the Fear of God

What does that mean? Is it literal or figurative, does it have some obtuse meaning that has nothing to do with fear?

Thanks.


Hello Sombra,

The term comes from the Old Testament where it was used extensively. Having been brought up with these teachings, the Lord's apostles also referred often to it, however, in the mainstream scriptures, you will never see the Lord refer to it as His teaching was to bridge the gap between mankind and God. Whether, it is used to create a fear or a sense of awesomeness, these teachings still create separation between man and God. This was not what the Lord was about.


When you say 'the Lord' are you referring to Jesus or God? I know a lot of poeple consider them the same thing. I agree that Jesus was not about perpetrating the imagined separation between man and god, neither was or is god about that. Thank you for your post, you make a very good point.

Actually....the word fear was changed from the true meaning of "reverence, or awe".

We shouldn't ever fear "God"....only be awed by the awesomeness of it all.

Actually....the word fear was changed from the true meaning of "reverence, or awe".

We shouldn't ever fear "God"....only be awed by the awesomeness of it all.


Doesn't the Bible specifically say it's an unforgivable sin to edit the infallible word of God?

What does that mean? Is it literal or figurative, does it have some obtuse meaning that has nothing to do with fear?

Thanks.


Hello Sombra,

The term comes from the Old Testament where it was used extensively. Having been brought up with these teachings, the Lord's apostles also referred often to it, however, in the mainstream scriptures, you will never see the Lord refer to it as His teaching was to bridge the gap between mankind and God. Whether, it is used to create a fear or a sense of awesomeness, these teachings still create separation between man and God. This was not what the Lord was about.


When you say 'the Lord' are you referring to Jesus or God? I know a lot of poeple consider them the same thing. I agree that Jesus was not about perpetrating the imagined separation between man and god, neither was or is god about that. Thank you for your post, you make a very good point.


Sorry for the ambiguity Sombra. When I refer to the Lord, I am referring to the Lord - Jesus - the Christ.

What does that mean? Is it literal or figurative, does it have some obtuse meaning that has nothing to do with fear?

Thanks. God will deal with all fetishes and by golly that puts the fear in fear itself! l /u/s/t/ =living under sin thinking! Repent means stop the stinking way of thinking or reap a room in hell forever! LOL!

Actually....the word fear was changed from the true meaning of "reverence, or awe".

We shouldn't ever fear "God"....only be awed by the awesomeness of it all.


Doesn't the Bible specifically say it's an unforgivable sin to edit the infallible word of God?

Actually....the word fear was changed from the true meaning of "reverence, or awe".

We shouldn't ever fear "God"....only be awed by the awesomeness of it all.


Doesn't the Bible specifically say it's an unforgivable sin to edit the infallible word of God?

Actually....the word fear was changed from the true meaning of "reverence, or awe".

We shouldn't ever fear "God"....only be awed by the awesomeness of it all.


Doesn't the Bible specifically say it's an unforgivable sin to edit the infallible word of God?


So then why did man choose to do just that? (the bible is one example of them doing so)

What does that mean? Is it literal or figurative, does it have some obtuse meaning that has nothing to do with fear?

Thanks.


Hello Sombra,

The term comes from the Old Testament where it was used extensively. Having been brought up with these teachings, the Lord's apostles also referred often to it, however, in the mainstream scriptures, you will never see the Lord refer to it as His teaching was to bridge the gap between mankind and God. Whether, it is used to create a fear or a sense of awesomeness, these teachings still create separation between man and God. This was not what the Lord was about.


When you say 'the Lord' are you referring to Jesus or God? I know a lot of poeple consider them the same thing. I agree that Jesus was not about perpetrating the imagined separation between man and god, neither was or is god about that. Thank you for your post, you make a very good point.


Sorry for the ambiguity Sombra. When I refer to the Lord, I am referring to the Lord - Jesus - the Christ.


Its ok, it is just a clarification, as I have been accused of being an atheist because I don't beleive Jesus wants us to call him Lord. But that does not mean I disagree with you, only that my semantics are different. I also don't think Jesus would want a religion with his name on it. Anyway, you are the first person who calls Jesus Christ the Lord who also mentions the seapartion of man from god that I have encountered. Thank you.

