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March 15, 2009

Muslims in America simply want to become good Americans. They just want picnics, beer bellies, and mortgages they can’t afford, like the rest of us. At least that’s what the media tells us.

Luckily, not-so-peaceful jihadists can’t keep their mouths shut. Stick a camera in front of one of these guys and he feels compelled to blab the truth. Apparently, a camera to jihadist is like sodium pentothal to a liar.

The attached video is from a Chicago-based TV show called Underground Railroad. They guest, Dr. Amir Ali, seems rather happy (eager, in fact) to announce that Islam and sharia law are coming to the good ol’ USA and that we’re destined to become an Islamic country.

Here’s another quote from Dr. Ali from the MarkedManner.com blog: “When Hitler reluctantly started to implement his ‘final solution’ in dealing with German Jews…whatever else he was, he was no dummy! What did he know about which we are as yet blissfully unaware?”

In the words of Joe Biden, “Gimme a f$#&kin’ break.”

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According to the Alan Peters Roundup, Amir Ali is/was not just another random Muslim. He is well connected to familiar Muslim Brotherhood outlets including ISNA and WAMY:

Dr. M. Amir Ali, the founder of the Institute of Islamic Information and Education (IIIE) in Chicago, of which Dr. Siddiqi was elected Chairman in 2002, states in an article on his website: “When Hitler reluctantly started to implement his “final solution” in dealing with German Jews…whatever else he was, he was no dummy! What did he know – about which we are as yet blissfully unaware?”

Both ISNA and its key leaders have had a long-standing relationship with Dr. M. Amir Ali, the founder and former President of the board of directors of the Institute of Islamic Information & Education in Chicago (IIIE).pp An article written by Mr. Ali states that Ahmed Zaki Hammad, a past President of ISNA, helped him move to Saudi Arabia to manage a hospital supply business there.”

According to Mr. Ali, he founded IEEE in 1985 or 1986 after returning from Saudi Arabia and as a result of his thought about “about the problem of hate against Islam in the West”. 354 355 Early members of the board included:
• Maneh Hammad Al-Johani Secretary General of WAMY
• Muzzamil Siddiqi ISNA past President
• Jamal Badawi ISNA board
• Imam Siraj Wahhaj ISNA board

Mr. Ali has stated that Dr. Siddiqi was elected as the new IIIE Chairman in September 2002 and that ISNA President Mohammad Nur Abdullah and ISNA Vice-President Ingrid Mattson have been hosted as speakers by IIIE.356 357 Along with ISNA, the MWL Canada website lists IIIE as one of only a handful of U.S Islamic organizations designated as its “International Connections.” 358 IIIE is currently registered as a tax-exempt public charity in Chicago.qq Mr. Ali’s family has described the work of IEEE as follows:

“To date, the III&E has distributed over 7 million brochures about various aspects of Islam; has donated hundreds of books to libraries; witnessed the conversion of thousands of people to Islam; educated millions of people either in person or though its literature. A weekly television program about Islam was developed and aired for 3 months in 1993. Several national da’wah conferences were held to discuss the current state of da’wah in North America. In 1996, Amir and his wife went to Nigeria to attend a da’wah training course that was developed there. He brought the knowledge gained from this course back to Chicago, developed it further, and introduced the Da’wah Intensive Course, a 90 hour training course for Muslims to give them a thorough grounding in Islamic knowledge through Quran and Hadith, how to conduct da’wah, how to answer commonly asked questions about Islam, information on the basic concepts in Christianity and Judaism; all to train others to continue da’wah work wherever they may be.

In 1997, the III&E moved its automatic phone-based information service to the Internet with its website at iiie.net. Amir started the Muslim International email newsletter, whose subscribers number in the thousands, to circulate articles he wrote and the articles of others. He opened a personal website, ilaam.net, in 2002 to publish his own political commentary and the commentary of others that he endorsed.”

