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To the Christians: You’ve Been Misled by Your Priests and Prophets About How the End Times Will Unfold. The Davidic Kingdom is at Hand...

 
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Are you suggesting that people can usher in the Kingdom?

"Kingdom now" Theology?


People can do nothing without the Spirit of the Lord moving within them enabling them to do it. I'm talking about "the meek shall inherit the Earth," and "the wealth of the wicked will be transferred to the righteous," and "I will make them which say they are Jews but are not and do lie, behold I will make them come and worship before thy feet and to know that I have loved thee." But none of this will happen until first the tares (Nephilim generation Satanists) that have infiltrated the body of Christ and are hindering the move of the Holy Spirit are first removed and Mystery Babylon is fallen.


I am curious as to where are you getting this information? Is the sole source strictly what you believe the Bible says with no outside influence?

I noticed you quote Scripture quite a bit and I can do that too, but I am just talking here. Not looking for a fight or a duel of Bible verses.

I really wish to know where you learned this or were taught this. Thank-you TS.


I was taught it by the Holy Spirit and reading the Bible! Reading the Bible only and not the prophecy books out today! I'm not saying I know all the mysteries of the Bible, but this is what He showed me when I asked Him for the truth. And He told me to post it on this forum. I didn't want to do it, and I put it off for over a week, because frankly, I expected the kind of response that it would get and I thought it was meaningless to do it. But I did it anyway because He told me to put it out there. So there it is. People can read the scriptures themselves to see if it is so and ask the Holy Spirit to show them the truth too.


Hey, thanks for that.

I would ask only one more question as your point of view and your perspectives are quite uncommon. Why do you believe that only a select few have come to these conclusions? To suggest that there is some hidden truth that has been withheld from the majority of mankind but revealed to you and a few select others does not really jive.

The Word of God is for all men to freely come and partake of.

Yet, you claim exclusivity.
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If that is the way that you want to put it, then yes, it is exclusive to those who in symbiotic relationship with the Holy Spirit revel the true interpretation of scripture.

"The natur4al man recieves not the things that are of God...That pretty much cuts out all academic pursuits to know truth. God has ordained that pure truth can only be held to those who work in concert with Him as their guidance. The natural mind will never be able to understand spiritual truth, for they will always reach the wrong conclusions without the guidance of the Lord God to teach them. That is the secret to knowing the pure truth of the Bible.
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Hey, thanks for that.

I would ask only one more question as your point of view and your perspectives are quite uncommon. Why do you believe that only a select few have come to these conclusions? To suggest that there is some hidden truth that has been withheld from the majority of mankind but revealed to you and a few select others does not really jive.

The Word of God is for all men to freely come and partake of.

Yet, you claim exclusivity.


Because of the words of Jesus Himself, 2 Timothy 4:1-4

"1I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

4And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.


Also there's scripture in Isaiah 28 that talks about it:

7But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.

8For all tables are full of vomit and filthiness, so that there is no place clean.


9Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

10For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

Who will understand doctrine, according to the words of God Himself? Those that are weaned from the milk, drawn from the breasts. In simple terms, stop listening to man and false prophets to interpret the Word of God, and instead read the Bible and ask the Lord to open your eyes to the truth through His Holy Spirit of Truth.

Also borne out by the fact that virtually all of the preachers of today, especially the ones most famous in the Evangelical community, are wolves in sheep's clothing, Illuminati/Masonic/Nephilim that have invaded the body of Christ. There's a picture of Pat Robertson on the cover of Time Magazine giving the bear claw Masonic hand signal. The list goes on and on...
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I am not sure where you got the idea that I depend on "preachers" to interpret my doctrine. In fact I have not been to a "church service" in 14 years.

I belong to a home based Bible study. We are simply a group of believers that have come together because we are disappointed in what the churches have done to water down and distort the Word of God. Our leader is Christ Jesus. Our sole source of study and worship is God's Word and our interpreter is the Holy Spirit.

We happen to have not come to the same conclusions that you have in regaurds to what the Word of God says.

Thank you for tolerating my questions. The questions were not motivated by a desire to argue the Word of God. I hope you understand that. And, I think you may.

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Hey, thanks for that.

I would ask only one more question as your point of view and your perspectives are quite uncommon. Why do you believe that only a select few have come to these conclusions? To suggest that there is some hidden truth that has been withheld from the majority of mankind but revealed to you and a few select others does not really jive.

