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From Babylon to Rome - From the Universal Postal Union to the United Nations - the Foundations of the NWO

 
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5 Stars Rev!!! Very pertinent information.
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~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me
~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler

:damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds.
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Slaving for a so-called ERP solution that has lost a grip on reality. 17-hour shift for EOQ, total disaster due to fractal vertical polarization brought on by absolute incompetence from the top down and a bunch of analysts who think they can measure their way to a profit by telling our customers "No." What a disaster!
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LOL! Check your email...if you answer...I might send you something...
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5 Stars Rev!!! Very pertinent information.
 Quoting: The Jurist


Thanks!

This is truly one of the deepest rabbit holes I've stumbled into.

I think the G20 was just a distraction from the real meeting going down with the UPU yesterday.

as mentioned earlier, the BIS is the clearing house bank for the UPU - check out the Board of Directors.

* Guillermo Ortiz Martínez, México (Chairman of the Board of Directors)
* Hans Tietmeyer, Frankfurt am Main (Vice-Chairman)
* Nout H. E. M. Wellink, Amsterdam
* Axel A. Weber, Frankfurt am Main
* Mario Draghi, Rome
* Fabrizio Saccomanni, Rome
* Mark Carney, Ottawa
* Toshihiko Fukui, Tokyo
* Timothy Geithner, Federal Reserve Bank of New York
* Ben Bernanke, Federal Reserve Chairman, Washington DC

* Eddie George, London
* Jean-Pierre Landau, Paris
* Christian Noyer, Paris
* Stefan Ingves, Stockholm
* Mervyn King, London
* Guy Quaden, Brussels
* Alfons Vicomte Verplaetse, Brussels
* Zhou Xiaochuan, Beijing
* Jean-Claude Trichet, Frankfurt am Main
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"...the powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations."

Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time (1966)
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5 Stars Rev!!! Very pertinent information.


Thanks!

This is truly one of the deepest rabbit holes I've stumbled into.

I think the G20 was just a distraction from the real meeting going down with the UPU yesterday.

as mentioned earlier, the BIS is the clearing house bank for the UPU - check out the Board of Directors.

* Guillermo Ortiz Martínez, México (Chairman of the Board of Directors)
* Hans Tietmeyer, Frankfurt am Main (Vice-Chairman)
* Nout H. E. M. Wellink, Amsterdam
* Axel A. Weber, Frankfurt am Main
* Mario Draghi, Rome
* Fabrizio Saccomanni, Rome
* Mark Carney, Ottawa
* Toshihiko Fukui, Tokyo
* Timothy Geithner, Federal Reserve Bank of New York
* Ben Bernanke, Federal Reserve Chairman, Washington DC

* Eddie George, London
* Jean-Pierre Landau, Paris
* Christian Noyer, Paris
* Stefan Ingves, Stockholm
* Mervyn King, London
* Guy Quaden, Brussels
* Alfons Vicomte Verplaetse, Brussels
* Zhou Xiaochuan, Beijing
* Jean-Claude Trichet, Frankfurt am Main
 Quoting: Rev. Stargazer


Truly, you are a Princess hf
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~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me
~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler

:damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds.
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People don't get it do they Jurist?!

Or is this too deep for them?

BTW - what do you make of the 1970 Postal Reorganization Act? How is it possible for a private corporation to sign an international treaty? And, did they? I can't see them operating under any treaty previously signed by the US - doesn't seem as it would be valid under international law.
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WOW!

Killer. 5 stars
Cui Bono?
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WOW!

Killer. 5 stars
 Quoting: Frigg Stuyvesant


Did you catch the part on their website Frigg, regarding TAKING OVER internet security, e-commerce and BANKING???
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WOW!

Killer. 5 stars


Did you catch the part on their website Frigg, regarding TAKING OVER internet security, e-commerce and BANKING???
 Quoting: Rev. Stargazer


Commerce is the New World Order.

I saw a 8 minute piece by Jordan Maxwell that pushed the commerce agenda. Maxwell is a NWO plant.

What is transpiring is a neoRoman Empire on a global scale.
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(Be) Divide(ed) and (be) Conquer(ed)...

Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do.

~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me
~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler

:damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds.
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A little bit on the woo-woo side but, check out images of the BIS buildings as well as the European Union headwuarters - they share an odd taste in architecture...not unlike the Tower of Bable.
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A little bit on the woo-woo side but, check out images of the BIS buildings as well as the European Union headwuarters - they share an odd taste in architecture...not unlike the Tower of Bable.
 Quoting: Rev. Stargazer

damned
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(Be) Divide(ed) and (be) Conquer(ed)...

Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do.

~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me
~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler

:damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds.
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A little bit on the woo-woo side but, check out images of the BIS buildings as well as the European Union headwuarters - they share an odd taste in architecture...not unlike the Tower of Bable.
 Quoting: Rev. Stargazer

Yes I caught that.

