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Best South American country for a USA ex-pat?

 
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Has anyone on here ever relocated from the US to South America?

If so, I'd love to know where, how, and if you like it.

Thanks!
 Quoting: Halloran



costa rica
(although, i do think its a highly seismic place)
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04/11/2009 11:28 PM
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bad food in brazil? I wonder what you ate that was so bad. everything I ate was delicious. maybe my brazilian friends just knew where to go and what to order. Everything was fresh and tastey.

but I also disagree with the US having the best food. that is a statement I would expect from someone who has not traveled much, which is obviously not the case with you.

don't forget south american cuisine is also influenced by many culures. asian, arab, african, indian spanish etc etc
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Thanks to everyone who responded, but ESPECIALLY DrKnow!

You've given me a lot to think about and I truly appreciate it.

hf
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Now you're being useless AND an asshole.



nice smackdown!
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bump

in total agreement...atta boy!
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There isn't one unless you're a hispanic to begin with.
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hispanic-catholic

They have a history of persecuting non catholics south of the US border.
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There isn't one unless you're a hispanic to begin with.
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That might be the most ignorant statement made on this thread.

Do you have any idea the amount of Germans, Italians, Japanese, and AMERICANS living in South America?
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The things you need to get used to are:

First, the manana thing. Manana does not really mean "tomorrow" it just means "not now". You MUST get used to dealing with this mentality. Wanting to get your shit done NOW is completely alien to these people, they can't even relate to WHY you think you NEED something so URGENTLY. This applies to EVERYTHING. It can be very frustrating, you MUST learn to deal with this. Shit takes forever to get done down here. That's just the way it is. Relax, have a beer, chill, it will get done eventually.

Lack of availability of certain things, or exorbitantly high prices for imported shit. You are used to being able to get just about ANY FUCKING THING IN THE WORLD ordered online FedExed to your door the next day. FORGET IT. Get used to the local version of whatever it is. Or do without. You might have to give up your Budweiser. Super cutting edge Japanese consumer electronics? Lagging about two years behind. From here, it is often actually cheaper for me to fly to Miami to buy expensive shit (computers etc) than to buy it here. This makes Mexico convenient. Parts for everything is always a hassle. Combine that with the manana and, well, you get the picture. These two hold true EVERYWHERE south of the border.

Stay away from the US border areas and big cities such as Mexico City, Sao Paolo, Rio de Janeiro, Buenos Aires, etc. They each have upwards of 20 million people, most living in cardboard shacks. Tossup between Mex and BA as "largest city in the world" over 25 million they are actually just the biggest SLUMS in the world and are a nightmare. Totally sweet if you are a rich fatcat with bodyguards. Otherwise not so much.

The FOOD. I had no idea how important this would be. I mean, you go to foreign restaurants all the time, right? You went to that Argentine steak house just last weekend, remember? And tacos at the Mexican joint every Tuesday, right? What's the big deal?

First of all, the food in a US restaurant is NOT the real McCoy, as anyone who has ever traveled down here will tell you. They change it up for the American bland palate. The real deal is WAY better. BUT...

That Argentine steak house was great, right? Argentine beef is known as the best in the world by far, which is true. So......how would you like to have that AWESOME beef for breakfast, lunch and dinner? Here's your order, sir, meat, meat, and a side of meat. For dessert, filet mignon. That's how they eat it. You are viewed as crazy and unmanly if you want to have, say, vegetables. You have to make a real effort to get anything different. They are not trying to pull anything, they just eat a LOT of meat. So that is what is available. It was my friend's birthday, we had a big party. The menu? THIRTY KILOS OF MEAT and ten kilos of bread. THAT"S IT. And that was a hell of a spread to them. We went all out.

To me, the food in Brazil was basically inedible. It was SO bad I would just eat enough to make the shooting pangs of hunger go away and that's it. You know how if you are really hungry anything tastes good? Yeah, not in Brazil. This colored my outlook on everything else.

Mexico, in my opinion has the best food. I always assumed it all would be like Mexican food but it definitely is not. BIG difference. I love Mex food, but, even though I live in a tourist area so there are American joints like McPuke, Johnny Rockets, BK, that is all CRAP and I never eat there, and I am pretty much taco'd fucking OUT. I can make normal food myself, but if I go out even though there are a lot of restaurants here the choices are limited. One time I made meatloaf for this Mexican chick. It BLEW HER MIND. She had never had anything like it. MEATLOAF.

