The Rapture of the Church will not happen this year ! I can prove it !

Just for you info

2 points years ago starting me walking against what my church and pastor teach!

1. Rev 20: 4I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.


this is the first resurrection - since the 1st general is only talked about here where else did the First Resurrection take place. We know from Thes that the dead in Christ raise first.


2. The Abomination of Desolation

how can the Anti-Christ standing in a unholy temple built by men and not filled with the Spirit of God be the AOD!!!!




these are the 2 points that drove me !

9 There was nothing in the ark except the two stone tablets that Moses had placed in it at Horeb, where the LORD made a covenant with the Israelites after they came out of Egypt.

10 When the priests withdrew from the Holy Place, the cloud filled the temple of the LORD. 11 And the priests could not perform their service because of the cloud, for the glory of the LORD filled his temple.

The Lord filled his Temple with His spirit!

Acts 2
The Holy Spirit Comes at Pentecost
1When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. 2Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting.

The Lord filled His new Temple with His spirit!

ice

ICE, the first resurrection applies to those that are sealed and have the foreknowledge of knowing who what and when Satan comes.
Those that are dead are not talking about dead earthly bodies, they are spiritually dead. And yes, when the Zadok teach in the mil. there will be many that become alive in the spiritual body. I know how this is commonly taught by churches, and the first fruit are those that make a stand against Satan. (from day one to even now, not just the latter day folks)
After all ICE, who is Lazareth and where was he standing when the rich man spoke to him? You got it, in heaven!
The rich man was standing on the other side of the gulf that is in heaven. (The gulf is a void area, and those across the gulf can see those in paradise). I shared this with you to help you understand first fruits and to understand the scripture that you gave.
People who die are not laying in some earthly hole in the ground. Again, I gave Ecc. chapter 12 that defines where you spiritual body goes.
Eccl. 12: 7" Then shall the dust(flesh body) return to the earth as it was: and the "SPIRIT" shall return unto God who gave it."
Now did it say "only Christians or goodie two shoes go to heaven?
No all who die go to heaven, the question is, what side of the gulf will we each end up on?
Those dead spoken of in your scripture are just spiritually dead which means they did not get it. They are still in heaven and will be taught again in the mil.


Hey crazy. It is okay by me what you believe. It does not matter to me.
Here is why.
What I share is something that is what I have found to be true. What you share is something that you have found to be true.
It does not mean a hill a beans to me at all. I am not your judge, nor would I judge you. But, what I have shared, you will see come to pass.
Here is a tid bit for you personally.
When you shall see the abomination of desolation and his 7000 bad boys with him marching towards Jerusalem, you will know that what I have uncovered is true.
Kind of boasting hey?
NOPE!
How do I know it to be true? Well it is written in the bible, and I am a bible believer, so therefore I believe it to be truth.
I know many come here on glp to debate when Sitchen says and what this books says and that book, but you know, I have read all those books too.
The only hope I have is Christ. That is where my heart is, nothing more and nothing left.
If you want to believe in the rapture, have at it, have fun at it, and let us hope that you find peace.
If I was to be taken to the "long home" today, I would be okay with that. I have found my peace in the Lord.
Hope you have too....

The Abomination of Desolation is a statue of the anti-christ that is made to come alive by the false prophet. It will "speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. (Rev. 13: 14-15 Matthew 24: 15-17 Daniel 11:31 12:11)

Hi Ice,

YOU ARE RIGHT ON!!!!!

THANK YOU for explaining the Scriptures. I’m 67, been saved since age 26. I’m an ardent Bible student, researcher and two time published author. Years ago I USED TO believe in the pre-tribulation rapture. Then God allowed a broken leg during which time I had two months to study further.

The Lord has shown me, without a doubt, the church will experience the TRIBULATION. However, the church is removed before the wrath of God is poured out on a Christ rejecting world.

For those who say Jesus would not allow HIS CHURCH TO SUFFER, I’d like them to OPEN THEIR BIBLE and turn to Revelation 2:18-25.