The Word of God is for all men to freely come and partake of.

Yet, you claim exclusivity.





If that is the way that you want to put it, then yes, it is exclusive to those who in symbiotic relationship with the Holy Spirit revel the true interpretation of scripture.

"The natur4al man recieves not the things that are of God...That pretty much cuts out all academic pursuits to know truth. God has ordained that pure truth can only be held to those who work in concert with Him as their guidance. The natural mind will never be able to understand spiritual truth, for they will always reach the wrong conclusions without the guidance of the Lord God to teach them. That is the secret to knowing the pure truth of the Bible.
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Hi wingedlion. I'd have answered the same way to you as I did to TS in my above post to TS.
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...and it will happen BEFORE the Lord’s return. Here’s some scripture to back it up:

Isaiah 2:2 - “And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.”

Micah 4:1 - “But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.”

Where else do we see that phrase, “in the last days”?

This is, obviously, before the Lord’s return:
2 Timothy 3:1 - “This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.”

The Lord hasn’t returned here also:
Hebrews 1:2 - “Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds.”

Jesus hasn’t returned here either:
2 Peter 3:3 - “Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts.”
 Quoting: ThreshingSword


The last days WERE the days before we started the new cycle in 1987, We are in the new days, has not a thing to do with when Christ returns and Christians do have a lot of misunderstanding in the concept of Christ returns. It is a combo of actually walking the planet again, with the ascension of the people of earth into a planetary society of light and life. That is quite some time off.

The Second Coming represents thusly the return of Christ Consciousness to the planet. It is when a certain wave hits us, in which Creator will indwell this particular creation.
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The House of the Lord are Temples, established beginning anew in Salt Lake City, a mountain city reserved as one of the last places set aside for the church that is restored in the last days.

Topical Guide: Last Days
[link to scriptures.lds.org]

2 The keys of the kingdom of God are committed unto man on the earth, and from thence shall the gospel roll forth unto the ends of the earth, as the stone which is cut out of the mountain without hands shall roll forth, until it has filled the whole earth.
[link to scriptures.lds.org]


I didn't know you were Mormon! Beautiful country out there. I love skiing in Utah. But as far as the Mormon doctrine goes, I'm sorry, but it's a cult.


I'm afraid that people are so use to being spoonfed the bible that very few have ever allowed the Spirit of Truth to guide them into the scriptures. It's really sad, that the treasures of the Kingdom are only for those who will take the time to dig them out. God rewards diligent seekers, not casual inquirers.

Very true. There's many other things I would love to learn and don't know. Still digging for me! It's been a long journey!
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The gospel was restored by one who was being spoon fed different interpretaions of the bible. It is the same gospel establish by the Christ Himself during His mortal ministry, complete with a Prophet at the helm and twelve Apostles. The scriptures are not closed, but rather God continues a conversation with His children that will listen.

[link to www.lds.org]

During the 1820s, upstate New York experienced a period of religious revivals. Joseph Smith Jr., a 14-year-old boy, lived in Palmyra, where he attended the services of various religions. He searched the Bible to discover religious truth. While searching the New Testament, he read, "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him" (James 1:5). Joseph was inspired to ask God the questions that had been troubling him. One morning in the spring of 1820, he went to the woods near his home, found a secluded place, and knelt down to pray. While praying, a miraculous event occurred, which Joseph later described: "I saw a pillar of light exactly over my head, above the brightness of the sun, which descended gradually until it fell upon me. . . . When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other–This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!" (Joseph Smith–History 1:16-17). These two personages, God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ, instructed Joseph not to join any of the churches then established, but instead to wait for further direction in the restoration of Christ's Church.

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Its much more than just recognizing Christ, it is a change of ways, to be born again in the spirit, the spirit of love and forgiveness, compassion truth and justice. It wont be near enough to just recognize Christ methinks. Btw op you forgot to mention the arabs, you forgot to mention many others too. Jesus came for every single person. The salvation is for every single person that chooses ,arabs too. The measuring stick is Love. In my opinion that will determine who is in and who is out.
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Hey, thanks for that.

I would ask only one more question as your point of view and your perspectives are quite uncommon. Why do you believe that only a select few have come to these conclusions? To suggest that there is some hidden truth that has been withheld from the majority of mankind but revealed to you and a few select others does not really jive.

