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Where Do You Think The Suicider's Soul Goes?

 
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well i see it like this.

If you have a terminal disease say, like dementia, and you shuffle off and take some pills to stop your family from suffering because they will spend the next 10-20 years wiping your arse and mopping up your dribble, i would say its a self sacrifice so others will have a better life.

In that case, up you go.

If its because your ill mentally, then its not your fault its a chemical imbalance, and thus, out of your hands.

In that case, up you go.

If you do it to be a bastard to some one and make them feel bad? your damned, and you'll come back as a female muslim in Afghanistan with a camel raping stick wielding women hating husband and father.
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This is how I see it as well.
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They repeat the same act every 7 days.
Even they get reincarnated, they carry the same tendency to do the same thing.

It is not worth it.
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hell
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Only God can judge the spiritual condition of a soul and know his/her final decisions (Pro.29:26, Psa.75:7).
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We are not at liberty to say, but instead seek the giver of life first in order to know the result of death.
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Re: Where Do You Think The Suicider's Soul Goes?
a scuicide is a very big mistake...

you get sent back to earth...

iwthout choosing your reincarantion...

which means that you will end up heavily disabled in some way...

in your human condition...

you may have to live the years that your forfeited..

in a whellchair..

or worse...

cosmic law can not be violated without consequences...


What a crock.

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Ditto
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06/06/2009 08:43 AM
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Re: Where Do You Think The Suicider's Soul Goes?
a suicider's soul goes to god.because god is the only person to jugde another
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06/07/2009 01:49 PM
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Re: Where Do You Think The Suicider's Soul Goes?
true, but the person didn't live their life to it's natural conclusion, so there might be lessons they were going to learn that they didn't, so they will have to reincarnate and redo it basically.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 688396


If everyone is here to learn lessons why the eff is the world going so wrong?

It looks like the guides up there in charge of our souls don't really care about the planet. They let millions of babies die from starvation, they allow millions to be killed by wars and genocide. They also seem to be blind to the suffering of billions of animals who get killed in barbaric ways..

What kind of ghoulish school is this planet? Would you send your kid to such a school to learn lessons?
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Re: Where Do You Think The Suicider's Soul Goes?
a scuicide is a very big mistake...

you get sent back to earth...

iwthout choosing your reincarantion...

which means that you will end up heavily disabled in some way...

in your human condition...

you may have to live the years that your forfeited..

in a whellchair..

or worse...

cosmic law can not be violated without consequences...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 689786


So you are acknowledging that we are living in a prison planet and if we try to escape before our term is over we get punished?

Do you realize that even man-made earthly laws do not allow such kind of cruel punishment? In no country of the world, an escaped convict's hands or legs are cut off..

If such cruel laws are cosmic laws than I would say the imperfect laws of our world are more divine.. s226
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Re: Where Do You Think The Suicider's Soul Goes?
The same place everyone's soul goes: on to another life.

People I know who have past-life recall that includes a life that ended in suicide don't fare any worse than anyone else.
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Re: Where Do You Think The Suicider's Soul Goes?
aside from having to relearn the karmic lesson over again in another lifetime, not a whole lot in the grand scheme of things. We are all innocent, and all will ultimately reach the same destination, just at different "speeds"
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Interesting.
Every aspect of your view opposes Scripture...
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Re: Where Do You Think The Suicider's Soul Goes?
I believe that the soul is counselled then strongly encouraged to return to a similar life situation for the next life,where hopefully they will be given the strength to live through the adversity and leave this life naturally.
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well i see it like this.

If you have a terminal disease say, like dementia, and you shuffle off and take some pills to stop your family from suffering because they will spend the next 10-20 years wiping your arse and mopping up your dribble, i would say its a self sacrifice so others will have a better life.

In that case, up you go.

If its because your ill mentally, then its not your fault its a chemical imbalance, and thus, out of your hands.

In that case, up you go.

If you do it to be a bastard to some one and make them feel bad? your damned, and you'll come back as a female muslim in Afghanistan with a camel raping stick wielding women hating husband and father.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 695118

probably not far from the truth
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I like the movie, Wristcutters. Interesting take there!

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Oh, the horror of such a fate! can anyone hear of it and not shudder to think what the bitter weariness and discontent of life, and a reckless desire to be free of it at any cost, may plunge the soul into.