I don't find ANYTHING too woo woo anymore!


I have to admit after seeing the Bohemians at it, My rose colored glasses came all the way off.There was a lot more to that realization but all those people joining in that fucked up ceremony really drove it home.

The historic origins (that I could uncover) of the League of nations and the New(old) age movement.The drug culture and destruction of the family structure etc..And all the other puzzle pieces just started falling into place.


Older esoteric books hinted at it long ago.Masonic literature etc..Always with the carrot dangling of peace and enlightenment....What a fucking laugh.

ONe WORLD gLOBAL control...

I thought I was just paranoid.
Cui Bono?
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A little bit on the woo-woo side but, check out images of the BIS buildings as well as the European Union headwuarters - they share an odd taste in architecture...not unlike the Tower of Bable.

Yes I caught that.

I don't find ANYTHING too woo woo anymore!


I have to admit after seeing the Bohemians at it, My rose colored glasses came all the way off.There was a lot more to that realization but all those people joining in that fucked up ceremony really drove it home.

The historic origins (that I could uncover) of the League of nations and the New(old) age movement.The drug culture and destruction of the family structure etc..And all the other puzzle pieces just started falling into place.


Older esoteric books hinted at it long ago.Masonic literature etc..Always with the carrot dangling of peace and enlightenment....What a fucking laugh.

ONe WORLD gLOBAL control...

I thought I was just paranoid.
 Quoting: Frigg Stuyvesant


If you really want to delve into the world of weird reality...try researching where the 'Seat of Satan' - mentioned in Revelations, was and now is. It is an actual place with an eye-opening history. I did some research last year - will try and get it all together and post a thread about it tomorrow. VERY creepy and VERY real.

Off to bed for me now.
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ONe WORLD gLOBAL control...

I thought I was just paranoid.
 Quoting: Frigg Stuyvesant


Frigg... Friggen awesome! Welcome to reality!!!
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(Be) Divide(ed) and (be) Conquer(ed)...

Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do.

~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me
~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler

:damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds.
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Good find OP!
Now I come to think of it, it started a lot earlier when in Rome the bischops got rid of the Spirit of men by a concili, somewhere between 600-800. (wild guess as I stink in history)
I cannot find the real date, but it had a majour impact on this materialistic view of the world nowadays. The church who officially gets rid of mens Spirit; think of the imapact on further development of the living creatures on planet Earth!
The bastards are the Vatican, once again proved.
I am curious now to their connection with the stuff you found.
What year was this concili?!
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How can I give a star?
I voted *amazing* or something. Is that the same as giving a star?
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I got it! *look and thou shall find*
Fourth concili of Constantinopel in 869
From that time on the church found that the Spirit of man did not exist anymore and we were degraded into beings with a 1.a body and 2.a soul. The one who believes in the Spirit of men is than a heretic, misbeliever, religious_outcast (Take your pick)
I think I read quickly some of Jesus Christ who was robbed also of something before that, but I have to study that more.
There are some roots of the Anti-Christ behaviour of the catholics.
In Switzerland there are lots of them. That is the only connection I see right now, but I guess it could be interesting to dig a little in this poo.
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I have an old book called "the Two Babylons" by Alexander Hyslop that deals with this very subject.

The transplantation of mystery Babylon into the Roman Catholic church.

I believe he was a former Bishop.I'll have to dig it out and re read it.


Better yet... [link to www.parkviewgospelhall.com]


Read for yourself.For free!

Damn! I paid a lot for that book back in the day.
Cui Bono?
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:DJthinkin:


Yeah - I know - one things leads to another - I must have at least 20 tabs open at the moment.
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I guess it DOES make one want to drink alot of beer. tounge
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league of nations and united nations
is a glimpse of the nwo
now look for a religion and you
may be able to connect the dots.
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My friend's wife had an extensive collection of united nations postage stamps,ceremoniously cancelled on the day of issue,others unstamped. Its a really big thing with them.The topics featured on each years' stamp really tells a story.You should check those stamps out.She inherited them from her step-father,who was really into it. He was an evil oil-soaked pedo-spook.Wascally wabbits! :11: :11:Hate to say it but it looks like the whole world is going postal!
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I got it! *look and thou shall find*
Fourth concili of Constantinopel in 869
From that time on the church found that the Spirit of man did not exist anymore and we were degraded into beings with a 1.a body and 2.a soul. The one who believes in the Spirit of men is than a heretic, misbeliever, religious_outcast (Take your pick)
I think I read quickly some of Jesus Christ who was robbed also of something before that, but I have to study that more.
There are some roots of the Anti-Christ behaviour of the catholics.
In Switzerland there are lots of them. That is the only connection I see right now, but I guess it could be interesting to dig a little in this poo.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 649787


The Swiss Guard have been the Pope's body guard since 1506.

