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Mexican swine flu outbreak a man-made pandemic?
by redpill8 [link to www.indybay.org]
Monday Apr 27th, 2009 6:26 PM

A company that delivered contaminated vaccines with live avian flu and human flu viruses earlier this year is now to lead the charge for designing vaccines for the Mexican Swine Flu outbreak.

According the Chicago Breaking News Center Baxter International, Inc. will take a leading role in creating a vaccine for the latest outbreak:

"Deerfield-based medical product giant Baxter International Inc. is working with the World Health Organization on a potential vaccine to curb the spread of the swine flu outbreak in Mexico, the company confirmed today. Baxter, which has a growing vaccine business, has worked with foreign countries in the past to develop vaccines for the H5N1 virus commonly known as bird flu. Baxter has a cell-based technology that allows the company to more rapidly produce vaccines in the event of a pandemic than a decades-old method that uses eggs to process vaccines and can take weeks or even months longer." See "Baxter to work to contain Mexico flu outbreak"

This is a significant development due to the fact that the Baxter International, Inc., is still being investigated by the World Health Organization and the European Center for Disease Control as to why, and how, they mixed live avian flu (H5H1) viruses with a human flu (H3N2) viruses, which, had they been administered, could have set of a global pandemic earlier this year. According to authorities, this contamination could not have been a mistake due to industry and government enforced lab safety protocols designed to prevent such contamination. For instance, Baxter International adheres to something called BSL3 (Biosafety Level 3) lab safety protocols that put in place to prevent cross-contamination of materials. As explained on Wikipedia:

“Laboratory personnel have specific training in handling pathogenic and potentially lethal agents, and are supervised by competent scientists who are experienced in working with these agents. This is considered a neutral or warm zone. All procedures involving the manipulation of infectious materials are conducted within biological safety cabinets or other physical containment devices, or by personnel wearing appropriate personal protective clothing and equipment. The laboratory has special engineering and design features.”

If Baxter were following BSL3 procedures this contamination could only be explained through 1: either gross negligence or 2: willful contamination. So, why would a company that was caught recently distributing live avian and human flu vaccines, perhaps with the intent to stage a global flu pandemic, be allowed to develop a vaccine for the World Health Organization to combat the new swine flu outbreak? This defies logic and a good explanation... that is, unless logic and explanation is a bad one. For instance, we might want to contemplate that a man-made epidemic could be a useful tool to create the conditions for greater control over society by creating the appearance that a government is protecting citizens, while at the same time asking citizens to give up much of their freedoms and liberties. Also, there is the added benefit that one can make enormous profits if one has the cure. Should we immediately dismiss such unpalatable notions when in our recent history we have seen people in high places in government and industry using fear to profit from such scenarios? As Joseph Mercola writes:

"Not long ago, President Bush sought to instill panic in this country by telling us a minimum of 200,000 people will die from the avian flu pandemic, but it could be as bad as 2 million deaths in this country alone. This hoax is then used to justify the immediate purchase of 80 million doses of Tamiflu, a worthless drug that in no way shape or form treats the avian flu, but only decreases the amount of days one is sick and can actually contribute to the virus having more lethal mutations. So the U.S. placed an order for 20 million doses of this worthless drug at a price of $100 per dose. That comes to a staggering $2 billion. We are being told that Roche manufactures Tamiflu and, in a recent New York Times article, they were battling whether or not they would allow generic drug companies to help increase their production. But if you dig further you will find that a drug was actually developed by a company called Gilead that 10 years ago gave Roche the exclusive rights to market and sell Tamiflu... ...If you read the link below from Gilead, you'll discover Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was made the chairman of Gilead in 1997. Since Rumsfeld holds major portions of stock in Gilead, he will handsomely profit from the scare tactics of the government that is being used to justify the purchase of $2 billion of Tamiflu."