With these powers came again the passions and desires of his earthly life and also the knowledge of how he could yet gratify them. And again as in his earthly life he sought oblivion for his sorrow and bitterness in the pleasures of the senses. But he sought in vain.
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I believe that the soul is counselled then strongly encouraged to return to a similar life situation for the next life,where hopefully they will be given the strength to live through the adversity and leave this life naturally.
 Quoting: Childoflight 697177


Isn't it odd that these counsellers in heaven never get in contact with dying babies in africa? they don't seem to care much about the suffering of billions of animals who get eaten alive or cooked..

From all the accounts of astral worlds I've read, it appears that heaven is just a slightly brighter and peppier version of earth, but not really much different.. People up there have jobs and just like people on earth, these counsellors have their noses buried in the jobs they have been assigned. They don't ask too many questions and are content to just do their assigned tasks, completely trusting their higher authorities..lol
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Re: Where Do You Think The Suicider's Soul Goes?
suicides... don't get to reincarnate -here...they become disembodied spirits because they are so selfish and self centered, that they need to be isolated from "normal" society. While disembodied they have access to the Ascheric records, so their consciousness continues to grow...but most are disinterested in progress.

they are eventually given new bodies and reincarnate on a "twin" planet, after everyone else has finished the incarnation process on this one, there they are the "old souls" and can get all the attention they crave, by teaching other service to self individuals, higher intelligence.

some of these individuals try to cheat that process by stealing other depressed and self centered individual's bodies, but it doesn't work, and they both become miserable. Those "channelers,mediums and guru" who displace their own "souls" and allow others to "walk-in" suffer this same fate.

When this planet moves to a higher dimension...those who are not willing to progress to that level NOW and who are STS will also incarnate on that twin planet. Even though it will be a long and slow process requiring many many incarnations, to bring that planet's consciousness up to even this point...it will happen but while there, they will not be allowed to slow down the rest of us who are not self centered and who understand equality and oneness.

we will be able to visit them there but they won't be able to visit us here, until their entire planet has completed its "ascension" process...it is not a punishment, they have just chosen to slow their own progress down to a crawl and desire more time...this way, they don't hamper the progress of others because the timeless state of the next era that we will be living in, we will not experience the loss of their company and can still assist them with our understanding and compassion.
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Re: Where Do You Think The Suicider's Soul Goes?
With the Carradine thing today and reports of a possible hanging death, where do you think the souls go?

Hell?

A Time Out Place?

Reincarnation?

Heaven?

Vegas?

What do you think the consequences are for killing yourself?
 Quoting: MercurialStorm

none.
most of us are killing ourselves daily...
alcohol, smoking, taking risks.
all is allowed under the Creator.
we are here to experience.
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I believe that the soul is counselled then strongly encouraged to return to a similar life situation for the next life,where hopefully they will be given the strength to live through the adversity and leave this life naturally.
 Quoting: Childoflight 697177

wishfull thinking.
natural death by heart attack from unhealthy living.
natural death from being in a car accident.
death is death
end of this physical.
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Re: Where Do You Think The Suicider's Soul Goes?
suicides... don't get to reincarnate -here...they become disembodied spirits because they are so selfish and self centered, that they need to be isolated from "normal" society. While disembodied they have access to the Ascheric records, so their consciousness continues to grow...but most are disinterested in progress.

they are eventually given new bodies and reincarnate on a "twin" planet, after everyone else has finished the incarnation process on this one, there they are the "old souls" and can get all the attention they crave, by teaching other service to self individuals, higher intelligence.

some of these individuals try to cheat that process by stealing other depressed and self centered individual's bodies, but it doesn't work, and they both become miserable. Those "channelers,mediums and guru" who displace their own "souls" and allow others to "walk-in" suffer this same fate.

When this planet moves to a higher dimension...those who are not willing to progress to that level NOW and who are STS will also incarnate on that twin planet. Even though it will be a long and slow process requiring many many incarnations, to bring that planet's consciousness up to even this point...it will happen but while there, they will not be allowed to slow down the rest of us who are not self centered and who understand equality and oneness.

we will be able to visit them there but they won't be able to visit us here, until their entire planet has completed its "ascension" process...it is not a punishment, they have just chosen to slow their own progress down to a crawl and desire more time...this way, they don't hamper the progress of others because the timeless state of the next era that we will be living in, we will not experience the loss of their company and can still assist them with our understanding and compassion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 683607


What crap!! Suicidees suffer from mental, spiritual or physical plane that you can't even imagine.

