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Direct from a Confidential report: REGARDING GOLD! And other INFO

 
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Will Texas succeed?



Texas has ALWAYS been successfull...

you DIPSHIT...

learn some ingrish
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Doesn't matter where in the US you live. It's too late already.
And there is no such thing as 100%. Assumption is the cause of all fuck ups.
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Over the past 3 years LEAP 20/20 has made some incredible predictions in their GEAB reports. I discovered them about 12 months ago. They had predicted about 6 months earlier that the US stock market would tank around October. In February of last year they predicted the US deficit would be 1.5 trillion this fiscal year. I told people this in December of last year and they laughed at me. In October they predicted a default by the US gov in June or July of this year. Now the Chinese have stopped buying and the Fed is having to monetize.

If you have read to this point in the thread, and you are wondering if the brilliant arguments of the naysayers on here are correct, please pay attention to LEAP 20/20's past predictions. Summaries of all of their GEABs are available on their web site. Go back and read em all and ask yourself, how has their track record been to date. Answer the question for yourself and ignore the shittoheads on this thread. Think for yourself.


yeah &

so there!



So the hell what. Hundreds of freaking bloggers called for the crash!! Those 2020 LEAP wankers had been calling for a major crash since at least '04. A broken clock is right twice per day. And they have their heads so far up their own ass they don't realize EU is leveraged even more than the USA.

The USA is a hooker, but the rest of the world is a hooker with AIDS! ohyeah



Uh, calling for a crash in '04 is not such a stretch to what we're seeing today. You're leveraging remark is meaningless. Go to bed.
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if you knew enough- you would already know that everything that created the boom since 2002 has been created through ridiculous fiscal policies and is predicted on the false assumption that the stimulation of debt creation = wealth creation through the illusionary increase in the value of assets...you would already know that we are about to experience the depths of the recession that we were supposed to go through in 2001 which means we'll all revisit asset ( especially crap ones like housing and equities ) values that will probably approach or go lower than 1998
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So the hell what. Hundreds of freaking bloggers called for the crash!! Those 2020 LEAP wankers had been calling for a major crash since at least '04. A broken clock is right twice per day. And they have their heads so far up their own ass they don't realize EU is leveraged even more than the USA.

The USA is a hooker, but the rest of the world is a hooker with AIDS! ohyeah



Uh, calling for a crash in '04 is not such a stretch to what we're seeing today. You're leveraging remark is meaningless. Go to bed.



suck it eurotard, you're going down!
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I'm not an Eurotard, but I have to admit, yea, they are going down too...

What is sad is that the land of the free and the home of the brave don't seem to have the balls that the Europeans displayed at the G20...

The land of the free will be the land of the most savage ever seen in the history of the world. :-(
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Your take on this pig man?????


"They shall cast their silver in the streets, and their gold shall be removed: their silver and their gold shall not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the LORD: they shall not satisfy their souls, neither fill their bowels: because it is the stumblingblock of their iniquity."
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but you say the streets in heaven is paved with gold..



but still you doubt
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Will Texas succeed?



Texas has ALWAYS been successfull...

you DIPSHIT...

learn some ingrish
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So Texas is going to become an independent country? Please expand on your idea. I see Texas flooded with refugees in the future...
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if you knew enough- you would already know that everything that created the boom since 2002 has been created through ridiculous fiscal policies and is predicted on the false assumption that the stimulation of debt creation = wealth creation through the illusionary increase in the value of assets...you would already know that we are about to experience the depths of the recession that we were supposed to go through in 2001 which means we'll all revisit asset ( especially crap ones like housing and equities ) values that will probably approach or go lower than 1998
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I do understand this. I really do. Do we comprise 4%, maybe 8%?

And what are we getting as our remedy by these G20 proceedings? We are getting force fed more of the same, but only on a greater scale of criminalism. These same bastards have the GALL to actually print the all seeing eye on our paper currency. What do you expect from the money masters next?


