cycle & run your ass over ;)
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political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

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when a country is greatly disoriented —as it is currently in America with regards to polarization on many issues— that it’s easy for the Government —and other powers that be— to manipulate the public with lies and deceit. This is not a new strategy, but one that has been implemented in this country —as well as others— for centuries. It’s specifically designed to control the masses by generating and perpetuating confusion. in the past the truth about certain national incidents were not found out and revealed to the public for years. Now, thanks to the internet, it takes only a few months to discover the policies and activities of our Government and mega-corporate empires —that are criminal to say the least.

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Dear Progressives, Feelings aren't facts. Perception is not reality. We are not responsible for your inability to comprehend the difference.

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The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be]

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[link to www.mtshastanews.com]

Mount Shasta, Calif. -
Several Mt. Shasta area residents continue to express their concerns over what they say are toxic levels of aluminum showing up in area rain, snow and pond water samples taken in and around the City of Mt. Shasta.
Recent test results submitted to the Mt. Shasta Area Newspapers by two concerned citizens show levels of aluminum ranging from 198 ug/l (micro grams per liter) to 61,100 ug/l, with the most recent sample taken from a rain gauge within the Mt. Shasta city limits on Feb. 1, showing 1010 ug/l.

According to standards established by the California Environmental Protection agency, this number exceeds the 1000 ug/l Primary MCL maximum contaminant level) for aluminum, qualifying it as unfit for drinking.

The concerns over the apparent high levels of aluminum first surfaced last spring, as a small group of Siskiyou and Shasta county residents began expressing their alarm over what they claim is an aerial spraying program intended to control the weather or thwart global warming.
The issue, commonly referred to as “chemtrails,” is seen by many as nothing more than an internet hoax. Others, however, claim that the lingering plumes of exhaust from planes is part of a world wide program to create a heavy metal “shield” in the atmosphere.

Beginning last spring, some area residents began asserting their consternation over the long lingering clouds seen throughout the area. Proponents of the theory say that contrails, the normal water vapor emitted from jet engines, dissipate quickly, while chemtrails linger for up to half a day, often morphing into a cirrus cloud- like canopy, creating an overcast sky.

History of testing
The regional testing for aluminum began over claims that the exhaust trails consist of aluminum, barium and strontium. Since May, 2008, over 40 samples have been collected, with the majority showing high levels of aluminum.

“This rain water is essentially poisonous,” said Frances Mangels, one of the citizens involved in the sampling.
Mangels has expressed his concerns to local governments and state and federal agencies but has heard no responses to his inquiries.

Science questioned
Perry LeBeouf, a California Department of Water Resources data officer, said the MCL level for any given potential contaminant is typically used to evaluate factors relative to the quality and safety of drinking water systems.
LeBeouf noted that most of the tests for aluminum are done in and around drinking water systems and that there is not a lot of information about aluminum in natural water systems or rain and snow water.

According to LeBeouf, “Aluminum is not very well understood.” He also emphasized that it is a commonly found element and that the levels vary from area to area.
This sentiment was furthered by Siskiyou County Air Pollution Control Officer Eldon Beck, who said that aluminum is not something that is regularly tested in Siskiyou County other than the drinking water system requirements.

Beck noted, “I’ve read reports that there are naturally recurring amounts of aluminum in the atmosphere,” furthering the sentiment expressed by LeBeouf that the samples, while interesting, need more background information to be fully understood.

“I’m fascinated by these numbers and would like to know what this area looks like compared to other areas (in terms of aluminum content in the water),” said Mt. Shasta biologist Rene Henery, who noted that he was not aware of any baseline data for this element in the region but had his concerns that they numbers are high relative to the CEPA primary MCL standards. “Aluminum is definitely super-toxic,” he noted.

One point noted by LeBeouf was that it is not just a question of how much aluminum is in the water. “The PH level of water is also a factor,” he said, noting that there is a broader context that needs exploration whenever sampling occurs.