Jesus Himself is speaking. He says clearly that He will cast into a bed of TRIBUATION and even kill the children from the rebellious church of Thyatira. Therefore, God is not against chastisment is He?

Yes, Jesus is a God of Mercy . . . but He is also a God of Justice.

Did you see where President Barack Obama just signed a proclamation blessing the homosexuals and all manner of sexual perversion? Do you realize there are thousands of Christians caught up in believing that is OK, as well as abortion and all kinds of other sins?

There IS rapture, but there is also a tribulation period, and the church will be around for BOTH!!!!

just for you LS

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ice

I wanted to add, when I crossed over I saw high tech stuff that I cannot even to begin to explain. But I can fully understand the craft that Satan will using....
Note on that: We might not see the craft, but he will come in one... YOu can count on it.

LS you are saying Satan is going to be flying in a UFO!

right


ice

Doesn't anyone believe that the AOD is the pope of the Catholic church with all the faulse doctrines?

Hi Ice,

YOU ARE RIGHT ON!!!!!

THANK YOU for explaining the Scriptures. I’m 67, been saved since age 26. I’m an ardent Bible student, researcher and two time published author. Years ago I USED TO believe in the pre-tribulation rapture. Then God allowed a broken leg during which time I had two months to study further.

The Lord has shown me, without a doubt, the church will experience the TRIBULATION. However, the church is removed before the wrath of God is poured out on a Christ rejecting world.

For those who say Jesus would not allow HIS CHURCH TO SUFFER, I’d like them to OPEN THEIR BIBLE and turn to Revelation 2:18-25.

Jesus Himself is speaking. He says clearly that He will cast into a bed of TRIBUATION and even kill the children from the rebellious church of Thyatira. Therefore, God is not against chastisment is He?

Yes, Jesus is a God of Mercy . . . but He is also a God of Justice.

Did you see where President Barack Obama just signed a proclamation blessing the homosexuals and all manner of sexual perversion? Do you realize there are thousands of Christians caught up in believing that is OK, as well as abortion and all kinds of other sins?

There IS rapture, but there is also a tribulation period, and the church will be around for BOTH!!!!

God will not pour out His final wrath (Trumpet and Bowl Judgements) out upon His own children. The rapture will occur just before the 7th Seal. 12,000 from each tribe of Israel will also be sealed so as not to be harmed. Rev. Chap 7

Doesn't anyone believe that the AOD is the pope of the Catholic church with all the faulse doctrines?

I posted that I feel that the AOD is a statue of the anti-christ that is made to come alive and included my verses in another post. However, the pope could turn out to be the false prophet. I also heard that when he was younger he was a Nazi. I also have some support from Scripture that the anti-christ will be none other than Adolph Hitler who is released for a short time from the bottomless pit.

Some have said you prophesied. Can you tell me what prophecy you have projected to the glp gang?

If you choose not to do so, that is okay...
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I have forwarded many that have stated dates!

I have been posting since 05 and I have posted about 10 threads with other people who came to me or I found with time lines. I had one guy hang me out with a update that he never posted. I always said I would watch and wait!

I did post one! Oct of 07 I think. I had a vision of a nuke in the L.A. basin when I was there. I had what I thought was a time line based on a women that I dropped a bowl of flowers. The marble stones all turned down. Long story. She was going to have a baby in Oct and I hooked it to the nuke in L.A. I did post it and that one was on me.


I still know I saw the nuke in L.A. but I do not have timing for it.


ice

The Abomination of Desolation is a statue of the anti-christ that is made to come alive by the false prophet. It will "speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. (Rev. 13: 14-15 Matthew 24: 15-17 Daniel 11:31 12:11)


)))))))))))))

I have heard that

nope don't think so

Some have said you prophesied. Can you tell me what prophecy you have projected to the glp gang?

If you choose not to do so, that is okay...
[/quote








I have forwarded many that have stated dates!

