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Right...and yet no one can see this "planet?"





Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 07/25/2012 08:01 PM

Seriously - when HASN'T the world been fucked up? And how do all those events you listed prove the existence of some "rogue planet?" You're drawing a conclusion based on circumstantial evidence at best because all these events could have other causes.

As for ZetaMax - the definition for "soon" in his world is a measurement of time equal to now and never. He's been saying "soon" for years and hasn't been right yet. And neither has his master Nancy.

You mean when did Nancy Lieder spin a bunch of obvious lies about a rogue planet entering the Solar System with absolutely no astronomical evidence to support it.

Nancy (Zetas) Wrong Again!

Her claim:

"In fact, the Sun should not even be visible, per Skymap, as it is Winter at the S Pole and they are within their 3 months of darkness there. "

Wrong - there is no three months of darkness at Mawson Station (67° 36'S/62° 52'E). The only time during this year the Sun does not come above the horizon is June 13 to 28.

As for the Sun here are the calculated rise/set times (all times are local (UTC+5)):

July 21 - 1053 1458
July 22 - 1049 1502
July 23 - 1044 1506
July 24 - 1040 1511
July 25 - 1036 1515
July 26 - 1032 1519
July 27 - 1028 1523

Learn how to use Skymap!

Here's a screen shot from Cartes du Ciel for Mawson Station on July 22, 2012

[link to www.zetasquawk.com]

Notice the Sun?

Last Edited by bob_909 on 07/25/2012 09:10 PM

I love it when the claim is made that earthquakes have increased since 2003. Have they really? Here's a breakdown of the number of earthquakes magnitude 7 or greater worldwide since 1900 - years with more than 20 magnitude 7 or greater earthquakes are in red.

1900 13
1901 14
1902 8
1903 10
1904 16
1905 26
1906 32
1907 27
1908 18
1909 32
1910 36
1911 24
1912 22
1913 23
1914 22
1915 18
1916 25
1917 21
1918 21
1919 14
1920 8
1921 11
1922 14
1923 23
1924 18
1925 17
1926 19
1927 20
1928 22
1929 19
1930 13
1931 26
1932 13
1933 14
1934 22
1935 24
1936 21
1937 22
1938 26
1939 21
1940 23
1941 24
1942 27
1943 41 OMG!! IT MUST BE "PLANET X" FOR SURE!!
1944 31
1945 27
1946 35
1947 26
1948 28
1949 36
1950 39
1951 21
1952 17
1953 22
1954 17
1955 19
1956 15
1957 34
1958 10
1959 15
1960 22
1961 18
1962 15
1963 20
1964 15
1965 22
1966 19
1967 16
1968 30
1969 27
1970 29
1971 23
1972 20
1973 16
1974 21
1975 21
1976 25
1977 16
1978 18
1979 15
1980 18
1981 14
1982 10
1983 15
1984 8
1985 15
1986 6
1987 11
1988 8
1989 7
1990 18
1991 16
1992 13
1993 12
1994 13
1995 20
1996 15
1997 16
1998 12
1999 18
2000 15
2001 16
2002 13
2003 15
2004 16
2005 11
2006 11
2007 18
2008 12
2009 17
2010 24
2011 20
2012 7 (to date)

What does the above data tell us? For one thing, it tells us there's no increase in magnitude 7 or greater earthquakes. In fact, when comparing the years from 2003 to present with the the years between 1934 and 1954, the number of earthquakes magnitude 7 or greater is rather tame. Are "Planet X" believers going to tell us that "Planet X" was hovering around the sun during the 30s and 40s? After all, we had the Great Depression along with the Dust Bowl followed by WWII...all of which, had they happened today, would surely be used as evidence or even proof that "Planet X" was here. Now, I realize that "Planet X" believers will say, "Ha! Your list ONLY lists quakes with a magnitude 7 or greater. Earthquakes lower in magnitude are on the increase!" True, at first glance the data may suggest that. However, the explanation provided by geologists seems FAR MORE LIKELY. They claim that the number of small magnitude quakes APPEARS to be on the rise because the sensor network has gotten both larger and more sensitive...which means more earthquakes are being detected than they were before. The reason this seems far more likely to be the truth is because if a "rogue planet four times the size of Venus" were truly lurking about the inner solar system - we wouldn't see just an increase in small magnitude quakes. We'd see an increase across the spectrum. And it should be noted that within the past 10 years the entire west coast of North America hasn't experienced ANY strong quakes at all. How could a "rogue planet" affect all these other fault zones without affecting the San Andreas and the other large faults up and down the west coast?

Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 07/26/2012 06:42 AM

Don't confuse Nancy with facts and logic.

Yeah, a bunch of people are talking about the "south pole" and saying that specs about that location apply to the Antarctic stations, NONE of which are actually at the "south pole".

ill give you all the usgs graph for earthquake increase between 6-8 magnitude if u tell me how 2 embed pictures.

its very intriguing.

aren't mars, Pluto etc all warming up?? also hear about the unprecedented ice melt in Greenland?

Lets frickin hope for PX right guys?? Too many people on the planet if u ask me. Plus working and studying is not fun!!

Lol a website like zeta squawk kind of makes Zeta Talk seem legit, or at least a threat because who would be bothered to maintain a web page dedicated to discrediting a 70 yr old woman

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
There are other examples of people killing their families and themself because of the doomsday shit.
It doesn't matter if they got their "information" from Nancy liar or other doomsday liars.

Or take this: Thread: PROOF and History of Wormwood, Nibiru, Hercolubus, The dragon, Planet X, Hidden Message in movie BABYLON AD - New VIDEO
That guy spends thousands of $ for a raft and other survival equipment in anticipation of the coming doomsday.

How many lives have Nancy liar and cronies destroyed, how many families?

That's the reason to maintain a web page dedicated to discrediting a 70 yr old woman.



You have to be a paying member to do this.



No need - as CB said before: simple explanation: increasing number and sensitivity of EQ-sensors during the last decades.

What's more likely? This simple explanation or an invisible, immeasurable mysterious planet in our solar system?



How long can we measure this things? Where do you know, that this is not just a natural variation?

Remember Jupiter in spring 2010 when it had lost it's SEB? Doom? Some people said so - but it was just an erratic fluctuation, observed many times before.
BTW: It's back in the meantime.


Even with a basic school education you would know, that there is no Nibiru/PlanetX/brown dwarf ... in our solar system.
If you nevertheless believe in it, you admit that you didn't get this education.



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If people kill them selves over doomsday scenarios, they must have an extremely weak character, no disrespect to those who have taken their own lives.

"the average surface temperature of the nitrogen ice on Pluto has increased slightly less than 2 degrees Celsius over the past 14 years.”

Since Pluto is moving further away from the Sun and continuing to warm despite that fact, it indicates that something doesn’t fit into “Solar Constant” dismissal theories." - From MIT on Pluto.

I'm not saying Planet X IS real, but I am certainly open to the idea as I am of the belief that truth is stranger than fiction.

I see what your saying about the sensitivity of measuring instruments, that's a valid point that has been raised to me before, But living in New Zealand, we have experienced around 8000 earthquakes in the south island this year alone. It is this type of personal experience which raises concern. Are quakes not still measured by the Richter scale?

The main area of concern in terms of EQ's is the around the pacific ring of fire which has been seeing a lot of activity as of late, that's why i think japan is probably going to be struck again.

Hypothetically, if there was a pole shift/crustal displacement would any of u regret your skeptical stance?

And if the sky has fallen onto my head i would be afraid of it.
My, what a senseless babble.

Who in their right mind would spend so much time trying to convince people that "Planet X" is real if it was so obvious?

I'm sorry, what? If the sky fell onto your head you'd be afraid??

There are most definitely things that are unknown to humans that are beyond our comprehension, to think we know so much is dangerous arrogance. Don't forget that we are all little babies on this planet and we have hurt mother nature incredibly. Maybe its time we got a taste of our own medicine. You think Nancy is the only one who has spread the idea of cataclysms??

Why don't you start debunking the bible? Ohaspe? American Indians? They foretold of such things, as have MANY others!!! Maybe there is some thing to the warning man has been given.

I for one hope planet x is real, have you listened to tool??
Maybe you can relate to this song



Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see Armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will.
I sure could use a vacation from this......

Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks!!

Exactly how do you imagine a distant planet could cause warming or earthquakes even if it did exist? After all, we don't see those increases on Earth when Jupiter is closer in orbit, do we?

Describes ZT and the Ning fairly accurately.