There is also evidence that IIIE has been active in corresponding and distributing literature to U.S. prison inmates, describing its work as an opportunity for Dawahrr. According to an article by Mr. Ali posted on the ISNA website, this activity began shortly after the inception of IIIE and grew to “an average of 2000 letters a year” over a five year period.” 360 The webpage goes on to describe IIIE’s relationship with WAMY, ISNA, and other Islamic organizations associated with ISNA:

“From the beginning the Institute has adopted the policy of cooperation with other sister Islamic organizations and da’wah workers. Time to time some Islamic organizations have asked for the help of the III&E in handling correspondence with the prisoners. World Assembly of Muslim Youth, WAMY, headquartered in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, receives many letters from the U.S. WAMY used to refer all their letters from prisons to the III&E which were responded. All letters received by the III&E from Africa, Asia, Europe and South America are sent to WAMY because she has the resources to handle such letters. The Institute has handled letters referred to her by Muslim Community Center, Chicago (MCC), American Islamic College, Chicago, Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) but these organizations no longer refer their letters to the Institute. For the last one year Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) began sending some of the letters she receives to the Institute for responding. The Institute response to all referred letters begins with an introductory sentence to let the inquirer know that it was the response to their letter sent to so and so organization.”

The article also describes IIIE’s efforts to personally visit in prison and, in at least two cases, provide employment for prisoners after their release.

Until his recent death, Mr. Ali maintained a website that contains numerous articles that he has written. These articles are filled with extremely virulent expressions of anti-Semitism that include the following statements.

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COULD HE BE REFERRING TO BARACK HUSSIEN OBAMA?


Muslim Leader Says America Will Become A Muslim Country
March 12, 2009

We keep getting comments that Muslims in America simply want to assimilate and they don’t want anything to do with sharia. Also, that we can’t classify all Muslims as this or that. For that very reason, we single out very specific groups and activities that we believe promote sharia in the U.S. (primarily). No commenter has yet clarified how we can distinguish between the peaceful, non-sharia wanting folks and the non-peaceful, sharia (and jihad) wanting folks.

The easiest way is when a Muslim goes on television and declares that Islam, and sharia, is coming to America. That America is destined to become an Islamic country. If America can’t be changed from the ground up, then it will be changed from the top. This Muslim leader is from Chicago. Could be referring to Barack Hussein Obama? From the MarkedManner blog:


[link to www.markedmanner.com]
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Muslims in the Greater Chicago Area

A profile of Muslims in and around Chicago

by M. Amir Ali, Ph.D.

In 1996 the Greater Chicago area has over eighty Islamic organizations and most of them attached to an Islamic center or a mosque. The estimated population of Muslims in Cook and the collar counties is 350,000, almost 5% of the total population of the region. The Muslims have surpassed the population of Jews and many other ethnic groups.

The nationalities of Muslims, wherever they have come from, includes Indo-Pak-Bangladesh subcontinent, Arabic speaking countries including the Middle East and North Africa, the East European countries of Albania, Bosnia and surrounding states, Turkey, Iran, Malaysia, Indonesia, Afghanistan and sub-Saharan Africa. In addition to white and Hispanic American Muslims, Chicago has the largest concentration of African-American Muslims in the U.S. It is a diverse community speaking a variety of languages, representing a variety of complexions and races, yet they are one community. The sense that all Muslims are one community is embedded in the Qur'anic teachings which makes all Muslims one ethnic group, irrespective of their geographical origin, race and color.

The Muslim population of Greater Chicago is well educated and economically prosperous. A survey done a few years ago showed that the Indo-Pakistani Muslims, in particular, had perhaps the highest education level in the U.S. It was found that this community consisted of 16% medical doctors and 33% engineers, and overall 44% had doctorate degrees, 84% had at least bachelors degrees and only 2% had less than a high school education. The average income of the Indo-Pakistani community was more than twice the average income level of the U.S. population.