Guy Chetelat of the Central Valley Water Quality Control Board, one of the primary agencies involved in regional surface and groundwater issues, noted that his agencies had little information about aluminum levels in water. He said he was aware of the concerns being expressed by Shasta and Siskiyou County residents. “There’s a level of public concern around this and we are looking into it,” he said.
Concerns rebuffed

The concerns around aluminum were presented to the Mt. Shasta City Council this past summer as well as the Shasta County Board of Supervisors. In both cases, the governing bodies chose not to further investigate the issue, questioning the validity and scope of the tests, as well as their respective jurisdictions over the issue.
Speaking more generally about the issue, Beck noted, “They (the County Supervisors) did some research and decided that the chemtrail issue was a non-issue, and we left it at that.”
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*Dont fuck with me; ill jump on my menstrual cycle & run your ass over ;)
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The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
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political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
when a country is greatly disoriented —as it is currently in America with regards to polarization on many issues— that it’s easy for the Government —and other powers that be— to manipulate the public with lies and deceit. This is not a new strategy, but one that has been implemented in this country —as well as others— for centuries. It’s specifically designed to control the masses by generating and perpetuating confusion. in the past the truth about certain national incidents were not found out and revealed to the public for years. Now, thanks to the internet, it takes only a few months to discover the policies and activities of our Government and mega-corporate empires —that are criminal to say the least.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dear Progressives, Feelings aren't facts. Perception is not reality. We are not responsible for your inability to comprehend the difference.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Visit The Official GLP Store
[link to www.cafepress.com]

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FREEDOM OF SPEECH:
Alan Isaacman
The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be]

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Well isn't that special hmm
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Well isn't that special hmm
 Quoting: The Jurist


something to seriously think about - these test results aint pretty.
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*Dont fuck with me; ill jump on my menstrual cycle & run your ass over ;)
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The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
when a country is greatly disoriented —as it is currently in America with regards to polarization on many issues— that it’s easy for the Government —and other powers that be— to manipulate the public with lies and deceit. This is not a new strategy, but one that has been implemented in this country —as well as others— for centuries. It’s specifically designed to control the masses by generating and perpetuating confusion. in the past the truth about certain national incidents were not found out and revealed to the public for years. Now, thanks to the internet, it takes only a few months to discover the policies and activities of our Government and mega-corporate empires —that are criminal to say the least.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dear Progressives, Feelings aren't facts. Perception is not reality. We are not responsible for your inability to comprehend the difference.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Visit The Official GLP Store
[link to www.cafepress.com]

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FREEDOM OF SPEECH:
Alan Isaacman
The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be]

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Politician's have been playing dumb to Chemtrails for over a decade now. They need to fess up. They're breathing it in too. Unless they have some sort of prventive immunity to it?
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Gee.

It's not like anything else would get into the rainwater.

Must be chemtrailing.

Wouldn't be blown dust from mining or building sites.
Wouldn't be residues from roof tiles and gutters.
Wouldn't be pollution from chimneys.
Wouldn't be from people or dumps burning rubbish.
Wouldn't be ...

Nope, definitely chemtrails. This will obviously result in a court case.


And I better go and get the washing in.

Next, and just to be absolutely sure, I suggest you scrape all the stuff off the bottom of your shoes and have that tested. That is obviously stuff that you have stepped on after it fell from the sky, and is therefore chemtrail residue also.


There is no charge for all this advice.
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UP = shill. Collect your check and go back to work harassing other people please
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With all that aluminium no wonder there is so much Alzheimers showing up,earlier and earlier. I am surprised they didn't find barium but am glad that tests are being done. I hate to think what the results would be in Nebraska after last weeks spraying. It was terrible. So many of my patients have coughs that won't quit! 5a
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UP = shill. Collect your check and go back to work harassing other people please
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 635321

635321 is A carnicom representative, who wishes to see you more chemtrail videos.

You'll also note s/he is unable to address any of the points made.

Which reveals normal chemtrail-believer intelligence levels.
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UP = shill. Collect your check and go back to work harassing other people please

635321 is A carnicom representative, who wishes to see you more chemtrail videos.

You'll also note s/he is unable to address any of the points made.

Which reveals normal chemtrail-believer intelligence levels.
 Quoting: UP 635098


you need to suck on my vertical thong strap. theres alot of chemtrail believers on this board.

[link to www.nepawearechange.org]

and my post below
[link to www.nepawearechange.org]

just bc you choose to breathe in the garbage and accept it and its ailments doesnt mean we have to.