The Word of God is for all men to freely come and partake of.

Yet, you claim exclusivity.


Because of the words of Jesus Himself, 2 Timothy 4:1-4

"1I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

4And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.


Also there's scripture in Isaiah 28 that talks about it:

7But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.

8For all tables are full of vomit and filthiness, so that there is no place clean.


9Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

10For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

Who will understand doctrine, according to the words of God Himself? Those that are weaned from the milk, drawn from the breasts. In simple terms, stop listening to man and false prophets to interpret the Word of God, and instead read the Bible and ask the Lord to open your eyes to the truth through His Holy Spirit of Truth.

Also borne out by the fact that virtually all of the preachers of today, especially the ones most famous in the Evangelical community, are wolves in sheep's clothing, Illuminati/Masonic/Nephilim that have invaded the body of Christ. There's a picture of Pat Robertson on the cover of Time Magazine giving the bear claw Masonic hand signal. The list goes on and on...


I am not sure where you got the idea that I depend on "preachers" to interpret my doctrine. In fact I have not been to a "church service" in 14 years.

I belong to a home based Bible study. We are simply a group of believers that have come together because we are disappointed in what the churches have done to water down and distort the Word of God. Our leader is Christ Jesus. Our sole source of study and worship is God's Word and our interpreter is the Holy Spirit.

We happen to have not come to the same conclusions that you have in regaurds to what the Word of God says.

Thank you for tolerating my questions. The questions were not motivated by a desire to argue the Word of God. I hope you understand that. And, I think you may.
 Quoting: panthera~onca


That wasn't a message meant to be directed towards you. I was speaking generally of all Christians when I said to stop listening to men and false prophets and study the Bible for yourself. I meant it generically, and I'm sorry if it came across as personally directed only towards you. It sounds like you're on the right track already by getting out of the churches of today. May God bless you.
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Thank you for tolerating my questions. The questions were not motivated by a desire to argue the Word of God. I hope you understand that. And, I think you may.


That wasn't a message meant to be directed towards you. I was speaking generally of all Christians when I said to stop listening to men and false prophets and study the Bible for yourself. I meant it generically, and I'm sorry if it came across as personally directed only towards you. It sounds like you're on the right track already by getting out of the churches of today. May God bless you.
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TS, I think you are right about not listening to false teachers. There are hundreds it seems and more "pop" up daily. We sure see eye to eye about that.

And regarding letting only the Holy Spirit guide us...on that we can agree as well.

I see that although you have some strong beliefs you stop short of insisting that people hear your message without the guidance of the HS. I respect that immensely because whenever I witness a human being saying "Listen to me only" rather than "Check all you hear by God and His Word" my spirit immediately sounds warning sirens.

We may also agree that we both independently trust God can handle getting His message across, is the final word, and trumps all else that comes from the mouth of human beings.

After all it's about Jesus. The message of God points to salvation in Christ. The important thing is that we know Christ.

All these doctrines (although important) do not trump the simple Gospel message. God can be trusted work out each individuals understanding in His own will and according to His purpose.

God bless you too TS.
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Has it occured to anyone that religious beliefs were cleverly planted centuries ago by advanced, self serving extraterrestrials in order to keep us trapped in a cycle of dying and returning to human form. What for reason?.....for tapping into and using our energy/life force. Our true essence/life force is what we truly are, and they had nothing to do with creating our life force, nor do they possess that kind of power. That which created our life force, is the true all powerful being of all that exists.

Why does christianity tell believers that they must call on the lord to save them at death? Why indeed?......These cunning extraterrestrials know that they can't take or control our life force without out permission.

The bible is right when it says god created man. The human form was genetically contructed when aliens combined the earth apes dna with their own dna. In the bible it says "WE SHALL CREATE MAN IN OUR IMAGE" note the word "WE" in the bible.

The human form is now a vessel which keeps our true essence trapped in an endless cycle of birth and death into the human body. When our life force leaves the body we are tricked by aliens illusions of divine angelic creatures or even by loved ones and or by different religious figures that followers believe in. Once you agree to go with them the cycle starts over again.

