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The Gay Gene!!!

 
Sinanju
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By that time, all current gay people would be dead, and there would be no replacement gay people and the "argument" will be moot.


>>This will be the inevitable consequence.



There are too many pro-lifers for that to happen, and the suggestion is just as fucked up as aborting babies for any other gene or "undesirable" down to the sex or hair color of the baby.



>>Darlin', Mankind is fundamentally insane. Never discount the depths of depravity we as a species can drop down too...



Oh, I don't. But part of that insanity includes religion, which includes hard core pro lifers who would never have an abortion.

Take my Mom; I guarantee you she would not have aborted me even if they DID tell her I was going to be gay. She doesn't like it but she wouldn't have killed me.

I know this because I was already not "convenient" LOL.
 Quoting: Riker


>>I am afraid they would end up being a minority. Look no further than our treatment of the japanese in the 40s... Mankind is capable of anything if the right stimulus is provided.

Rest assured though, my gay little chickadee.. I would be fighting on your side.. for the simple fact that I believe we are allowed to live as we wish
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The number of gays will decrease and those that aren't aborted will be taught to be celibate because samesex sex is wrong.
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And it is wrong....why? Because the Bible told you so? Therefore, every gay person on the planet will have to be celibate because YOU think it is wrong? Oh, I forgot. God thinks it is wrong because some ignorant tribesmen on the mental level of the modern Taliban said so in the Bible, and YOU think that is God speaking. Well, according to recent polls in the USA:

1. Support for the equality and acceptance of gay people grows with each passing decade.
2. Christian affiliation drops with each decade.

You are on the wrong side of history, dahling.
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Don't put anything past Bible Thumpers. They will KILL in the name of Jesus (well, they will send their sons to do so). They certainly would have no qualms killing satanic fetuses. "I was impregated in my sleep by the anti-christ who is gay. It is OK to abort the devil's spawn".

Thankfully, such mentally deranged people are still a minority.

My mother was 42 when I was born, and was told she could die, but she bravely went through it. She did almost die, and I was in the hospital 2 months, but we both made it.
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If there were a gay gene then there would totally be no gays because before this generation, they had no same sex families with ways to in vitro a family of their own. So in the past hundreds of generation the gene would have recessed and finally been extinct. Instead it has totally increased: this leads one to conclude being gay is learned behavior.
Or the result of tons of estrogen being being run through the city water supplies and influencing the male children before birth and after.
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Thank you for making it QUITE CLEAR that you have absolutely NO understanding of genetics, or much of anything else.


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Shit happens, hence we have gays. Not natural. Two sexes continues the species. New children increseases the gene pool combinations. Gays do what?
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>>I am afraid they would end up being a minority. Look no further than our treatment of the japanese in the 40s... Mankind is capable of anything if the right stimulus is provided.

Rest assured though, my gay little chickadee.. I would be fighting on your side.. for the simple fact that I believe we are allowed to live as we wish
 Quoting: Sinanju 688799


hf

I think I love you Sinanju! :-)



Personally, this is all moot since the world as we know it will not exist much longer anyway.
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Riker

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Don't put anything past Bible Thumpers. They will KILL in the name of Jesus (well, they will send their sons to do so). They certainly would have no qualms killing satanic fetuses. "I was impregated in my sleep by the anti-christ who is gay. It is OK to abort the devil's spawn".

Thankfully, such mentally deranged people are still a minority.