321 is right you are a

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The Queen Of Mean / VENOMmennonn

*Dont fuck with me; ill jump on my menstrual cycle & run your ass over ;)
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Every closed eye is not sleeping, and every open eye is not seeing
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
when a country is greatly disoriented —as it is currently in America with regards to polarization on many issues— that it’s easy for the Government —and other powers that be— to manipulate the public with lies and deceit. This is not a new strategy, but one that has been implemented in this country —as well as others— for centuries. It’s specifically designed to control the masses by generating and perpetuating confusion. in the past the truth about certain national incidents were not found out and revealed to the public for years. Now, thanks to the internet, it takes only a few months to discover the policies and activities of our Government and mega-corporate empires —that are criminal to say the least.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dear Progressives, Feelings aren't facts. Perception is not reality. We are not responsible for your inability to comprehend the difference.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Visit The Official GLP Store
[link to www.cafepress.com]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FREEDOM OF SPEECH:
Alan Isaacman
The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be]

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Gee.

It's not like anything else would get into the rainwater.

Must be chemtrailing.

Wouldn't be blown dust from mining or building sites.
Wouldn't be residues from roof tiles and gutters.
Wouldn't be pollution from chimneys.
Wouldn't be from people or dumps burning rubbish.
Wouldn't be ...

Nope, definitely chemtrails. This will obviously result in a court case.


And I better go and get the washing in.

Next, and just to be absolutely sure, I suggest you scrape all the stuff off the bottom of your shoes and have that tested. That is obviously stuff that you have stepped on after it fell from the sky, and is therefore chemtrail residue also.


There is no charge for all this advice.
 Quoting: UP 635098



You are right these chemicals could have gotten into our air and rain water in many different ways. That arguement leaves the room that it could also be from chemtrails. The fact that our rain water is becoming toxic should be alarming enough to want to look into every possiblity with an open mind.

Would you not agree that clean air, water and land is essential to our basic survival needs of breathing, drinking, and eating ?
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Looks like we need antioxidants more than ever. Blueberries...looking better than ever, maybe I'll pickup another bottle of silver solution.
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you need to suck on my vertical thong strap.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Wouldn't it be healthier for him to just breathe in the Chemtrails?
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im on an email group list "chemtrail tracking" at yahoo groups.

got this in tonites send. im alarmed that that this members independent lab tests on rain water showed traces of arsenic.(and aluminum/mercury - but no barium)

Reply-to: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: 3/14/2009 10:06:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: [Chem Trail Tracking USA] Oakland, CA Rainwater Test Results


Results from two rainwater tests conducted in Oakland, CA. I'm consulting with a few people for a better explanation of the results, but here they are. I'll upload the actual lab files later on. The vitals:

rainwater collection date 01/25/08:

Arsenic 1.411 ug/L
Cadmium 1.799 ug/L
Aluminum 686.3 ug/L
*Barium not detected

rainwater collection date: 01/21/09

Arsenic <.01 ug/L
Cadmium <.01 ug/L
Chromium <.01 ug/L
Lead <.01 ug/L
Mercury 150 ug/L
Aluminum 668 ug/L
*Barium not detected

 Quoting: Phennommennonn


But you have no way of proving the source is the internet myth fad of "chemtrails".

Why don't you people do the obvious thing and have an actual in situ sample taken from a suspected chemtrail?

What are you people afraid of?

Since you have SO MANY believers it should be no problem to pool the money needed to do this.
"Everybody lies."
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But you have no way of proving the source is the internet myth fad of "chemtrails".

Why don't you people do the obvious thing and have an actual in situ sample taken from a suspected chemtrail?

What are you people afraid of?

Since you have SO MANY believers it should be no problem to pool the money needed to do this.
 Quoting: G. House

My point is regardless of who, how or when, we have these elements in our air, rain, ground and food. EAT YOUR FUCKING BERRIES, damn it! :-)
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What are you people afraid of?
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Phennommennonn's vertical thong strap, for starters.
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What are you people afraid of?


Phennommennonn's vertical thong strap, for starters.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 574579

It would only sting for a second you know.
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What are you people afraid of?


Phennommennonn's vertical thong strap, for starters.

