How does child support = slavery?

How is this your responsibility since the mother isn`t married to you - therefore she doesn`t really want you to take care of the child?

I don't think I'm alone, but in my case I had 50/50 custody and still had to pay $165/week to her...They called it spouce maintenance even though I gave her enough to live on and even to get through school. She called it child support even though I had to pay the same amount on the weeks I had my boys.
So I went for full custody and now she doesn't get shit.

We were married and just wanted out because she got into school and wanted to pretend she was 19 again.

BINGO!

And if the woman remarries or finds another suitor, shouldn't it then be incumbent upon him to take on a fatherly role?

And I'll tell you why it is slavery. If a man (the hunter gatherer) hunts for food and gathers his own clothing in order to provide for the child, he is still in breach of the child support requirements. It is not about caring for the child. It is about forcing the father to be a working class slave.

Who says the mother wasn't married to the father? What if they weren't married, but both adults made a joint decision to have a child?

Yup, you split and therefore the one who get the child obviously wants to take care of it, it becoms his/her responsibility. Being otherwise is evil and ridiculous.

Right but if the man has custody they won't make the woman pay. Well, not that I have ever seen. Plus if she marries a millionaire the poor guy still has to pay because her new spouse's income doesn't count as her income.

Well it`s a bit irrresponsible, isn`t it? Marriage (Yes, it`s the ultimate slavery) is a contract, which guarantees the child support. If the mother is ready to have a children without that, then she actually agrees to have personal responsibility for its support.

That would be assuming that he was able to do so. My husband would gladly adopt my oldest from a previous marriage, but my ex refuses to sign away his rights. Child support is not a consideration for me in this at all, except I wish that my ex would quit paying long enough for me to force him to give up his rights. He never goes long enough, though he comes close sometimes.


I agree. Unfortunately, that too would apply to the custodial parent, unless the shelter was paid off and there were no other bills requiring cash to take care of.

I agree with your way of thinking. I bet that a lot of whoopsie-babies wouldn't happen if unwed mothers could not get child support.

I have met guys that had custody and got support. As for the millionaire thing, well, that is true where I live. My husband's income does not get consideration in my child support. Once again, my ex likes to complain and try to dodge paying support any way he can, but he could sign away his rights and never have to pay a dime again. He refuses to do so. He's probably one of the extremes though.

For a short time I still paid support every week, even on the weeks I had them. She was married and their combined income exceeded mine and yet I was still required to pay. Suing for full custody was the only way I got out of it and I get more time with my kids.

Now I think they/she should at least pay me back what I gave them...they didn't use my money for support they used it for rent and to have fun with.

Wish I could sue for custody. Around here you have to prove your ex is an ax murderer to get full custody. Even the worst trailer trash gets joint with weekend visitation at least. My biggest fear is my daughter deciding to go live with her Good Time Dad when she gets old enough, or him getting custody by me dying before she is grown. Forget child support. I just want my daughter to be raised by a responsible adult.

American Women have become like Casey Antoney in so many ways. This is why many are glued to her, because deep inside they are her.

So many of you men have no idea what it costs to raise a child. At least, with some sort of dignity. Grow a pair and take care of YOUR children--regardless of the mother you fucking deadbeats.

Child support is honestly nothing in comparison to actually raising the child. I have been on the ends of watching my own deadbeat father complain about support and barely ever see his kids and also I've watched it happen again with my mother and my younger half-brother.

2500 man commit suicide each year in Quebec 95% of them did it because they had to get out of the house to find a very miserable apartment then they were separated of their own children and finally have to pay close to 700 gran a month.

See that the reason why most men now don't want to have children because if the bitch decide it she could turn your life in a real living hell.

Women are running the show here for the moment but after collapse bitch will have to return in the position they are suppose to occupy i mean taken care of their children.

I am happy my 22 year old son won't have any children because i have told him the consequence that could come out of it.

In a word a men here after a divorce would never be able to restart again alone with the money the crook judge will left in his pocket the only chance he have is to find another women who already have a pension!

Women will unfortunately be the coming victim after collapse because a lot of men are mad as hell so expect rape and a lot of bad stuff to happen.

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It isn't slavery.

The part that men are having a problem with is the forced and sometimes unfair aspect of it.

If they don't have enough money, they get labeled a deadbeat for instance. They can even be jailed for being poor.

Most of the time women aren't put in that position and have been trained to think of the situation as normal.

Should a man take care of his own children? No matter what! But should the government be involved in that? No.

They are though, and it's going to stay that way, so men need to make certain they know what their doing before they end up trapped in the system.

you are full of it. why don't you forget the support now if you don't need it and talk to your ex. your words tell me that you think you are the saint and you ex is trash. more than likely he's a lot worse off financially than you could imagine you're just being a bitch because you can't get what you want. typical

It isn't but debtors prison is unconstitutional.