Whether or not you believe in intelligent life in the multiverses is not important at this point. Eventually all mankind will find out that we are not alone. Fortunately there are also many enlightened aliens who have our best interests at heart and they are working to help us understand what we truly are and how we are being deceived.

Whether you are an atheist, or a religious follower please do not be tricked or confused at the time of death. Once you leave the human form ask/think or say to yourself, "I return to that which created my life force/essence"
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I'm afraid that people are so use to being spoonfed the bible that very few have ever allowed the Spirit of Truth to guide them into the scriptures. It's really sad, that the treasures of the Kingdom are only for those who will take the time to dig them out. God rewards diligent seekers, not casual inquirers.
 Quoting: wingedlion/whiterider 675800

Definately takes time and patience to dig and sure enough you find the gems.
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...and it will happen BEFORE the Lord’s return. Here’s some scripture to back it up:

Isaiah 2:2 - “And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.”

Micah 4:1 - “But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.”

Where else do we see that phrase, “in the last days”?

This is, obviously, before the Lord’s return:
2 Timothy 3:1 - “This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.”

The Lord hasn’t returned here also:
Hebrews 1:2 - “Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds.”

Jesus hasn’t returned here either:
2 Peter 3:3 - “Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts.”
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I read the bible. For myself. The bible is clear: the end times are the precursor warning signs. Then the Tribulation. Then the Great Tribulation. These are all designed to get the attention of the unbeliever to repent. Those who choose not to repent suffer God's wrath. As it has always been with an unrepentant people, as the bible presents. Goid is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow and He judges sinners.

Then He will clear the earth of the unbelievers, set up His kingdom on earth for 1000 years, and at the end of that time satan is released for a time and there is one last battle. Then eternity starts- FOR EVERYONE- as those who believe rule and reign with Christ forevermore, and those who don't are cast into the lake of fire along with death and hades.

the end.

You can pass this truth off by saying we are deceived by prophets, or that are too stupid to discern real bible truth when we learn it ('the ole derogatory 'spoonfed') but the truth is the truth! The Great Tribulation is God's JUDGMENT UPON SINNERS. He is not coming back before all have had their chance to repent or undergo His wrath.
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The return of Christ is at least 1000 years away.
First comes the millennial kingdom of God on earth
ruled over by God's new David which will prepare
the bride for Christ... as Esther was taken into
the king's palace, prepared and purified for a year
before she married the king.



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The quote below is taken from "A Treasury of Serbian Orthodox Spirituality"
written by Serbian Bishop Nikolai Velimirovich (1880-1956)


Note the Bishop died in 1956, so his words are quite prophetic
for he foresaw the overthrow of communism and the restoration
of a Holy Orthodox Russia before the millennial kingdom.



"An empire of the Orthodox Balkan peoples together
with the empire of Holy Russia - not the present
marxist, un-Russian Russia, but Holy Orthodox Russia -
can bring happiness to all mankind and realize that
mystical millennial kingdom of peace on earth, which
appeared in a vision on the island of Patmos to that
glorious apostle and visionary, St John the Evangelist.

For that Millennium has never yet been made a reality
in the history of the world, and what has been
destined by God, must become a reality.

Who will make it a reality if not those who up to the
present day have been the most martyred and reviled,
carved up and downtrodden, i.e., the Slavs and the
other Orthodox Peoples ?"






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Time To Leave The City and Head To The Mountain of God

Howbeit when He, the Spirit Of Truth, is come, he will guide you into alll truth, for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak, and he will show you things to come. John 16:13

The time is now to choose which side you are on. There is a right choice and there is a wrong one. It is that simple.

and I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven , having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth,
and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Saying with a loud voice,

"Fear God, and give glory to HIM; for the hour is come: and worship HIM that made the heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. Rev. 14:6-7

Why do you want to stay in the city, when you can be fed on the mountain? Did Moses stay in the city, or did he go to the
mountain?

How can it be so simple, to forget the way, the simple truth? Time is short to choose before the second angel arrives, and Babylon falls. You must
choose before this angel arrives, or it will be too late, and you will keep the mark you chose, and shall be judged accordingly.

Do you want to be fed and filled with valueless gods, or fed TRUE Lifegiving Everlasting Food, spiritual food by the Lamb of God on Mount Sion, and recieve the Father's Name written in your foreheads, meaning knowing this new name of His? The creator can feed you from His consciousness, directly into yours, but you would rather be fed junk food from valueless gods you have made for yourselves. You must be willing to leave it all behind and leave the City for the Mountain.