Well apparently the warming is due to the "roiling" of the core.. (what ever that means). I guess it would have something to do with magnetic influences, because I sure as hell don't think there are any cars emitting greenhouse gasses on Pluto that would be warming her up? Does pluto even have an atmosphere, to be honest I don't know. These Tool lyrics are so fitting!! Especially that last line, I'll embolden it.



'Cause I'm praying for mayhem;
I'm praying for tidal waves
I wanna see the ground give way.
I wanna watch it all go down.
Mom, please, flush it all away.
I wanna see it go right in and down.
I wanna watch it go right in.
Watch you flush it all away.

Time to bring it down again.
Don't just call me pessimist.
Try and read between the lines.

I can't imagine why you wouldn't
Welcome any change, my friend.




"Some say a comet will fall from the sky.
Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by fault lines that cannot sit still.
Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits."

Much love guys, much love. May the force be with you!!

It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

You'll notice that I don't post things on a regular basis. Just when I feel like it.

Well, the major flaw with that theory is that Nancy has been claiming for the past 10 years that "Planet X" is sitting near the sun. So that would put Pluto much too far out to be influenced by any magnetic field from "Planet X." In addition, even if "Planet X" has some super magnetic field - it would still pale in comparison to the strongest magnet in our solar system - the sun. So, I fail to see how "Planet X" could influence weather on Pluto when the Sun's magnetic field is far stronger.

So you have no idea, not a clue, nothing, nada.

You "guess"? So you still have no clue.

IDK is becoming a theme with you.

Yeah, song lyrics are so convincing.

If you think I'm claiming lyrics as evidence then you may be even thicker than me. (no offense), I'm not claiming that i know any thing, just call it a hunch maybe? Those lyrics just seem fitting to the topic, plus who doesn't enjoy a good dose of doom to bring us down to earth.

While i don't have PROOF, i do have EVIDENCE to the reality of planet x, mainly the increasingly erratic weather, tectonic instability, sink holes, loud underground booms, all the photo and video captures, not to mention the fact that google sky etc remove coordinates from their maps.

I think of a pole shift as being like a tornado or a volcano erupting, just a natural part of our planets cycles.

What worries me most though, is all the insanity and madness that will ensue, due to peoples inability to cope with the earth changes. I'm sure we'll see the collapse of the global economy and much more violence and intolerance etc before any thing drastic happens. But think of what a blessing it would be.. No more 9-5, it's the common man who will survive, and the Elite will be back on equal footing with us. I don't know why any one wouldn't want a pole shift.

I hope I'm right, but if not we'll just fuck the planet and die any way. The way we live in unsustainable, we need a massive cull off of people (unfortunately) and a massive increase in tolerance, acceptance and love.

By what method have you determined that these are evidence for your Magical Mystery Planet and not anything else?


You are fucking insane.

You mean you just accept anything Nancy Lieder says about that as if it had an actual scientific basis?

In other words, you have bought, hook-line-and-sinker, a bunch of spun, cherry-picked and misrepresented data as "explained" by one Nancy Lieder.

I guess you must also believe that Earth is halted in orbit since 2003, right?

in the spirit of your last few posts, and your view on humanity in general..



have you ever noticed that people just before they say something REALLY offensive- always say-


`no disrespect'


then go on to say something REALLY disrespectful???


well `billy madison (a REALLY apt user name- a drunken sot who sees imaginary penguins...)


no disrespect....

but to quote you...



there's no love, a lot of `toolism' and quite frankly
(or to put it another way- NO OFFENCE')

YOU are the kind of people that inspire us to try and save even one of you from people like nancy...


because

`NO OFFENCE'

you should really be in medical care...

nuff said...

sighs

standard `bunker' fodder- care to actually show this `evidence' that this is unusual???

apart from `nancy says' and your own desire for mass deaths and destruction???


`THIS' is why many here actively pursue her (and her ilk)

Mentally challenged people like yourself (no disrespect to people who talk to imaginary penguins)


Believe anything they read on the net and get all excited when they think that the lack of personal motivation they lack (boring to learn stuff at school, boring to go to work to get money to live-


suck it up bitch (not to be disrespectful or anything to people with no motivation or to female canines....)