I have been posting since 05 and I have posted about 10 threads with other people who came to me or I found with time lines. I had one guy hang me out with a update that he never posted. I always said I would watch and wait!

I did post one! Oct of 07 I think. I had a vision of a nuke in the L.A. basin when I was there. I had what I thought was a time line based on a women that I dropped a bowl of flowers. The marble stones all turned down. Long story. She was going to have a baby in Oct and I hooked it to the nuke in L.A. I did post it and that one was on me.


I still know I saw the nuke in L.A. but I do not have timing for it.


ice



LOL JUST ONE. hmmmmmm these are just the ones I bothered to look at from a couple of months in 2008 there are plenty more of your false prophecy's. Like I said you would make NANCY proud the way you just shake off the bullshit you put out and keep going like nothing ever happened.


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The Abomination of Desolation is a statue of the anti-christ that is made to come alive by the false prophet. It will "speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. (Rev. 13: 14-15 Matthew 24: 15-17 Daniel 11:31 12:11)


)))))))))))))

I have heard that

nope don't think so

That is fine. Peace be with you brother. My wife had breast cancer at the age of 40. God supplied an extra amount of grace and comfort during this period. She did not really need pain medicine but just an occasional glass of wine that we prayed over. She stayed at home for six months and I took care of her. God spared her the final stages of cancer and took her in an instant. Something came up and blocked her airway. She died in my arms. She is in paradise now. God put on my heart afterword that this is similar to what he did with His Son on the cross. He took Him up after six hours. He was not left to hang there and suffer for several days as was typical for others. When the time was completed, it was finished.

Just for you info

2 points years ago starting me walking against what my church and pastor teach!

1. Rev 20: 4I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.


this is the first resurrection - since the 1st general is only talked about here where else did the First Resurrection take place. We know from Thes that the dead in Christ raise first.


2. The Abomination of Desolation

how can the Anti-Christ standing in a unholy temple built by men and not filled with the Spirit of God be the AOD!!!!




these are the 2 points that drove me !

9 There was nothing in the ark except the two stone tablets that Moses had placed in it at Horeb, where the LORD made a covenant with the Israelites after they came out of Egypt.

10 When the priests withdrew from the Holy Place, the cloud filled the temple of the LORD. 11 And the priests could not perform their service because of the cloud, for the glory of the LORD filled his temple.

The Lord filled his Temple with His spirit!

Acts 2
The Holy Spirit Comes at Pentecost
1When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. 2Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting.

The Lord filled His new Temple with His spirit!

ice

ICE, the first resurrection applies to those that are sealed and have the foreknowledge of knowing who what and when Satan comes.
Those that are dead are not talking about dead earthly bodies, they are spiritually dead. And yes, when the Zadok teach in the mil. there will be many that become alive in the spiritual body. I know how this is commonly taught by churches, and the first fruit are those that make a stand against Satan. (from day one to even now, not just the latter day folks)
After all ICE, who is Lazareth and where was he standing when the rich man spoke to him? You got it, in heaven!
The rich man was standing on the other side of the gulf that is in heaven. (The gulf is a void area, and those across the gulf can see those in paradise). I shared this with you to help you understand first fruits and to understand the scripture that you gave.
People who die are not laying in some earthly hole in the ground. Again, I gave Ecc. chapter 12 that defines where you spiritual body goes.
Eccl. 12: 7" Then shall the dust(flesh body) return to the earth as it was: and the "SPIRIT" shall return unto God who gave it."
Now did it say "only Christians or goodie two shoes go to heaven?
No all who die go to heaven, the question is, what side of the gulf will we each end up on?
Those dead spoken of in your scripture are just spiritually dead which means they did not get it. They are still in heaven and will be taught again in the mil.