Why would you settle for valueless god's, when we can know the ONE TRUE GOD?

Don't you want to master the New Song and to be redeemed now to be fed on Mount Sion the true food, from the one True God?

ALL Nations can know Him, but they would rather stay in the City of valueless gods, devided from their brothers and sisters in other religions ,lost in their own thoughts, with their own versions as to what is truth fighting each other and deviding lands with bounderies keeping their brothers out?

Don't you see this is what is preventing you from ever mastering the New Song? This is what is giving you the mark of the beast on your foreheads and hand for you taking part in this behaviour, an invisable mark, but this mark is not invisable to your creator. He sees all and is in all things, even in your hearts. He knows all your thoughts. You cannot hide. He searches the hearts of all men.

All haughtiness, pride, must become low, and your creator will be put on high when the second angel arrives. Your valueless gods will pass away before your eyes. You will run and try to hide in the rocks and holes in the ground you have prepared, but you will not be able to hide , for the True God, your creator can see through hearts, all walls and rocks.

Why is puny man, so prideful as to forget his maker? Did they forget that the Creator deserves to be exhalted above all their worthless gods?

Oh, If they would only repent and come back, The Father of mercy would take them back and show tender compassion to them.

Is not the Creator of you worthy enough to feed you truth, HIS higher truth, HIS ways, and HIS paths, HIS justice, HIS wisdom directly to you through the conduit directly to your hearts and minds?

Do you believe that He alone can teach you from HIS Higher Counsels, from above and rewrite your heart anew? He has enough force to create the universe, but not enough force to activate your hearts and minds to know HIM? All you need to do is COME!

Does this show you that God is Love and Truth, merciful and wise to still hold out His mighty arm and invite you to COME? All he wants is to be acknowledged that HE is there, and wants you to just come back to Him with your whole heart to be taught by HIM alone. If only man would do this, than God would show His tender mercy on his sons and daughters, and show them the way home, and would heal the wounds of all the nations.

Many nations would come and say, "COME, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the House of Jacob, and (HE will teach us of HIS ways), and we will walk in HIS paths: for the Law shall go forth of Zion (heaven directly to mens hearts), and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem (heaven , God within mans hearts, marriage united) and then they shall know Gods ways.

Arise! and thresh, O daughter of Zion: for I will make thine horn iron, and I will make thy hoofs brass, and tho shall beat in pieces many people: and I will consecrate their gain unto the LORD, and their substance unto the LORD of the whole earth.

What are you waiting for? COME! Before it is too late to make the change. There is no middle ground. This is for all the nations of the Earth to COME! Be fed by God's Mountain, HIS banquet, not mens any longer. COME! Just ask your creator of all, What is TRUTH? He will open the flood gates of heaven and give mankind lifes water free.

You have to leave the City behind. (mans ways of valueless gods, ) and return to the Mountain of God, and worship Him there, eating HIS lifegiving food directly into your hearts, and you will be His friend like Aberaham walked with God. Man's ways do not work, and will never work. Admit you need the Creator of all things, and submit to Him. He will show great mercy upon all Nations, if they only turn back from their ways, and lose their pride. It is that simple. Leave behind the City (manmade kingdoms), and be fed on the Mountain the Wild Mountain Honey from God.

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Isaiah 2:2 - “And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.”

Micah 4:1 - “But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.”

Where else do we see that phrase, “in the last days”?
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13 Afterwards there shall be another week, the eighth of righteousness, to which shall be given a sword to execute judgment and justice upon all oppressors.

14 Sinners shall be delivered up into the hands of the righteous, who during its completion shall acquire habitations by their righteousness; and the House of the Great King shall be established for celebrations for ever.


and the House of the Great King shall be established
and the House of the Great King shall be established


WE ARE LIVING THE EIGHTH WEEK!!!!

peace

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Last two days = 2000 years.

Last 1000 years is cut short lest man destroy the earth.

The mountain established is the government of the Kingdom of YHVH that is above all people.

mountain = government

Those of the nations who hear the voice of the good shepherd who is the King on the Throne at the right hand of the Father have been and are flowing to that government for the last two days.