The contribution of the Muslim professionals is beyond their proportion in number. Two of the skyscrapers of Chicago, the John Hancock Center and the Sears Tower, were designed by a Muslim architect, Dr. Fazlur Rahman. There is hardly a hospital without a Muslim doctor on its staff. There is hardly an engineering or electronic equipment manufacturer without Muslim engineers. Muslims are involved in the design, production and distribution of all American products and services. There are many Muslim teachers in Chicago public schools and professors in the universities. Chicago would have an extreme shortage of taxis if the Muslims pull out of taxi driving. There are many engineers, even rare medical doctors who are driving taxis either because they are preparing for board examinations or they enjoy freedom and self-employment.

Muslims also have political muscle which was demonstrated when Harold Washington won as a Mayor of Chicago with the slim majority provided by the Muslim vote. Since the early eighties the Muslim population has increased and they are becoming registered voters in increasing proportion. Only thirty years ago the Chicago Muslim population was very small with only one Islamic center which had a small congregation.

In social life, Muslims have almost no alcohol problems and drug use is rare among the Muslim young. There is rare dating because most marriages are still arranged by elders of the family. There is rarely a problem of adultery or homosexuality and there are no children out of wedlock. In general, Muslim youth are good students in their schools and motivated to excel. The divorce rate is relatively low and single parents are few. It is prohibited to show bare bodies, even bare legs, or tight clothing which makes exhibitionism an un-Islamic trait. Muslim men and women dress fully and modestly. Crime of any kind by the Muslims is a rare occurrence. In fact, Islam is playing a great role in the American prison system in reforming the prisoners. The reversion to crime of those prisoners who accept Islam during their incarceration is much lower than those who do not and a majority becomes productive citizens when becoming free.

Muslims are very tolerant people. It is in their grain to let other people know about Islam but not to go too far to make a person feel coerced or pressured to convert to Islam. The proof is in the history. Muslims ruled Spain for almost eight centuries yet they remained a minority and paid its price. Muslim ruled India for almost nine centuries yet remained a minority. Jerusalem was destroyed by Titus, a Byzantine general, who issued a decree forever forbidding Jews from entering the city. When the Muslims entered Jerusalem, victoriously without any battle or bloodshed, they allowed Jews and all other people to enter and live happily. Ever since Jerusalem has remained a city open to the people of all religions and races until the State of Israel was established on Muslim-Palestinian land. Christian churches, Jewish synagogues or Hindu temples were never taken by force to convert them to mosques except under proper arrangements and at an agreed upon price with the owners or responsible caretakers. Muslims have always lived with minorities or majorities of other religions except, occasionally, when rotten apples among Muslims were in power for short periods of time. It is obvious that many Christian churches, Jewish synagogues, Hindu temples and places of worship of other religions are in existence all over the Muslim lands from the ancient times. In fact, whenever Jews were slaughtered in European countries they found a safe refuge in the Muslim lands of North Africa, Turkey and East Europe. In North America and Europe Muslims have no friction with Jews or Christians. Even now, Christians and Jews are living happily together in all Muslim lands except the lands under the control of Israel. Who should be blamed for troubles in lands under the control of Israel? Why should weaker people risk their lives when they are living happily as in Skokie, Illinois? Muslims have been peaceful people throughout the history.

It is worthwhile to look closely at the Muslim community of America because it has a potential of becoming a model community for all Americans.

October 29, 1996

[link to www.iiie.net]
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bsflag

Just because a few fundies want something to happen does not make it the goal of everyone in that religion, and certainly doesn't infer that it is ever likely to happen.

What actually happens is, as people live in westernised society, they become much more moderate in their beliefs and enjoy the facets of western life. Subsequently, many 2nd and 3rd generations of their families feel little need to follow the parents / grand parents religions at all.

Religion will eventually become a thing of the past as more and more people realise what a control mechanism religion is. Personal spiritually will replace it for those who want a relationship with Creator.
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bsflag

Just because a few fundies want something to happen does not make it the goal of everyone in that religion, and certainly doesn't infer that it is ever likely to happen.

What actually happens is, as people live in westernised society, they become much more moderate in their beliefs and enjoy the facets of western life. Subsequently, many 2nd and 3rd generations of their families feel little need to follow the parents / grand parents religions at all.

