WTF !! WTF !! NYT'S KRUGMAN TRASHES GEITHNER'S BANK PLAN !! "IT WONT WORK , FREE MONEY FOR BANKS " !!!! | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 399487 ![]() 03/24/2009 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF !! WTF !! NYT'S KRUGMAN TRASHES GEITHNER'S BANK PLAN !! "IT WONT WORK , FREE MONEY FOR BANKS " !!!! Read DIET's thread today. It goes beyond this. The problem is the pooling and repackaging of MBS. These hybrid/exotic/new millineum bundled packages are so intertwined that it is going to take an army of accountants to decipher what belongs where and who owns what. Let alon what the percieved/market value is. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 641629 ![]() 03/24/2009 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF !! WTF !! NYT'S KRUGMAN TRASHES GEITHNER'S BANK PLAN !! "IT WONT WORK , FREE MONEY FOR BANKS " !!!! "For the private investors, this is an open invitation to play heads I win, tails the taxpayers lose. So sure, these investors will be ready to pay high prices for toxic waste. After all, the stuff might be worth something; and if it isn’t, that’s someone else’s problem. [The taxpayer's]..." I heard Krugman on PBS last night. He did say that it's a win-win situation for the "private investors" as their downside risk is at the most 15%, the taxpayer on the hook for the rest. And...the profits are split 50-50! Huh? Krugman is rightfully asking what the toxic assets are worth. The banks lost enormous amounts of money. Geitner's plan isn't going to help much. If you ask me, this bailout plan is only buying time for this lost cause. The debt is just too large to even fathom. . |
flybyshoeing User ID: 253360 ![]() 03/24/2009 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF !! WTF !! NYT'S KRUGMAN TRASHES GEITHNER'S BANK PLAN !! "IT WONT WORK , FREE MONEY FOR BANKS " !!!! |
Avian User ID: 464853 ![]() 03/24/2009 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF !! WTF !! NYT'S KRUGMAN TRASHES GEITHNER'S BANK PLAN !! "IT WONT WORK , FREE MONEY FOR BANKS " !!!! Denninger said the same thing, so did Peter Schiff and Ron Paul... Its a fucking house of cards...its falling June 2009 TICK TOCK TICK TOCK "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frédéric Bastiat food, water, ammo, weapons, battery back up solar, hand well pump, wood stove and 1 year of food...oh yeah PM's too...good luck |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 569371 ![]() 03/24/2009 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF !! WTF !! NYT'S KRUGMAN TRASHES GEITHNER'S BANK PLAN !! "IT WONT WORK , FREE MONEY FOR BANKS " !!!! Krugman is a cry baby. Did he stamp his feet and hold his breath too ? All he know how to do is criticize. Where is his plan ? President Obama was asked about Krugman's comments in the first Press Conference. He said that if Paul Krugman has ideas he should bring them forward and Treasury will look at them. Has he done that? Not that I have heard or read anywhere. Krugman has become a pundit. Take it for what's it's worth. Quoting: flybyshoeing 253360I think you should read more about Krugman in his website ! He says : "Let the banks fail and sell the banks someone else !! In the other hand , Krugman is a analyst , he is not in the Govt. team or so, if they want his advice they must show the money , no free lunch no free advice !! ![]() |
Hiro Protagonist User ID: 501302 ![]() 03/24/2009 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF !! WTF !! NYT'S KRUGMAN TRASHES GEITHNER'S BANK PLAN !! "IT WONT WORK , FREE MONEY FOR BANKS " !!!! Denninger said the same thing, so did Peter Schiff and Ron Paul... Quoting: AvianIts a fucking house of cards...its falling June 2009 TICK TOCK TICK TOCK Ok Avian, I've seen you repeat this often enough. Point me to the thread where you talk about June. Yours Truly! |
flybyshoeing User ID: 253360 ![]() 03/24/2009 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF !! WTF !! NYT'S KRUGMAN TRASHES GEITHNER'S BANK PLAN !! "IT WONT WORK , FREE MONEY FOR BANKS " !!!! Krugman is a cry baby. Did he stamp his feet and hold his breath too ? All he know how to do is criticize. Where is his plan ? President Obama was asked about Krugman's comments in the first Press Conference. He said that if Paul Krugman has ideas he should bring them forward and Treasury will look at them. Has he done that? Not that I have heard or read anywhere. Krugman has become a pundit. Take it for what's it's worth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 569371I think you should read more about Krugman in his website ! He says : "Let the banks fail and sell the banks someone else !! In the other hand , Krugman is a analyst , he is not in the Govt. team or so, if they want his advice they must show the money , no free lunch no free advice !! ![]() Ok, I will go to his site and take a look. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 641790 ![]() 03/24/2009 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF !! WTF !! NYT'S KRUGMAN TRASHES GEITHNER'S BANK PLAN !! "IT WONT WORK , FREE MONEY FOR BANKS " !!!! The only way someone makes money is if the toxic assets turn out to be not so toxic. Which means that the banks are OK and there is no crisis. Just an accounting disagreement. But if the toxic assets are worthless, why make the goby stuck with them all. At least Geitners plan puts private money at risk. If the things are worthless the goby won't take the whole hit. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 399487 ![]() 03/24/2009 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF !! WTF !! NYT'S KRUGMAN TRASHES GEITHNER'S BANK PLAN !! "IT WONT WORK , FREE MONEY FOR BANKS " !!!! Kruggy's afraid somebody somewhere might make some money - God forbid! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 641790The only way someone makes money is if the toxic assets turn out to be not so toxic. Which means that the banks are OK and there is no crisis. Just an accounting disagreement. But if the toxic assets are worthless, why make the goby stuck with them all. At least Geitners plan puts private money at risk. If the things are worthless the goby won't take the whole hit. They are going to have to detangle the MBS in order to sell this crap. A non performming mortgage that was worthzero in 2008 is still going to be worthless today. The problem is that the banks are going to have to have accountants do a item by item assessment of these instruuments and that is goign to take time. There are perfoming mortgages on the books and those can be sold. It's the non performing mortgages that owned in whole or in part that is the real problem. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 399487 ![]() 03/24/2009 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF !! WTF !! NYT'S KRUGMAN TRASHES GEITHNER'S BANK PLAN !! "IT WONT WORK , FREE MONEY FOR BANKS " !!!! 'Like my mama always said Mortgage Backed Securities is like a box of chocolates. You never know what your going to get inside.' So be a good American and buy that box of chocolate and you might find your own golden ticket. ![]() |