Rumsfeld and the Bush administration also tried to scare the population into buying and stockpiling Vistide, a vaccine to combat a disease that is virtually extinct, that is, except in labs -- smallpox. F. William Engdahl writes in the article "Tamiflu, Vistide and the Pentagon Agenda":

"The scare around smallpox and what to do was curiously similar then as it is today against Bird Flu pandemics. Defense Secretary Rumsfeld at that time ordered members of the Armed Forces to be inoculated against smallpox, an inoculation with horrendous side-effects. Rumsfeld’s smallpox package also included ordering Pentagon stockpiling of a drug named Vistide, supposedly to minimize side-effects of smallpox infection should it occur. The Bush Administration had made repeated attempts to convince the public and above all, the health and medical profession to go with mass inoculation against smallpox. In 2002 the CDC and certain high Administration officials were calling for pre-emptive smallpox inoculation of broad sectors of the population against threat of terrorists unleashing the pox. The Government began stockpiling hundreds of millions of smallpox vaccine doses."

As we know, fear sells — sells policy; sells products; sells freedoms. It even sells movies. The script from V for Vendetta sums up the motivations of a fascist elite:

"The socially-conservative and openly fascist Norsefire party led a purge to restore order; enemies of the state (Muslims, Jews, blacks, homosexuals, communists) were kidnapped by the secret police during the night. The country was divided over the loss of freedom until a bioterrorist attack occurred, killing about 80,000 people. The fear generated by the attack allowed Norsefire to silence opposition and win the next election by a landslide. A cure for the virus was discovered soon afterwards by the Norsefire company, Viadoxin. With the silent consent of the people, Norsefire turned Britain totalitarian, with their leader Adam Sutler as High Chancellor. The virus had been engineered by Norsefire as a plot to gain power, through deadly experimentation on "social deviants" and political dissidents at Larkhill detention center. V had been one of the prisoners, but instead of being killed by the experiments, he had gained heightened mental and physical abilities. V eventually destroyed the center and escaped, vowing to take revenge on Norsefire's regime." — V for Vendetta Movie Description

Are we beginning to see another example of truth mimicking fiction?
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This is so much to wrap my head around, we are raped coming and going- enough to make a nice little moms go ballistic (sp ? right word ?- IDK).

I always say that when the moms get mad - watch your ass ;)
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Daj, sometimes it seems that our daily reality IS Troll Playhouse!
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This is so much to wrap my head around, we are raped coming and going- enough to make a nice little moms go ballistic (sp ? right word ?- IDK).

I always say that when the moms get mad - watch your ass ;)
I only hope I am right- I am often wrong ( *see my voting records lol )
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More moms need to get pissed...
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Daj, sometimes it seems that our daily reality IS Troll Playhouse!
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But I keep showing up and taking a healthy piss in their cornflakes.

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Baxter, which has a growing vaccine business, has worked with foreign countries in the past to develop vaccines for the H5N1 virus commonly known as bird flu. Baxter has a cell-based technology that allows the company to more rapidly produce vaccines in the event of a pandemic than a decades-old method that uses eggs to process vaccines and can take weeks or even months longer." See "Baxter to work to contain Mexico flu outbreak"

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No defense of Baxter here, as their little 'mix-up' on the H5N1 was indefensible and quite sinister IMO.

But, their selection as maker of a vaccine may relate to this ability to use cell-based technology rather than the usual growing a vaccine in eggs. Read something lately about the difficulty of producing vaccines for Avian viruses in the usual way of culturing in eggs. Eggs come from birds, that interferes with the culture process, something along that line.

Surely someone else here knows more about this aspect. ;)

Sorry no linky. Will try to look later on for something solid.
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Baxter, which has a growing vaccine business, has worked with foreign countries in the past to develop vaccines for the H5N1 virus commonly known as bird flu. Baxter has a cell-based technology that allows the company to more rapidly produce vaccines in the event of a pandemic than a decades-old method that uses eggs to process vaccines and can take weeks or even months longer." See "Baxter to work to contain Mexico flu outbreak"



No defense of Baxter here, as their little 'mix-up' on the H5N1 was indefensible and quite sinister IMO.

