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Schwarzenegger: Don't blame state budget deficit on illegal immigrants

Published: Saturday, Jun. 6, 2009

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Friday disputed claims that illegal immigrants caused California's $24.3 billion deficit, while he praised their economic contributions and said he is "happy" they have access to services.

The Republican governor, answering wide-ranging questions from The Bee's editorial board and its readers, also vented about roadblocks to his authority posed by political foes and warned that government can't sustain the current level of "unbelievable benefits" for public-sector workers.

In response to dozens of questions from readers who say the state ought to wipe out the deficit by eliminating services for illegal immigrants, the governor said it is a "myth" that those immigrants are to blame.

He said the cost of services to illegal immigrants, which has been estimated at $4 billion to $5 billion annually, is a "small percentage" of the deficit California faces.

"Yes, it is something that ought to be dealt with, but the fact of the matter is, I think it's an easy scapegoat for people to point the finger and say, 'Our budget is out of whack because of illegal immigrants.' "

"It's not," he added. "Our budget is out of whack because we have self-inflicted wounds that the Legislature and this state has never really sat down and had the will to go and make the necessary changes that have to be made."

The governor noted that the federal government requires California to provide emergency health care and education to illegal immigrants. Schwarzenegger in 2006 renounced his 1994 vote for Proposition 187, the initiative to block most services for illegal immigrants, which courts deemed unconstitutional.

"You know something, as far as I'm concerned, I'm happy that they can get the services," he said Friday. "Because I would like to have the services if I'm somewhere in another country … if I have an accident with a motorcycle and I go to an emergency room, I don't want someone to say, is he here legally?"

Schwarzenegger also highlighted the economic contributions of illegal immigrants.

"Everything we eat today is picked and created by undocumented immigrants, to a large extent," he said. "And every time we go to a restaurant and every time we go and move into a building, a lot of those buildings are built by undocumented immigrants' hands."

Schwarzenegger has two budget proposals that affect immigrants. He proposed asking the federal government to deport up to 8,000 illegal immigrants in state prisons to save $182 million. He also wants to save $120 million by eliminating benefits for newly legal low-income immigrants who do not yet qualify for federal assistance.

The governor has said he believes the United States should enforce tougher border controls, and he has advocated for immigration changes such as a guest worker program.

A Federation for American Immigration Reform study released in 2004 said illegal immigrants cost the state $9 billion annually, including $7.7 billion on education. But University of Southern California demographer Dowell Myers has disputed that number and said it is difficult to quantify the full economic impact of illegal immigrants.

Jim Gilchrist, president of the Minuteman Project, accused the governor of "pandering to political correctness." He acknowledged that costs of some goods and services could increase without illegal immigrants, but he said that would be outweighed by tax savings.

"The money for services comes from increased sales taxes, increased property taxes, increased DMV fees," he said.

Sen. Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, praised the governor for saying immigrants are not to blame.

"Our economy is very, very dependent on the immigrant work force," he said. "They're a very disciplined, very stable, very productive work force. Our economy would collapse without them."

Facing a $24.3 billion deficit after signing a $92 billion spending plan in February, the Republican governor accepted some blame for what has transpired since he was elected on the promise of fiscal rescue.

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PIN -- For the Racist inclined!!


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Yeah stick up for the illegals to the bitter end. 5a
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I'm not blaming it on them, but let's be honest...they are part of the cause. They take advantage of many of the resources available to them but don't pay anything back towards it in the way of taxes.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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he's trying to keep the peace...BUT!!..a whole of their problems come from the illegals...
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So that was about five hundered words.

"government can't sustain the current level of "unbelievable benefits" for public-sector workers."

13 words about one problem.
497 about another problem.
Talk about being afraid to address an issue....
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Is this man cazy?
Seriously ...
Poor California
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Hey Arnold...U made great movies but are a Shitty Kiss Ass Politician !!!

Stick that CIGAR UP YOUR ARSHOLE !!!