Well they actually believe that a planet/brown dwarf is in the inner solar system and has been for the last 9 years with no apparent effects apart from being visible on phone cameras (only when held behind cut up floppy discs), but are causing massive death and destruction- apart from that its not apparently actually distinguishable from the usual mayhem that happens every day...


and fall for `crapknowbabble' (copyright to me)- if trekkies can have techknowbabble' as a word- then debunkers should be allowed crapknowbabble as a `cromulant' word for the shitte people like nancy sprout and the shitte that people like billy madison professes to believe...


Your own posts are enough to make most sane people want to have people like you admitted involuntarily...


You seem to be just one small step from going postal in a public area- and most people see that as a bad thing....

just to let the guy who used a guy who gets pissed all the time, and sees imaginary penguins as his user name....

say using his own words




from someone who is `bored' with schooling and working...


(why he thinks that he is either (a) the common man or (b) anyone except nancy and her retarded doomtards (copyright me lol) would actually WANT a poleshift????

I mean- what STS (as nancy likes to call debunkers) would actively fight her on this??

STO- paranoid people that have already caused deaths and property destruction- even tho they have absolutely no actual evidence of planet x even existing

STS- the ones that actually want real physical evidence- say of the physical existence of a massive gravity inducing body in the solar system.. causing measurable effects in hundreds of years old, known to work, things like orbits of planets (calculated to within seconds after several human lifetimes)..

that surprisingly happen time after time....


bit like that `aussie debunker' in sydney that had her abuse him as a nasa shill- and told the web that the `evil nasa' had `modified' his equipement so the 2004 venus transit didn't happen right????

that was me...

and I was there after a former friend lost his job, his wife, his kids after listening to her `advice' back in 2003

No one even knows if he is even alive anymore- most people if they even think of him at all, would think he is now dead- probably is...

thanks to nancy....


`not to offend anyone' or anything

but I find you rather offensive..

but then I find most wilfully ignorant people offensive...

[quote:aussie 763624

I mean- what STS (as nancy likes to call debunkers) would actively fight her on this??

STO- paranoid people that have already caused deaths and property destruction- even tho they have absolutely no actual evidence of planet x even existing

STS- the ones that actually want real physical evidence- say of the physical existence of a massive gravity inducing body in the solar system.. causing measurable effects in hundreds of years old, known to work, things like orbits of planets (calculated to within seconds after several human lifetimes)..

sadly I made a mistake- After reading the latest nancy babble I suspect that she was not the only confused one mixing STO and STS `souls' and their behaviour and posts...


quote:aussie 763624
I mean- what STS (as nancy likes to call debunkers) would actively fight her on this??


As homer says... `DOH.'

STS- paranoid people that have already caused deaths and property destruction- even tho they have absolutely no actual evidence of planet x even existing

STO- the ones that actually want real physical evidence- say of the physical existence of a massive gravity inducing body in the solar system.. causing measurable effects in hundreds of years old, known to work, things like orbits of planets (calculated to within seconds after several human lifetimes)..

the descriptions should have been enough to clarify the positions- regardless of my spelling/ swapping mistakes as to the sto/sts ...)

Actually now I have to stop and think back- nancy was `the evil sts' were denying the indonesian sinking.

and I went from there- but hang on.. arent the evil sts actually denying its happened (in 2010/happening) and its the sto's who say it is??





oh confuzzling zetas- please implant someone who isnt a furkin merkin moran to be your spokesman...



(not that all americans are morons, just that country does seem to have a larger than normal proportion of them...)

sadly oz and nz seem to be catching up quickly (does the extravagance of `family first' a fundy christian church that's getting a major youth vote have anything to do with it?)


sadly 2 of the 4 teenagers I know are now suspicious of the moon landings.. even though all of them use data confirmed by them to get their mtv fix...


uggghh


if anyone deserves to go postal- its the debunkers- dealing with such stupidity as


`dur there was an earthquake' its plunnat hex ya'll'

day after day- year after year- troll after troll

It's actually hard to dumb yourself down that much that you can reply to their crap intelligently time after time- after the 500th time of `utz thir you dumb rse dbunker' and using basic maths and 300 year old knowledge to show it isn't...

you get tired of replying anything more than- `and dumbarse says `what'

just to watch the zetatards say `what'


LOL

I just want to re-iterate, that I have predicted that NOTHING out of the ordinary will happen at this years Olympics.

I'm just reminding everyone ...