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How bout these puppies? (gun thread)

 
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How bout these puppies? (gun thread)
Is the USA the only major nation unwilling to provide it's warriors with the best available?
Even us civilians can step into the 21st century:
How bout them puppies!

This is a bullpup stock kit "Kushnapup" made exclusively to fit your saiga 12 gauge shotgun!
[link to www.kushnapup.com]
Now you can take your ordinary saiga-12 and customize it yourself with no permanent alterations to your firearm!! This kit includes a simple external step by step instruction manual.
[link to i130.photobucket.com]
[link to vimeo.com]

K-Var bullpup kit
[link to www.ak-47.us]
Reviews vary.
Seems to depend on whether the installer takes time to do it right or not.

SKS bullpup
[link to www.rifletech.com]

Ruger 10/22 bullpup
[link to www.ironwooddesigns.com]
[link to www.e-gunparts.com]


All of the above plus
[link to www.bullpupgunstocks.com]
M1A/ M-14/BM-59
Marlin #60 & #70
Ruger Mini-14

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Re: How bout these puppies? (gun thread)
Existing military bullpups:
The one that started it all:
[link to world.guns.ru]
Australia
[link to world.guns.ru]
Austria
[link to world.guns.ru]
Belgium
[link to world.guns.ru]
Brazil
[link to world.guns.ru]
Communist China
[link to world.guns.ru]
Finland
[link to world.guns.ru]
France
[link to world.guns.ru]
Great Britain
[link to world.guns.ru]
Iran
[link to world.guns.ru]
Israel
[link to world.guns.ru]
Italy
[link to world.guns.ru]
USA
no link cause US troops use 20th century tech
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Re: How bout these puppies? (gun thread)
so, I should edit these posts out and give up?

OK
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03/19/2009 08:49 PM
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Re: How bout these puppies? (gun thread)
Look I love the saiga.. and Im sure others here do as well. There is though one simple issue.. you cant get fucking mags for that thing. 5rders that all.. SO unless you want to make your own mags this shotgun is not all the video show it to be.


For the record I seriously thought about purchasing one of these is 20ga in fact..

Good luck. OH and for those that have technical skills.. If you really want to make some money. Make drums for these saiga shotguns and youll be rich. SERIOUSLY
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Re: How bout these puppies? (gun thread)
so, I should edit these posts out and give up?

OK
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Nah, there is just a lot of content,


I agree, this one needs serious work..done still.
K-Var bullpup kit
[link to www.ak-47.us]
Reviews vary.
Seems to depend on whether the installer takes time to do it right or not.
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Bullpup designs make me nervous. I really don't like having the receiver right next to my head. A 10/22 is one thing, but a .308 going off 3 inches from my brainpan?? I'll pass.
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Bullpup designs make me nervous. I really don't like having the receiver right next to my head. A 10/22 is one thing, but a .308 going off 3 inches from my brainpan?? I'll pass.
 Quoting: Evil Twin



i was thinking the same exact thing.. and in that one design, you take that recoil wrong its a wrist, finger breaker.
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Bullpup designs make me nervous. I really don't like having the receiver right next to my head. A 10/22 is one thing, but a .308 going off 3 inches from my brainpan?? I'll pass.



i was thinking the same exact thing.. and in that one design, you take that recoil wrong its a wrist, finger breaker.
 Quoting: Kanigo2


And thats just from trying to avoid the ,POP.

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I never trusted a gun firing in front of my face either, but after tens of thousands of rounds, in many dozens of guns, nothing blew up yet.
& I have loaded some blue pill hot loads that have caused guns to fail.

Bullpups give the 'easy to handle in close quarters' length of a sawed off shotgun, with a full length barrel.


As for the Saiga magazine problem.
I bought larger capacity magazines for my .410 Saiga.

The .444 & .45 long colt conversions require custom magazines.
[link to i98.photobucket.com]
People at the Saiga-12 forum post pics of their custom work and discuss modifying 30 & 40 round AKM mags for their Saigas.
A drum mag

[link to www.gunaccessories.com]

SAIGA .410 15 Round Factory Mag

BTW Saiga is the cheapest 7.62 NATO carbine available

SAIGA 308 25 Round USA Made

SAIGA 12GA 10 Round Synthetic Mag ProMag
SAIGA 12GA 12 Round Synthetic Mag Surefire Mfg
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edit to add:
Tromix
[link to www.tromix.com]
Video links on page

>Our flagship product line is the insatiable Micro-12 gauge sporting an 8” barrel, HK battle sights, and a Tromix shark brake door breacher. Our Micro shotguns will cycle low base target shells as well as the stoutest 3” magnums. Feeding from a 10 round box magazine,..
With the advent of the detachable box fed Tromix Micro-12 gauge, you have an UZI size weapon, with the reliability of an AK-47, packing the knockdown power of a 12 gauge while still maintaining a full 10 round capacity <

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I never trusted a gun firing in front of my face either, but after tens of thousands of rounds, in many dozens of guns, nothing blew up yet.
& I have loaded some blue pill hot loads that have caused guns to fail.

Bullpups give the 'easy to handle in close quarters' length of a sawed off shotgun, with a full length barrel.


 Quoting: himself

No argument there! In today's attorney rich environment, they wouldn't sell them if they weren't safe.