Keep supporting the HOMOS and ILLEGALS Dumbazz !

Cant wait till all of the SHILLS are voted out of office


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I'm not blaming it on them, but let's be honest...they are part of the cause. They take advantage of many of the resources available to them but don't pay anything back towards it in the way of taxes.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


yer an idiot.

let's be honest, it's AMERICAN citizens and business people who hire them. it's AMERICAN's who buy the tacos, bigmacs and picked veggies knowing full well that a huge percentage of the work force is illegal immigrants. And let's be honest, sure they 'cost' 4-5 billion in benefits, but what do they 'generate' by working.

It's your country you tard.
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He said the cost of services to illegal immigrants, which has been estimated at $4 billion to $5 billion annually, is a "small percentage" of the deficit California faces.


Math is not my strong point.
But I do know how to figure out some percentages from when I waitressed, lol.

So, if someone's meal was $24 billion, and they left me a 4 or 5 billion dollar tip, they would have left me in the area of about a 20% tip, give or take.

If they had left me 9 billion (according to F.A.I.R.)....whoohoo!
That's almost a 40% tip...it's over 35% anyway.

Either way, 20% or 40%, it's a good chunk of change, even when you're NOT talking BILLIONS.
So I wouldn't exactly call it a "small percentage" myself.
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Many people thought that when this economy decline began the illegals would go back to Mexico, or where ever they are from. But I always said hell no they won't. All they have to do is sign up for sec. 8 housing, food stamps, welfare, wica, and other get free shit for nothing programs. They ain't going anywhere, they are going to help take the system down.

Keep paying your taxes folks, they are going to get much higher soon!
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I'm not blaming it on them, but let's be honest...they are part of the cause. They take advantage of many of the resources available to them but don't pay anything back towards it in the way of taxes.
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your rite send them back to europe
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Schwarzy should have stuck to acting...even though he wasn't great at that...

He is a joke as Governor. His problem wouldn't be as huge if he didn't have the illegals in the equation.

So.. he's glad they can "get the services"????

What a p.o.s.

He's a fake repub, pussy-whipped by his ultra lib wife....what a sad character.

If he wants illegal aliens to get "services"...he should give it to them out of his OWN pocket.

Sorry I ever watched even one of his movies...what a wuss.
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the illegals will go back home when the jobs dry up....

they ain`t stupid....

the problem is this....

where will you go when martial law is implemented....

are you people going to blame the federal 27 trillion dollar deficit on illegals too....

the illegals are there cause the feds never enforced the borders....

you are looking for scapegoats like hitler with jews...

no my friends your mutton chops are going to the grill soon....

fema camps....

and it won`t be the illegals fault....

but of course you don`t want to see that...

cause it`s your own face you have to look in the mirror when you see that happening...

I hear a train comin up around the bend....

and it ain`t whistling dixie..
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i heard a report on the radio, it was the mnexican vote that got Obama elected...shhhhh
keep em happy for a second term
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At least he let people know where he stands so you can make a decision.

He isn't going to address the illegal problem in any way. His buddies in business are making way too much money on the cheap labor and dumping the costs of that labor onto the already broke tax payers. I don't think he gives a rat's ass about the state and if he bankrupts it as long as his buddies are living large.

Seems like he is going to target tax payers and government workers. If I lived in California and was in a position to get out then I would get out now while the getting is still good before they take everything from you to give to the illegals.

Of course people should have already known where their priorities were when they stood by and watched over 80 hospitals in California go bankrupt because of the illegals.