Hey crazy. It is okay by me what you believe. It does not matter to me.
Here is why.
What I share is something that is what I have found to be true. What you share is something that you have found to be true.
It does not mean a hill a beans to me at all. I am not your judge, nor would I judge you. But, what I have shared, you will see come to pass.
Here is a tid bit for you personally.
When you shall see the abomination of desolation and his 7000 bad boys with him marching towards Jerusalem, you will know that what I have uncovered is true.
Kind of boasting hey?
NOPE!
How do I know it to be true? Well it is written in the bible, and I am a bible believer, so therefore I believe it to be truth.
I know many come here on glp to debate when Sitchen says and what this books says and that book, but you know, I have read all those books too.
The only hope I have is Christ. That is where my heart is, nothing more and nothing left.
If you want to believe in the rapture, have at it, have fun at it, and let us hope that you find peace.
If I was to be taken to the "long home" today, I would be okay with that. I have found my peace in the Lord.
Hope you have too....

The Abomination of Desolation is a statue of the anti-christ that is made to come alive by the false prophet. It will "speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. (Rev. 13: 14-15 Matthew 24: 15-17 Daniel 11:31 12:11)

Okay, if you say that it will be a statue that comes alive, then it is okay with me...
You have no knowledge of what a beast is?
So with that being said,,, here are some beast for you..
Political beast system
Educational beast system
Economical beast system
and the worst of them all
Religious beast system.
If we have a statue that is the abomination of desolation, then I have nothing at all to worry about.
Yes, I know about how Chuckie spoke at one place and we all saw it on tv.
But I have done my homework and I know who is the only one that has been judged, and it is not some statue.. lol

come on LS

don't turn you little star into a big star!!!

there is some gray out there and yes I do believe nukes will fly!!!

You said I don't know the power of God! The most important thing I do know is the power of God touching a lost soul like me and saving me with the power of the Blood of Christ.


I would be careful with absolute teaching based on personal insight. I think I can join with many on my understanding of the timing of the rapture but it is not a point of fellowship with me.

The rapture will happen right on time and the dead will raise up out of the grave like the Bible talks about.

No way we go into WWIII without nukes flying. You say you saw the gulf. That's nice! I had a real vision of a nuke going off over L.A. . It was as real as real can be. I can't make you see it or believe for sure!

Nice talking with you but if you added a little tack to your absolute teaching it would help a little.

from your thin skinned believer in the only Truth Jesus Christ!

ice

Hi Ice,

YOU ARE RIGHT ON!!!!!

THANK YOU for explaining the Scriptures. I’m 67, been saved since age 26. I’m an ardent Bible student, researcher and two time published author. Years ago I USED TO believe in the pre-tribulation rapture. Then God allowed a broken leg during which time I had two months to study further.

The Lord has shown me, without a doubt, the church will experience the TRIBULATION. However, the church is removed before the wrath of God is poured out on a Christ rejecting world.

For those who say Jesus would not allow HIS CHURCH TO SUFFER, I’d like them to OPEN THEIR BIBLE and turn to Revelation 2:18-25.

Jesus Himself is speaking. He says clearly that He will cast into a bed of TRIBUATION and even kill the children from the rebellious church of Thyatira. Therefore, God is not against chastisment is He?

Yes, Jesus is a God of Mercy . . . but He is also a God of Justice.

Did you see where President Barack Obama just signed a proclamation blessing the homosexuals and all manner of sexual perversion? Do you realize there are thousands of Christians caught up in believing that is OK, as well as abortion and all kinds of other sins?

There IS rapture, but there is also a tribulation period, and the church will be around for BOTH!!!!

God will not pour out His final wrath (Trumpet and Bowl Judgements) out upon His own children. The rapture will occur just before the 7th Seal. 12,000 from each tribe of Israel will also be sealed so as not to be harmed. Rev. Chap 7

You are very correct. We could be standing in the middle of Gods wrath, and not one hair of our head would be harmed.

Just for you info

2 points years ago starting me walking against what my church and pastor teach!

1. Rev 20: 4I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.


this is the first resurrection - since the 1st general is only talked about here where else did the First Resurrection take place. We know from Thes that the dead in Christ raise first.