You need to know that you aren't the only awake person here on this thread!
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Your take on this pig man?????


"They shall cast their silver in the streets, and their gold shall be removed: their silver and their gold shall not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the LORD: they shall not satisfy their souls, neither fill their bowels: because it is the stumblingblock of their iniquity."





but you say the streets in heaven is paved with gold..



but still you doubt
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That's cryptic.....please talk in Ebonics...just for me...I'll mail you a silver gold eagle.
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OP that last post from the report appeared to suggest that one had to be very careful about investing in gold b/c of the risk that the US may once again make individual ownership illegal.

What do you personally suggest in regards to buying physical gold/silver right now and how much?

Do you have any inside information about the probability that the US is planning on doing this?

If they do plan on doing this will they let the price of gold/silver rise to the levels that they should be at?

If they decide to make gold illegal would that apply to silver as well?

Would platinum or palladium be any safer?

If one doesn't put their money in PMs for safe keeping what else is there?

Sorry if some of these questions sound naive. Thanks in advance.


Ooops, Correction:

"If they do plan on doing this will they let the price of gold/silver rise to the levels that they should be at?" should read: "If they do plan on doing this will they let the price of gold/silver rise to the levels that they should be at before they make it illegal?
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OK, if the OP won't answer any of these maybe some of you others will. Trolls excluded.
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if you knew enough- you would already know that everything that created the boom since 2002 has been created through ridiculous fiscal policies and is predicted on the false assumption that the stimulation of debt creation = wealth creation through the illusionary increase in the value of assets...you would already know that we are about to experience the depths of the recession that we were supposed to go through in 2001 which means we'll all revisit asset ( especially crap ones like housing and equities ) values that will probably approach or go lower than 1998



I do understand this. I really do. Do we comprise 4%, maybe 8%?

And what are we getting as our remedy by these G20 proceedings? We are getting force fed more of the same, but only on a greater scale of criminalism. These same bastards have the GALL to actually print the all seeing eye on our paper currency. What do you expect from the money masters next?


You need to know that you aren't the only awake person here on this thread!
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sorry 992...I meant to quote 967-my bad!
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if you knew enough- you would already know that everything that created the boom since 2002 has been created through ridiculous fiscal policies and is predicted on the false assumption that the stimulation of debt creation = wealth creation through the illusionary increase in the value of assets...you would already know that we are about to experience the depths of the recession that we were supposed to go through in 2001 which means we'll all revisit asset ( especially crap ones like housing and equities ) values that will probably approach or go lower than 1998



I do understand this. I really do. Do we comprise 4%, maybe 8%?

And what are we getting as our remedy by these G20 proceedings? We are getting force fed more of the same, but only on a greater scale of criminalism. These same bastards have the GALL to actually print the all seeing eye on our paper currency. What do you expect from the money masters next?


You need to know that you aren't the only awake person here on this thread!



sorry 992...I meant to quote 967-my bad!
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Well, we need to keep the anonymous cowards straight! LOL!

Hell, I've been here so long, I might just as well get a handle....

The only reason I haven't is because I do the gun threads, and I don't want to take the crap that Omega does..LOL
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if you knew enough- you would already know that everything that created the boom since 2002 has been created through ridiculous fiscal policies and is predicted on the false assumption that the stimulation of debt creation = wealth creation through the illusionary increase in the value of assets...you would already know that we are about to experience the depths of the recession that we were supposed to go through in 2001 which means we'll all revisit asset ( especially crap ones like housing and equities ) values that will probably approach or go lower than 1998



I do understand this. I really do. Do we comprise 4%, maybe 8%?

And what are we getting as our remedy by these G20 proceedings? We are getting force fed more of the same, but only on a greater scale of criminalism. These same bastards have the GALL to actually print the all seeing eye on our paper currency. What do you expect from the money masters next?