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i heard a report on the radio, it was the mnexican vote that got Obama elected...shhhhh
keep em happy for a second term
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remember obooboo has stopped any laws from enforcing illegals from voting...so all he has to do is naturalize them and he has a garrentted voting block bigger than all the blacks...hint, hint....he screwed the blacks...aswell as everyone else..
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remember obooboo has stopped any laws from enforcing illegals from voting...so all he has to do is naturalize them and he has a garrentted voting block bigger than all the blacks...hint, hint....he screwed the blacks...aswell as everyone else..
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The blacks are in the worse position of anyone right now. They prevented the blacks from getting educated. The government hooked them on Welfare and offered them nothing more than to sell their illegals drugs on the streets. Now they have brought in the illegals to take over the street level dealing and soon their welfare will be cut off.

The blacks cannot team up with the illegals because the illegals want them out of the picture. The blacks themselves have been educated to blame all their problems on the white goyim instead of their true tormentors the white zionists. Having been so throughly brainwashed they could never team up with their only hope of survival the white goyim. So they will have to try and make it on their own. Zero chance of that happening. The white goyim's only chance is to team up with the blacks but you see that isn't going to happen so they by sheer numbers will last longer than the blacks but ultimately suffer the same fate.


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At least he let people know where he stands so you can make a decision.

He isn't going to address the illegal problem in any way. His buddies in business are making way too much money on the cheap labor and dumping the costs of that labor onto the already broke tax payers. I don't think he gives a rat's ass about the state and if he bankrupts it as long as his buddies are living large.

Seems like he is going to target tax payers and government workers. If I lived in California and was in a position to get out then I would get out now while the getting is still good before they take everything from you to give to the illegals.

Of course people should have already known where their priorities were when they stood by and watched over 80 hospitals in California go bankrupt because of the illegals.
 Quoting: Rota


I moved 6 yrs ago out of the nyc metropolis...due to illegals.

There was a huge influx of them in many towns...plus the house across the street from me. There were 50 of them in one house..coming and going all hours of the night...noise, burglaries, etc.

I blame the assholes like Arnie who will never live next to them in any capacity...but he's so glad they can "get the services".

LOL...what a p.o.s. bad actor, bad governor.

Total slimeball who sells out his fellow citizens...
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HIS RICH FRIENDS NEED THEIR CHEAP SLAVE LABOR. END OF STORY.
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ONLY 4-5 billion? How much does mexico spend on American in one state?
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Ahhnuld: Don't blaim alegulls... (Nudge Nudge WINK WINK)

(THIS HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH ENRON)(Nudge Nudge WINK WINK)
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the illegals will go back home when the jobs dry up....

they ain`t stupid....

the problem is this....

where will you go when martial law is implemented....

are you people going to blame the federal 27 trillion dollar deficit on illegals too....

the illegals are there cause the feds never enforced the borders....

you are looking for scapegoats like hitler with jews...

no my friends your mutton chops are going to the grill soon....

fema camps....

and it won`t be the illegals fault....

but of course you don`t want to see that...

cause it`s your own face you have to look in the mirror when you see that happening...

I hear a train comin up around the bend....

and it ain`t whistling dixie..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 697318

Idiot, the jobs have dried up, and the illegals are still here! Hummmmm
And I'll be goddamned, I am not in a FEMA camp. Hummmmmmmm And I ain't mutton chops. Hummmmmm
Things that make you go Hummmmmmmm!
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Well he himself is an immigrant.
So of course he would say that.
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Well he himself is an immigrant.
So of course he would say that.
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Wrong. He is a legal immigrant. Big diff between legal and illegal.

Lots of legal immigrants do not care for illegals...who cut in line ahead of them.

Arnie is for them because it's the globalist agenda...which he is part of.

Fuck him.
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the white people should have a riot burn down everything and then leave. all the ones with jobs and skills that is, the rest of you can rot
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All whites should leave and go back where they came from
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All whites should leave and go back where they came from
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What about the people that were here before you people.
Why don't you go back where you came from.
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All whites should leave and go back where they came from
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Get the countries to offer us citizenship and I think you'll have a lot of takers. I'll go to ireland or New Zealand. get back to use when you have completed your task.

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All whites should leave and go back where they came from
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They should be paid just for having to deal with the fundys...