2. The Abomination of Desolation

how can the Anti-Christ standing in a unholy temple built by men and not filled with the Spirit of God be the AOD!!!!




these are the 2 points that drove me !

9 There was nothing in the ark except the two stone tablets that Moses had placed in it at Horeb, where the LORD made a covenant with the Israelites after they came out of Egypt.

10 When the priests withdrew from the Holy Place, the cloud filled the temple of the LORD. 11 And the priests could not perform their service because of the cloud, for the glory of the LORD filled his temple.

The Lord filled his Temple with His spirit!

Acts 2
The Holy Spirit Comes at Pentecost
1When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. 2Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting.

The Lord filled His new Temple with His spirit!

ice

ICE, the first resurrection applies to those that are sealed and have the foreknowledge of knowing who what and when Satan comes.
Those that are dead are not talking about dead earthly bodies, they are spiritually dead. And yes, when the Zadok teach in the mil. there will be many that become alive in the spiritual body. I know how this is commonly taught by churches, and the first fruit are those that make a stand against Satan. (from day one to even now, not just the latter day folks)
After all ICE, who is Lazareth and where was he standing when the rich man spoke to him? You got it, in heaven!
The rich man was standing on the other side of the gulf that is in heaven. (The gulf is a void area, and those across the gulf can see those in paradise). I shared this with you to help you understand first fruits and to understand the scripture that you gave.
People who die are not laying in some earthly hole in the ground. Again, I gave Ecc. chapter 12 that defines where you spiritual body goes.
Eccl. 12: 7" Then shall the dust(flesh body) return to the earth as it was: and the "SPIRIT" shall return unto God who gave it."
Now did it say "only Christians or goodie two shoes go to heaven?
No all who die go to heaven, the question is, what side of the gulf will we each end up on?
Those dead spoken of in your scripture are just spiritually dead which means they did not get it. They are still in heaven and will be taught again in the mil.


Hey crazy. It is okay by me what you believe. It does not matter to me.
Here is why.
What I share is something that is what I have found to be true. What you share is something that you have found to be true.
It does not mean a hill a beans to me at all. I am not your judge, nor would I judge you. But, what I have shared, you will see come to pass.
Here is a tid bit for you personally.
When you shall see the abomination of desolation and his 7000 bad boys with him marching towards Jerusalem, you will know that what I have uncovered is true.
Kind of boasting hey?
NOPE!
How do I know it to be true? Well it is written in the bible, and I am a bible believer, so therefore I believe it to be truth.
I know many come here on glp to debate when Sitchen says and what this books says and that book, but you know, I have read all those books too.
The only hope I have is Christ. That is where my heart is, nothing more and nothing left.
If you want to believe in the rapture, have at it, have fun at it, and let us hope that you find peace.
If I was to be taken to the "long home" today, I would be okay with that. I have found my peace in the Lord.
Hope you have too....

The Abomination of Desolation is a statue of the anti-christ that is made to come alive by the false prophet. It will "speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. (Rev. 13: 14-15 Matthew 24: 15-17 Daniel 11:31 12:11)

Okay, if you say that it will be a statue that comes alive, then it is okay with me...
You have no knowledge of what a beast is?
So with that being said,,, here are some beast for you..
Political beast system
Educational beast system
Economical beast system
and the worst of them all
Religious beast system.
If we have a statue that is the abomination of desolation, then I have nothing at all to worry about.
Yes, I know about how Chuckie spoke at one place and we all saw it on tv.
But I have done my homework and I know who is the only one that has been judged, and it is not some statue.. lol

Thanks for you opinion. I am simple going by what those three verses say. Sometimes it is helpful to write verses down on a single sheet of paper and examine them closely together.....rather than flipping back and forth thru the Bible. But the main thing is to ask God for His help. (James 1:5 Luke 24: 45 )

Wow, I did not know this was being said by ICE.

