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Problem with pathological liar

 
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funny you should mention that...some of my co-workers had mentioned back then that I had a soap opera life and that I should make a movie about my life with him...lol
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Yep. Since you have to keep records of all of it anyhow, and if you have to protect yourself from unfounded allegations, it might help if every time he did something you could think, "This will really make that book interesting!"

I have an idea about making a website about my husband's voice-mail messages. He gets the most insane messages from people he has lied-to.
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resolve it. get this person out of your life immediately.
is that not totally clear?
i don't care who they are, people like these only drag you and everyone around them down.
hell with them. close the door and never go back.
that's the only answer.
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its in the air........its everywhere.......some lie to spare feelings ....some just lie cause they have no feelings of thier own

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Its sad really.
Compulsive liars usually have serious emotional problems and/or personality disorders.
Although they might admit they have a problem, only they can help themselves, and that is the hard part them getting help and realizing they need it.
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funny you should mention that...some of my co-workers had mentioned back then that I had a soap opera life and that I should make a movie about my life with him...lol


Yep. Since you have to keep records of all of it anyhow, and if you have to protect yourself from unfounded allegations, it might help if every time he did something you could think, "This will really make that book interesting!"

I have an idea about making a website about my husband's voice-mail messages. He gets the most insane messages from people he has lied-to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 640562

omg...I have had people call me because he gave them my number for his contact number, wanting to know where he is because he just scammed them out of money by pretending to own a trailer in a mobile home park and renting it out to them!!!

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"Livin' The Dream..."

"Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more"

"So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..."

"Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..."

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resolve it. get this person out of your life immediately.
is that not totally clear?
i don't care who they are, people like these only drag you and everyone around them down.
hell with them. close the door and never go back.
that's the only answer.






its in the air........its everywhere.......some lie to spare feelings ....some just lie cause they have no feelings of thier own
 Quoting: Ladën x Lou

I believe they have no feelings of their own...
"Livin' The Dream..."

"Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more"

"So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..."

"Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..."

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Besides the obvious, is there any way for this person to change?

The lying is so ingrained that he might not be able to stop, its the dramatic reaction, I'm hoping that he could just accept it when he gets caught. Yes I know he probably needs an "excuse" to go nuts and probably sets himself up for it??

Anyhow, besides the obvious is there any way to force him to change the way he reacts, to make him accept the fact that he is a liar and take it like a man when he gets caught?


A question .. are you that person .. ??


Ha ha-no I lie occasionally, but I'm not that good at it.
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He even had me convinced that my family was the cause of his problems...he was on probation from FL when I met him(but I didnt know it at the time) and we got into a fight and the cops were called and he went to jail, and Fl extridited him back, and he thus convinced me my family was the cause, so I cut all ties for seven years (until I realised they had nothing to do with it), but the sad thing is that my father passed away during that time and I never knew it...that is one of the reasons why I now hate him so much...do not let this person do to you what has happened to me...

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"Livin' The Dream..."

"Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more"

"So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..."

"Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..."

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That was a good article. I'm going-with the source being "organic" as-in some kind-of brain anomaly.
It may be treatable, but if it isn't treated, like I said there is bad deterioration, and escalation to other problems like violence.
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05/04/2009 10:37 AM
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[link to www.jaapl.org]

That was a good article. I'm going-with the source being "organic" as-in some kind-of brain anomaly.
It may be treatable, but if it isn't treated, like I said there is bad deterioration, and escalation to other problems like violence.
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bookmarked it for reading later today...
"Livin' The Dream..."

"Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more"

"So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..."

"Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..."

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He even had me convinced that my family was the cause of his problems...he was on probation from FL when I met him(but I didnt know it at the time) and we got into a fight and the cops were called and he went to jail, and Fl extridited him back, and he thus convinced me my family was the cause, so I cut all ties for seven years (until I realised they had nothing to do with it), but the sad thing is that my father passed away during that time and I never knew it...that is one of the reasons why I now hate him so much...do not let this person do to you what has happened to me...
 Quoting: refugee13


I'm sure he liked telling you and himself that someone else was the cause of his problems! That's why I am sure of the fact that he will try to convince your child that you "kept him from her."
At least when she realizes it she will know that you protected her as best as you could.
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My husband tried to play both ends with my family cause he knew he couldn't isolate me from them.
He would blame them for his problems, the tell them that I caused his problems!
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My husband tried to play both ends with my family cause he knew he couldn't isolate me from them.
He would blame them for his problems, the tell them that I caused his problems!
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that's what mine did with his side of the family...always keeping us mad at each other so we didn't communicate and find out the truth...
"Livin' The Dream..."

"Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more"

"So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..."

"Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..."

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They really do try to keep people from communicating.
This story about me being hit by a car came from someone who was 3000 miles away, so he probably thought I'd never find-out.
He really lost it when he found-out that two of his friends talked to each-other.
Ladën x Lou

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Funny you should mention that...some of my co-workers had mentioned back then that I had a soap opera life and that I should make a movie about my life with him...lol


Yep. Since you have to keep records of all of it anyhow, and if you have to protect yourself from unfounded allegations, it might help if every time he did something you could think, "This will really make that book interesting!"

I have an idea about making a website about my husband's voice-mail messages. He gets the most insane messages from people he has lied-to.

omg...I have had people call me because he gave them my number for his contact number, wanting to know where he is because he just scammed them out of money by pretending to own a trailer in a mobile home park and renting it out to them!!!
 Quoting: refugee13



Oh crap ....Never trust white trash...I'm sure in his mind its a lovely trailor park.......
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
~ Dr. Seuss
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He even had me convinced that my family was the cause of his problems...he was on probation from FL when I met him(but I didnt know it at the time) and we got into a fight and the cops were called and he went to jail, and Fl extridited him back, and he thus convinced me my family was the cause, so I cut all ties for seven years (until I realised they had nothing to do with it), but the sad thing is that my father passed away during that time and I never knew it...that is one of the reasons why I now hate him so much...do not let this person do to you what has happened to me...


I'm sure he liked telling you and himself that someone else was the cause of his problems! That's why I am sure of the fact that he will try to convince your child that you "kept him from her."
At least when she realizes it she will know that you protected her as best as you could.
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I sure hope so...she already has caught him in a couple of lies and hopefully she will realize it on her own...I am not badmouthing him to her, I figure he will do that on his own...
"Livin' The Dream..."

"Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more"

"So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..."

"Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..."

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They really do try to keep people from communicating.
This story about me being hit by a car came from someone who was 3000 miles away, so he probably thought I'd never find-out.
He really lost it when he found-out that two of his friends talked to each-other.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 640562

been there!!!
"Livin' The Dream..."

"Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more"

"So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..."

"Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..."

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When he found-out that my family caught-on to him, he insisted that they had "done something" to him.
I (wasted my time), waiting for him to get-it that it was his problem.
He finally admitted it, but who knows if he was just saying that because it was what I wanted to hear?
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Funny you should mention that...some of my co-workers had mentioned back then that I had a soap opera life and that I should make a movie about my life with him...lol


Yep. Since you have to keep records of all of it anyhow, and if you have to protect yourself from unfounded allegations, it might help if every time he did something you could think, "This will really make that book interesting!"

I have an idea about making a website about my husband's voice-mail messages. He gets the most insane messages from people he has lied-to.

omg...I have had people call me because he gave them my number for his contact number, wanting to know where he is because he just scammed them out of money by pretending to own a trailer in a mobile home park and renting it out to them!!!



Oh crap ....Never trust white trash...I'm sure in his mind its a lovely trailor park.......
 Quoting: Ladën x Lou

omg...those people were so pissed when I told them that he didn't own any trailer...they had given him several hundred dollars and were trying to move in, and had been waiting for him to show up with the keys...I told them to get in line behind everyone else he had conned...
"Livin' The Dream..."

"Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more"

"So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..."

"Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..."

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Yes children do understand, but it is hard because they want to believe and also they are afraid to confront the liar.
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[link to www.jaapl.org]

That was a good article. I'm going-with the source being "organic" as-in some kind-of brain anomaly.
It may be treatable, but if it isn't treated, like I said there is bad deterioration, and escalation to other problems like violence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 640562