But, their selection as maker of a vaccine may relate to this ability to use cell-based technology rather than the usual growing a vaccine in eggs. Read something lately about the difficulty of producing vaccines for Avian viruses in the usual way of culturing in eggs. Eggs come from birds, that interferes with the culture process, something along that line.

Surely someone else here knows more about this aspect. ;)

Sorry no linky. Will try to look later on for something solid.
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Foxes running the hen house ~ it's that way in economics, why not healthcare???

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eyup...this Baxter patent supposedly cuts the time down from about 6 months to half that....they have requested virus samples from the CDC for this one.
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Foxes running the hen house ~ it's that way in economics, why not healthcare???

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Foxes running the hen house ~ it's that way in economics, why not healthcare???



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lmao
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Rence and Deagle about baxter [link to rense.gsradio.net:8080]
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i was told about the baxter story 4/5 months ago and that there would be a pandemic....why has this post not been pinned...and this is not the 1st post on the baxter topic that was not pinned.
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[

Think this is what I saw about eggs not working for Avian flu vaccine. Simple enough, last line under the Bird Flu section:

[link to users.rcn.com]

<snip>


Bird Flu
As a glance at the tables above will show, humans have had long experience with infections and vaccines by both H1 and H3 flu viruses. But the human population has absolutely no immunity against any H5 viruses. Has the ground been prepared for another worldwide pandemic?

So far, person-to-person spread seems to account for only a few cases. Most cases seem to have been acquired from close contact with infected birds.

However, there are reports that the virus has been found in pigs. This is very troubling as simultaneous infection of a pig by a human strain could provide the opportunity for genetic reassortment between the two strains [Link] with the creation of an H5 virus able to spread rapidly between humans.


Work is going forward on an H5N1 vaccine. However, this is a virus that kills chickens so it is not surprising that it does not grow well in the eggs used for vaccine production.

* * * * * * * *

Why not put this H1N1 (weakened) in with the Flu-Mist type spray? That would seem the fastest method to get protection out to the public.

If Baxter is asking for the virus, they damned well better plan to be accountable for it.

Personally, I wouldn't trust Baxter to stir up a batch of pancake batter for my family, much less a vaccine.
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baxter is mentioned in this vid, it is so worth a watch. first page, second vid. get educated people.
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This is so much to wrap my head around, we are raped coming and going- enough to make a nice little moms go ballistic (sp ? right word ?- IDK).

I always say that when the moms get mad - watch your ass ;)
I only hope I am right- I am often wrong ( *see my voting records lol )
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the part about mad moms is for real, it's the mother bear thing, nothing is more ferocious. mess with me, ok, might get away with it, mess with my kids, i'll rip their throats out.(done and done)
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i was told about the baxter story 4/5 months ago and that there would be a pandemic....why has this post not been pinned...and this is not the 1st post on the baxter topic that was not pinned.
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this should be pinned. i think trinity is just trying to cope with it all, he is pinning some lame shit, just muddies the water.
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Thread WAS pinned earlier in the day, was unpinned when I came back later. ??????

Update: and is pinned again now.

Last Edited by locomotion on 04/30/2009 05:46 PM
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duh, this is pinned. i'm burnt out already from all the data. glad he unpinned the chemtrail and flu thread. this thing is moving so fast i can imagine how it must be at pin central right now.
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Rence and Deagle about baxter [link to rense.gsradio.net:8080]
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If link won't load go to FREE MP3 test drive enter and select Hour 1 - Dr. Bill Deagle, - MD The Baxter H5N1 'Mistake' [link to www.rense.com]

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Foxes running the hen house ~ it's that way in economics, why not healthcare???



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chemtrail flu is still pinned, duh again. i really don't think this is from chemtrails, something is up with chemtrails, but they really have become a catch all, and that is something really not needed right now because there is so much confusion already. and the deniers are about feral now anyway...we need facts, data and practical stuff.
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More stellar recommendations for Baxter...

Lawsuit Charges Baxter Used Dangerous Ingredients In Vaccines To Increase Profits


Questions remain over company chosen to develop swine flu vaccine
[link to www.prisonplanet.com]
Steve Watson
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Thursday, April 30, 2009

Lawsuit Charges Baxter Used Dangerous Ingredients In Vaccines To Increase Profits

A scandal dating from January 2008, that is continuing to unfold, raises more disturbing questions over the safety of U.S. pharmaceutical company Baxter International’s vaccines.

