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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 679866  United States05/15/2009 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just because you can't enter due to lower vibration does not mean he does not love you. You forget that we made the choice to separate from him. Not the other way around. It is up to us to find our way home. We were the ones who were arrogant and thought we should rule. He does not hold us back, we do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 418693So missy...you've been mixing da Werd of the Lawd in with hippie Love and Light vibrational crap? Oh, shame on you. That there be the work of Eveeiil, and Da debbil iz a liar!!  |
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panthera~onca  User ID: 679065 United States05/15/2009 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can you please provide the statement by God Himself or the Bible verse that clearly states that God's love is "unconditional" in the first place? The question presupposes God claimed His love to be unconditional to begin with. No matter how high the throne one sits on, one sits on one's bottom. * |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 418693 United States05/15/2009 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If he loves you unconditionally... why does he place conditions on your entrance into his kingdom? See John 3:16 - 3:19 lol Quoting: Juliett 484Who said you would not be forgiven? um... that doesn't answer the question... in fact, i can't see if that even addresses the issue... god's love can't be unconditional if he requires you to do things to get to heaven... the mere act of requiring belief is a condition... hence... god cannot love you unconditionally... Just because you can't enter due to lower vibration does not mean he does not love you. You forget that we made the choice to separate from him. Not the other way around. It is up to us to find our way home. We were the ones who were arrogant and thought we should rule. He does not hold us back, we do. WHO told you this and WHY do you believe them? No-one told me. I've spent years reading all the world's religious and spiritual texts. The answers are all there and contrary to what people think, they actually complement each other. It's like each tradition is one piece of the whole that is the truth. Most people give up when the bible doesn't make any sense to them. 1. The Fallen Angels 2. The Book of Genesis (Adam & Eve) Since you mention the bible I'm trying to help you understand through that particular work. Now some of us did not make that choice (to be separate), some of us were sort of thrown into it because of the damage that the fallen angels did to the programming of this world. This world was labeled as God's world and the fallen angels took it as their own. They reside in part, in our ego. When we listen to our egos and not our hearts, we are living in the illusion of separation. For all is one. And therefore God is in all and part of all and yet also exists as omnipresent and omnipotent. |
| FREAK_OUT_NOW!!! (OP) User ID: 679895 United States05/15/2009 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can you please provide the statement by God Himself or the Bible verse that clearly states that God's love is "unconditional" in the first place? Quoting: panthera~oncaThe question presupposes God claimed His love to be unconditional to begin with. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 679866 United States05/15/2009 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If he loves you unconditionally... why does he place conditions on your entrance into his kingdom? See John 3:16 - 3:19 lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 418693Who said you would not be forgiven? um... that doesn't answer the question... in fact, i can't see if that even addresses the issue... god's love can't be unconditional if he requires you to do things to get to heaven... the mere act of requiring belief is a condition... hence... god cannot love you unconditionally... Just because you can't enter due to lower vibration does not mean he does not love you. You forget that we made the choice to separate from him. Not the other way around. It is up to us to find our way home. We were the ones who were arrogant and thought we should rule. He does not hold us back, we do. WHO told you this and WHY do you believe them? No-one told me. I've spent years reading all the world's religious and spiritual texts. The answers are all there and contrary to what people think, they actually complement each other. It's like each tradition is one piece of the whole that is the truth. Most people give up when the bible doesn't make any sense to them. 1. The Fallen Angels 2. The Book of Genesis (Adam & Eve) Since you mention the bible I'm trying to help you understand through that particular work. Now some of us did not make that choice (to be separate), some of us were sort of thrown into it because of the damage that the fallen angels did to the programming of this world. This world was labeled as God's world and the fallen angels took it as their own. They reside in part, in our ego. When we listen to our egos and not our hearts, we are living in the illusion of separation. For all is one. And therefore God is in all and part of all and yet also exists as omnipresent and omnipotent. How do you know to verify? Were you there? |