My mother was 42 when I was born, and was told she could die, but she bravely went through it. She did almost die, and I was in the hospital 2 months, but we both made it.
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Assuming that all Christians are the same is ridiculous, stupid and incorrect.
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As a Christian, I don't want to judge you as a person but do feel fine about judging your actions. If a child does something wrong--shoplifting, breaking windows--you love the child but reprimand the action. I don't have to like what you do but I can still love you as a person.
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I bet the gay gene, if found is linked 10000% to the pedophile gene, as 95% of gay males have been molested by another man in their childhood.
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Ok.......couldn't resist. Want to start by saying that I am not a homo-phobe and definitely not someone that hates gay people. What I do hate however.......is what happened to people that are gay. The pink elephant (not trying to be funny) in the room has always been molestation. Everyone wants to argue over genes, tendencies, hormone levels, etc. etc. The thing I rarely ever see is the real cause of the majority of people being gay...........they were molested as children or young adults. The older I get the more I realize that there is not one single family that has been spared of this in some fashion. People are possessed by entities that desire to be able to inhabit another vessel. That is what is real. I am not in any way throwing stones at the OP or anyone that is gay. I have known many that are.........a guy that works for me now is married but in a not so hidden homosexual affair with a gay guy. He has 2 kids and is an extremely talented musician. He also is very emotionally unstable at times. That is the other thing no one wants to talk about. Gay people are not happy at a soul level. They have been violated and abused and it is what is now 'inside' them that is speaking with such conviction that the OP has about defending the practice of being gay. It is not natural. No one can argue it is. A male is physically not made to be with another male. Gay people know this. They know it on a tortured soul level far deeper than argumentative rhetoric. I have never met a homosexual that is really happy with themselves deep down. Never. They are usually extremely moody and battle depression constantly. They almost always believe in stark contrast from the morals of Christians. I do however agree with the OP that a lot of professing Christians drive away gay people because of their hate towards them. That is wrong. But quite frankly.......so is homosexuality. It just is. I for one know that those that are gay would secretly, in many cases, not be so and wish they were not. I lived down the street from a guy who had a little boy and a pretty wife. He was very affluent and had all the right 'things'. He had a really nice house, cars, boats, motorcycles, etc. etc. He made very good money for someone as young as he was....(mid 30's). He was a nice looking guy. He had what everyone in this materialistic world would say is a great life. Problem is, he had a secret. He was always having to take 'all boys' trips that usually coincided with gay parades/rallies in certain towns. The minute I met him I knew he was what I call a hider. They hide behind the wife and kids. He has had many many affairs with other hiders and openly gay men. He thinks that his secret is safe. Some people that he has been with have talked. His time of hiding is almost up. One disturbing fact to this however is his 4 year old son. He has been developing bruises on his lower back that look like thumb prints. His mom asked me if I thought her husband was gay. I said definitely. She said she was concerned something was happening to her son. Point is, gay men molest. They molest because they are driven to do so. They molest because they were. One day soon the truth of how much sexual abuse pervades our society is going to be openly discussed.............instead of hidden ! There is no gay gene........but there are gay spirits that possess people. That is the real issue.

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for the above post.
"That's all I have to say about that" - Forrest Gump
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Ok.......couldn't resist. Want to start by saying that I am not a homo-phobe and definitely not someone that hates gay people. What I do hate however.......is what happened to people that are gay. The pink elephant (not trying to be funny) in the room has always been molestation. Everyone wants to argue over genes, tendencies, hormone levels, etc. etc. The thing I rarely ever see is the real cause of the majority of people being gay...........they were molested as children or young adults. The older I get the more I realize that there is not one single family that has been spared of this in some fashion. People are possessed by entities that desire to be able to inhabit another vessel. That is what is real. I am not in any way throwing stones at the OP or anyone that is gay. I have known many that are.........a guy that works for me now is married but in a not so hidden homosexual affair with a gay guy. He has 2 kids and is an extremely talented musician. He also is very emotionally unstable at times. That is the other thing no one wants to talk about. Gay people are not happy at a soul level. They have been violated and abused and it is what is now 'inside' them that is speaking with such conviction that the OP has about defending the practice of being gay. It is not natural. No one can argue it is. A male is physically not made to be with another male. Gay people know this. They know it on a tortured soul level far deeper than argumentative rhetoric. I have never met a homosexual that is really happy with themselves deep down. Never. They are usually extremely moody and battle depression constantly. They almost always believe in stark contrast from the morals of Christians. I do however agree with the OP that a lot of professing Christians drive away gay people because of their hate towards them. That is wrong. But quite frankly.......so is homosexuality. It just is. I for one know that those that are gay would secretly, in many cases, not be so and wish they were not. I lived down the street from a guy who had a little boy and a pretty wife. He was very affluent and had all the right 'things'. He had a really nice house, cars, boats, motorcycles, etc. etc. He made very good money for someone as young as he was....(mid 30's). He was a nice looking guy. He had what everyone in this materialistic world would say is a great life. Problem is, he had a secret. He was always having to take 'all boys' trips that usually coincided with gay parades/rallies in certain towns. The minute I met him I knew he was what I call a hider. They hide behind the wife and kids. He has had many many affairs with other hiders and openly gay men. He thinks that his secret is safe. Some people that he has been with have talked. His time of hiding is almost up. One disturbing fact to this however is his 4 year old son. He has been developing bruises on his lower back that look like thumb prints. His mom asked me if I thought her husband was gay. I said definitely. She said she was concerned something was happening to her son. Point is, gay men molest. They molest because they are driven to do so. They molest because they were. One day soon the truth of how much sexual abuse pervades our society is going to be openly discussed.............instead of hidden ! There is no gay gene........but there are gay spirits that possess people. That is the real issue.
 Quoting: KEVAN