It would only sting for a second you know.
 Quoting: Winningjob


That's what my ex-wife said about the herpes she gave me.
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im on an email group list "chemtrail tracking" at yahoo groups.

got this in tonites send. im alarmed that that this members independent lab tests on rain water showed traces of arsenic.(and aluminum/mercury - but no barium)

Reply-to: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: 3/14/2009 10:06:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: [Chem Trail Tracking USA] Oakland, CA Rainwater Test Results


Results from two rainwater tests conducted in Oakland, CA. I'm consulting with a few people for a better explanation of the results, but here they are. I'll upload the actual lab files later on. The vitals:

rainwater collection date 01/25/08:

Arsenic 1.411 ug/L
Cadmium 1.799 ug/L
Aluminum 686.3 ug/L
*Barium not detected

rainwater collection date: 01/21/09

Arsenic <.01 ug/L
Cadmium <.01 ug/L
Chromium <.01 ug/L
Lead <.01 ug/L
Mercury 150 ug/L
Aluminum 668 ug/L
*Barium not detected



But you have no way of proving the source is the internet myth fad of "chemtrails".

Why don't you people do the obvious thing and have an actual in situ sample taken from a suspected chemtrail?

What are you people afraid of?

Since you have SO MANY believers it should be no problem to pool the money needed to do this.
 Quoting: G. House


and you NEVER have anything to back up your debunk while theres plenty of mainstream media news reports on video, plenty of independent data in regards to air quality, water samples, human ailments and pattern skies - to include dennis kucinich's speech that mentioned chemtrails in the first place thats out there.

take a sample from a chemtrail now thats intelligent why didnt we think of that? hey someone call superman maybe he will give us a ride on his cape. dumbass
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The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
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political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

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when a country is greatly disoriented —as it is currently in America with regards to polarization on many issues— that it’s easy for the Government —and other powers that be— to manipulate the public with lies and deceit. This is not a new strategy, but one that has been implemented in this country —as well as others— for centuries. It’s specifically designed to control the masses by generating and perpetuating confusion. in the past the truth about certain national incidents were not found out and revealed to the public for years. Now, thanks to the internet, it takes only a few months to discover the policies and activities of our Government and mega-corporate empires —that are criminal to say the least.

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FREEDOM OF SPEECH:
Alan Isaacman
The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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What are you people afraid of?


Phennommennonn's vertical thong strap, for starters.

It would only sting for a second you know.


That's what my ex-wife said about the herpes she gave me.
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Ahhh....love of a spouse..the gift that keeps on giving!
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There are no such things as chemtrails.

The only people who believe in them are the naive and gullible.

NO SMART PERSON really believes in them. The ones who say they do are liars, trying only to mislead you for their own agendas.
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Gee.

It's not like anything else would get into the rainwater.

Must be chemtrailing.

Wouldn't be blown dust from mining or building sites.
Wouldn't be residues from roof tiles and gutters.
Wouldn't be pollution from chimneys.
Wouldn't be from people or dumps burning rubbish.
Wouldn't be ...

Nope, definitely chemtrails. This will obviously result in a court case.


And I better go and get the washing in.

Next, and just to be absolutely sure, I suggest you scrape all the stuff off the bottom of your shoes and have that tested. That is obviously stuff that you have stepped on after it fell from the sky, and is therefore chemtrail residue also.


There is no charge for all this advice.
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CHEMTRAIL TARDS are like a CULT yawn

OH NO! DA PLANE! DA PLANE!

ahhh
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There are no such things as chemtrails.

The only people who believe in them are the naive and gullible.

NO SMART PERSON really believes in them. The ones who say they do are liars, trying only to mislead you for their own agendas.
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the reason so much metal in the chem trails there turning us into fucking antenas for the radio waves there gona throw out when blue beam starts we gona hear that shit in our heads
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take a sample from a chemtrail now thats intelligent why didnt we think of that? hey someone call superman maybe he will give us a ride on his cape. dumbass
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Yeah, you could never pool your money and charter a plane! Oh wait, that exactly what you could do. Instead you're happy passing up on the best piece of evidence you could possibly get. Evidence that could end the debate one way or the other for good. Maybe that's what you're afraid of.
Just when you think batshit crazy can't get any crazier Emily
goes and ups the ante.
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and you NEVER have anything to back up your debunk while theres plenty of mainstream media news reports on video, plenty of independent data in regards to air quality, water samples, human ailments and pattern skies - to include dennis kucinich's speech that mentioned chemtrails in the first place thats out there.

take a sample from a chemtrail now thats intelligent why didnt we think of that? hey someone call superman maybe he will give us a ride on his cape.
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You've supposedly got all these people that believe in chemtrails yet as a group you're too friggen cheap to pony up the $50,000 odd dollars it would take to end the frigge3n controversy once and for all.