In the US we have by far the best food in the world. Everyone says, "oh, there's no such thing as american food, just hot dogs and hamburgers." I have to call bullshit on that. We have restaurants with food from EVERY country all over the place and all kinds of cool food fusion that goes on because of the "melting pot" effect. Here, if I go out, unless I go to one of the overpriced tourist places, my choices are tacos, tacos, enchiladas, flautas, or chimichangas. Know what I mean?

The most cultured and sophisticated place by far is Argentina. Now I know all the other South Americans are going to flip out but it's true. Actually, I guess that's just my opinion but it is most everyone else's too even if they don't want to admit it. If you are into museums, architecture, opera, philharmonic, etc. you will be right at home. Most other places are definitely NOT like that.

Personally, I am into the beach scene. I love scuba diving, windsurfing, sailing, kayaking, all that shit. So I am right at home as long as there is a nice beach and a coral reef. Tubular waves is a plus. To me, that by far makes up for the minor downside.

Brazil is reputed to have the hottest babes. (Debatable) Personally, I think Colombian chicks have the highest percentage of hotness plus the highest grade of hotness, but this could (and will) be debated endlessly. I need more research. Brazileras are definitely HOT.
 Quoting: DrKnow 653916




Ex Pat laughing here in Brasil at your post. You eat beef? Here it's chicken. Nothing but chicken. The sad thing is that they don't even know how to properly cut the chicken so you get the breast or the leg. If you go to a restaurant and order chicken they bring out what looks like pieces of fried vertabrae.

Beans and rice and chicken. That's it. I can relate to your meatloaf story. Chocolate chip cookies almost got me a statue built in city square.
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Has anyone on here ever relocated from the US to South America?

If so, I'd love to know where, how, and if you like it.

Thanks!
 Quoting: Halloran


Same here,

Like the OP here I am looking to possibly Ex-Pat myself to some country in South America,

OR at the very least Vacation ALOT there often - throughout the long winters usually about 6 months or MORE here in the Pacific Northwest - WA State.

Colombia has pretty much been at the top of my list for a while,

But after reading some of the replies here I am now thinking also possibly Argentina, or perhaps even some others.

I am looking into all aspects and considerations I will be having to deal with.

I am a 40 year old single, white, German, male with a steady Social Security Disability Income for the next 3 years minimum.

I'd really like to take my car I just rebuilt a high-performance motor for with me, but may If I have to opt for selling it and buying something new to drive.

I love to drive and so the countries with the best highways and roads with freedom to travel are probably more inclined towards my consideration.

I love the high range of variation available in Colombia with it's coastal Sea Level towns like Cartegena and the very High Altitude mountains located there besides.

I am going to have to look into what it's like to drive from say Cartegana (sp?) to Medellin I suppose.

Any further information anyone can help provide will be appreciated!~


PS. ~ Food, Medical Care Availability, Costs of Living, Grocery Prices, Accessibility & IMPORTATION of Shipped Items from ebay, etc. - this is highly important!
I am too used to ordering things I need alot and regularly
- best Postal & Shipping Services then I guess, and/or ability to buy things made overseas locally are high on my list of things to take into consideration also
- I don't know or speak Spanish yet either, but I know I can get what I need to learn quickly

peace



Last Edited by Lord.Kayle on 07/25/2011 03:31 PM
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bump for THAT--^

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Brazil. Good economy, nice whether, beatiful beaches and HOT HOT women.
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Aww, it's okay to come here and pillage but they dont' want us there after they got funded by free American hand outs? Tough shit I say! I am going to go and buy land there and they can pound sand. I am Portuguese anyway.
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No, after we've exploited their natural resources, polluted the environment and supported puppet regimes in the US's favor to the detriment of the local populace, THEN the US comes in and throws in a well publicized token donation. Well uh, no, we're not exactly welcomed with open arms. Same applies to the rest of the world.

No they don't hate us for our freedoms.