You need to know that you aren't the only awake person here on this thread!



sorry 992...I meant to quote 967-my bad!
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Actually r-tard, real growth stopped way before 2002. Now go back to sleep sheeple!

naughty
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if you knew enough- you would already know that everything that created the boom since 2002 has been created through ridiculous fiscal policies and is predicted on the false assumption that the stimulation of debt creation = wealth creation through the illusionary increase in the value of assets...you would already know that we are about to experience the depths of the recession that we were supposed to go through in 2001 which means we'll all revisit asset ( especially crap ones like housing and equities ) values that will probably approach or go lower than 1998



I do understand this. I really do. Do we comprise 4%, maybe 8%?

And what are we getting as our remedy by these G20 proceedings? We are getting force fed more of the same, but only on a greater scale of criminalism. These same bastards have the GALL to actually print the all seeing eye on our paper currency. What do you expect from the money masters next?


You need to know that you aren't the only awake person here on this thread!



sorry 992...I meant to quote 967-my bad!



Actually r-tard, real growth stopped way before 2002. Now go back to sleep sheeple!

naughty
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almost lucid...what follows no growth-hmmm -maybe a contraction? recession? depression?-sounds like contradiction on your part
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The baseline growth rates used in the administration’s current budget are increasingly seen as unrealistic, and the rosy “stress scenario” that the U.S. Treasury is currently using to evaluate banks’ balance sheets becomes a source of great embarrassment.

Under this kind of pressure, and faced with the prospect of a national and global collapse, minds may become more concentrated.

The conventional wisdom among the elite is still that the current slump “cannot be as bad as the Great Depression.” This view is wrong. What we face now could, in fact, be worse than the Great Depression—because the world is now so much more interconnected and because the banking sector is now so big. We face a synchronized downturn in almost all countries, a weakening of confidence among individuals and firms, and major problems for government finances. If our leadership wakes up to the potential consequences, we may yet see dramatic action on the banking system and a breaking of the old elite. Let us hope it is not then too late.
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I have a question OP.

Are you referring to the various oligarchs in every country when you refer to "the elites?"

Or someone else?

Most here won't make a distinction.
Holy cow! It's the woowoo patrol!
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One thing you learn rather quickly when working at the International Monetary Fund is that no one is ever very happy to see you. Typically, your “clients” come in only after private capital has abandoned them, after regional trading-bloc partners have been unable to throw a strong enough lifeline, after last-ditch attempts to borrow from powerful friends like China or the European Union have fallen through. You’re never at the top of anyone’s dance card.

The reason, of course, is that the IMF specializes in telling its clients what they don’t want to hear. I should know; I pressed painful changes on many foreign officials during my time there as chief economist in 2007 and 2008. And I felt the effects of IMF pressure, at least indirectly, when I worked with governments in Eastern Europe as they struggled after 1989, and with the private sector in Asia and Latin America during the crises of the late 1990s and early 2000s. Over that time, from every vantage point, I saw firsthand the steady flow of officials—from Ukraine, Russia, Thailand, Indonesia, South Korea, and elsewhere—trudging to the fund when circumstances were dire and all else had failed.

Every crisis is different, of course. Ukraine faced hyperinflation in 1994; Russia desperately needed help when its short-term-debt rollover scheme exploded in the summer of 1998; the Indonesian rupiah plunged in 1997, nearly leveling the corporate economy; that same year, South Korea’s 30-year economic miracle ground to a halt when foreign banks suddenly refused to extend new credit.


I read this from an article the other day. cut n paste, huh?
antibs

But I must tell you, to IMF officials, all of these crises looked depressingly similar. Each country, of course, needed a loan, but more than that, each needed to make big changes so that the loan could really work. Almost always, countries in crisis need to learn to live within their means after a period of excess—exports must be increased, and imports cut—and the goal is to do this without the most horrible of recessions. Naturally, the fund’s economists spend time figuring out the policies—budget, money supply, and the like—that make sense in this context. Yet the economic solution is seldom very hard to work out.
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Will Texas succeed?