ICE, I want to say something to you on a personal level.
Sir, I respect you as a Christian, but I want to point out that I have heard thousand upon thousands of prophecies by Christians. 99.99% are false.
That .01 % that have spoken truth have 100% went right along with the bible.
Those who play prophet will loose their soul.
You have too much to loose ICE, and they are called family.
When judgment day comes, and you don't make it, all your family will have the memory of you wiped from their mind, just like God has removed the first earth age and heaven from our minds today in the flesh. We were with God in the beginning and if God wants to use you as a prophet, it will not happen until God makes it happen.
Step away from being a prophet, because you will loose!
I personally like you and what you post, but I do not always read everything that you post. You are a good person and I would hate to see you give up your soul to impress others in your flesh body... Sorry!





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funny

impress others Like the folk on GLP


I am not a prophet chill out!!!

I did have a vision that I can't repent of. I have concern for loved ones I left in the L.A. area.

I have no concerns about what I have posted and even my concern for Oct of 08!

I posted from my heart and never said thus sayest the Lord!

now did I!!!


ice

The Abomination of Desolation is a statue of the anti-christ that is made to come alive by the false prophet. It will "speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. (Rev. 13: 14-15 Matthew 24: 15-17 Daniel 11:31 12:11)


)))))))))))))

I have heard that

nope don't think so

That is fine. Peace be with you brother. My wife had breast cancer at the age of 40. God supplied an extra amount of grace and comfort during this period. She did not really need pain medicine but just an occasional glass of wine that we prayed over. She stayed at home for six months and I took care of her. God spared her the final stages of cancer and took her in an instant. Something came up and blocked her airway. She died in my arms. She is in paradise now. God put on my heart afterword that this is similar to what he did with His Son on the cross. He took Him up after six hours. He was not left to hang there and suffer for several days as was typical for others. When the time was completed, it was finished.



awesome story

love is a wonderful thing and your love for her is not close to His love for us!! you will be with her again!!

God Bless


ice

Hi Ice,

YOU ARE RIGHT ON!!!!!

THANK YOU for explaining the Scriptures. I’m 67, been saved since age 26. I’m an ardent Bible student, researcher and two time published author. Years ago I USED TO believe in the pre-tribulation rapture. Then God allowed a broken leg during which time I had two months to study further.

The Lord has shown me, without a doubt, the church will experience the TRIBULATION. However, the church is removed before the wrath of God is poured out on a Christ rejecting world.

For those who say Jesus would not allow HIS CHURCH TO SUFFER, I’d like them to OPEN THEIR BIBLE and turn to Revelation 2:18-25.

Jesus Himself is speaking. He says clearly that He will cast into a bed of TRIBUATION and even kill the children from the rebellious church of Thyatira. Therefore, God is not against chastisment is He?

Yes, Jesus is a God of Mercy . . . but He is also a God of Justice.

Did you see where President Barack Obama just signed a proclamation blessing the homosexuals and all manner of sexual perversion? Do you realize there are thousands of Christians caught up in believing that is OK, as well as abortion and all kinds of other sins?

There IS rapture, but there is also a tribulation period, and the church will be around for BOTH!!!!

God will not pour out His final wrath (Trumpet and Bowl Judgements) out upon His own children. The rapture will occur just before the 7th Seal. 12,000 from each tribe of Israel will also be sealed so as not to be harmed. Rev. Chap 7

You are very correct. We could be standing in the middle of Gods wrath, and not one hair of our head would be harmed.

That will be the case for the 144.000 sealed from the tribes of Israel. But the verse just after this appears to describe those who have been raptured up and standing before the throne and before the Lamb (Rev. 7: 9)

Hi Ice,

YOU ARE RIGHT ON!!!!!

THANK YOU for explaining the Scriptures. I’m 67, been saved since age 26. I’m an ardent Bible student, researcher and two time published author. Years ago I USED TO believe in the pre-tribulation rapture. Then God allowed a broken leg during which time I had two months to study further.

The Lord has shown me, without a doubt, the church will experience the TRIBULATION. However, the church is removed before the wrath of God is poured out on a Christ rejecting world.