Last year Baxter recalled almost all of its injections of the blood thinning heparin drug in the US after some patients experienced extreme - and in some cases fatal - allergic reactions, after being administered the products.

There were similar recalls by other manufacturers of Chinese-sourced heparin in Denmark, Italy, France Germany and Japan, but initial investigations found that only Baxter’s heparin vaccines were tainted.

The FDA has accused two Chinese manufacturers of being responsible for the production and shipment of the tainted vaccines, suggesting that a cheaper synthetic heparin mimic, subsequently identified as over-sulfated chondroitin sulfate (OSCS), was used to decrease costs.

However, in January 2009 a new lawsuit was filed specifically against Baxter for it’s role in the scandal.

The allegation is that the pharmaceutical giant purposefully altered an ingredient in heparin that flowed through heparin syringes to patients, resulting in pain and suffering, and sometimes death,
to those affected, reported legal website Lawyers and Settlements

Somewhat ironically, the natural ingredient in heparin that was substituted in order to cut costs was a substance extracted from cooked swine intestines.

The lawsuit notes that OSCS is not found in nature, and is not approved in the United States. It accuses Baxter of using a more dangerous ingredient to “reap greater profits as a result of utilizing cheap component parts.” More at posted link...
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What GREAT timing!

kind of like the FEMA responders arriving in NYC 9/10/01.


[link to www.novavax.com]

In Summary:

Finally, the structure of the HA and NA proteins and the way in which they are embedded in
lipids on the surface of the VLP may activate the innate immune system providing protection
against both the H1N1 and H5N1 strains,” said Dr. Heaton.


Announced on April 14, 2009
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chemtrail flu is still pinned, duh again. i really don't think this is from chemtrails, something is up with chemtrails, but they really have become a catch all, and that is something really not needed right now because there is so much confusion already. and the deniers are about feral now anyway...we need facts, data and practical stuff.
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Steve Quale mentioned a genetic contaminate link !
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What GREAT timing!

kind of like the FEMA responders arriving in NYC 9/10/01.


[link to www.novavax.com]

In Summary:

Finally, the structure of the HA and NA proteins and the way in which they are embedded in
lipids on the surface of the VLP may activate the innate immune system providing protection
against both the H1N1 and H5N1 strains,” said Dr. Heaton.


Announced on April 14, 2009
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Like I said, not even pancake batter....GOK what they would substitute for the whole wheat flour! (oooh, this plaster is MUCH cheaper! doh)
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Like I said, not even pancake batter....GOK what they would substitute for the whole wheat flour! (oooh, this plaster is MUCH cheaper! doh)
 Quoting: locomotion


It's all about the almighty profit ~ even when there's some trust involved, there is little to no conscience these days.
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There was a post on GLP of a guy that attended a meeting of Elders in Mexico, the reference was to Eat Your Snot if Infected.

Your Nasal Drainage would make a nice Flu Virus to the Uninfected as it would work just as a live Virus innoculation.

Time to get Infected Peeps and Auction your Snot Capsules On E-Bay
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the flu is just the flu. But what the government does with the powers they'll get by going to level 6 and then very probably martial law is what this is all about. Control. The government needs to control the public that is becoming very aware of the corruption in wallstreet and the usa government. Set up by the unseen banksters.
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Like I said, not even pancake batter....GOK what they would substitute for the whole wheat flour! (oooh, this plaster is MUCH cheaper! doh)


It's all about the almighty profit ~ even when there's some trust involved, there is little to no conscience these days.
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i seriously think we'd all be better off if they shut wall street down. And brake up the corporations that run everything. Get rid of monopolys totally. A limit to how big a corporation can be. And a limit of what anyone can have an interest in that corporation or company. Break up the corporations..

Open it wide open to small buisness that would flourish and advance the world like you wouldn't beleive.





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