Word to the wise for all you dead beat dads. They don't put you in jail for not paying child support. They put you in jail for contempt of court. So next time ask them if they can put you in jail for demanding you do something that you could not do. they can't. The courts cannot ask of you something that you cannot do, do to lack of employment etc. But not many know this. Don't let them put you in jail for contempt. A simple statement to the judge that you do not wish to not follow the judges decision and order but it is impossibly for you comply and he does not have the authority to find you in contempt of court for something that is impossible for you to comply with. rken

It is slavery because by the Governments involvement they tag a 10% interest that grows astronomically beyond realistic ability to get out from behind. By design they have a system to hurt you and make it difficult to pay so it guarantees slavery.

Why are there so many government programs to do things except in the name of Child Support? California has an annual budget expecting this money for quit a few programs to exist. I'm sorry but if you are creating programs to exist from anothers hard ship thats slavery!

Why can't the Government create a system to help fathers get jobs or better jobs instead of going after fathers that are out of work and placing them in prison because they cant get a job?

Why susspend a drivers Professional License so they cant work?

They do this because it guarantees that person gets furthr behind to the point the interest is so high it guarantees them a slave for life!

Oh and if you owe support you cannot leave the country because they dont want to lose a slave to another Country!

It would be so simple to create an unemployment system specifically for child support so when a father is out of work it gives him time to get another Job instead of a deeper debt that guarantees a life of Slavery t the State.

You cant say anything because its in the name of Child Support. Sorry but that extra 10% interest has nothing to do with the child it goes to the state.

don't put your dick everywhere or stop complaining

Because if the Government takes your money, but does not give it to your child for support, it is "Involentary Servitude".

Right now, I have full custody of my child, and yet Kalifornia still expects me to pay them "child support". I owe $o.oo in back support, and yet owe over $6000.00 in "Interest" on that zero dollars owed, and over $3000 in "Administrative and late fees".

Does that clue you in a little bit?

Fuckin looters and pillagers runnin this state, and them and their courts can go fuck themselves in the ass for child support.

I say "Come and get me Mother Fuckers! Fuck your courts, and Fuck yer judges, and fuck all yer fucked up laws too!"

Well, if one thought the American dollar was the mark of the beast I can see why he or she would not want to work inside America at all. Would you give up your child here on Earth for your own soul and an eternity with that child? That's a hard question

Fuckn hell


This is just like a bibletard thread.

Good troll OP

I know this is a very hot issue.... but this is my take on it. I have 3 children with my ex....

Been divorced over 10 years now. Mutual decision between us together. NOT me trying to put him out on the street.

Our child suport is an equation plain and simple. It is this way in literally all states now. There is a dollar amount that is determined per child based on the combined income of the bio-parents. The amount is divided by the percentage of income the parent earns. So, if a woman were to out earn a man, then she would be responsible for the bulk of the support.

Just because you see yourself as being the only one paying.... this does NOT mean that is the amount of support in total. If the total was say, $500 per child, and you earn 75% of the total income, then you would pay $375 per month and she would be responsible for the rest. You may be the one paying but then she is responsible for the childs financial welfare... with the obvious exception of school clothing, extra cirriculars, and college.

Do you really think that $500 per month is what it takes to raise a child of any age? I can tell you it takes far far more and we do not live extravagantly.

I know I had to think about living in a "good school district" this meant about $500 more dollars in rent alone. The house had to be a bedroom larger which accounted for another $200. Groceries are $200 per month, per person.

My Now-husband is the one who takes the bulk of the financial burden for children which aren't even his. He does this gladly because he loves them, but it should not be some type of thing he HAS to do.

You were speaking about the children involved as if they were nothing more than a burden. SAD... I wonder if when little Junior becomes the next Heisman player up for the NFL draft, how much credit you will want to assume? I say whoever is paying for Kidsports/whatever... should get the checks from the little guy. I have noticed they always want to buy a house for their mom because she always worked so hard to keep food on the table. This is a stupid argument.....I would have thought there were more intelligent people here.

Last Edited by Divergent on 01/22/2012 01:39 AM

Child "support" does not constitute slavery.

BUT, the interference of the STATE to cast down judgement and DEMAND the payment of child support, or suffer consequences such as JAIL TIME and/or FEES/FINES - THAT IS SLAVERY.

I pay child support. I do so because it's the right thing to do, and I'm taking care of my boy. BUT, it's also ordered through the court. I don't dare not pay, because if I didn't, they'd have my fucking balls (wait a minute, they DO have my fucking balls - those sons 'a bitches. Screw those mother fuckers though).

THAT is why so many folks HATE child support. It's because kids are simply assets for not only the system (state), but also the "custodial parent".


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Last Edited by TeChNoXiC® on 01/22/2012 01:42 AM

The biggest problem is the courts...under bill Clunton, States now get dollar for dollar for any amount they collect. Are they motivated to throw you into jail if it means they get money? Yes.

But what does it really mean? It means that there is a bias towards women who earn less, and they naturally get the children so that the father will pay them more.

They act like they give a shit about your kids, but do they? Nope. You are a worm to them. And prosecuting attorneys are satanists to the CORE.

Holy s**t. You did that to your own son?

Damn you're a piece of work, you know that?