Question about an antique rifle

Wanting to buy an 1895 Winchester, does it need to be registered?

I'm used to buying newer guns. BTW,I'm in IL.(Yeah,yeah a gun grabber state)

Any help would be nice.

I'm so proud of myself i just bought a handgun that is illegal in California.

Says so right on the case.

If it was actually built in 1895, then it qualifies as a "Curio and Relic" firearm, and as such, is exempt from most federal restrictions.

Wanting to buy an 1895 Winchester, does it need to be registered?

I'm used to buying newer guns. BTW,I'm in IL.(Yeah,yeah a gun grabber state)

Any help would be nice.

Are you talking about the Model 1894 top-eject .30-.30 rifle?

I don't know if your state has any such laws, but there's no registration of guns (including handguns) in Arizona, although, if you buy from a dealer (as opposed to from an individual) you have to go through Uncle Pig's instant background check.

Wanting to buy an 1895 Winchester, does it need to be registered?

I'm used to buying newer guns. BTW,I'm in IL.(Yeah,yeah a gun grabber state)

Any help would be nice.

Are you talking about the Model 1894 top-eject .30-.30 rifle?

I don't know if your state has any such laws, but there's no registration of guns (including handguns) in Arizona, although, if you buy from a dealer (as opposed to from an individual) you have to go through Uncle Pig's instant background check.

1895 .30-.06

Wanting to buy an 1895 Winchester, does it need to be registered?

I'm used to buying newer guns. BTW,I'm in IL.(Yeah,yeah a gun grabber state)

Any help would be nice.

Are you talking about the Model 1894 top-eject .30-.30 rifle?

I don't know if your state has any such laws, but there's no registration of guns (including handguns) in Arizona, although, if you buy from a dealer (as opposed to from an individual) you have to go through Uncle Pig's instant background check.

1895 .30-.06


You may not be getting what you think.

The .30-'06 Springfield cartridge was introduced in 1906 (which is why it's called the "'06").

It's still in use today, and is probably the best big game cartridge for North American game, including elk and Moose (however, I would certainly not go after a grizzly bear with it. Actually, I wouldn't go after a grizzly bear at all, thank you very much.

The .30-'06 Springfield is not quite as accurate as the .308 cartridge, but in the hands of a good rifleman, you will be able to reliably shoot a man- or deer-size target with a "kill shot" just about every time.

Here is a pre 1899 guns faq....no paperwork unless your state requires it....

[link to www.rawles.to]

Winchester did make a Model 1895. It was a box magazine fed, lever action. They were produced until about 1931, in several different calibers.

[link to www.rarewinchesters.com]

Check it out!:

"Winchester 1895 Short Rifle/Carbine .30-06 s/n 398779 mfg 1920 - 24" round barrel; carbine buttstock, forend and hand guard w/o sight cutout; Lyman 41 receiver sight & high ramp front sight. 99% bright blue finish remain; oil finished walnut stocks remain in excellent like-new condition. Gun was originally the property of the government of Monaco and used by their guards in that country."

How can that be -- a Model 1895 firing a cartridge developed eleven years later?

The only thing I can think of was that this Model 1895 was manufactured in 1920, by which time the Springfield cartridge had been out fourteen years and certainly well proven in World War I.

My guess is that your rifle is a model 1895 (i.e., the rifle designed in 1895), but actually manufactured in a different chambering 25 years later.

So the rifle information you provided me is undoubtedly right; but, if what Brother Malu says is correct, it would not be an "antique" so it'd be subject to Uncle Pig's rulez-'n'-regulationz.

Malu, does that sound right?

If it was actually built in 1895, then it qualifies as a "Curio and Relic" firearm, and as such, is exempt from most federal restrictions.

If it was actually built in 1895, then it qualifies as a "Curio and Relic" firearm, and as such, is exempt from most federal restrictions.



Hi Evil,
What about a Winchester 1912 20 Ga?i bought from an old friend a few years ago for $300.00,would it be a Relic or curio?


Firefly

If it was actually built in 1895, then it qualifies as a "Curio and Relic" firearm, and as such, is exempt from most federal restrictions.



Hi Evil,
What about a Winchester 1912 20 Ga?i bought from an old friend a few years ago for $300.00,would it be a Relic or curio?


Firefly

I wasn't sure, so I just looked up the regulations again, and found this:

Updated: 1/05/09

Firearms automatically attain curio or relic (C&R) status when they are 50 years old. Any firearm that is at least 50 years old, and in its original configuration, would qualify as a C&R firearm. It is not necessary for such firearms to be listed in ATF’s C&R list. However, if your C&R item is regulated under the National Firearms Act (NFA) and you desire removal from the provisions of the NFA, you must submit the firearm to the Firearms Technology Branch for evaluation and a formal classification.

[link to www.atf.gov]

ETA: The National Firearms Act doesn't apply to your shotgun, unless its barrel is less than 18" long.