The REAL reason you WON'T do it is people like Cliff Carnicom know full well the internet myth fad of chemtrails is a SHAM and are not about to kill their cash cow.

THAT'S FRIGGEN REALITY!

And as far as your assertion that I never have anything to back up my claims, that is a BALD FACED LIE!

Over the years I have posted a myriad of material on the truth about contrails, atmospheric science and aviation in general.

Only the gullible and ignorant perpetuate the internet myth fad of chemtrails.
"Everybody lies."
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Spray Tankers Tracked by Radar, Lab Tests Raise Concerns

By
William Thomas


Jan. 28, 2003

Last fall, a long-time landscaper working under contract for the City of Edmonton began noticing that carefully tended flowers and trees were showing signs of severe nutrient deficiencies.

City specifications call for electrical conductivity (EC) readings no higher than "1" in local soils. When soil samples showed damaging EC readings 4.6 to 7-times higher than this maximum permissible level, Dave Dickie suspected that elevated levels of electricity-conducting metals in the soils could be leading to the plants' "chlorosis" condition.

A life-long plane spotter, Dickie also wondered if there could be a connection to events unfolding on ATC radar scopes during his regular visits to the Edmonton municipal airport's Air Traffic Control center.

Last Father's Day, Dickie and an excited group of 12 year-olds watched two KC-135s, tagged "Petro 011" and "Petro 012", flying at 34,000 and 36,000 feet south and north of Edmonton.

According to the controllers watching the scopes, both U.S. Air Force KC-135 air-refueling tankers had flown south out of Alaska. But the big Boeings were not refueling other aircraft. Instead, as Dickie, the kids and the controllers watched, the four-engine jets began making patterns over Edmonton - "circuits" the controllers called it.

The Stratotankers were working alone in "commanded airspace" from which all other aircraft were excluded. And they were leaving chemtrails.


TELLTALE SIGNATURES

"The signature is significant" commented one radar operator, referring to trails clearly visible on his scope extending for miles behind the KC-135s. In contrast, a commercial JAL flight on the same display left no visible trail.

Going outside, Dickie and several controllers scanned clear blue skies over the northern Canadian city. Visibility was outstanding. They easily located a KC-135 leaving a lingering, broad white plume. They could also clearly see the JAL airliner at a similar flight level. It left no contrail at all.

On other occasions, Dickie has watched KC-135s on Edmonton radar leaving lingering trails as low as 18,000 feet.

"We see these guys up here a lot," radar techs told Dickie, explaining that the USAF tanker flights originate in Alaska and continue on into the States - after gridding the Edmonton area with emanations clearly visible on radar.

"You should have seen it when they had the big summit up in Calgary," the Canadian controllers exclaimed. "It was exciting to watch them." The G7 maneuvers suggested that barium might have been sprayed to enhance radio and radar surveillance over what protesters condemned as a "globalization" conference aimed at worldwide corporate domination.

That was speculation. But back in Edmonton, there was no doubt that particulates were being sprayed by the tankers. Pointing to "birdie feet" on their scopes, the radar technicians showed Dickie particles appearing "as concentrations of dots" in the radar-tracked plumes.

Zooming in and out on each plane with the click of cursor, Dickie said that he and the controllers "could see different contrails." Some were short, and quickly vanished from the scopes. Other trails were thick, long and lingering - not acting like contrails at all.

Especially exciting for Dickie and the kids was watching head-on passes between KC-135s and commercial airliners. Flying directly at each other with a closing rate of nearly 1,000 mph, the huge jets appeared about to collide. But the unconcerned controllers explained to Dickie that the aircraft must adhere to a minimum 1,000 foot vertical separation rule - recently reduced from twice that safety margin. No one explained what might happen, if the "top" plane suffered a sudden decompression and was forced to dive to lower altitude.