Texas has ALWAYS been successfull...

you DIPSHIT...

learn some ingrish
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TEXAS WILL SUCK SEED
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What do you personally suggest in regards to buying physical gold/silver right now and how much?
<i> I personally bought more Silver than GOLD--I store it in CANADA</i>
Do you have any inside information about the probability that the US is planning on doing this?
<i> When the dollar falters you can consider your GOLD confiscated..ONLY if you left a PAPER TRAIL.</i>
If they do plan on doing this will they let the price of gold/silver rise to the levels that they should be at?
<i> Nothing anyone can do when the collapse comes, GOLD will go up big</i>
If they decide to make gold illegal would that apply to silver as well?
<i>Not SILVER</i>
Would platinum or palladium be any safer?
<i> Will not touch it </i>
If one doesn't put their money in PMs for safe keeping what else is there?
<i> Swiss Francs, if you can afford it</i>
Sorry if some of these questions sound naive. Thanks in advance.
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Gold is getting crushed.

$868 and heading lower.

Enough said.
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To be bought.
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my friend makes a living trading stocks--he said if they go with a world currency they will drop gold cause there is not enough gold to back all the world's currency
be careful--dont put all your eggs in one basket.

Another tidbit:

In this issue of the GEAB, our researchers anticipate the different forms a US default will take at the end
of summer 2009, a US default which can no longer be concealed concealable from this April
(most taxes
are collected in April in the US) onward10. The perspective of a US default this summer is becoming
clearer as public debt is now completely out of control with skyrocketing expenses (+41%) and collapsing
tax revenues (-28%), as LEAP/E2020 anticipated more than a year ago.
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If Barack Obama
wanted to gain a historic stature, like his model Abraham Lincoln, he would declare to the world that, taking cognizance of the fact that the US is no longer capable of supporting the global monetary and financial system alone, he has decided to initiate a project to create a new international reserve currency,
inviting the world’s most important countries to join in the process. In one sentence, he would step into History, making sure that his country remains central to the next international financial system and saving
the world from a decade-long tragedy(44).

(44)This kind of option must be prepared in secret, with the collaboration of one or two trustworthy people at most, or he would never
reach the microphone.
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WOW

This may end up being my faorite threasd, best material I have seen posted in months!! First of all we have a fantastic OP who has provided a look at a report that basically tells us what is going to happen this summer!!

.....And I always wish I could see GEAB reports, but I am poor, but I am trying to warn my family ( who are wealthy)

Secondly all these guys in here saying all their crazy shit-boneheads- bwahahahahahahah fuckin hilarious--

OP thank you for sharing this valuable info=- please please post all 23 pages!!

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In recent years, frequent changes of the wording in the classification of the various components of the gold reserves of the United
States have generated a series of questions about the exact quantity of the country’s gold reserves. Their use by the ESF (Exchange
Stabilization Fund), whose interventions on the foreign exchange market in the summer of 2008, which LEAP/E2020 has already
described, is suspected to have greatly reduced the country’s gold reserves contrary to official statistics. Source: MarketOracle,
01/31/2007
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We take this opportunity to remind subscribers that our analysis and recommendations are never intended for speculation
purposes. Anyone who uses them for such purposes takes the risk any speculator should assume: losing his entire bet.
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And convert their current certificates, if any, into physical gold immediately.
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What about Canadian dollar ? safe bet ??
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I don't know about the rest of this thread, but from the OP's first tidbits, the author of whatever is uneducated.
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Life insurance policies are not texable under law...



