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I now agree.. the moon landing was faked.

 
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Lol I love when tards bump 12 year old threads
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"29) If debris from the Apollo missions was left on the Moon, then it would be visible today through a powerful telescope, however no such debris can be seen. The Clementine probe that recently maps the Moons surface failed to show any Apollo artefacts left by Man during the missions. Where did the Moon Buggy and base of the LEM go?"

i´ve always wondered about this one...
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Landing on the moon...It is funny how people are gullible and dumb..exceptionally so indeed.

But hey..kudos for the greatest swindle in history.
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WTF!

The facts are hard to argue
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That would require one to actually know any facts.

most notably the lack of any sort of protection
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3 g/cm^2 is NOT nothing.

against the massive amount of radiation the astronauts would have taken in by the Van Allen radiation belt
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Massive is not a number.

HOW MUCH radiation (and of what types, and for how long) was there and HOW MUCH shielding would have been required?
Without knowing BOTH quantities you are just pulling stuff out of your arse.

not to mention outer space itself.
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Are you telling us all space travel is impossible?

Just for a simple dental x-ray we are fitted with heavy lead suits..
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There are no dentists in space.

There are different types of radiation.
Since Earth's magnetic field doesn't stop EM radiation the x-ray fluxes beyond the Belts are exactly the same as they are in LEO.
So you ARE claiming all space travel is impossible?

explain to me how their lightweight suits and shuttles could have protected them and their camera film from the radiation,
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Asking questions only tells us that there is stuff you don't know or understand..
Not knowing stuff well never be proof of anything.

and how they could have been changing camera film out on the moon where temperatures range from -100 in the shade to 200 degrees in the sun?
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What part of the vacuum of space had these temperatures?

Good site for the facts....

[link to www.ufos-aliens.co.uk]
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LOL
So more Points Refuted A Thousand Times.

Half a century later and hoaxies still got nothing.
They don't even know what they are talking about.
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Landing on the moon...It is funny how people are gullible and dumb..exceptionally so indeed.

But hey..kudos for the greatest swindle in history.
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Idioot.

The only credioloids here are those who believe that the hoaxtards have any clue about reality.
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ofcourse its faked, why do you think russians never went to the moon, or for that matter anyone else
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yup that does it for me, why is it NO other country in the world has gone to the moon?
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Apollo 11 Moon Landing Site Seen in Unprecedented Detail

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The theoretical resolving power of a telescope, measured in arc seconds, is calculated by dividing the aperture of the telescope (in inches) into 4.56. The largest telescope on Earth is the 10-meter Keck telescope in Hawaii. The theoretical resolving power of this telescope is 0.012", however the Earth´s atmosphere limits the resolving power of any ground-based telescope to about 0.5"-1.0". The Hubble Space Telescope does not suffer from this limitation; thus, with an aperture of 94 inches, HST´s resolving power is 0.05". At the Earth-Moon distance of 239,000 miles, the smallest object that can be resolved by HST is about 300 feet. The largest dimension of any hardware left behind on the Moon is 31 feet, which is the diagonal distance across the LM´s footpads. No telescope, presently in existence, can see the Apollo hardware from Earth.
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Wouldn't anything on the hardware be significantly more reflective than the Moon's natural surface, and create a distinguishable bright spot?
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ofcourse its faked, why do you think russians never went to the moon, or for that matter anyone else
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yup that does it for me, why is it NO other country in the world has gone to the moon?
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China landed on the Moon in 2013 - the pictures they took are so fake, no one talks about it.



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ofcourse its faked, why do you think russians never went to the moon, or for that matter anyone else
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yup that does it for me, why is it NO other country in the world has gone to the moon?
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Russia tried but couldn't get their heavy-lifting rocket to work.
No other country has yet had the infrastructure to attempt it.
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One of the keys to unmasking a hoax is to unmask a "sister" hoax. That is, if a similar hoax is obviously a hoax, then in all probability the main event was hoaxed.

A good example of this is the jfk hoax (the main event) and the Oswald-Ruby sister hoax. Unquestionably the shooting of Oswald by Ruby was a hoax. Therefore, in all probability the shooting of jfk was a hoax. In actuality the entire Kennedy family was a hoax, a Hollywierd paste-up.

