BREAKING: US Federal Court Upholds Gun Ban, Says Supreme Court Ruling On 2nd Amendment Doesn't Apply To States

this is how they are gonna try and do it...say its a federal right not a state or lower government right...its gonna get worse

Try to do it? Damn, they ARE doing it!!!

Their saying as a state's right the voter can vote out the gun law in their state or at least should be able to to do that which is fudging the Constitution.
But even in Dodge City you had to check your firearms at the city limits.

So maybe it should be the choice of the city's?

But the Feds can't have it both ways by first telling the States that they must adhere to all Federal gun laws, and then turning around and saying they can ban guns.

hey op you need to change that "automatic weapons", to
semi automatic weapons,
cause normal people can't own "automatic weapons",
in america
it's very misleeding.

It's not mine to change, it's the exact wording of the Bloomberg article...go to the link and see.

BTW...US citizens CAN own automatic weapons.

The legal ownership of automatic weapons is a complicated process. Below is a brief summary of the current legal requirements focusing on private ownership. It is no means exhaustive and anyone considering private ownership is advised to consult a competent dealer regarding the details and requirements in your state.

The ownership of machineguns was first regulated at the federal level by the National Firearms Act of 1934. This act establishes the need for the approval of the Treasury to transfer or own a machine gun along with the payment of a $200.00 tax each time a weapon is transferred to or among individual collectors. In addition the weapons are registered in a federal database. These procedures remain in effect today as part of the federal tax code though they are administered by the Bureau Of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

A second federal statute, The Firearms Owners' Protection Act of May 19, 1986, created two broad classes of automatic weapons. Guns manufactured and registered prior to the acts date which can be owned by civilians. These are called “transferable guns”. Those manufactured on or following the acts date are restricted to manufacturers, dealers and government entities. There are additional restrictions on dealers and manufactures which are not detailed here.

Certain states have additional requirements on machine gun ownership over and above the federal regulations noted above. Some states ban ownership totally. In Massachusetts, for instance, an additional state License To Possess A Machine Gun granted by the local police department is required. To qualify you must be a certified firearms instructor or bonafied collector of firearms.

The first step in ownership is to locate the transferable firearm of your choice via a qualified dealer in your state. You may then begin the transfer process but may not take possession of the firearm until the transfer is approved. The entire process can take a few months to complete.

The transfer process involves submitting an application with photographs and fingerprints signed by your local Chief Law Enforcement Officer to the Bureau Of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives along with a $200.00 transfer tax payment. Upon completion of a federal background check the Bureau will approve or deny the application. If approved a copy of the application is returned to you with the required tax stamp attached. At this point you may take possession of the firearm from the dealer.
[link to www.hansonshoot.com]

ya that would fit with them uber arming thew police with m16's and other stuff.

the whole thin with guns anyway, is they would only be use localy, and not against the fed governments,

would allso explain the fema and dhs spending all that cash to get all the states emergency centers up and running.

yup this would explain alot of fed programs for states in the last 5 years.

Where does one start?
Washington DC isn't a state or a "city".

All we need is the right to vote out the people that make the gun laws in the first place, and then make a new gun law after that.
The Law is the gun
so we do need gun law.

i said not normal people.

and if you knew anyone with ffl you'd know the whole
automatic weapons thing take lots of cash and time and even then i think the atf has the finel say on if you get it
or not.

and sorry,
if that story had the words " automatic weapons",
like you put in your post them that fucked up,
casue normal people don't use them.
you know that right?

In Obama's own hometown of all places.
Gee, no symbolism there!

At the Federal level gun law becomes politicized.
not good

At the state level it's to easy to manipulate the law and cause fear to spread of not owning firearm.

Montana Law Short-Circuits Federal Gun Laws

This is a rush transcript from "Glenn Beck," May 15, 2009.

BECK: And Joel Boniek. I'm sorry, I don't have my glasses. Joel and Gary are from Montana. You can tell because you don't see a lot of these on the streets of New York. Gary, this was actually your idea, this gun law. You started it. Tell me the theory behind it.

MARBUT: Well, the theory is to challenge the commerce clause power of Congress with a Tenth Amendment spin. What the bill says — there's now a law in Montana — is that any firearms, ammunitions and firearms accessories made and retained in Montana are simply not subject to any federal jurisdiction under the power of Congress to regulate commerce among the states

BECK: OK. Joel, you put this in. You're a state rep. You put it in. The governor signed it. It's now law. It goes into effect October 1st?

REP. JOEL BONIEK, MONTANA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES: Correct.

BECK: OK. Why did you do this?

BONIEK: I believe that the purpose of government is to protect our life, liberty and our property. And when I saw this idea, I had been aware that the federal government has been overreaching in its power for a long time. And I thought, you know, this is something that appeals to me. And I didn't go to the legislature to be rubber stamped for more regulation. I went there to protect people's freedom, and this is a great vehicle to do that.