Hosea ch. 6. Restoration for 2 days/ 2000 years. Then on the 3rd day those flowing to that supreme government will see that King face to face.

The Davidic Kingdom is the kingdom of YHVH Yahushua who is that one that King David witnessed of.

The flesh and blood one of Torahlessness/Lawlessness will be given for those of the LIE of that anti-Messiah proclaiming himself to be 'god'.

I prefer that one that is not of flesh and blood where the redeemed from sin who are washed in the blood of the Lamb receive an incorruptible body at the appointed time.

Flesh and blood will not inherit the Kingdom of YHVH.

Act 2:29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulcher is with us unto this day.
Act 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that YHVH had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Messiah to sit on his throne;
Act 2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Messiah, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
Act 2:32 This Yahushua 'Jesus' hath YHVH raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
Act 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of YHVH exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
Act 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, YHVH said unto my Yahushua, Sit thou on my right hand,
Act 2:35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
Act 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that YHVH hath made that same Yahushua, whom ye have crucified, both as YHVH and Messiah.
Act 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Yahushua the Messiah for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the YHVH our Elohim shall call.
Act 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Act 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
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You cannot confine God to one book, in fact you cannot confine God to books at all.



God has supernaturally revealed Himself
throughout recorded History
and communicated Himself
through the inspired writings of 66 individual "books" by 40 authors over our thousands of years
into one unique and awesome whole Book.

Some people resist that from the very core of their being.
Literally.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 670406



This happens because God is in all of us and we are in God. This is how God is all knowing, everywhere. there are people who are born and die illiterate, do you think because they do not have access to your bible, they cannot access truth and likely higher without the issue of translation?
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Its much more than just recognizing Christ, it is a change of ways, to be born again in the spirit, the spirit of love and forgiveness, compassion truth and justice. It wont be near enough to just recognize Christ methinks. Btw op you forgot to mention the arabs, you forgot to mention many others too. Jesus came for every single person. The salvation is for every single person that chooses ,arabs too. The measuring stick is Love. In my opinion that will determine who is in and who is out.
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Yes, love and tolerance, even tolerance for pain as we do not have the big picture to honestly judge the route of the pain and where the pain will end up; i believe it will end in tremendous glory and even greater victory.
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Its much more than just recognizing Christ, it is a change of ways, to be born again in the spirit, the spirit of love and forgiveness, compassion truth and justice. It wont be near enough to just recognize Christ methinks. Btw op you forgot to mention the arabs, you forgot to mention many others too. Jesus came for every single person. The salvation is for every single person that chooses ,arabs too. The measuring stick is Love. In my opinion that will determine who is in and who is out.


Yes, love and tolerance, even tolerance for pain as we do not have the big picture to honestly judge the route of the pain and where the pain will end up; i believe it will end in tremendous glory and even greater victory.
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Yeah..VICTORY for THEM..When they are beating the shit out of US..

And to think..You helped THEM...FREE WILL, eh...


The GOLD MINES..They ain't fun ya know..
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...and it will happen BEFORE the Lord’s return. Here’s some scripture to back it up:

Isaiah 2:2 - “And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.”

Micah 4:1 - “But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.”

Where else do we see that phrase, “in the last days”?

This is, obviously, before the Lord’s return:
2 Timothy 3:1 - “This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.”

The Lord hasn’t returned here also:
Hebrews 1:2 - “Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds.”

Jesus hasn’t returned here either:
2 Peter 3:3 - “Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts.”
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It's not about "Jesus", but rather about "The ONE".

You'll see. hf
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we have been in the last days since Christ fulfilled old testament and died and rose again.

now we are in the final hours of the last days.
the apostles taught that Christ Jesus could return at any time. Thread: bible prophecy Fulfilled 666 Anti Christ-Europe
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Are you suggesting that people can usher in the Kingdom?

"Kingdom now" Theology?


People can do nothing without the Spirit of the Lord moving within them enabling them to do it. I'm talking about "the meek shall inherit the Earth," and "the wealth of the wicked will be transferred to the righteous," and "I will make them which say they are Jews but are not and do lie, behold I will make them come and worship before thy feet and to know that I have loved thee." But none of this will happen until first the tares (Nephilim generation Satanists) that have infiltrated the body of Christ and are hindering the move of the Holy Spirit are first removed and Mystery Babylon is fallen.