BARIUM AND ALUMINUM CONFIRMED

Assuming that unusual metal content in the soil could be causing the high electrical conductivity readings, Dickie collected samples of a fresh snowfall for the city, and took them to Edmonton's NorWest Labs for analysis.

This reporter has obtained copies of lab tests conducted on snow samples collected by the city of Edmonton, Alberta between Nov. 8 - 12, 2002. The tests show unaccountably elevated levels of aluminum and barium. Norwest Labs lab report #336566, dated Nov. 14 2002 found:

* aluminum levels: 0.148 milligrams/litre

* barium levels: 0.006 milligrams/litre

Acting like the electrolyte in a car battery, barium chemtrails developed at Ohio's Wright Patterson Air Force Base are routinely sprayed into the atmosphere to "duct" or bend military radio and radar waves over-the-horizon, instead of continuing straight beyond the Earth's curvature into space. "Wright Pat" is also closely connected to HAARP Experiments employing tightly focused, extremely high-energy radio frequency beams to alter the weather, disrupt communications and "X-ray" bunkers deep underground thousands of miles away the transmitter array in Gakon, Alaska.

Aluminum stunts plant growth by sucking nutrients from the soil.

Dave Dickie told me, "Our most recent snowfall was tested for aluminum and barium and we were not surprised with the results. You've said it all along and this just substantiates some of your claims."

But the soil expert cautioned that because the chemistry of unrefined aluminum oxide often found in the environment depends on soil acidity and the presence of other minerals, it is difficult to estimate "natural" background concentrations. Even so, NorWest Lab techs told Dickie that the elevated levels of aluminum and barium they were finding are not usually found in Alberta precipitation.

Concerned city officials ordered more tests made on precipitation falling within a 40 mile radius of Edmonton. A second series of lab tests has now confirmed high levels of barium and aluminum in snow Dickie thinks fell through chemtrails. So far, he says, there is no other explanation for the high-levels of each chemical compound in city soils.

Dickie says it's so simple to test for aluminum and barium, labs typically charge $10 to $15 for this analysis. He is adding quartz to the list of possible fallout components after tiny quartz particles dominated lab tests of rain falling through heavy chemtrails over Espanola, Ontario in the summer of 1999. Levels of aluminum analyzed in the Ontario samples were up to seven-times higher than provincial permissible safety limits.
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all that metal in the rain water eh turning us into fucking antenas for the radio waves when blue beem starts
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U.S. CONTROLLERS CONCERNED OVER CHEMTRAILS

South of the border, U.S. Air Traffic Controllers were also concerned over tanker-spread emissions. Just after Christmas 2001, the Air Traffic Control manager for the northeastern seaboard became increasingly concerned that his young son's illness - and episodes of Sudden Onset Acute Asthma suffered by his formerly allergy-free wife - could be linked with the increased aerial activity he was seeing on his scopes.

On March 12, 2001, this source - who came to be called "Deep Sky" by this reporter and ABC-affiliated radio reporter S.T. Brendt - told Brendt that he and other controllers were being told to re-route commercial air traffic beneath formations of air force tankers. Insisting that flight safety was not affected, he admitted during a follow-up interview at WMWV radio station that the KC-135s were spraying something that reflected radar pulses as a "haze" that degraded ATC radars.

Brendt contacted the FAA official after counting more than 30 big jets within 45 minutes spreading persistent plumes over rural Maine. Also alerted by Brendt, assistant WMWV news director Richard Dean and his staff counted 370 chemical trails criss-crossing his nearby location. But Deep Sky told Brendt that of the nine commercial jets on his radars at the time, only one or two would have been visible from her location.

Speaking on condition of strict anonymity, the ATC manager later expressed concern over the classified operations conducted by much larger military formations of KC-135 tankers between 37,000 and 40,000 feet.

Many video-documented plume patterns grid skies away from charted airline routes on days when high altitude temperatures and humidity do not permit normal contrail formation. Studies by Ralph Steadham of FAA - identified traffic over Houston found that while commercial condensation trails comprising momentarily flash-frozen water vapor typically disappear within 22 seconds or less, much broader, sunlight-reflecting jet trails left by military jets flying at the same time in the same airspace often lingered for four to eight hours.