| FREAK_OUT_NOW!!! (OP) User ID: 679895 United States05/15/2009 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can you please provide the statement by God Himself or the Bible verse that clearly states that God's love is "unconditional" in the first place? Quoting: panthera~oncaThe question presupposes God claimed His love to be unconditional to begin with. 1 John 4:16 And it is My desire to lavish My love on you simply because you are My child and I am your Father… 1 John 3: 1 .......Because I love you with an everlasting love… Jeremiah 31:3 |
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| Bob User ID: 673258 United States05/15/2009 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If he loves you unconditionally... why does he place conditions on your entrance into his kingdom? See John 3:16 - 3:19 lol Quoting: FREAK_OUT_NOW!!!First, let me go on record as saying I'm a total atheist. But I came to be an atheist because of a totally unrelated set of proofs, not this one. That being said. It is possible to love someone and hurt them. In fact, we often do such a thing and call it tough love. Which is more loving? Turning someone you love into the police so he gets treatment for his crack addiction, or giving him money so he can go get more crack when he needs a fix? Any parent will tell you that just because your spawn is throwing a fit is no reason to give him candy. As for why there are conditions for entrance into his kingdom. Having read the responces to this post, I find people are getting the old and new testament mixed up. You really can't compare the two. Old god was a serious asshole. Having jesus really mellowed him out. If we're going with new god, which most christians do, then realize that you can hack, pilliage, maim, rape, kill, sodomize, and cheat on your taxes, as long as before you die, you honestly and truely feel repentant and ask for forgiveness. Now, I know you are saying, THAT'S A CONDITION! The condition is, you honestly have to want to be in heaven. If you don't, then you won't. So really, his only condition is that choose to be in his kingdom, and he respects your choice not to be. I know, I know, who would choose to be in hell. Who chooses to be in an abusive relationship? Who chooses to smoke? Who chooses to drive drunk? Humanity makes it's own hell and it's all because of this obsession with drama. We get caught up in crap that really doesn't matter making things far more complicated then it needs to be. Then again, if we dropped all the BS, life would be boring as all hell. At least if you believe in any of this God crap. If you see something, say nothing, and drink to forget. Welcome to Night Vale. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 418693 United States05/15/2009 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can you please provide the statement by God Himself or the Bible verse that clearly states that God's love is "unconditional" in the first place? Quoting: panthera~oncaThe question presupposes God claimed His love to be unconditional to begin with. Can you provide a statement or quote straight from God? I think not. No-one can. And if you believe the bible, and the bible only, you are in for a world of hurt. Do some research into how the bible came together, how certain gospel's were chosen over others, and why that was so. You'll come to find that a lot of it was done for political posturing. Also research into what the Catholic Church has omitted by means of reincarnation. There were several original passages in the bible that discussed reincarnation. The Church did not pull them out until many years later. And why do you think that was? Because they needed people to believe that the only way to salvation was through them. Buy yourself one of those bibles that highlights Jesus's words in red. That's the closest you'll get to the truth in that book anyway (without the insight for deeper meaning). Do you really think that God would give away all his secrets, especially to those who would use this power for ill? Spread your wings, and so some research. Don't be a sheep. |
| panthera~onca User ID: 679065 United States05/15/2009 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can you please provide the statement by God Himself or the Bible verse that clearly states that God's love is "unconditional" in the first place? Quoting: FREAK_OUT_NOW!!!The question presupposes God claimed His love to be unconditional to begin with. Luke 3:7b (NIV) "You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath?" .... wait... that was god talking... God is love right? wait... maybe not Okay, that is not exactly what I was looking for. How can anyone answer your question accurately when it is founded on inaccurate information and/or facts? Alright, I guess some people might try. You do realize that to take this approach is not exactly honest or fair?  