What does that mean? Is it literal or figurative, does it have some obtuse meaning that has nothing to do with fear?

Thanks. FEAR OF GOD = f.orever e,vil a.liens r.oam o.nly f.aith g.ives o.ver d.anger! Seems to me fetishes will take over the mind and God who sees you knows what you think will not let you come to heaven! You get to be with people of like minds and actions!

What does that mean? Is it literal or figurative, does it have some obtuse meaning that has nothing to do with fear?

Thanks. FEAR OF GOD = f.orever e,vil a.liens r.oam o.nly f.aith g.ives o.ver d.anger! Seems to me fetishes will take over the mind and God who sees you knows what you think will not let you come to heaven! You get to be with people of like minds and actions!

ok let's just assume for the sake of argument God does
exist... even if you're an atheist pretend you're in a philosophy class and you're fleshing out the logic of various particular arguments. ok if you assume God exists as described in the bible then unless you're a fan of eternal "punishment" (various interpretations here left aside) it would be wise to fear him as it would be wise to fear a box jelly fish.

I think the more interesting question would be... if God exists why would he want you to fear him... one obvious answer would be that he loves people and would rather not have to "punish" them in keeping w/ his just character.

Fear is the "beginning" of wisdom hopefully not the culmination one might argue

What does that mean? Is it literal or figurative, does it have some obtuse meaning that has nothing to do with fear?

Thanks.


Hello Sombra,

The term comes from the Old Testament where it was used extensively. Having been brought up with these teachings, the Lord's apostles also referred often to it, however, in the mainstream scriptures, you will never see the Lord refer to it as His teaching was to bridge the gap between mankind and God. Whether, it is used to create a fear or a sense of awesomeness, these teachings still create separation between man and God. This was not what the Lord was about.


When you say 'the Lord' are you referring to Jesus or God? I know a lot of poeple consider them the same thing. I agree that Jesus was not about perpetrating the imagined separation between man and god, neither was or is god about that. Thank you for your post, you make a very good point.


Sorry for the ambiguity Sombra. When I refer to the Lord, I am referring to the Lord - Jesus - the Christ.


Its ok, it is just a clarification, as I have been accused of being an atheist because I don't beleive Jesus wants us to call him Lord. But that does not mean I disagree with you, only that my semantics are different. I also don't think Jesus would want a religion with his name on it. Anyway, you are the first person who calls Jesus Christ the Lord who also mentions the seapartion of man from god that I have encountered. Thank you.


I absolutely love it when I meet a spiritual sibling!
You're are correct about the Lord thing as He called himself our brother and friend. As far as religion goes, I have said the same often. His church is a fellowship of mind and spirit not a religious demonination.

If you agree that the bible really is the word of god. I don't beleive it is, because only an insane god would let people run around arguing over what god said or wrote in his book.

It means to take him serious. Christians are told "God is not mocked" and reminded that we reap what we sow, with the mockery consisting of us not *really* thinking we'll reap what we sow, and believing that we can somehow "get away" with inappropriate conduct.

ok let's just assume for the sake of argument God does
exist... even if you're an atheist pretend you're in a philosophy class and you're fleshing out the logic of various particular arguments. ok if you assume God exists as described in the bible then unless you're a fan of eternal "punishment" (various interpretations here left aside) it would be wise to fear him as it would be wise to fear a box jelly fish.

I think the more interesting question would be... if God exists why would he want you to fear him... one obvious answer would be that he loves people and would rather not have to "punish" them in keeping w/ his just character.

Fear is the "beginning" of wisdom hopefully not the culmination one might argue


The problem is attributing human emotions and thinking to god, which is ludicrous. If god cared whether we ate meat on friday or had abortions, those things would be impossible, god would not allow it, we would have no choice. All the rules attributed to god's word are made up by humans who need to control others or who want to punish themselves and each other.

What does that mean? Is it literal or figurative, does it have some obtuse meaning that has nothing to do with fear?

Thanks.


Hello Sombra,

The term comes from the Old Testament where it was used extensively. Having been brought up with these teachings, the Lord's apostles also referred often to it, however, in the mainstream scriptures, you will never see the Lord refer to it as His teaching was to bridge the gap between mankind and God. Whether, it is used to create a fear or a sense of awesomeness, these teachings still create separation between man and God. This was not what the Lord was about.


