McVeigh was a Patsy at OKC Murrah

Maybe a patsy but unlike Oswald actually involved. It wasn't high nitrate fertiliser. The bomb was directional.

What bomb? How was he involved?

McViegh was probably a government operative sent to inflitrate the militia movement and then used as a patsy for the bombing.

He ADMITTED to doing it, for the love of Pete!

Well now McVeigh is a poster boy for homeland security to disarm veterans. The last thing the O'globalists in Washington need is an armed trained populace.

There was no Ryder truck bomb at all, and bombs were found in the building. The OKC bombing was a false flag federal power grab.


Thirty Questions on the Oklahoma City Bombing

21. FBI agents are said to have tracked down McVeigh's truck rental agency by finding a vehicle identification number (VIN) on the truck's rear axle. This axle was found either in the bomb crater, according to the mayor of Oklahoma City's initial press statement, or three blocks away according to the later FBI version. Which statement is true?









There was a truck.
The axle flew across the street, through a long parking lot and through the window of a completely different building.

Google the name "Andreas Strassmier"

For extra points, google the name "Emad Salem".

Right...no one has EVER confessed to something they did not do.

Wow! You shill clowns aren't even creative.

yup is why they registered a implosion and then a explotion at the norman EQ center.

heres the one thing also i find funny .. whens the last time you were pulled over and the cops arrested you or soemone you know, and then LEFT THE VEHICLE on the sid of the road for 4 days..

I mean hell this guy just blew 196 people to hell or heaven yet doesnt bust the cop with the pistol he has?

He plans this elaborate event.....

but somehow forgets to drive a tagged vehicle>?

Go to Youtube and type in ;

False Flag OO4 - The NWO versus Militias

Its about Oklahoma and how We were lied to - AGAIN...

Seriously - Its a Video No One can dispute as It contains on the Ground reporting about It, as well as Official Reports that ALSO state it was NOT a Truck Bomb...

You should all be able to take it from there I would think...



Last Edited by Mercuriel™ on 04/15/2009 05:55 PM

Not for something that would get them the death penalty, numbnuts.

Give it up sister, that song is getting old.


Testimony:
"maintenance man came out and the truck axle fell on the front of his car."
[link to www.law.umkc.edu]
[link to www.rickross.com]

They claim to have found an axle and a VIN on the axle.
The axle story is a complete fabrication just as McVeigh admitting to what he claimed. There are no VINs on axles.

The feds also claim the was a truck crater in the pavement which there was not.
[link to www.truthdig.com]

We'll see if that pic link stays up^

There was a truck. Filled with ANFO. However no way an ANFO bomb could do that building the math doesn't work out. ANFO is a low order explosive and is very inefficient through air.


Only way to shear the front columns on that building and cause it to collapse are cutting/ shear charges directly placed on those front columns.


Yeah he was a patsy.

And the fastest individual to ever be convicted and put to death by the US government.


Think it over.

Last Edited by Omega on 04/15/2009 06:01 PM

That's NOT a fabrication she's right. However really moot...see my post above...

VIN, maybe. But the axel was picked up. You can read all the little websites you want that say this or that but it doesn't change the truth.

As for the building? I don't believe for ONE second that that truck took out that much of the building. No Way.

The gears inside the diff.
Have numbers.They can track then the diff to the VIN it was put into.

We don't have to understand all that, just the actual science and evidence of the crime. There are no VINs on those truck axles, bombs were removed from the building, and the building blew out not in. there was no truck crater.

Once it gets into the courts, prisons and the media the government can fabricate anything. We know they have disappeared other in like manner to the witness relocation program. McVeigh is on an isle somewhere, or in Italy. He was Catholic. Just shows how gullible you are.

hadn't you suggested this name for the wtc?

There was no Ryder truck bomb at all, and bombs were found in the building. The OKC bombing was a false flag federal power grab.

Yeah, like a guy named McVeigh wouldn't stand out in Italy, or a tropical island, for that matter, you foolish fool.

There were witnesses to his execution.

But more importantly, why would you think the Catholics would be behind the OKC bombing? How crazy are you?!

I don't care if you don't believe me, but I'm telling you one more time. There was a truck. Trust me. As for the rest of your claims, I actually mostly agree. MOSTLY.

He's probably yukking it up with Ken Lay and Elvis.