I am curious as to where are you getting this information? Is the sole source strictly what you believe the Bible says with no outside influence?

I noticed you quote Scripture quite a bit and I can do that too, but I am just talking here. Not looking for a fight or a duel of Bible verses.

I really wish to know where you learned this or were taught this. Thank-you TS.


I was taught it by the Holy Spirit and reading the Bible! Reading the Bible only and not the prophecy books out today! I'm not saying I know all the mysteries of the Bible, but this is what He showed me when I asked Him for the truth. And He told me to post it on this forum. I didn't want to do it, and I put it off for over a week, because frankly, I expected the kind of response that it would get and I thought it was meaningless to do it. But I did it anyway because He told me to put it out there. So there it is. People can read the scriptures themselves to see if it is so and ask the Holy Spirit to show them the truth too.


Hey, thanks for that.

I would ask only one more question as your point of view and your perspectives are quite uncommon. Why do you believe that only a select few have come to these conclusions? To suggest that there is some hidden truth that has been withheld from the majority of mankind but revealed to you and a few select others does not really jive.

The Word of God is for all men to freely come and partake of.

Yet, you claim exclusivity.





If that is the way that you want to put it, then yes, it is exclusive to those who in symbiotic relationship with the Holy Spirit revel the true interpretation of scripture.

"The natur4al man recieves not the things that are of God...That pretty much cuts out all academic pursuits to know truth. God has ordained that pure truth can only be held to those who work in concert with Him as their guidance. The natural mind will never be able to understand spiritual truth, for they will always reach the wrong conclusions without the guidance of the Lord God to teach them. That is the secret to knowing the pure truth of the Bible.
 Quoting: wingedlion/whiterider 676131

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So what exactly was the misleading

and what exactly is the correction?

How come my real simple and direct questions never get the common freaking courtesy of a simple and direct answer.

That always tells me everything i need to know about a poster.
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a lot of Christians beleive they will be taken out of this world before tribulation starts..

They get this from one versus in the bible..and many words from man...
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Oh wow, thanks for resurrecting an old thread I thought was dead.

We're close, people, really close to watching the NWO fall. They're not going to be able to bring it to pass. It is breaking apart. In Judges 7, Gideon's army of 300 defeated the Midianites by God's hand, and God caused the warriors in the camp (of Midianites) to fight against each other with their swords. So, too, I believe the various factions within the NWO are fighting amongst themselves right now. Pray for the Lord to confuse the enemy and frustrate their plans (Psalm 55:9).
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Some of the same type

always say "Christians don't understand..."

as the preface to them declaring that their interpretations, assumptions and speculations
from, of, and on the Bible
are actually the only correct understanding of The Bible.

The reason for denominations is that people disagree
wherever and whenever there is the opportunity to disagree.
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One thing that would help is if we were working with the full deck. We have to remember that in the dark ages the Catholic church didn't allow the people access to the Bible at all. This leads me to believe that when they did finally give access, they gave access to the parts that would not put their power at risk, the rest is locked away. All we as Christians can do is go on what we have, and God will be faithful and just to hold us accountable only to that. However, ya have to wonder what all we are missing.
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So what exactly was the misleading

and what exactly is the correction?

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I don't know what the OP means by misleading, maybe that
every generation since Christ thought Our Lord might return
in their time?

Yes, for sure, Jesus is coming in our time but not in His person. Our Lord is not coming in person again until the Final Judgment.

His coming now in our time...is spiritual. All the world
will be made aware Jesus is God and He is present in the
Holy Eucharist.

I can give you an answer on what the correction is...

+ + +

The Warning of God's Mercy

The Warning is a great act of Gods Mercy, on such a big scale that nothing compares to it in all mankind's History, bar The Passion and Death of Our Lord Jesus Christ. However, its nature has nothing to do with the noiseless, lonely, humiliating, brutal and loving death of the Lamb of God; but its more like an universal smack, a sort of pulling down the world out of its motorbike, the same way Saint Paul was unhorsed, in order to make see the whole world at the same time the blurred figures we have had mocked about previously.

Which information do we have? Here it is:

It will be seen in the sky all over the world and immediately transmitted to the inside of our souls.

It will be an astronomic phenomenon, similar to a bang of stars with a lot of light and noise, but it won't fall over us.