When you say 'the Lord' are you referring to Jesus or God? I know a lot of poeple consider them the same thing. I agree that Jesus was not about perpetrating the imagined separation between man and god, neither was or is god about that. Thank you for your post, you make a very good point.


Sorry for the ambiguity Sombra. When I refer to the Lord, I am referring to the Lord - Jesus - the Christ.


Its ok, it is just a clarification, as I have been accused of being an atheist because I don't beleive Jesus wants us to call him Lord. But that does not mean I disagree with you, only that my semantics are different. I also don't think Jesus would want a religion with his name on it. Anyway, you are the first person who calls Jesus Christ the Lord who also mentions the seapartion of man from god that I have encountered. Thank you.


I absolutely love it when I meet a spiritual sibling!
You're are correct about the Lord thing as He called himself our brother and friend. As far as religion goes, I have said the same often. His church is a fellowship of mind and spirit not a religious demonination.


Oops, I meant denomination!

As far as religion goes, I have said the same often. His church is a fellowship of mind and spirit not a religious demonination.


Oops, I meant denomination!



I thought they were the same thing.

Actually....the word fear was changed from the true meaning of "reverence, or awe".

We shouldn't ever fear "God"....only be awed by the awesomeness of it all.


Doesn't the Bible specifically say it's an unforgivable sin to edit the infallible word of God?



In a word - NO!

It means to take him serious. Christians are told "God is not mocked" and reminded that we reap what we sow, with the mockery consisting of us not *really* thinking we'll reap what we sow, and believing that we can somehow "get away" with inappropriate conduct.


Who determines what is inappropriate conduct?

Actually....the word fear was changed from the true meaning of "reverence, or awe".

We shouldn't ever fear "God"....only be awed by the awesomeness of it all.


Doesn't the Bible specifically say it's an unforgivable sin to edit the infallible word of God?



In a word - NO!


Actually, it does somewhere. I went to Catholic school; we studied it and YES it does. Just can't remember where. It says that altering any of God's words will get you a one way ticket to hell.

The same is true with even QUESTIONING the Holy Spirit.

So yeah -- guess I'm gong to hell. Thankfully I don't believe in the Catholic or Christian God.

Well, for christians, it's scripture. And I'm talking generally. We should realize that if we cheat to get ahead, it'll catch up to us. In an obvious example, televangelists can't screw around under the table and stay hidden. And yet, so many think they can. They don't take God seriously on his word. They think it somehow doesn't apply to them.

Actually....the word fear was changed from the true meaning of "reverence, or awe".

We shouldn't ever fear "God"....only be awed by the awesomeness of it all.


Doesn't the Bible specifically say it's an unforgivable sin to edit the infallible word of God?



In a word - NO!


Actually, it does somewhere. I went to Catholic school; we studied it and YES it does. Just can't remember where. It says that altering any of God's words will get you a one way ticket to hell.

The same is true with even QUESTIONING the Holy Spirit.

So yeah -- guess I'm gong to hell. Thankfully I don't believe in the Catholic or Christian God.

Anyway Sombra it's nice to meet you, I hope we can chat sometime.

How do you question the Holy Spirit? Sounds a lot like my experience of being called a blashpemer because I read the bible myself instead of letting the sunday school teacher tell me what it said.

Well, for christians, it's scripture. And I'm talking generally. We should realize that if we cheat to get ahead, it'll catch up to us. In an obvious example, televangelists can't screw around under the table and stay hidden. And yet, so many think they can. They don't take God seriously on his word. They think it somehow doesn't apply to them.


Speaking of televangelists, have any of you non-Christians seen Joel and Victoria Osteen?

BIGGEST fakes. They are so transparent, it's embarrassing.

It means to take him serious. Christians are told "God is not mocked" and reminded that we reap what we sow, with the mockery consisting of us not *really* thinking we'll reap what we sow, and believing that we can somehow "get away" with inappropriate conduct.


Who determines what is inappropriate conduct?


Well, for christians, it's scripture. And I'm talking generally. We should realize that if we cheat to get ahead, it'll catch up to us. In an obvious example, televangelists can't screw around under the table and stay hidden. And yet, so many think they can. They don't take God seriously on his word. They think it somehow doesn't apply to them.