Religion will eventually become a thing of the past as more and more people realise what a control mechanism religion is. Personal spiritually will replace it for those who want a relationship with Creator.
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+1
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bsflag

Just because a few fundies want something to happen does not make it the goal of everyone in that religion, and certainly doesn't infer that it is ever likely to happen.

What actually happens is, as people live in westernised society, they become much more moderate in their beliefs and enjoy the facets of western life. Subsequently, many 2nd and 3rd generations of their families feel little need to follow the parents / grand parents religions at all.

Religion will eventually become a thing of the past as more and more people realise what a control mechanism religion is. Personal spiritually will replace it for those who want a relationship with Creator.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 186361

Yeah tell that to the UK
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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ahhh

OMG...they will convert us all...
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:bsflag

Just because a few fundies want something to happen does not make it the goal of everyone in that religion, and certainly doesn't infer that it is ever likely to happen.

What actually happens is, as people live in westernised society, they become much more moderate in their beliefs and enjoy the facets of western life. Subsequently, many 2nd and 3rd generations of their families feel little need to follow the parents / grand parents religions at all.

Religion will eventually become a thing of the past as more and more people realise what a control mechanism religion is. Personal spiritually will replace it for those who want a relationship with Creator.

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Yeah tell that to the UK
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Well said, Mathetes.
Look at the UK today, and -- if we don't stem the tide -- that will be the US tomorrow.

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Cayce: “… The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. …. then we may know it has begun …”. www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce11.html
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The planetary goal of Islam:

One planet under allah.


That is what Muslims want, in no uncertain terms.

(Not arguable either. Goal is plainly stated.)
For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust. Psa 103:14

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Yeah tell that to the UK
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I am in the UK, and speak from personal experience, not from the hysterical media propaganda you obviously read Mathetes.
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The planetary goal of Islam:

One planet under allah.


That is what Muslims want, in no uncertain terms.

(Not arguable either. Goal is plainly stated.)
 Quoting: We Are Dust


They deserve control of the planet.

Let's give them Venus, where the atmosphere is 900 degrees fahrenheit, and made up of sulfuric acid.
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Well said, Mathetes.
Look at the UK today, and -- if we don't stem the tide -- that will be the US tomorrow.

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 Quoting: Aquarius 7


Lmfao, another yank who believes everything they are told from the MSM. Keep sucking on that propaganda teet, soon they'll be saying you need to take the chip so they can protect you, and you'll swallow it up like good little sheep.

Rule #1, know your enemy.
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bsflag

Just because a few fundies want something to happen does not make it the goal of everyone in that religion, and certainly doesn't infer that it is ever likely to happen.

What actually happens is, as people live in westernised society, they become much more moderate in their beliefs and enjoy the facets of western life. Subsequently, many 2nd and 3rd generations of their families feel little need to follow the parents / grand parents religions at all.

Religion will eventually become a thing of the past as more and more people realise what a control mechanism religion is. Personal spiritually will replace it for those who want a relationship with Creator.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 186361

Christian Minister Beaten After Clashing With Muslims on TV

Monday, March 16, 2009

A Christian minister in London who has clashed with Muslims on his television show says he was brutally attacked by three men who warned him, "if you go back to the studio, we’ll break your legs," the Daily Mail reported on Sunday.
[link to www.foxnews.com]

WE SHOULD SEND THIS RELIGIOUS GARBAGE BACK TO THEIR MOSLEM COUNTRIES.

PREFERABLY ALL OF THEM!
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Muslims are very tolerant people. It is in their grain to let other people know about Islam but not to go too far to make a person feel coerced or pressured to convert to Islam. The proof is in the history. Muslims ruled Spain for almost eight centuries yet they remained a minority and paid its price. Muslim ruled India for almost nine centuries yet remained a minority. Jerusalem was destroyed by Titus, a Byzantine general, who issued a decree forever forbidding Jews from entering the city. When the Muslims entered Jerusalem, victoriously without any battle or bloodshed, they allowed Jews and all other people to enter and live happily. Ever since Jerusalem has remained a city open to the people of all religions and races until the State of Israel was established on Muslim-Palestinian land. Christian churches, Jewish synagogues or Hindu temples were never taken by force to convert them to mosques except under proper arrangements and at an agreed upon price with the owners or responsible caretakers. Muslims have always lived with minorities or majorities of other religions except, occasionally, when rotten apples among Muslims were in power for short periods of time. It is obvious that many Christian churches, Jewish synagogues, Hindu temples and places of worship of other religions are in existence all over the Muslim lands from the ancient times. In fact, whenever Jews were slaughtered in European countries they found a safe refuge in the Muslim lands of Nor


Um..... where to begin?


