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Nazis are not lefties ... they are accounted to extreme right on worldwide consensus!!!

 
FreeFlow  (OP)

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04/23/2009 07:15 AM
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Re: Nazis are not lefties ... they are accounted to extreme right on worldwide consensus!!!
Go and do a google search, I got 425.000 hits for 'nazis extreme right' keywords, I didn't check but I can safely assume you won't find many sites that associate nazis with the left.

I don't know what's up with those that deny this, it appears that the US folks were duped again ...

Last Edited by FreeFlow on 04/23/2009 07:33 AM
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04/23/2009 07:38 AM
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Re: Nazis are not lefties ... they are accounted to extreme right on worldwide consensus!!!
A part of the problem in understanding the position of NAZIism in the political spectrum, is that there is a huge difference between the original National Socialism of Hitlers Germany and the Neo-NAZI movements in parts of Germany and the United States. The Neo-NAZIs are not socialist movements, but rather anti-authoritarian and racist movements that use the banner of NAZIism, because it is perceived with horror and revulsion by many people.

So they changed sides from one end of the spectrum to the other?

You can tell that to grandma, maybe she will believe you cause her hearing isn't that good anymore ...
 Quoting: FreeFlow


It seems to me that you are supposing that the NAZI of 1930-1946 Germany is the same thing and a Neo-NAZI. I get the impression that The Neo-NAZI movement are an extension of the Skinhead movements of the 1970's. They exist for racists ends only, and involve only a small number of people. The German NAZI involved the whole state. I can see how you have been confused by the terminology, and as for Grandma, well the terror she suffered who have looked the same whether it was imposed by Communists, Socialists, Royalists or Anarchists.
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04/23/2009 07:46 AM
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Re: Nazis are not lefties ... they are accounted to extreme right on worldwide consensus!!!
^^ AC633340 I have to repeat you weren't there, the stories where they were harassing mocking and mobbing everyone who was even slightly left of them are going into the thousands, no wonder they started with putting socialists communists social democrats into the camps before they were going against Jews in greater numbers.

How's that supposed to fit into a left party?
You are distracted by the word 'socialist' in their party name which meant absolutely nothing that a populist try to convince the masses of their 'benevolent' goals.
Their deeds were totally right wing and this is what counts, not a misleading label they gave themselves.

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04/23/2009 09:27 AM
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Re: Nazis are not lefties ... they are accounted to extreme right on worldwide consensus!!!
'Left wing' and 'right wing' are wings on the same 'collectivist dirty bird'. Wake up!

What the American people need is to learn the doctrine of a free will people - such as is in the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights. And a thorough indoctrination into the thoughts and writings of Thomas Paine.

Debating 'left wing' and 'right wing' is about as useless to humanity as is a debate on last year's Super Bowl.
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Eldon, I have to take objection to your self-serving inference that the authors and signers of the Declaration of Independence embraced the sort of lawless insanity you have been peddling for the last two decades.

Itís one thing for you to f*ck up Canadian history and law. . .but I take objection to an insane ignoramus such as you doing the same to America.
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04/23/2009 09:57 AM
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Re: Nazis are not lefties ... they are accounted to extreme right on worldwide consensus!!!
You're looking at this the wrong way. It's not right/left. It's freedom vs. state control.

Create a different graph and see where we fall on it. With total freedom being on the right and total tyranny on the left. Total freedom would be anarchy, right? Right after that would be a Republic. Then a democracy. Democracies ALWAYS give away more and more freedom until we have other forms such as socialism, communism or monarchy. Our democracy now is broken. We aren't truly a democracy anymore and anyone who thinks we are is just lying to him/herself.

But, once we have OLIGARCHY we are screwed until there is a total change in the population and they want freedom again. An Oligarchy isn't going to give you back your freedom. All tyrannies were just a handful of people (with usually one figurehead) totally running the show- this oligarchy could be a few elite rich people, a king, the church.
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04/23/2009 10:18 AM
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Re: Nazis are not lefties ... they are accounted to extreme right on worldwide consensus!!!
All this proves is that polarizing all political activity to a "right" and a "left" is moronic. Dualistic thinking at it's best and a wonderful illustration of it's limitations.
FreeFlow  (OP)

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04/23/2009 10:42 AM
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Re: Nazis are not lefties ... they are accounted to extreme right on worldwide consensus!!!
All this proves is that polarizing all political activity to a "right" and a "left" is moronic. Dualistic thinking at it's best and a wonderful illustration of it's limitations.
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Problem is that the far right in the US (and basically only there) dare to call the nazis lefties which I wanted to prove is totally twisted and doesn't fit according to internationally agreed definitions and terms.
It serves the sole purpose to make them look not like nazis of course.

Otherwise I agree to you and others who say political left right labels are just something the PTA let us play around with for eternal distraction ...

Last Edited by FreeFlow on 04/23/2009 10:44 AM
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FreeFlow  (OP)

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Re: Nazis are not lefties ... they are accounted to extreme right on worldwide consensus!!!
Some still haven't got it yet ...

Nazis are fascists and so set on the extreme right


No matter how hard the spinners try this is according to the worldwide definitions of far-right.
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
FreeFlow  (OP)

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Re: Nazis are not lefties ... they are accounted to extreme right on worldwide consensus!!!
Some still haven't got it yet ...

Nazis are fascists and so set on the extreme right


No matter how hard the spinners try this is according to the worldwide definitions of far-right.
 Quoting: FreeFlow

Reminder ...
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Re: Nazis are not lefties ... they are accounted to extreme right on worldwide consensus!!!
The latest spin from the right wing dept is trying to sell us nazis are lefties cause they had socialist in their name.

They were fascists and so are accounted to the far right on worldwide agreement! Also Hitler hated Marxists and liberals and had announced to wipe them off completely.

Do they think we're so easily duped or what?


National socialism was by definition leftist.

Big government
Social policies
Anti-individualism

Nationalism is not the anti-thesis of Socialism.

Proof: North Korea - heavily nationalist yet communist!
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FreeFlow  (OP)

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Re: Nazis are not lefties ... they are accounted to extreme right on worldwide consensus!!!
^^ You know that's utter BS, do you? ^^

National Socialism:
Political Position: Far Right
...
The Nazi Party is generally described as being at the extreme or far right of the left-right
...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

But you reality twisters can always try to put a new law into place that assigns them to the left by punishment if disobeyed ...

Last Edited by FreeFlow on 07/25/2009 09:42 AM
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FreeFlow  (OP)

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07/25/2009 09:51 AM
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Re: Nazis are not lefties ... they are accounted to extreme right on worldwide consensus!!!
For simplicissimuses right = good, left = bad

Sorry that's what they made you believe, do extreme right winkers hate the whole left part of their bodies?
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