Thank you Kevan for saying what I know from experience to be true.
But you will get slammed by those who insist that 'pedophiles are straight, not gay.' That is just not so. "People ARE possessed by entities that desire to be able to inhabit another vessel." That is what sodomy is really all about,
it is a mechanism for these entities (they are actually plasma lifeforms) to download themselves into our carbon-based bodies. Sodomy really isn't about 'sex' at all. We just think it is. These plasma lifeforms can influence
our perceptions so that they can use our bodies this way and we 'like' it.
They are in 'takeover' mode right now with all the political correctness about sodomite lifestyles. Their is a reason most traditional cultures are very leary of endorsing sodomy and we are stupid to not pay attention to their warnings.
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>>I am afraid they would end up being a minority. Look no further than our treatment of the japanese in the 40s... Mankind is capable of anything if the right stimulus is provided.

Rest assured though, my gay little chickadee.. I would be fighting on your side.. for the simple fact that I believe we are allowed to live as we wish

 Quoting: Riker


agree: :)

but I have read and have friends who fit the following senario --- pregnant women or women before pregnancy
who had thyroid medication had children that were gay.

I am not sure if its the introduction of the medicine
or the imbalance of the thyroid that causes chemical
imbalances in the baby === don't know just repeating something I read in the 80's and I have 2 friends one female
who's mother --had hyper thyroid since she was a teenager
another male who also had hyper thyroid before and during pregnancy.

I do not know of any hypo thyroid person or heard of anything it seems to be with the mother having hyper-thyroid

It doesn't matter according a "spiritualist" I know
says it's all hogwash and most man that are BORN that way because it can also be a CHOICE --- didn't get to finish their prior reincarnation as a woman or were not ready to let go of that experience yet---
She says that besides the point our soul and spirit is both
male and female ---so those who are bi-sexual are probably
more in tune to their real "spiritual" self's then most
of us "normal" people.

Well go ahead ---- have fun with this post

just saying...
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no gay gene
since there no genes
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>>I am afraid they would end up being a minority. Look no further than our treatment of the japanese in the 40s... Mankind is capable of anything if the right stimulus is provided.

Rest assured though, my gay little chickadee.. I would be fighting on your side.. for the simple fact that I believe we are allowed to live as we wish



agree: :)

but I have read and have friends who fit the following senario --- pregnant women or women before pregnancy
who had thyroid medication had children that were gay.

I am not sure if its the introduction of the medicine
or the imbalance of the thyroid that causes chemical
imbalances in the baby === don't know just repeating something I read in the 80's and I have 2 friends one female
who's mother --had hyper thyroid since she was a teenager
another male who also had hyper thyroid before and during pregnancy.

I do not know of any hypo thyroid person or heard of anything it seems to be with the mother having hyper-thyroid

It doesn't matter according a "spiritualist" I know
says it's all hogwash and most man that are BORN that way because it can also be a CHOICE --- didn't get to finish their prior reincarnation as a woman or were not ready to let go of that experience yet---
She says that besides the point our soul and spirit is both
male and female ---so those who are bi-sexual are probably
more in tune to their real "spiritual" self's then most
of us "normal" people.

Well go ahead ---- have fun with this post

just saying...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 509724




wow no - comments regarding my "findings or theories or what-ya-ma-call-it blabbing
under-dreaming  (OP)