Do your homework AC.

h
 Quoting: hardboiledheretic



clappa
It's good to know that not all americans are clueless and arrogants.hf
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Brazil. Good economy, nice whether, beatiful beaches and HOT HOT women.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1472825


Thanks for the feedback

How about cars and driving, highways and roads?

I would very much like to possibly take my own car.

I have a 35' Ford I want to restore and be able to take,

if possible?


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Costa Rica. The land is cheap. When the SHTF a lot of Americans bought land there including myself. I'm looking to sell though. Wife and I are talking about central Australia.
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I would like to move south also but my thing is I have several wives and I want to be able to bring them with me and live in peace. Think is possible?
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Brazil. Good economy, nice whether, beatiful beaches and HOT HOT women.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1472825


Thanks for the feedback

How about cars and driving, highways and roads?

I would very much like to possibly take my own car.

I have a 35' Ford I want to restore and be able to take,

if possible?


 Quoting: Lord.Kalin


Sure! But then you must aim for the south and southeast.
These regions have a pretty good infraestructere. You should know that Brazil is a "car country". So much that we have huge traffic jams in almost every big city.
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Belize is English language, and pretty upscale in the relative sense.

Costa Rica is nice.
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Brazil. Good economy, nice whether, beatiful beaches and HOT HOT women.
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are you crazy?? let this north americans out of here!! hauhsusha just kiding...

ltana

but this is not totally truth, there's a lot of violence here, above average...
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but this thread is funny... just thinking you all having to learn portuguese... ho ho ho...
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That's easy... The Falkland Isles.

Remember, the UK leeps a nuclear sub with a full complement of nukes on board making it the best defended place o Earth per head of the population, actually better than even Washington DC.
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Brazil. Good economy, nice whether, beatiful beaches and HOT HOT women.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1472825


Thanks for the feedback

How about cars and driving, highways and roads?

I would very much like to possibly take my own car.

I have a 35' Ford I want to restore and be able to take,

if possible?


 Quoting: Lord.Kalin


Sure! But then you must aim for the south and southeast.
These regions have a pretty good infraestructere. You should know that Brazil is a "car country". So much that we have huge traffic jams in almost every big city.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1472825


Thanks!~ thumbs

Argentina?

Best country in South America with nicest roads and highway system, Free-ways? & Inter-States?

Not so important but all around ability to travel with a nice car on nicely paved roads and highways is.



Last Edited by Lord.Kayle on 07/25/2011 04:33 PM
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Brazil. Good economy, nice whether, beatiful beaches and HOT HOT women.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1472825


are you crazy?? let this north americans out of here!! hauhsusha just kiding...

ltana

but this is not totally truth, there's a lot of violence here, above average...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1481928



Yeah. Sadly our country has lots of problems too.
Violence, corruption, lack of education and heathcare, etc, etc, etc.
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Brazil. Good economy, nice whether, beatiful beaches and HOT HOT women.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1472825


are you crazy?? let this north americans out of here!! hauhsusha just kiding...

ltana

but this is not totally truth, there's a lot of violence here, above average...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1481928


Yeah. Sadly our country has lots of problems too.
Violence, corruption, lack of education and heathcare, etc, etc, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1472825


yep! but, at least in the economy we're getting better... - ie i was poor, now i'm not so poor anymore.. hoho
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I've read that Uruguay is pretty good.

Similar to Amsterdam with legal ability to have and grow your
own marijuana and even other things.

Argentina and Chile I don't know so much regarding
any of that about yet.



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I think americans would LOVE Venezuela.
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I think americans would LOVE Venezuela.
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hauhsuahushuh banana2
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I think americans would LOVE Venezuela.
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I can say I really actually think I would!~




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Chile is a nice place, with the people very friendly. Relatively low crime (biggest problem is theft, pickpocketing) I spent about 6 months there for where I work and enjoyed it very much. BTW, the postal system there works very well as I had several things sent to me and all arrived OK.
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Chile is a nice place, with the people very friendly. Relatively low crime (biggest problem is theft, pickpocketing) I spent about 6 months there for where I work and enjoyed it very much. BTW, the postal system there works very well as I had several things sent to me and all arrived OK.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1439733


Cool!~ Thanks for the info and feedback!

thumbs

I've seen someone else mention Chile recently too.


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