For those who say Jesus would not allow HIS CHURCH TO SUFFER, I’d like them to OPEN THEIR BIBLE and turn to Revelation 2:18-25.

Jesus Himself is speaking. He says clearly that He will cast into a bed of TRIBUATION and even kill the children from the rebellious church of Thyatira. Therefore, God is not against chastisment is He?

Yes, Jesus is a God of Mercy . . . but He is also a God of Justice.

Did you see where President Barack Obama just signed a proclamation blessing the homosexuals and all manner of sexual perversion? Do you realize there are thousands of Christians caught up in believing that is OK, as well as abortion and all kinds of other sins?

There IS rapture, but there is also a tribulation period, and the church will be around for BOTH!!!!

God will not pour out His final wrath (Trumpet and Bowl Judgements) out upon His own children. The rapture will occur just before the 7th Seal. 12,000 from each tribe of Israel will also be sealed so as not to be harmed. Rev. Chap 7

You are very correct. We could be standing in the middle of Gods wrath, and not one hair of our head would be harmed.

That will be the case for the 144.000 sealed from the tribes of Israel. But the verse just after this appears to describe those who have been raptured up and standing before the throne and before the Lamb (Rev. 7: 9)

Yes there will be a untold numbers that will have white robes.
My understanding of the gathering back to Christ is 1/2 day before He puts His foot down on Mt. Olives.
It does not matter to me anyway. If I love the Lord and try my best on everything righteous, I should not have to worry about when I get to be with the Lord. After all, I feel His love today in my life.
I try to love as many that will let me. But as you can see words on a thread like glp sometimes are mis-understood.
I feel love in your heart, big time!

Hi Ice,

YOU ARE RIGHT ON!!!!!

THANK YOU for explaining the Scriptures. I’m 67, been saved since age 26. I’m an ardent Bible student, researcher and two time published author. Years ago I USED TO believe in the pre-tribulation rapture. Then God allowed a broken leg during which time I had two months to study further.

The Lord has shown me, without a doubt, the church will experience the TRIBULATION. However, the church is removed before the wrath of God is poured out on a Christ rejecting world.

For those who say Jesus would not allow HIS CHURCH TO SUFFER, I’d like them to OPEN THEIR BIBLE and turn to Revelation 2:18-25.

Jesus Himself is speaking. He says clearly that He will cast into a bed of TRIBUATION and even kill the children from the rebellious church of Thyatira. Therefore, God is not against chastisment is He?

Yes, Jesus is a God of Mercy . . . but He is also a God of Justice.

Did you see where President Barack Obama just signed a proclamation blessing the homosexuals and all manner of sexual perversion? Do you realize there are thousands of Christians caught up in believing that is OK, as well as abortion and all kinds of other sins?

There IS rapture, but there is also a tribulation period, and the church will be around for BOTH!!!!

God will not pour out His final wrath (Trumpet and Bowl Judgements) out upon His own children. The rapture will occur just before the 7th Seal. 12,000 from each tribe of Israel will also be sealed so as not to be harmed. Rev. Chap 7

You are very correct. We could be standing in the middle of Gods wrath, and not one hair of our head would be harmed.

That will be the case for the 144.000 sealed from the tribes of Israel. But the verse just after this appears to describe those who have been raptured up and standing before the throne and before the Lamb (Rev. 7: 9)

Yes there will be a untold numbers that will have white robes.
My understanding of the gathering back to Christ is 1/2 day before He puts His foot down on Mt. Olives.
It does not matter to me anyway. If I love the Lord and try my best on everything righteous, I should not have to worry about when I get to be with the Lord. After all, I feel His love today in my life.
I try to love as many that will let me. But as you can see words on a thread like glp sometimes are mis-understood.
I feel love in your heart, big time!

As I do not know if you are a man or a woman, I will say: Amen brother (or sister) May God be very close to you and strengthen you in the days ahead.