BECK: OK. So Gary, how does this work now? I go in and I buy — I mean, I don't have to have a federal background check on guns if this goes in?

MARBUT: Once this begins to bear fruit, that's correct. We plan to litigate this through the courts. And we have some other strategies we are working to effectuate this, but we all have to wait until it is resolved in the courts, I think.
[link to www.foxnews.com]

City should have the right to isolate firearms at the city limits. Federal law, make it so.

its a little city who cares

WELL HERE IT IS FOLKS

YOU BETTER CALL YOUR REPS AND STOP THIS OR YOU WILL HAVE A REAL FIGHT IN YOUR HANDS

HERE IS THE GUN CONTROL IN REAL TIME!!

HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009
Please send this to everybody on your list...

this is Obama gun control by secrecy.


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Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the House.
This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act of 2009.
We just learned yesterday about this on the Peter Boyles radio program.
Even gun shop owners didn't know about this because it is flying under the radar.
To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45 or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the information.


Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:

..It is registered
..You are fingerprinted
.You supply a current Driver's License
.You supply your Social Security #
.You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing
.Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25
- Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail.


.There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child under 18.

The Government
would have the right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 yrs. in prison.

If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your pick of many options to read this..

[link to www.opencongress.org]

It is long and lengthy. But, more and more people are becoming aware of this. Pass the wordalong.

FAILURE TO DO SO AT YOUR PERIL!


Any hunters in your family - pass this along.


Peter Boyles is on this and having guests. Listen to him on KHOW 630 a.m. in the morning.


He suggests the best way to fight this is to tell all your friends about it and "spring into action".

Also he suggests we all join a pro-gun group like the Colorado Rifle Association, hunting associations, gun clubs and especially the NRA..

This is just a "termite" approach to complete confiscation of guns and disarming of our society to the point we have no defense - chip away a little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone realizes it.



This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not.

The Second Amendment... .America's original homeland security


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Remember this statement:

When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty!

"When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government [or the IRS, for that matter], you have Tyranny."
(Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration of Independence of the United States)

The Natural Right to self protection is simply overlooked ? That's what the 2nd Amendment was all about .

Be that as it may this smells like a setup to me . Got the Sotomayor woman on deck taking the fallacious "well regulated Militia" means gove control stand , and who knows waiting in the wings should she go down , the SCotUS is getting fully packed to make another power grab .

Normal people do use them. You would be surprised how wrong you are about all those assumptions you just threw down as facts.

I have an FFL, Class 1. Owning a pre-1986 manufactured automatic weapon is easy for any American to do, all it takes is some paperwork and if it is not EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED by the laws in your state, nobody can stop you if you want one. All it takes is some correctly filled out paperwork , a legal entity (LLC or corporation), and a $200.00 Treasury stamp. Believe me, I have a stack of them.

Every NFA weapon I own is separate from my FFL business, which could also deal in automatic weapons, but only to Police departments, Federal Agencies, the Army, etc... and for a yearly tax of $500 bucks. I think. THAT requires BATFE approval that can be denied.

I do not deal automatic weapons of any kind, the market is rather saturated and it would be a waste of money in taxes.

So it can go both ways then.

Pro-constitution states versus anti-constitution states.

Anyone else get the sinking feeling we're being set up for a civil war?

molon labe....


come and TAKE em.

you act surprised. welcome to the nwo pal.

it's simply a matter of time
when and where will the first shot be fired?

[THEY WANT TO BAN AS MUCH BLUE STEEL AS POSSIBLE BEFORE MARTIAL LAW KICKS IN

EASIER TO MANAGE THIS WAY

SS TROOPS HAVE A GLIMMER IN DA' EYE NOW!b]

Good question.

Since it's the NRA's lawyers that are going to wind up arguing the case in front of the Supre Court, maybe we should write them a few letters pointing this out.

An excellent argument, point of law-wise.

Bear in mind that the founding fathers tried every
non violent means to get their point across before the shooting started.

We should do the same.

Even if the opposition are a bunch of criminal scumbags.

This makes no sense.

States should not have the right to usurp constitutional rights!

If they do - they shouldn't be freakin' states.

So what's next? A state can rule that you have no right to free speech, and an official already elected can refuse to leave office and become a dictator of the state?

Good grief.

The people should rise up.

The nra is bullshit.
buncha fucking pussy poser lames.
Sent them my "life member" shit many years ago. told em where to stuff the package.

Read Presser v. Ill.
U.S. v. Miller.
and Cruikshank(sp?)

If the law is wrong, fuck the law.

In times of injustice, the just become outlaws.

Ain't YOU one of "the people"?

Gonna cower in your bathwater when they come for YOUR guns?