No matter how high the throne one sits on, one sits on one's bottom. * |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 679866 United States05/15/2009 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Buy yourself one of those bibles that highlights Jesus's words in red. That's the closest you'll get to the truth in that book anyway (without the insight for deeper meaning). Do you really think that God would give away all his secrets, especially to those who would use this power for ill? Spread your wings, and so some research. Don't be a sheep. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 418693You're funny.  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 418693 United States05/15/2009 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If he loves you unconditionally... why does he place conditions on your entrance into his kingdom? See John 3:16 - 3:19 lol Quoting: BobFirst, let me go on record as saying I'm a total atheist. But I came to be an atheist because of a totally unrelated set of proofs, not this one. That being said. It is possible to love someone and hurt them. In fact, we often do such a thing and call it tough love. Which is more loving? Turning someone you love into the police so he gets treatment for his crack addiction, or giving him money so he can go get more crack when he needs a fix? Any parent will tell you that just because your spawn is throwing a fit is no reason to give him candy. As for why there are conditions for entrance into his kingdom. Having read the responces to this post, I find people are getting the old and new testament mixed up. You really can't compare the two. Old god was a serious asshole. Having jesus really mellowed him out. If we're going with new god, which most christians do, then realize that you can hack, pilliage, maim, rape, kill, sodomize, and cheat on your taxes, as long as before you die, you honestly and truely feel repentant and ask for forgiveness. Now, I know you are saying, THAT'S A CONDITION! The condition is, you honestly have to want to be in heaven. If you don't, then you won't. So really, his only condition is that choose to be in his kingdom, and he respects your choice not to be. I know, I know, who would choose to be in hell. Who chooses to be in an abusive relationship? Who chooses to smoke? Who chooses to drive drunk? Humanity makes it's own hell and it's all because of this obsession with drama. We get caught up in crap that really doesn't matter making things far more complicated then it needs to be. Then again, if we dropped all the BS, life would be boring as all hell. At least if you believe in any of this God crap. All those little nasties that you do to others will come back on you in later lives. That doesn't mean that access to heaven is cut off for you in between these lives. This world exists as a school. A place for soul evolution. Soon, very, very soon. Most everyone will be shown this. Or actually I should say, remember this. |
| panthera~onca User ID: 679065 United States05/15/2009 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can you please provide the statement by God Himself or the Bible verse that clearly states that God's love is "unconditional" in the first place? Quoting: FREAK_OUT_NOW!!!The question presupposes God claimed His love to be unconditional to begin with. >>>>>>HERE YOU GO.... lol >>>>> "I am not distant and angry, but am the complete expression of love… 1 John 4:16 And it is My desire to lavish My love on you simply because you are My child and I am your Father… 1 John 3: 1 .......Because I love you with an everlasting love… Jeremiah 31:3 Where does this say "unconditional?" No matter how high the throne one sits on, one sits on one's bottom. * |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 669332 United States05/15/2009 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't you get it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 669332Evil create condition (limitation of doing thing) God is simply about to un-condition that ...living without limitation of condition (anything is possible) Return to God is simply like breath of Brahma, you need to explore time and space (expanding) in order to understand that unconditional state/love is build/colored by unlimited fractal of (possible) conditions Simply You understand nothing (about term "unconditional") without ever being conditioned. << taste the limitation of words in understanding this Can you embrace the world without rape, war and famine without ever get the idea about rape war and famine? in words; God is completion instead of entity YOU create condition in order for God to be exist/non-existed. |
| FREAK_OUT_NOW!!! (OP) User ID: 679895 United States05/15/2009 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can you please provide the statement by God Himself or the Bible verse that clearly states that God's love is "unconditional" in the first place? Quoting: panthera~oncaThe question presupposes God claimed His love to be unconditional to begin with. Luke 3:7b (NIV) "You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath?" .... wait... that was god talking... God is love right? wait... maybe not Okay, that is not exactly what I was looking for. How can anyone answer your question accurately when it is founded on inaccurate information and/or facts? Alright, I guess some people might try. You do realize that to take this approach is not exactly honest or fair? 1 John 4:16 And it is My desire to lavish My love on you simply because you are My child and I am your Father… 1 John 3: 1 .......Because I love you with an everlasting love… Jeremiah 31:3 |
