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Why are truth seekers so naturally hated by people ?

 
Spirit * Man !
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Why are truth seekers so naturally hated by people ?
I mean arent we all born truth seekers ? Isnt that the most natural thing of all ? Where did it get shut off in most, at what age and why ?

And why would there be those who dislike truth seekers so much ?

Are they a threat somehow ? But how ? Wont we all need the truth to live one day ...soon ?

I believe so.

The truth seeker should be the most befriended person alive.

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Man's symbiotic connection with the cosmos will be known and there is nothing which can stop that knowing. Because everything we all do everyday helps confirm that truth. It is just that we haven't reached the pinnacle of where it leads. But we will soon enough. We will either live or die with that knowledge. Between Heaven and Earth is us.

Be brave young warriors in truth.


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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Re: Why are truth seekers so naturally hated by people ?
We all want answers.
Some are just narcissistic enough to believe they have all of them.
While others are naive enough to believe the narcissistic ones.
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Re: Why are truth seekers so naturally hated by people ?
Fear!
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Re: Why are truth seekers so naturally hated by people ?
We all want answers.
Some are just narcissistic enough to believe they have all of them.
While others are naive enough to believe the narcissistic ones.
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But the only way to disprove a narcissistic view of truth is to say "i havent found it all". It is pretty humbling. And to say ..."let us learn together". "And exchange of information maybe?"

This should disprove the ego on the quest.

It is only the ones who dont want to ask others. They should be of concern. A question asker is the child within us all. It is the only part which can truly learn.


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Man's symbiotic connection with the cosmos will be known and there is nothing which can stop that knowing. Because everything we all do everyday helps confirm that truth. It is just that we haven't reached the pinnacle of where it leads. But we will soon enough. We will either live or die with that knowledge. Between Heaven and Earth is us.

Be brave young warriors in truth.


[link to www.youtube.com]

Only a miracle will save us now.


All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer
German philosopher (1788 - 1860)
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Re: Why are truth seekers so naturally hated by people ?
Fear!
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this
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Re: Why are truth seekers so naturally hated by people ?
Good nite all. Dont hate the truth seeker. Youll need him like a lifeboat one day : )

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Man's symbiotic connection with the cosmos will be known and there is nothing which can stop that knowing. Because everything we all do everyday helps confirm that truth. It is just that we haven't reached the pinnacle of where it leads. But we will soon enough. We will either live or die with that knowledge. Between Heaven and Earth is us.

Be brave young warriors in truth.


[link to www.youtube.com]

Only a miracle will save us now.


All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer
German philosopher (1788 - 1860)
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Re: Why are truth seekers so naturally hated by people ?
"Truth seekers" aren't necessarily hated by people.

However, those who present falsehoods as truth or those who are perceived as doing so naturally stir up animosity.
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Goodnight you lovely peaceful man :) It's only 5pm in Oz.
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Re: Why are truth seekers so naturally hated by people ?


'cause we can't face it
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Re: Why are truth seekers so naturally hated by people ?
What the hell is a "truth seeker"?

sounds like something from george orwells novel '1984'
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Frequency incompatibility. Some people are too different that one may totally hate other even if the other`s absolutely peaceful and benevolent. Sometimes I feel that`s exactly what drives some people crazy. But as a whole, I don`t really feel hated, just misunderstood.
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Fear!
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Exactly, fear.

FEAR of religion being completely deconstructed to the point fact that is all man-made!
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Re: Why are truth seekers so naturally hated by people ?
What the hell is a "truth seeker"?

sounds like something from george orwells novel '1984'
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It`s a person with own opinion on everything, who don`t live according to the herd (For example "It`s Christmas time! You MUST party" and all other shit).
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Re: Why are truth seekers so naturally hated by people ?
I mean arent we all born truth seekers ? Isnt that the most natural thing of all ? Where did it get shut off in most, at what age and why ?

And why would there be those who dislike truth seekers so much ?

Are they a threat somehow ? But how ? Wont we all need the truth to live one day ...soon ?

I believe so.

The truth seeker should be the most befriended person alive.

*


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 Quoting: Spirit * Man !

Good question Spirit Man.. a bit above the reactive mind of the mortal man ...."16 “Look! I am sending YOU forth as sheep amidst wolves; therefore prove yourselves cautious as serpents and yet innocent as doves. 17 Be on YOUR guard against men; for they will deliver YOU up to local courts, and they will scourge YOU in their synagogues. 18 Why, YOU will be haled before governors and kings for my sake, for a witness to them and the nations. 19 However, when they deliver YOU up, do not become anxious about how or what YOU are to speak; for what YOU are to speak will be given YOU in that hour; 20 for the ones speaking are not just YOU, but it is the spirit of YOUR Father that speaks by YOU. 21 Further, brother will deliver up brother to death, and a father his child, and children will rise up against parents and will have them put to death. 22 And YOU will be objects of hatred by all people on account of my name; but he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved." Mt10:16
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Re: Why are truth seekers so naturally hated by people ?
Its the job of the system to repress indivuality and uniqueness in a society so that people are easily controlled.