When you go on a journey either as a tourist or for work, but the journey becomes unbearable what do you do? Cut the trip short and come back. At the worse, you will lose your job.

Nobody will disembody you..LOL

Some assholes who don't understand your agony might call you selfish, but you won't become isolated unless you want to..

There is life everywhere in the universe.. billions of star systems.. You can become imprisoned by force, but not isolated because you got bored or tired of your journey to earth and ended the trip.. tounge
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Re: Where Do You Think The Suicider's Soul Goes?
in the above post, replace 'plane' in the first sentence with 'agony'
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Re: Where Do You Think The Suicider's Soul Goes?
This is what happened to a suicide in the book
Wanderer in the Spirit Lands
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Thank you for posting this! It makes wading through the cesspool called GLP worthwhile, to find the hidden diamonds.
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Re: Where Do You Think The Suicider's Soul Goes?
can't fall out of the universe.
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Re: Where Do You Think The Suicider's Soul Goes?
What do you think the consequences are for killing yourself?
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Reincarnation. Until you get it right.
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Re: Where Do You Think The Suicider's Soul Goes?
First of all I've not died so this is just presumptions on my part.

I don't believe in reincarnation.

I was taught that I was created UNIQUE, if I'm unique why would I take on another body? Why would my soul want to come back into this crazy world?

I believe that God will forgive me if I ever choose to go the suicide route. Why? because in a moment of insanity or of intense depression I could end up one day taking my life. The devil created hell here on earth, with every temptation at our fingertips. Our laws here on earth dictate that if you are ill you can be forgiven.
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Re: Where Do You Think The Suicider's Soul Goes?
It goes where it needs to go to continue its progress....

Everything flows.

Linear (re-)incarnation is alien agenda. For humans not only it does not happen , but it also does not make sense: if you lose your memory, it makes absolutely no difference for you whether you are _re_incarnating or incarnating for the first time. Linear reincarnation is for aliens that like to play it safe by conserving their memory across lives.


Humans (the real ones) are simultaneous incarnations like chess pieces on a 5th dimensional plane. Each chess piece is an incarnation in a certain timeline. The incarnations happen "simultaneously" from a 5th dimensional perspective. You are several people at the same "time". Once this cycle of existence ends, each one of your incarnations are going to ascend together.

Remember: Time is only LINEAR from our perspective inside the third dimension here on Earth.

Last Edited by gus. on 08/02/2009 08:55 AM
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Re: Where Do You Think The Suicider's Soul Goes?
I don't believe in reincarnation.

I was taught that I was created UNIQUE, if I'm unique why would I take on another body? Why would my soul want to come back into this crazy world?
 Quoting: whisprgently


Question: Are you here for a reason? Does your life actually have a purpose?

If you believe you are here for a reason, and that your life actually has a purpose, it would seem suicide matters. Some things you should have experienced and learned from never got to happen. Some people you were to meet and influence and be influenced by, never crossed your path.

All because YOU CHICKENED OUT!

If life's a school, the suicider is a dropout.

Why is it so hard to imagine your soul would want a second chance if you screwed up and committed suicide?

Of course, you're probably a Christian who thinks reincarnation is false teachings, because that's what you've been taught.

Christians don't see any purpose to their lives, other than finding Jesus, and they already got that one down. But the Bible sneers at suicide too. How come? If you're already "born again", why wouldn't it be alright for you to take an early leave?

Think about it. I'm not a Christian, but even I know Christians are supposed to be Spiritual Soldiers, loyal to God. Now, loyal soldiers don't leave their post in the middle of a fierce battle, do they?

Stand firm, Christian Soldier.

If you kill yourself, and regret it in the afterlife, why wouldn't you want to make up for it with another life, a life spent in deeper obedience and service to God than the one you just foolishly threw away?

And why wouldn't your loving Father let you?

Jesus said, even we lowly humans know to give our children GOOD GIFTS. How much more wouldn't God wish to give His Children GOOD GIFTS?

The standard Christian version of "God", is a vengeful God, not a loving God. It's a God that knows even less about love and forgiveness than we humans do. I don't believe in that kind of God.





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