Shortly to be joined by Bernie Madoff and Phil Spector!

seems like april 19 is a sort of bad day for some.

It's connected. The two events are related.

It's called state sponsored terrorism.

The state needs enemies in order to justify it's existance, and it's power. So they create them. Everywhere.

USEFUL ENEMIES
[link to www.newdemocracyworld.org]

Because you can never have too many boogeymen to frighten the masses with.

weavers.
waco.
okc.
covenant sword and arm of the lord.


carry on.


and puke all the gov't informants like gary hunt. really. involved in two of the above.

but ya, andreas strassmier, a west german intelligence operative. he is not a nazi, white supremacist, anti-semite, or racist. sources in germany claim strassmier is jewish. this information has been confirmed by two additional independent german sources...
[link to www.hourofthetime.com]


carry on.

Timothy McVeigh had a sister.

Did she write a book? Anybody know?

"The official story"

Two drifters blew up the Murrah building, using an aluminum truck containing five plastic drums of fertilizer, which was parked 40' from the building.


The truth:

The attack was orchestrated by Zionists out of Elohim City-Reverend Millar-Millar, a Jewish Canadian, who played the Fuehrer of Elohim City.

In 1995, a massive explosion in the heartland of America, killed 169 people. The government told everyone it was the work of a disgruntled ex-army private, who became a white supremacist.

It appears, that the American Mossad units, the SPLC and ADL, had a connection, and there was multiple bombs.

The Public Story And Timeline


Timothy McVeigh, born in New York in 1968, was the alleged mastermind. In 1990, McVeigh joined the Army, where he met Fortier and Nichols (Anti-Semites). McVeigh is discharged in 1992 and headed home to NY, where he worked as a security guard till 1993. Next he visits Nichols at a Michigan farm, where he is reputed to have read anti-Jewish propaganda, and became a neo-nazi.

McVeigh made a living as a free-lance salesman, traveling the gun show circuit.



In March of 1994, he met Strassmeir at a gun show. In April 94, he went back to Kingman, Arizona for a few months, where he lived with an Army buddy, Michael Fortier. McVeigh and Nichols later meet in Kansas, where they rob a gun collector of $60,000, and start buying fertilizer for the bomb.



Jan 1995 -April 95

In January 1995, they take the fertilizer to Arizona, and meet with Mike and Lori Fortier, where McVeigh stays for three months.



April 1995

McVeigh and Nichols meet in Herrington Kansas, 150 miles north of Oklahoma City, a week before the bombing. They rent the truck, mix the chemicals, then McVeigh blows up the building on April 19, 1995.

Terry Nichols

Nichols was a 35 yr old drifter, who joined the army in 1988, where he met McVeigh and Fortier. He spent time in the Philippines, where he married twice. Oddly, he made a few trips to the Philippines alone during 1994, and Jewish sources contend that Nichols trained under Ramsi Yousef.


The intelligence community say - "Nichols was an unwitting Mossad recruit, and floating the ridiculous Ramsi Yousef story is typical of Mossad disinformation propaganda. The Philippines is a Mossad hub."


The REAL story of the militias:

Everything Starts With The S & L Collapse Of 1982

From 1973 to 1982 the Federal Reserve flooded the economy with credit, and the result was a major farm property and commodity inflation. Midwestern farmers, buoyed by inflated asset prices, and encouraged on by the banks borrowed excessive amounts of cash. Everything was fine until 1982, when the Federal Reserve drove interest rates to 22%, and commodity prices collapsed.



The Savings And Loan Swindle

David Paul, who stole $3 billion from Miami S & L's, typified the swindle. The FDIC found that Paul had lent billions to Jewish acquaintances, loans that were never repaid.



The Small Farms Collapsed

The 1980's saw $ 400,000 harvests, and $ 2,000,000 farms collapsed by 75%, and the bankers forced the farmers to auction.


The Militias Were Formed

The bankers initially felt this would be another simple 1929 style swindle, but as the banks started to foreclose, the farmers formed the basis of the modern militias. These Militias pinpointed the bankers as the ones behind the scheme, and threats of violence shook the community.

Jewish Watchdogs Mobilize

The ADL and SPLC, the Mossad's American terror organizations, realized these militias would provide a basis for a future resistance movement, and they needed to take action. These groups could jeopardize their plans for a 2006 world-wide collapse (1929 redux).