The Holy See, which is officially a sovereign state and nation, though not a member of the UN, is the only state which is part of it on an 'observer' status.

Then we have the Thurn und Taxis connection....

And...the meaning of the word 'Catholic' itself - 'Universal' - Universal Postal Union - ie. Catholic Postal Union - ie. CPU - central processing unit....


pope ahhh
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The seat of satan is talked about in the last chapter of Hyslop's book "the Two Babylons"


Link above.
Cui Bono?
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Timely bump - as Obama has effectively given control of the USA to the European Union and the UPU is poised to take over the internet and all electronic commerce.
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I used to believe in this stuff, and then I had a revelation.

There is a finite amount of POWER and WEALTH in the world.

In my opinion, people are by and large self-interested... that is, they take care of themselves and their family first.

In order for a "new world order" conspiracy to be pulled off, a lot of very wealthy powerful people would have to give up their power, which, in some cases, they've held for a long time.

Do you really think that the Sultan of Dubai gives a crap what Obama thinks?

Or that the Queen of England fears the fraternity George Bush was in?

Is the royal family of Saudi Arabia is truly scared of corporate America?

Nope... nope... and nope

These people are not interested in a "NEW" world order because they've got an order that they like just fine. An order in which they are in charge and their descendants will have an easy life full of Maseratis, Caviar, and Private Islands.

All of you conspiracy theorists seem to forget that a "NEW" world order implies that they would have to give up power, which they aren't likely to do easily.

You guys are wasting your time with this stuff. You all talk about opening your minds... well... open your eyes, realize that self-interested people won't let other self-interested people take power and wealth that they've acquired over centuries.
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I used to believe in this stuff, and then I had a revelation.

There is a finite amount of POWER and WEALTH in the world.

In my opinion, people are by and large self-interested... that is, they take care of themselves and their family first.

In order for a "new world order" conspiracy to be pulled off, a lot of very wealthy powerful people would have to give up their power, which, in some cases, they've held for a long time.

Do you really think that the Sultan of Dubai gives a crap what Obama thinks?

Or that the Queen of England fears the fraternity George Bush was in?

Is the royal family of Saudi Arabia is truly scared of corporate America?

Nope... nope... and nope

These people are not interested in a "NEW" world order because they've got an order that they like just fine. An order in which they are in charge and their descendants will have an easy life full of Maseratis, Caviar, and Private Islands.

All of you conspiracy theorists seem to forget that a "NEW" world order implies that they would have to give up power, which they aren't likely to do easily.

You guys are wasting your time with this stuff. You all talk about opening your minds... well... open your eyes, realize that self-interested people won't let other self-interested people take power and wealth that they've acquired over centuries.
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What makes you think the wealthy will loose their wealth in a New World Order?

Seems to me that you never did any real research or digging into the nature of things.

Besides, what I posted in this thread isn't 'theory' it's real and actual and you can read it for yourself on their website.

It seems though that many find the following much easier to accept....

ostrich
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OP:

You're absolutely correct in your fears of the UPU -I'm a postal worker and they scare me to DEATH!

Just yesterday they held a meeting in Berne and our own General Jack [Potter] attended via VideoCon from Washington DC. One thing that was seriously discussed at this meeting?

That post offices would make perfect locations for BANKS in a global currency situation. BLEW ME AWAY!!!
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OP:

You're absolutely correct in your fears of the UPU -I'm a postal worker and they scare me to DEATH!

Just yesterday they held a meeting in Berne and our own General Jack [Potter] attended via VideoCon from Washington DC. One thing that was seriously discussed at this meeting?

That post offices would make perfect locations for BANKS in a global currency situation. BLEW ME AWAY!!!
 Quoting: gsbltd


I know! Check out the UPU website and then look at the news from their previous meeting - they plan on taking over ALL internet e-commerce, security AND banking!

BTW - on a side note, if you ever make it to the "Burning Man" festival, you should join the 'Disgruntled Postal Workers' camp. ;)

When I was there in '98, they had a car that looked like it was right out of Mad Max, mounted with real guns and went around 'Black Rock City' forcing people to take their 'mail' at the point of an AK! Loads of fun!
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Rev I got a lead! It combines your and my stuff so to say.
(fouth concili of Constantinopel 869)
[link to www.vaticanassassins.org]
I hope you can crack the nuts as I have a lack of intelligence here. I mean that, there are too may names and so on, plus English is difficult for me. My intuition could be of help though.
Let me know what got your attention. You also named some new names and Frigg (thanx for the link and the homework of nearly 300 pages;-)
I think we are in the heart of the shit. Or the anus haha
Why did Switzerland always stay "neutral?!" They ar giving up banksecracy. Is that some coincidence this happens together with the statements in public of building NWO now, or what? (no more hide and seek)
Lot of dots here, that is for sure.
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I'm familiar with "Burning Man" [lived in SF during the 80's and knew artists who attended] but I personally haven't made it... yet!





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