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Ok.......couldn't resist. Want to start by saying that I am not a homo-phobe and definitely not someone that hates gay people. What I do hate however.......is what happened to people that are gay. The pink elephant (not trying to be funny) in the room has always been molestation. Everyone wants to argue over genes, tendencies, hormone levels, etc. etc. The thing I rarely ever see is the real cause of the majority of people being gay...........they were molested as children or young adults. The older I get the more I realize that there is not one single family that has been spared of this in some fashion. People are possessed by entities that desire to be able to inhabit another vessel. That is what is real. I am not in any way throwing stones at the OP or anyone that is gay. I have known many that are.........a guy that works for me now is married but in a not so hidden homosexual affair with a gay guy. He has 2 kids and is an extremely talented musician. He also is very emotionally unstable at times. That is the other thing no one wants to talk about. Gay people are not happy at a soul level. They have been violated and abused and it is what is now 'inside' them that is speaking with such conviction that the OP has about defending the practice of being gay. It is not natural. No one can argue it is. A male is physically not made to be with another male. Gay people know this. They know it on a tortured soul level far deeper than argumentative rhetoric. I have never met a homosexual that is really happy with themselves deep down. Never. They are usually extremely moody and battle depression constantly. They almost always believe in stark contrast from the morals of Christians. I do however agree with the OP that a lot of professing Christians drive away gay people because of their hate towards them. That is wrong. But quite frankly.......so is homosexuality. It just is. I for one know that those that are gay would secretly, in many cases, not be so and wish they were not. I lived down the street from a guy who had a little boy and a pretty wife. He was very affluent and had all the right 'things'. He had a really nice house, cars, boats, motorcycles, etc. etc. He made very good money for someone as young as he was....(mid 30's). He was a nice looking guy. He had what everyone in this materialistic world would say is a great life. Problem is, he had a secret. He was always having to take 'all boys' trips that usually coincided with gay parades/rallies in certain towns. The minute I met him I knew he was what I call a hider. They hide behind the wife and kids. He has had many many affairs with other hiders and openly gay men. He thinks that his secret is safe. Some people that he has been with have talked. His time of hiding is almost up. One disturbing fact to this however is his 4 year old son. He has been developing bruises on his lower back that look like thumb prints. His mom asked me if I thought her husband was gay. I said definitely. She said she was concerned something was happening to her son. Point is, gay men molest. They molest because they are driven to do so. They molest because they were. One day soon the truth of how much sexual abuse pervades our society is going to be openly discussed.............instead of hidden ! There is no gay gene........but there are gay spirits that possess people. That is the real issue.
 Quoting: KEVAN


Sexual abuse is something that most people deal with. Often times, a person reacts to sexual abuse by directing their actions towards the desire to control their environment. Choosing to abuse alcohol/drugs, choosing to fornicate with members of the same or opposite sex - these are all done in the name of control. That is what lifts the pain. When someone is taken advantage of, they have no control. People, on the primary level of consciousness, wish to be in control of themselves. I believe that it is a good argument to say that this behavior probably should not be considered true homosexuality. However, because of the high frequency of occurrence (of sexual abuse among people), people who are truly homosexual are also being abused as children/young adults (not all, but some). So we must keep this in mind when factoring all of the information.

Homosexual behavior can be manifested as a psychological reaction to intense stress. Because of this, heterosexuals presenting with homosexual behavior (whether it is short-term or long-term) shouldn't be used as an argument against the existence of the genetic predisposition of homosexuality. It often is, but this argument is not thought through. Humans display a wide array of behavioral changes through stress. Some of these may not last very long, where others can actually last a lifetime.

The argument that homosexuality is purely brought on by psychological stress is not sound. There are homosexuals living today that have not been sexually molested into a psychological shift that manifested as homosexual behavior.

The gay gene argument lives on!
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The story starts with Katherine Dalton, a gorgeous blonde model who from an early age was attracted to girls. She believed she was a man trapped in a woman's hot babe-alicious body. As a result, she decided to consult a psychotherapist who referred her to a gender expert. The expert said she was a transsexual who should go through the arduous path to becoming a man. She changed her name to Adrian and started taking testosterone.

In 2005, Adrian had her/his supple and presumably perky 32C breasts removed. In 2007, Adrian had a hysterectomy. Six weeks ago, Adrian went to Belgium for an eight-hour phalloplasty where arm and thigh skin is removed and configured to form a facsimile of male genitalia.

It could be contended that everything occurring to Dalton thus far makes sense with the glaring exception that he/she became a gay male. It appears that sexual orientation can be changed via the scalpel which has to be disturbing to those individuals who contend that homosexuality is genetic. Uh, or maybe it proves that homosexuality is genetic -- hell, I don't know.


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This Thead is gay.
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This Thead is gay.
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Thanks for the bump though.
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The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals.
Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them.
One declares so many things to be a crime
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~ Ayn Rand 1905-1982
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Molestation has nothing to do with whether or not people are gay.

Plenty of gay people have never been sexually and/or emotionally harmed in their lives that way....

And plenty of straight people have.

That's fucking stupid.
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