It will be like fire, but it won't burn our bodies, though it will be felt physically and internally.

It will last a very short time, but its effects on the world will be huge.

We should not be afraid of death if we are not quaking with fear or, in some special cases, due to God's Mercy.

Everyone will see in a short period of time how their souls are before the light of God, and will know that He exists, and that He has been present at every single sin of theirs.

It will be like a trial in miniature.

God hopes that, through this act of His Mercy, we amend our lives, and turn away from the wrong path.

Those who already know and love God, will be closer to Him.

Many will be converted, but still many will keep on denying God, denying the One Who is, in an act of supreme hypocrisy.
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I'll quote a few here: "One of these keys to understanding prophecy is the fact that most prophecy is dual in nature. Throughout the Bible, we see duality in many things. God made a material creation and a spiritual creation (Genesis 2:1-4). The first Adam was physical, and the second Adam, Christ, is spiritual (I Corinthians 15:45-47). The Old Covenant was based on physical descent and physical blessings and cursings. It was followed by the New Covenant, which is spiritual (Hebrews 8). At the first coming of Christ, He came in the weakness of flesh; when He comes again, He will be a powerful spirit Being."
 Quoting: ThreshingSword


Excellent Observation that is in harmony with the 3rd chapter of Moses.

5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew. For I, the Lord God, created all things, of which I have spoken, spiritually, before they were naturally upon the face of the earth. For I, the Lord God, had not caused it to rain upon the face of the earth. And I, the Lord God, had created all the children of men; and not yet a man to till the ground; for in heaven created I them; and there was not yet flesh upon the earth, neither in the water, neither in the air;
6 But I, the Lord God, spake, and there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
7 And I, the Lord God, formed man from the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul, the first flesh upon the earth, the first man also; nevertheless, all things were before created; but spiritually were they created and made according to my word. - [link to scriptures.lds.org]

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So what exactly was the misleading

and what exactly is the correction?


I don't know what the OP means by misleading, maybe that
every generation since Christ thought Our Lord might return
in their time?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 814325


Jesus warned us about it in Matthew 7:15 - Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

The body of Christ has been infiltrated (purposely) by Satanic types, Masons, Generational Satanists, and they have taught a different end times scenario than the one the Bible teaches, such as the dispensational doctrine, Jews only are God's chosen people, pretrib rapture, NWO being present at Christ's return.

The infiltration has been so bad for the body of Christ that the salt has lost its savor and now does not hold any kind of power like the first Christians had. Think about it. Do you see anyone anywhere with a huge crowd gathering like Jesus and the apostles had where there are miracles being performed like bringing food out of thin air, raising the dead, healing the sick? Instead, we listen to preachers like Pat Robertson, who is a Mason giving the secret Mason hand signal on Time Magazine, and numerous other false teachers, or Todd Bentley running around hyping up a crowd and screaming FIRE FIRE FIRE and thinking that is the Holy Ghost. We have the abominable Catholic church with its idolatry and dead ritualistic routines. And the list goes on and on.
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I'll quote a few here: "One of these keys to understanding prophecy is the fact that most prophecy is dual in nature. Throughout the Bible, we see duality in many things. God made a material creation and a spiritual creation (Genesis 2:1-4). The first Adam was physical, and the second Adam, Christ, is spiritual (I Corinthians 15:45-47). The Old Covenant was based on physical descent and physical blessings and cursings. It was followed by the New Covenant, which is spiritual (Hebrews 8). At the first coming of Christ, He came in the weakness of flesh; when He comes again, He will be a powerful spirit Being."


Excellent Observation that is in harmony with the 3rd chapter of Moses.

5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew. For I, the Lord God, created all things, of which I have spoken, spiritually, before they were naturally upon the face of the earth. For I, the Lord God, had not caused it to rain upon the face of the earth. And I, the Lord God, had created all the children of men; and not yet a man to till the ground; for in heaven created I them; and there was not yet flesh upon the earth, neither in the water, neither in the air;
6 But I, the Lord God, spake, and there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
7 And I, the Lord God, formed man from the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul, the first flesh upon the earth, the first man also; nevertheless, all things were before created; but spiritually were they created and made according to my word. - [link to scriptures.lds.org]

MC
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Hi, Magi.
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it's true. and it's about to happen. yay.





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