Close quarters handling can't be beat.

You do give up trigger feel in most cases.

I wouldn't buy one, but tons of other, smarter people do.
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Re: How bout these puppies? (gun thread)
Saiga 12 shotgun with 20-round drum magazine
pointlessly ruining a nice car:



[link to www.mdarms.com]
MD-20, a 20rd drum magazine for the Saiga-12 shotgun

[link to www.alliancearmament.com]
The 20rd. Wraithmaker drum magazine is designed for the Saiga 12

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Re: How bout these puppies? (gun thread)
The RFB (Rifle, Forward-ejection, Bullpup) is a gas-operated semi-automatic rifle with a tilting breechblock locking mechanism, manufactured by Kel-Tec Industries of Florida.
Available since March in 7.62x51mm NATO (.308 Winchester)
Uses FAL detachable box magazines

[link to upload.wikimedia.org]

Kel-Tec is preparing smaller versions of the same design, adapted to 'intermediate' calibers such as 7.62x39, 5.56x45mm NATO (.223), 6.5 Grendel and 6.8mm Remington SPC

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
>Bullpup is a firearm configuration in which the action and magazine are located behind the trigger. This increases the barrel length relative to the overall weapon length, permitting shorter weapons for the same barrel length, saving weight and increasing maneuverability. It alternatively allows for longer barrels on weapons of the same length, which can increase muzzle velocity. Higher muzzle velocities result in flatter trajectories, a longer effective range, and, in some cases, increased lethality.<

YouTube - RFB CARBINE 308 bullpup rifle from kel-tec
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Re: How bout these puppies? (gun thread)
Now you can take your ordinary saiga-12 and customize it yourself with no permanent alterations to your firearm!! This kit includes a simple external step by step instruction manual.
[link to i130.photobucket.com]
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Probably going to go deaf with a 12 gauge firing right next to your ear like that.
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Bullpup designs make me nervous. I really don't like having the receiver right next to my head. A 10/22 is one thing, but a .308 going off 3 inches from my brainpan?? I'll pass.
 Quoting: Evil Twin


The bullpup design makes it tough for left handed shooting. I'll take the M4 over any of those guns listed.
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Bullpup designs make me nervous. I really don't like having the receiver right next to my head. A 10/22 is one thing, but a .308 going off 3 inches from my brainpan?? I'll pass.


The bullpup design makes it tough for left handed shooting. I'll take the M4 over any of those guns listed.
 Quoting: Missouri Bushwhacker

Right side ejection makes it tough for left-handed shooting.

The RFB (Rifle, Forward-ejection, Bullpup)

ejects forward, up near the muzzle, not to the right.

{edit spelling and syntax & to add:
AC 648703,
Everybody firing any gun should use ear plugs!}

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Bullpup designs make me nervous. I really don't like having the receiver right next to my head. A 10/22 is one thing, but a .308 going off 3 inches from my brainpan?? I'll pass.


The bullpup design makes it tough for left handed shooting. I'll take the M4 over any of those guns listed.

Right side ejection makes it tough for left-handed shooting.

The RFB (Rifle, Forward-ejection, Bullpup)

ejects forward, not to the right.
 Quoting: himself


I see that now, kel tec has one I think.
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picture link:
[link to world.guns.ru]

XM-29 OICW Description.
The XM-29 is a combination weapon, which has the 20mm semi-automatic, magazine fed grenade launcher as its primary part, and the 5.56mm compact assault rifle as its secondary part. Both parts are assembled into the single one-man portable unit, with the addition of the target acquisition / fire control system (TA/FCS), which is an essential part of the whole system. The XM-29 will become an integral part of the future Land Warrior system, capable of communicating with the other parts of this system, including the tactical computers and helmet-mounted displays.

The grenade launcher is capable to fire in semi-automatic mode only, and is gas operated. It has a bullpup layout with the detachable box magazine located in the butt of the weapon. The rifled barrel is used to launch the 20mm grenades up to the 1000 meters range with good accuracy. In the standard configuration most of the fire controls for the grenade launcher part are located on the rifle part, including the single trigger for both firing modules. It is quite possible, however, that the separate stock will be developed for the grenade launcher part, so it will be possible to use it without the rifle part attached. The launcher has the provisions for the TA/FCS system to be mounted on its top, and the appropriate interfaces, so the data provided from the TA/FCS can be used to program the 20mm grenade fuses. These fuses, used for the 20mm HEAB ammunition, has multiple mode of detonation, including the direct impact mode and the Air Burst mode. In the latter mode the fuse is pre-programmed to explode the warhead at the preset range, which is calculated during the flight by counting the number of the grenade rotations. This allows do defeat targets without the direct impact, using the blast and fragmentation effect of the high explosive warhead. This is a major advantage over the present small arms, which in most cases require the direct hit on the target to be effective, as it allows for greater aiming errors, and also makes possible to defeat targets in defilade, like the trenches and so. The high explosive warhead also has the advantage of not being dependent on its velocity to be effective, so unlike with the bullets, its effectiveness does not decreased with the increase of range.
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Re: How bout these puppies? (gun thread)
Bump for gun loving newbies

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Re: How bout these puppies? (gun thread)
Bull pups are junk, I have this thing with live rounds going off next too my head.





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