Similarly we have the Lindberg trans-Atlantic flight and Apollo. Again, unquestionably the Lindberg flight was a hoax. Indeed, everything about the Lindbergs is a hoax easily understood by looking at his wife's family.

Perhaps rather than seeking absolutes, reality is best gained through high probabilities and preponderance of evidence.
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The Apollo missions returned 382 kilograms of rock, and there is one thing that is absolutely clear: they are not from Earth. The oldest Apollo rocks, for example, are 4.44 billion years old, and thus were formed about 640 million years before the oldest rocks found on Earth. Remember the Earth is geologicaly active.
There would be no way of faking these rocks. Stuffing the right elements into minerals, so they appear to be ancient, simply cannot be done. It is a case of the round hole and the square peg. Only if the peg starts off round and through billions of years of radioactive decay ends up square, by turning itself into another element, can it make it into the mineral.
Perhaps then the Apollo samples really are not Earth rocks at all, but some rare meteorite cleverly adopted by NASA? However, the oxygen they contain is very different from known meteorites, except those from the moon, and similar to that of the Earth. Only if the Apollo rocks come from an object that formed at a similar distance from the Earth as the early sun could this be explained. The moon is, of course, the prime candidate.
Conspiracy theories are unfortunately such attractive notions to the human psyche that scientific evidence, however elegant, often fails to impress. There is, though, one final piece of evidence. Although the Russians never put a cosmonaut on the moon, they landed the Luna probes, which returned 100 grams of lunar soil. They are identical to the Apollo samples. Case dismissed.
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wrong.


they nasa people did infact scout antartica looking for rocks from the moon before first landing.

they collected shitloads.
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Apollo 11 Moon Landing Site Seen in Unprecedented Detail

[link to www.space.com (secure)]



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a smudge.

unprecedented detail lol
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I wonder If the people back in 2005 ever thought that Trump would be their president?

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The facts are hard to argue, most notably the lack of any sort of protection against the massive amount of radiation the astronauts would have taken in by the Van Allen radiation belt not to mention outer space itself. Just for a simple dental x-ray we are fitted with heavy lead suits.. explain to me how their lightweight suits and shuttles could have protected them and their camera film from the radiation, and how they could have been changing camera film out on the moon where temperatures range from -100 in the shade to 200 degrees in the sun?

Good site for the facts....

[link to www.ufos-aliens.co.uk]
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Apparently they went around the Van Allen belts lol.
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It's laughable how those who either want to believe in the US going to the moon, or those that are paid to make people believe the US went to the moon, come up with the 'right' stuff - all the time. They drove the apollo capsule around the van allen belts or just the edge or just a layer of plastic was enough protection or the belts no longer existed, whatever the case may be, nasa sent a rocket with a dog into the belts in 1968 to verify what would happen in the belts. Whatever you want to think about the US going to the moon, the dog came back like some of the Russian crispy critters that went into high orbit and were fried into charcoal.

If the US went to the moon, it was not with Apollo space craft.
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NASA in recent years discovered another radiation belt between earth and the moon.
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How was the moon buggy able to drive around bouncing about and changing direction but still able to transmit any kind of viewable picture you can see it bouncing around all over the shop in this vid and the aerial doesn't move.

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The Apollo missions returned 382 kilograms of rock, and there is one thing that is absolutely clear: they are not from Earth. The oldest Apollo rocks, for example, are 4.44 billion years old, and thus were formed about 640 million years before the oldest rocks found on Earth. Remember the Earth is geologicaly active.
There would be no way of faking these rocks. Stuffing the right elements into minerals, so they appear to be ancient, simply cannot be done. It is a case of the round hole and the square peg. Only if the peg starts off round and through billions of years of radioactive decay ends up square, by turning itself into another element, can it make it into the mineral.
Perhaps then the Apollo samples really are not Earth rocks at all, but some rare meteorite cleverly adopted by NASA? However, the oxygen they contain is very different from known meteorites, except those from the moon, and similar to that of the Earth. Only if the Apollo rocks come from an object that formed at a similar distance from the Earth as the early sun could this be explained. The moon is, of course, the prime candidate.
Conspiracy theories are unfortunately such attractive notions to the human psyche that scientific evidence, however elegant, often fails to impress. There is, though, one final piece of evidence. Although the Russians never put a cosmonaut on the moon, they landed the Luna probes, which returned 100 grams of lunar soil. They are identical to the Apollo samples. Case dismissed.
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wrong.