| Rota User ID: 678092 United States05/15/2009 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God's Unconditional Love!!! Quoting: FREAK_OUT_NOW!!!I'm not feeling the love right now. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 679866 United States05/15/2009 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Repent now, or you will be freaking out very soon. Quoting: FREAK_OUT_NOW!!!Just some friendly advice.  i love how a threat is disguised as "friendly advice".... christians are sooooo holy... we should emulate them whenever possible...lol Holy as a pair of moth eaten, shitstained drawers. |
| Bob User ID: 673258 United States05/15/2009 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All those little nasties that you do to others will come back on you in later lives. That doesn't mean that access to heaven is cut off for you in between these lives. This world exists as a school. A place for soul evolution. Soon, very, very soon. Most everyone will be shown this. Or actually I should say, remember this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 418693No. There is no heaven or hell. There is no second chance. There is no coming back. If you hurt someone you love in this world and they die, you don't get to make it up to them later. It's this belief in reincarnation and heaven that makes everyone an asshole. What you do matters HERE, while you are alive. God won't punish bad people. God won't reward you for being good. You need to be good because it's the right thing and you will never get a second chance. It's not a school. It's not a game. It is. You got one shot, make it count. If you see something, say nothing, and drink to forget. Welcome to Night Vale. |
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| 9teen.47™ User ID: 679963  United Kingdom05/15/2009 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Doe's anyone remember that old TV show, This Was Your Life... [link to www.chick.com] Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God. Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman]. STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children. |
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| panthera~onca User ID: 679065 United States05/15/2009 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i always thought that god never existed... which seemed to make much more sense than a god who would just as quickly smite you as love you...lol Quoting: FREAK_OUT_NOW!!!.....Okay then..... So.....alright..... .....I see..... Did it ever occur to you that the more you talk about God the more energy you give to that in which you do not believe. That's kinda paradoxical isn't it?  No matter how high the throne one sits on, one sits on one's bottom. * |
| mr...bojangles User ID: 679947  Mexico05/15/2009 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | your relationship with god is a personal experience... it can not be any other way... if it`s not personal it won`t work... prayer is communication with god... meditation generates communion with your soul... your soul is the real you... you are a ray of light from that star (the soul), your soul...the real you... has the power of an entire galaxy... the more you meditate (calm detachment from all mental fetters), the more power (life energy) you receive from the soul.. remember your stay in this realm is a fragment in the economy of your existence.... learn to give to others... but what shall i give...ìf i don`t have anything? give them a smile and be kind.....always be kind... your reward is not in this world... don`t fear the temporary tribulations on the flesh... they are a test for you to build character... and when you finish your task in this world... you will be recieved at the banquet... by all those you have loved and have loved you in eternity, you are not alone... Beyond one's own mind there is no dazzling light to come shining in from outside to wake one up. If one recognizes one's own intrinsic State as pure from the beginning and only temporarily obscured by impurities, and if one maintains the presence of this recognition without becoming distracted, then all the impurities dissolve. This is the essence of the Path-namkhai norbu. Why is there a legend about the descent of Christ into hell? The Teacher addressed the lower strata of the astral world, saying: �Why, by cherishing earthly thoughts, bind oneself eternally to Earth?� And many revolted in spirit and rose higher. Thread: I shot video of the earth from my spacecraft, enjoy! |
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| panthera~onca User ID: 679065 United States05/15/2009 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | See here's the thing..... People talk for only two reasons.... 1. To hear themselves talk 2. To initiate honest communication with other human beings (*option 2 includes the listening part) So the question is who is worth listening to? No matter how high the throne one sits on, one sits on one's bottom. * |
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