Life insurance, a very important savings instrument and often a first choice investment for retirement, will be incapable of returning more than 3%, thus becoming an investment trap because of time and taxation
constraints. Indeed, like the other savings and investments, states will tend to increase the tax burden on them in an attempt to bail out their finances. This phenomenon will be visible in continental Europe and China in particular (where savings rates are high), but a little less in Australia, New Zealand and the rest
of Asia. In the United States and United Kingdom, it will remain low because there is little left to be taken by the State due to the absence of personal savings in recent years.
In the months to come, you should get out of savings’ products which no do not provide good returns, because soon they will not bring in anything at all - or worse. Stay liquid! After this summer and the crisis
of the international monetary system, new trends will emerge that will certainly allow new choices.


The current situation is certainly uncomfortable, but nobody ever said that going through a global
systemic crisis and losing as little as possible would be a sinecure. "
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What about Canadian dollar ? safe bet ??
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NOPE-Tied to the US buck, get rid of it..buy a farm. there's enough land up there
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What about Canadian dollar ? safe bet ??

NOPE-Tied to the US buck, get rid of it..buy a farm. there's enough land up there
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Thanks OP for all the effort and time you have put into spreading this news!!!
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Life insurance policies are not texable under law...




Life insurance, a very important savings instrument and often a first choice investment for retirement, will be incapable of returning more than 3%, thus becoming an investment trap because of time and taxation
constraints. Indeed, like the other savings and investments, states will tend to increase the tax burden on them in an attempt to bail out their finances. This phenomenon will be visible in continental Europe and China in particular (where savings rates are high), but a little less in Australia, New Zealand and the rest
of Asia. In the United States and United Kingdom, it will remain low because there is little left to be taken by the State due to the absence of personal savings in recent years.
In the months to come, you should get out of savings’ products which no do not provide good returns, because soon they will not bring in anything at all - or worse. Stay liquid! After this summer and the crisis
of the international monetary system, new trends will emerge that will certainly allow new choices.


The current situation is certainly uncomfortable, but nobody ever said that going through a global
systemic crisis and losing as little as possible would be a sinecure. "

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The law is expected to CHANGE- Taxed Insurance to come.
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One thing you learn rather quickly when working at the International Monetary Fund is that no one is ever very happy to see you. Typically, your “clients” come in only after private capital has abandoned them, after regional trading-bloc partners have been unable to throw a strong enough lifeline, after last-ditch attempts to borrow from powerful friends like China or the European Union have fallen through. You’re never at the top of anyone’s dance card.

The reason, of course, is that the IMF specializes in telling its clients what they don’t want to hear. I should know; I pressed painful changes on many foreign officials during my time there as chief economist in 2007 and 2008. And I felt the effects of IMF pressure, at least indirectly, when I worked with governments in Eastern Europe as they struggled after 1989, and with the private sector in Asia and Latin America during the crises of the late 1990s and early 2000s. Over that time, from every vantage point, I saw firsthand the steady flow of officials—from Ukraine, Russia, Thailand, Indonesia, South Korea, and elsewhere—trudging to the fund when circumstances were dire and all else had failed.

Every crisis is different, of course. Ukraine faced hyperinflation in 1994; Russia desperately needed help when its short-term-debt rollover scheme exploded in the summer of 1998; the Indonesian rupiah plunged in 1997, nearly leveling the corporate economy; that same year, South Korea’s 30-year economic miracle ground to a halt when foreign banks suddenly refused to extend new credit.

But I must tell you, to IMF officials, all of these crises looked depressingly similar. Each country, of course, needed a loan, but more than that, each needed to make big changes so that the loan could really work. Almost always, countries in crisis need to learn to live within their means after a period of excess—exports must be increased, and imports cut—and the goal is to do this without the most horrible of recessions. Naturally, the fund’s economists spend time figuring out the policies—budget, money supply, and the like—that make sense in this context. Yet the economic solution is seldom very hard to work out.
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you're either simon johnson or an Atlantic reader.

Wholesale plagerism or someone with financial chops is among us.
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[link to www.theatlantic.com]
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hoping for more,op,did you stop because the new day unpins the old??

Dont stop now.....





GLP