This might be the sort of whitewashed rubbish you tell each other in your mosques .......but it is nowhere near the truth of what happened - do yourself a favour and read some history written by independent historians - mulim history has been one long story of conquest war bloodshed tyranny genocide intolerance and backwardness. The reason this is not better known is that in true muslim fashion any academic or publisher that prints the truth will recieve death threats!
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Muslim leader tells true intentions: America will become a Muslim country
[link to www.ihatethemedia.com]

March 15, 2009

Muslims in America simply want to become good Americans. They just want picnics, beer bellies, and mortgages they can’t afford, like the rest of us. At least that’s what the media tells us.

Luckily, not-so-peaceful jihadists can’t keep their mouths shut. Stick a camera in front of one of these guys and he feels compelled to blab the truth. Apparently, a camera to jihadist is like sodium pentothal to a liar.

The attached video is from a Chicago-based TV show called Underground Railroad. They guest, Dr. Amir Ali, seems rather happy (eager, in fact) to announce that Islam and sharia law are coming to the good ol’ USA and that we’re destined to become an Islamic country.

Here’s another quote from Dr. Ali from the MarkedManner.com blog: “When Hitler reluctantly started to implement his ‘final solution’ in dealing with German Jews…whatever else he was, he was no dummy! What did he know about which we are as yet blissfully unaware?”

In the words of Joe Biden, “Gimme a f$#&kin’ break.”

(one of the comments left by another reader...)



Stage 1:
Start immigrating - move into a country quietly

Stage 2:
Begin starting churches: “learning centers”
community helps: food etc.

Stage 3:
Political activism: demanding rights, denounce
derogatory comments/press etc.

Stage 4:
Get elected, pass laws favoring rights etc. move toward
political majority

Stage 5:
Political control, Sharia Law
 Quoting: Krysalis

this stage 1 thru 5 strategy was used by HUD to place minorities into well established low crime nighborhoods, for the future purpose of overtating over time the intire zone and it worked .... HUDS saturation of usual suspects created coulture clashing citizens, wgich did resulted in ongoing white flight .. ..since heavy handed crime tactic were used against the law abiding White folks, then they, the Whites of course began thier white flight to other peaceful areas, of course those areas werre continously more expensive, so whites continue to lose financial ground, just to find peaceful low crime areas, to raise thier family in....mexicans have used this strategy also to gain new established territories ..of course the muslims would use it too. ..
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The moment it does, I'll be leaving.
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most important
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y another reader...)



Stage 1:
Start immigrating - move into a country quietly

Stage 2:
Begin starting churches: “learning centers”
community helps: food etc.

Stage 3:
Political activism: demanding rights, denounce
derogatory comments/press etc.

Stage 4:
Get elected, pass laws favoring rights etc. move toward
political majority

Stage 5:
Political control, Sharia Law
 Quoting: Krysalis



errr, mmm,

i thought you were talking about aipac .....


didn't congress acknowledge noahide law, not sharia law


The U.S. Congress officially recognized the Noahide Laws in legislation which was passed by both houses. Congress and the President of the United States, George Bush, indicated in Public Law 102-14, 102nd Congress


Stage 1:
Start immigrating - move into a country quietly

Stage 2:
Begin starting churches: “learning centers”
community helps: food etc.

Stage 3:
Political activism: demanding rights, denounce
derogatory comments/press etc.

Stage 4:
Get elected, pass laws favoring rights etc. move toward
political majority

Stage 5:
Political control, Sharia Law





GLP