If you can't read and control the minds of people you just have to concentrate them on something as to not allow any anomalies to happen. A fine example is partying (not all parties of course ), then we have computer games, alcohol... Everything that is fun for us should be a reward for our hard work not a given thing.
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Subliminal Bigorty.
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Wow! I swear I can type -
Subliminal Bigotry.
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Re: Why are truth seekers so naturally hated by people ?
I mean arent we all born truth seekers ? Isnt that the most natural thing of all ? Where did it get shut off in most, at what age and why ?

And why would there be those who dislike truth seekers so much ?

Are they a threat somehow ? But how ? Wont we all need the truth to live one day ...soon ?

I believe so.

The truth seeker should be the most befriended person alive.

*


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 Quoting: Spirit * Man !



It all starts around age 3 when you start walking and talking. Parent's are the worse, second in line teachers. They're postering kids to obey and not question. Most dislike them because they (the hater) is docile and 'living' right w/out question and following protocols. When we question, it makes them think of the lies and bullshit they themself have endured and live by.
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Re: Why are truth seekers so naturally hated by people ?
We all want answers.
Some are just narcissistic enough to believe they have all of them.
While others are naive enough to believe the narcissistic ones.
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nar·cis·sism
1. Excessive love or admiration of oneself. See synonyms at conceit.
2. A psychological condition characterised by self-preoccupation, lack of empathy, and unconscious deficits in self-esteem.
3. Erotic pleasure derived from contemplation or admiration of one's own body or self, especially as a fixation on or a regression to an infantile stage of development.
4. The attribute of the human psyche characterised by admiration of oneself but within normal limits.

OK Let's start with 1.
Conceited self love is not something truth seekers would have a need of , they will know the love of self through a balance of their love for self and others... I would say it is a conceited person making this somewhat hasty judgement.

2.& 3. these conditions are cased by hidden beliefs about yourself and how you interact with the world, lack of empathy being a condition of an imbalance of materialism Vs Spirituality .. adults losing control and behaving like a child having a tantrum (sadly sometimes with a gun in their hand) is a sign of this repressed spirituality, empathy and compassion people have lost with themselves from not looking.

4. I can attribute the human psyche to the co creation of the current reality we share first and foremost via mass beliefs and individual preferences for value fulfilment

Each and everyone is participating in that psyche in an integral inviolate fashion regardless of self-admiration or the lack thereof.

Namaste
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What the hell is a "truth seeker"?

sounds like something from george orwells novel '1984'
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Especially in the context of this forum.
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Re: Why are truth seekers so naturally hated by people ?
We all want answers.
Some are just narcissistic enough to believe they have all of them.
While others are naive enough to believe the narcissistic ones.



But the only way to disprove a narcissistic view of truth is to say "i havent found it all". It is pretty humbling. And to say ..."let us learn together". "And exchange of information maybe?"

This should disprove the ego on the quest.

It is only the ones who dont want to ask others. They should be of concern. A question asker is the child within us all. It is the only part which can truly learn.


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 Quoting: Spirit * Man !

hf
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Re: Why are truth seekers so naturally hated by people ?
This saying:

If you make people think they are smart, they will love you.

If you make people THINK, they will hate you.

Something about bursting bubbles...........
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Re: Why are truth seekers so naturally hated by people ?
We got comfortable, we got lured into a faulse scence of security, most people went to sleep.

The dislike comes from a the dislike of looking at ones self, which they are forced to make a choice when somebody demostrates a truth, recongizeing the truth can be very painfull for some, some people dont want to see and recongize oneself, it easyer playing ignorant!.
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Re: Why are truth seekers so naturally hated by people ?
Who do you call "truth seekers"? People who want to prove their predetermined beliefs, are not truth seekers.
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The best Truth men can ever have to judge is Truth apparent, for Truth is actuality cannot be manifested to men of Earth. Then with regard to Truth and falsehood, do they not appear alike in things beyond our understanding? How then could we decide between them, were it not for the whispers of our conscience?

General opinion is the least proof in Truth, for men in gereral are ignorant. Then, too, the Law decrees that the surroundings and circumstances of man shall be more conducive to deception than Truth.

Seek after Truth, for it is the greatest of things man can understand. God is beyond his comprehension but Truth is not, it alone is the path towards the fulfilment of the destiny of man. Progress through life is the unveiling of Truth, but can man ever stand in her august presence? As the owl is blinded in the splendour of the sun, so will man be dazzled before the unveiled face of majestic Truth.

Truth is oftimes veiled with deceit or tainted with the foul touch of hypocrisy. Truth without honesty is a tree without leaves. Distorted Truth has a visage more frightening than any other conceivable horror, and even the innocent heart quails before it.

Kolbrin
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Re: Why are truth seekers so naturally hated by people ?
Fear!

Most people prefer to live in denial of the unpleasant, we hide away anything to do with death for instance.

You hope your children and grand children will thrive, and live to a ripe old age.

Politics and the economic model is a Ponzi scheme which relies on growth. In 40 years the human inhabitants on this planet will go from 6 billion to 9 billion. Population increase is exponential, and way out of control. Where and how does it end?

Hopefully it will happen after my lifetime. (denial!)

Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. - John 8:32 ... NOT!





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