Everything we are - IS the brain. The body is the manifestation of what that brain is doing. We know the parameters of "normal", and so, we can detect problems. How far we allow problems to affect OUR lives depends on the individual. I loved a woman who was bi-polar. Inwardly she was a good person; I could "see" it. However, she refused to take her meds, she drank (ahh yes, feed a depression with depressives) and it was NOT going to work. I had to go. It wasn't going to work.
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I get calls from his debt collectors all day long!
I finally decided to start telling them that the person they are calling-about is three years old. (yes, I get it-I told a whopper).
I was torn between giving his number to scum and helping them, or getting those calls.
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I get calls from his debt collectors all day long!
I finally decided to start telling them that the person they are calling-about is three years old. (yes, I get it-I told a whopper).
I was torn between giving his number to scum and helping them, or getting those calls.
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As I said, How far we allow problems to affect OUR lives depends on the individual.
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Everything we are - IS the brain. The body is the manifestation of what that brain is doing. We know the parameters of "normal", and so, we can detect problems. How far we allow problems to affect OUR lives depends on the individual. I loved a woman who was bi-polar. Inwardly she was a good person; I could "see" it. However, she refused to take her meds, she drank (ahh yes, feed a depression with depressives) and it was NOT going to work. I had to go. It wasn't going to work.
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Bi-polar is one thing that they have made progress on.
The difference between a personality disorder & mental illness is that mental illness seems to be helped by the right meds.
The trouble is figuring-out what it is.
My husband had tried every drug he could get his hands-on. But most have not been prescribed for him.
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I get calls from his debt collectors all day long!
I finally decided to start telling them that the person they are calling-about is three years old. (yes, I get it-I told a whopper).
I was torn between giving his number to scum and helping them, or getting those calls.
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I just got a letter about a week ago from the courts (yes he still uses my address) that said he had five days to pay the charges he accrued for being in jail, or they were going to issue an arrest warrant...I filed it away with the rest of the letters and hope he goes to jail...I'll call and see if the warrant has been issued, then tell them who his PO officer is and where he has to report...
"Livin' The Dream..."

"Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more"

"So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..."

"Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..."

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I get calls from his debt collectors all day long!
I finally decided to start telling them that the person they are calling-about is three years old. (yes, I get it-I told a whopper).
I was torn between giving his number to scum and helping them, or getting those calls.

As I said, How far we allow problems to affect OUR lives depends on the individual.
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Oh well, that's for sure! I'm gonna go wash him out of my hair. Even thinking about him makes me feel like taking a shower.
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I get calls from his debt collectors all day long!
I finally decided to start telling them that the person they are calling-about is three years old. (yes, I get it-I told a whopper).
I was torn between giving his number to scum and helping them, or getting those calls.

As I said, How far we allow problems to affect OUR lives depends on the individual.



Oh well, that's for sure! I'm gonna go wash him out of my hair. Even thinking about him makes me feel like taking a shower.
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Then watch for the next problem - he whines (lies) and you fall for it.
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I get calls from his debt collectors all day long!
I finally decided to start telling them that the person they are calling-about is three years old. (yes, I get it-I told a whopper).
I was torn between giving his number to scum and helping them, or getting those calls.

As I said, How far we allow problems to affect OUR lives depends on the individual.



Oh well, that's for sure! I'm gonna go wash him out of my hair. Even thinking about him makes me feel like taking a shower.

Then watch for the next problem - he whines (lies) and you fall for it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 660574

I made that mistake...be strong!!! hf
"Livin' The Dream..."

"Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more"

"So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..."

"Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..."

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So my thing has always been with this person, "I know that you are a liar, but its how you react when you get caught lying that is worse than the lies." Is there any way to resolve this??
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Have nothing to do with the person, cut them off, ignore them, avoid them. If everyone knows the person lives in a fantasy world, why do you worry anyway.

It sounds to me as though you enjoy and thrive on the attention, as much as the twister does!

Answer a fool according to his folly, or he will be wise in his own eyes. - Bible, Proverbs 26:4
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So my thing has always been with this person, "I know that you are a liar, but its how you react when you get caught lying that is worse than the lies." Is there any way to resolve this??


Have nothing to do with the person, cut them off, ignore them, avoid them. If everyone knows the person lives in a fantasy world, why do you worry anyway.

It sounds to me as though you enjoy and thrive on the attention, as much as the twister does!

Answer a fool according to his folly, or he will be wise in his own eyes. - Bible, Proverbs 26:4
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unless you have been in this situation, it is really hard to understand standing on the outside...
"Livin' The Dream..."

"Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more"

"So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..."

"Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..."

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Read....Men That Hate Women and the Women who love them

[link to www.primal-page.com]

This really helps women stop being a victim to mysogynists, liars and borderline personality males.

If my daughter ever gets hell bent on meeting her father (though I doubt he will agree....or only will to alienate her from me)...I would insist she wait until over 16 and to make her read that....so she doesnt fall victim to him.

Sometimes I feel that these guys should have something tattoed on their foreheads so women are warned.....other times I wish a Star Chamber existed.....to OFF them so they wont be a danger to anyones heart anymore.

I really do hope he passes away before she gets old enough....it would be nice to tell her just about the few redeeming qualities instead of needing to protect her from the bad.

I think the moment of realisation that he had no conscience was when he saw a blind man in a wheelchair...his dogs leash got loose from his hand and a lorry ran over the dog. The man was beside himself with grief. Ex stood by and cracked up laughing, let someone else scrape the remains off the tarmac....and laughed again as he told me about it later. He couldnt even understand that I couldnt see a funny side to the story. If it was a lie...I couldnt believe that anyone would say something like that.





GLP