they nasa people did infact scout antartica looking for rocks from the moon before first landing.

they collected shitloads.
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Wrong. they went to Antarctica but not to scout for rocks. (who takes rocket scientists to look for rocks?) It wasn't even known that Antarctica was a good place to look for meteorites from the Moon until well AFTER Apollo. And you would have no geologist EVER that would mistake a meteorite that has signs of atmospheric reentry and subsequent water contamination with a rock picked up from the Moon with neither.
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The facts are hard to argue, most notably the lack of any sort of protection against the massive amount of radiation the astronauts would have taken in by the Van Allen radiation belt not to mention outer space itself. Just for a simple dental x-ray we are fitted with heavy lead suits.. explain to me how their lightweight suits and shuttles could have protected them and their camera film from the radiation, and how they could have been changing camera film out on the moon where temperatures range from -100 in the shade to 200 degrees in the sun?

Good site for the facts....

[link to www.ufos-aliens.co.uk]
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Uhhhh... I've never been given a lead suit for a dental x-ray. Wouldn't it be hard for the x-ray to see my teeth through the lead?
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The facts are hard to argue, most notably the lack of any sort of protection against the massive amount of radiation the astronauts would have taken in by the Van Allen radiation belt not to mention outer space itself. Just for a simple dental x-ray we are fitted with heavy lead suits.. explain to me how their lightweight suits and shuttles could have protected them and their camera film from the radiation, and how they could have been changing camera film out on the moon where temperatures range from -100 in the shade to 200 degrees in the sun?

Good site for the facts....

[link to www.ufos-aliens.co.uk]
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Uhhhh... I've never been given a lead suit for a dental x-ray. Wouldn't it be hard for the x-ray to see my teeth through the lead?
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They only give you a lead apron because there is a LEGAL limit for how much x-rays you can be exposed to and your dentist doesn't know your history outside the office. One or two x-rays a year by themselves won't hurt you.

Plus the radiation from the belts is different. It is primarily charged particle radiation which is easier to block.

and the temperatures quoted are the min and max of the SURFACE of the Moon. Not only does it take time to reach both of those (and they weren't there during the times of min or max) the cameras never came into contact with the surface.
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I wonder If the people back in 2005 ever thought that Trump would be their president?

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One thing for sure is we never dreamed of the Otard nightmare we just can't seem to wake up from even with Trump as president.

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Apollo 11 Moon Landing Site Seen in Unprecedented Detail

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a smudge.

unprecedented detail lol
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English not your first language?

Unprecedented - never done before

100% accurate

Sorry you don't understand science.

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they nasa people did infact scout antartica looking for rocks from the moon before first landing.
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Wrong.

Back then it wasn't known that there were lunites to be found on Antarctica.

they collected shitloads.
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Presumes facts not in evidence.

Anyhoo, only the most retarded retard wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a meteorite and a pristine moon rock.
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How was the moon buggy able to drive around bouncing about and changing direction but still able to transmit any kind of viewable picture you can see it bouncing around all over the shop in this vid and the aerial doesn't move.


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Those are film recordings.
There were only live-TV broadcasts when the LRV was stationary.
Using the TV-camera you see right in front.
(For example at 3:15)

Why do you need to ask?
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whatever the case may be, nasa sent a rocket with a dog into the belts in 1968 to verify what would happen in the belts. Whatever you want to think about the US going to the moon, the dog came back like some of the Russian crispy critters that went into high orbit and were fried into charcoal.
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Why do hoaxies lie all the time?

Is it because they know the truth is not on their side?
Is it because they are themselves disinfo victims?
Is it because they suffer from dementia trollitus?

The hell why?
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ofcourse its faked, why do you think russians never went to the moon, or for that matter anyone else
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who cares about the protection really. that would mean id also have to believe in the van allen belt aswell.


all i care about is this. people 'went' there and never looked happy in any of their interviews. never spoke in great detail in endless storys about their time in space or on the moon.

how would that little thing get back from the moon to earth.

why has no one ever done it again. even tho technology is 50!! years further. is this was real back then then everything they used would be so easy to make in todays world and with so many rich people and countries it would have been done again.