SPLC and ADL formed anti-militia units

Morris Dees and Abe Foxman, through their organizations, formed special 'Militia Watch' units. The SPLC's normal function was keeping the blacks stirred up with their bogus KKK, and protecting Jewish interests, such as their abortion industry. After the S & L fiasco backfired, they realized Militias were their first real threat. Their target now became the militias.

The Zionists Infiltrate The Militias

Both groups infiltrated the militias, and set up False Flag terror bases at Coeur d'Alene, Idaho and Elohim City, Oklahoma.

Elohim City - Oklahoma

They put a Canadian Jew, Robert Millar, to work as the head of the compound.

These groups went on a spree of false flags: ~ The murder of Alan Berg by the 'Order', Chevy Kehoe, Gordon Kahl, Robert Matthew's Brinks heist.

The Jewish goal was to use the FBI and BATF eliminate their enemies, the militias.


The bomb itself:

There are image scans of the seismographic output from the Norman, Oklahoma Z-axis recorder for April 19th show there was a second explosion. The fact that the YMCA across the street unaffected confirms the truck bomb didn't implode the Murrah building. It turns out that the 10 second delay is caused by differing propagation times through the layers of shale and sandstone that lie under Oklahoma City.

Strassmeir had Israeli special forces demolitions experts wire the Murrah building columns with high-explosive charges. Sayanims, who provided building maintenance, provided the access.

Military demolition expert reviews it. Witnesses saw repairmen working on columns.

The Real Perpetrators

Andreas Strassmeir
A German Jew, and the mastermind.

Strassmier cover is he German. He was trained in Israel, and was sent directly to Elihom City. He speaks fluent Hebrew, and has a girlfriend in Israeli army. He is Mossad agent and an explosive expert. He is considered John Doe # 3.

Micheal Brescia

Morrano Jew and FBI informant. Michael Brescia was identified as John Doe #2, the person witnesses saw with McVeigh that morning.


Gary Hunt
Hunt runs a Patriot Website, and was also involved with the Waco Massacre in 1993. Gary Hunt is a suspected informant for the BATF. Hunt was in Oklahoma City on the day of the bombing. He is believed by some to be Jewish..

Daniel Spiegelman

Spiegelman was the fund raiser for the Oklahoma City bombing operation. He stole some rare manuscripts from Columbia University. He was arrested and imprisoned in the Netherlands when he attempted to sell historic documents. United States District Judge Lewis Kaplan, a Zionist, sentenced Spiegelman to 60 months in jail, plus 3 years probation.

Daniel Spiegelman is Jewish.


Robert Millar

A Jewish Canadian who was an FBI informant

ELOHIM CITY is a 400-acre compound, which was founded in 1973, and is located near Muldrow, Oklahoma. Elohim is Hebrew for Gods.


Ancillary figures:

Judge Richard Matsch

Matsch, a Jewish cowboy, controlled the trial. His court blocked this testimony on other bombs and seismograph information. Matsch wouldn't allow Carol Howe to testify about Elohim City.

Israeli Bomb Experts

Israeli bomb experts, Dorom Bergerbest-Eilom and Yakov Yerushalmi, were brought to Oklahoma at the request of ATF agent Guy Hamal.

According to Yediot Arhonot, there were 3 Israelis in Oklahoma before April 19th attack.


Carol Howe
She was the Elohim City temptress.

Most likely an SPLC plant, and definitely a federal informant.

Militia Movement
In many ways, the Oklahoma City bombing spelled the end of the anti-government militia movement to which McVeigh was linked. In the years following the bombing, most such groups either disbanded, or were pushed further to the fringes of American politics.



What Really Happened

The OKC bombing was engineered out of Elohim City, by Strassmeir, using Mossad demolition experts.

The SPLC, which is a US arm of the Mossad, set up the Elohim City base to recruit, and organize from. Their goal was to eliminate the Militias. After the BATF killings at Waco and Ruby Ridge, the FBI and BATF readily accepted the ADL and SPLC as trusted informants.

The ADL covered themselves by telling the FBI: "We have information on a pending terror attack, but not the specific location."

If Elohim City wasn't an SPLC False Flag operation, the FBI would have called in the Air National Guard, and carpet bomb Elohim City.

The FBI leveled Waco, slaughtered Randy Weaver's family, but they left the Elohim terror base untouched?