30 yr T-Bond sale yesterday a bust?

Only 46% of the bonds sold, 13 1/2 billion out of 30 B. Does anyone think the sale today will bomb?

Only 46% of the bonds sold, 13 1/2 billion out of 30 B. Does anyone think the sale today will bomb?


Do you have any links to articles about this? The issue at hand is that the amount of new debt the FED needs to issue may exceed the world's available capital to finance it.

Only 46% of the bonds sold, 13 1/2 billion out of 30 B. Does anyone think the sale today will bomb?


Do you have any links to articles about this? The issue at hand is that the amount of new debt the FED needs to issue may exceed the world's available capital to finance it.


No, haven't looked for any articles,,,this is what my trader told me. Makes me think the 30 yrs will really sink today but I don't know! Agree about the new debt needed and feel a good play would be Sept puts

wow! I decided to take a chance on some futures...so far, very good but probably just beginner's luck, knock on wood! Anybody else doing this?

No it wasn't a bust yesterday, that percentage of sale is actually not bad, Today (after 1 PM) will be a good test with $19 bill in 10 yr bonds going up for sale, Russia is reporting it will be dumping US bonds for IMF bonds which will cause yields to jump up, (IMAO).
Is 4% here? Big news if it is.

No it wasn't a bust yesterday, that percentage of sale is actually not bad, Today (after 1 PM) will be a good test with $19 bill in 10 yr bonds going up for sale, Russia is reporting it will be dumping US bonds for IMF bonds which will cause yields to jump up, (IMAO).
Is 4% here? Big news if it is.

So I wonder if I should jump back in??


so, will we hear about this auction after 1 pm today? or later?

Only 46% of the bonds sold, 13 1/2 billion out of 30 B. Does anyone think the sale today will bomb?

Only 46% of the bonds sold, 13 1/2 billion out of 30 B. Does anyone think the sale today will bomb?

What are you talking about? There was not 30 year bond sale yesterday. You need to get a new 'trader' soon.

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I made 8 points then got out after lowering my stop once. I'm definately a 'little guy' and you're right about playing against the pros but today was actually my 5th time. So my modis operandi is: I started with under $400 and 1 short position and held back 1/2 my profits each time I went short. I've been placing my stop loss carefully and plan to never lose more than I put in. I don't need to make a million ( although I wouldn't mind!)...just a small enough to cover certain expenses.

the way things are going...i`m surprised they sold any at all....

the way things are going...i`m surprised they sold any at all....



Sloppy? Yes, you look at the Tail, and it was long. 2.65times more bidders than the sale. Not a fail, I doubt yu will get any less than 200% more buyers. Tomorrow should be huge, 300% more buyers than seller, me thinks.

See, the government does not create money out of thin air,(as P.Shifter might have you believe), they have to sell Bonds, they create debt. Just like any one that want something and uses their credit card. You borrow it using future income streams.

the way things are going...i`m surprised they sold any at all....



Sloppy? Yes, you look at the Tail, and it was long. 2.65times more bidders than the sale. Not a fail, I doubt yu will get any less than 200% more buyers. Tomorrow should be huge, 300% more buyers than seller, me thinks.

See, the government does not create money out of thin air,(as P.Shifter might have you believe), they have to sell Bonds, they create debt. Just like any one that want something and uses their credit card. You borrow it using future income streams.


The government does create money out of thin air when they monetize the debt like they are doing right now.

They issue bonds out of one window and buy those bonds from the other window.

So one of the most important auction statistics is how much of the debt the FED itself bought either directly or through proxies or intermediaries.

the way things are going...i`m surprised they sold any at all....



Sloppy? Yes, you look at the Tail, and it was long. 2.65times more bidders than the sale. Not a fail, I doubt yu will get any less than 200% more buyers. Tomorrow should be huge, 300% more buyers than seller, me thinks.

See, the government does not create money out of thin air,(as P.Shifter might have you believe), they have to sell Bonds, they create debt. Just like any one that want something and uses their credit card. You borrow it using future income streams.


The government does create money out of thin air when they monetize the debt like they are doing right now.

They issue bonds out of one window and buy those bonds from the other window.

So one of the most important auction statistics is how much of the debt the FED itself bought either directly or through proxies or intermediaries.


You are confusing the Treasury and the Fed. Lets see how much was purchased by Foreign banks. Or as you think, Fed proxies?

the way things are going...i`m surprised they sold any at all....



Sloppy? Yes, you look at the Tail, and it was long. 2.65times more bidders than the sale. Not a fail, I doubt yu will get any less than 200% more buyers. Tomorrow should be huge, 300% more buyers than seller, me thinks.

See, the government does not create money out of thin air,(as P.Shifter might have you believe), they have to sell Bonds, they create debt. Just like any one that want something and uses their credit card. You borrow it using future income streams.


The government does create money out of thin air when they monetize the debt like they are doing right now.

They issue bonds out of one window and buy those bonds from the other window.

So one of the most important auction statistics is how much of the debt the FED itself bought either directly or through proxies or intermediaries.


You are confusing the Treasury and the Fed. Lets see how much was purchased by Foreign banks. Or as you think, Fed proxies?



I am not confusing the two. The FED is monetizing the debt under the moniker of "quantitative easing" which is a euphemism of printing money. Put simply, they are buying their own debt.

The sophisticated traders are watching for the proportion and degree of quantitative easing versus interest rates because effectively they are buying as much of their own debt as necessary to keep interest rates down and it isn't working.

This is an outrage. How dare the Chinese not buy these bonds?!! They should be on their hands and knees begging fo feed the endless African-Americanism that made downtown DC, Detroit and Harlem great! Thankless damn chinks.

(Interesting that the last word shows up verbatim, although the "n" word will not, on GLP). You white folks better figure out that the locals here in Shanghai aren't too impressed with your highly selective PC bullshit, and I am happy to point it out to them. I look forward to kicking all all the many, many, many hypocritical and parasitical asses in the future.