Just nothing about the story makes sense. i dont even need details.


even people i know IRL tell me 'theres nothing on the moon why would we go back' like wtf. that makes no sense what so ever.

seems to me like all we are able to do at this time is to send stuff up a few miles. like satellites and the iss.

and i guess those space probes that dont have people on them. but who even knows if those are real.


who believes that people went to the moon, look at like a square mile and went back home thinking theyve seen it all up there and wouldnt even need to go back?
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who cares about the protection really. that would mean id also have to believe in the van allen belt aswell.


all i care about is this. people 'went' there and never looked happy in any of their interviews. never spoke in great detail in endless storys about their time in space or on the moon.
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Except for all the times that they DID look happy and spoke in great detail. Of course you won't find those on hoaxie sites.

how would that little thing get back from the moon to earth.
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The top half of the LM lifted off from the Moon and rendezvous'd with the command module and was then discarded. The command module was pushed back to Earth by the Service module.
why has no one ever done it again. even tho technology is 50!! years further. is this was real back then then everything they used would be so easy to make in todays world and with so many rich people and countries it would have been done again.
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new technology doesn't help lift stuff to orbit. Rockets are still expensive and still work largely the same.
Nobody has seriously wanted to pay for it since then. Politicians have mentioned going back multiple times but then never follow it up with funding.
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who cares about the protection really. that would mean id also have to believe in the van allen belt aswell.
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Unless they want you to vote for them nobody actually cares what you believe.
The only thing that matters if you can support claims you make with evidence.

all i care about is this. people 'went' there and never looked happy in any of their interviews. never spoke in great detail in endless storys about their time in space or on the moon.
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You are either insinuating that you have seen all interviews, and are lying about that.
Or you have indeed seen all interviews, and you know you are lying about their content.

Why are you lying?

how would that little thing get back from the moon to earth.
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If by "that little thing" you mean the lunar lander, that question yet again supports my observation: almost all hoaxies are EPICALLY IGNORANT about Apollo.

why has no one ever done it again.
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It was done 5 times again.

is this was real back then then everything they used would be so easy to make in todays world
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So now you claim to be a space engineer?

and with so many rich people and countries it would have been done again.
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Why? Because you would have?
But every person that isn't you isn't you.
They don't think like you. They know things you don't know. They have different objectives and desires than you.
And they don't need you to make their decisions for you.

You not understanding other people's decisions only proves that you don't understand other people's decisions.
Well, d'uh!

That being said, the motives the USA had for trying to become the first people to land on the Moon obviously can not be repeated.

Just nothing about the story makes sense.
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To you.
You only know a tiny fraction of the story, and at least half of what you think you know you know wrong.
So your opinion about it is worth exactly as much as we paid for it.

i dont even need details.
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So you want to stay ignorant. You want to continue spouting it on the internet.
You like being the entertainment?

Knowledge is power, ignorance is for losers.

even people i know IRL tell me 'theres nothing on the moon why would we go back' like wtf. that makes no sense what so ever.
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To you.

seems to me like all we are able to do at this time is to send stuff up a few miles. like satellites and the iss.
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To you.
That's because because you are ignorant about the ca 2 dozen ongoing deep space missions.

and i guess those space probes that dont have people on them. but who even knows if those are real.
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Your paranoia-induced 'guesses' are irrelevant.
The opinions of an ignoramus are worth exactly as much as we payed for it.

who believes that people went to the moon, look at like a square mile and went back home thinking theyve seen it all up there and wouldnt even need to go back?
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But nobody is claiming that, that's your own fantasy.
The Moon is still being studied, and that will never stop.*
But it is done with more affordable means.
Much more affordable.
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*We haven't even explored most of our own planet yet.
And doing that is much cheaper.

ADDENDUM: Do NOT make the mistake of believing that the primary reason for Apollo was to study the Moon, that was mostly an afterthought.

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ofcourse its faked, why do you think russians never went to the moon, or for that matter anyone else
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Indeed
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