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Prove it.

Oh wait, did the voices in your head tell you that?

Pathetic, melfster,utterly pathetic.

LOL! Guess you think it's been long enough since you last got your ass handed to you on this. Kind of like a poorly trained monkey.

BTW--care to fill us in on how those 2009 Lindsey Williams predictions are turning out?

No - the voices did not tell me that.

So, mefster, how long have you been hearing voices in your head, and did you just get your "facts" about luser from the same place zetatalk comes from, your ass?

Last Edited by The Commentator on 09/11/2009 02:10 AM

Please inform me why should apologize again?

And no is not a farmer. I do not produce crops.

yep Melfster certainly has a head that looks like an ass!!

And who does Ms LIEDer contract out a great portion of her GLP postings to currently?

well we all know who lost their contract a few years ago.......

Good point! And here all this time I thought his head was up his ass, not that his head was an ass. melfy is , well, fucked, no?

That doesn't PROVE she gets it. ZetaMax seemed to KNOW. Suspicious, IMO.

78/68 knows about as much about science as a worm knows about metaphysics.

Everything Loser 78/68 posts confirms him as a rude ignoramus.

Quite agree. All the evidence adds up in a much more convincing way than ZetaTalk/Planet X!

The Zetas aren't wrong because NANCY and her cronies make all this shit up.
If "Zetans" are a true race of beings not from here I don't believe for a second they would contact her.... They would at the very least contact someone who isn't suffering senile dementia.

If they did they wouldn't call themselves Zetans, because humans named the star system Zeta Reticuli, they would introduce us to themselves as they are for themselves, not what we believe them to be.

If they are an older, more advanced civilization - I don't care, we are more than smart enough to not have to be babied and anything saying "come on little humans, lalalala" is not benevolent - it's manipulative.

My 2 cents, thanks for reading

Quite agree. Been saying this for eight years!

Wasn't it you on the previous page who said we should be listening to what a preacher said about Alaska even though he has no formal education in geology, which is a form of science?

Which way to you want to go with this. Pick one: either you need to have some form of education on a subject, or you don't.

So, when can we expect to see this supporting evidence?

:5:

'Scientific credentials' are only acceptable when they can be used in support of ZetaTalk!

Like every other piece of 'evidence'. If it can't be manipulated to fit the delusion it is rejected.

Supposedly, an intact palm frond is brought up on a deep drilling rig, and there are NO pictures taken of it, NO supprting witnesses other than a baptist preacher, NO studies done of it,.....

This is pretty much par for Max.

Yeah, that goes along with the rest of their reasoning: If someone debunks ZetaTalk, it's because the establishment is afraid of the message. If no one debunks ZetaTalk, it's because the "establishment" is afraid of the message.

I watched the movie "Serpico" with Al Pacino on video last night. Have never actually seen the movie before - though of course who hasn't heard about it. Anyhow, I was struck by how pervasive the corruption was - it was the NORM rather than the exception. Serpico HIMSELF was the exception!! Not only was there no peer pressure to do the "right thing", nor even a "live and let live" ethic pervading, but in fact the peer pressure was emphatically to do the WRONG thing - and someone, like Serpico, who would have been more than happy to "live and let live", was instead driven - quite literally - to the point where he felt he had nothing left to lose, and nothing else to live for. Instead what replaced a true "code of ethics" was MISPLACED "unconditional loyalty to your brother officer".

So - with this kind of dynamic being the norm rather than the exception, the debunkers here would have us believe that the "scientific community" is immune to this kind of twisted cronyism - and values "truth" above "status" and "reputation" and "peer acceptance".

Yeah - right!!!

No, quite the opposite. It is the bunkers who would have us believe that every scientist is being silenced or controlled by the government. They even want people to believe that the government is capable of exerting control over amateur scientists such as backyard astronomers the world over. When asked how such a feat is even possible, they respond with silence.

>> silenced or controlled by the government

Not directly. PEER PRESSURE is the DIRECT mechanism. However, the indirect mechanism is achieved through FUNDING - and rewarding "scientists" who espouse views that are in lockstep with "government" ambitions, and ignoring or marginalizing scientists who espouse views not in accord with "government" ambitions. Rarely however, is it necessary for direct intervention, as "Serpico" type renegades truly are the RARE exception.

I always "smile" whenever Agent 88 goes on insisting on only "peer reviewed" *scientific* literature - as if that was the most "trustworthy" source of "truthful" material!

Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 09/11/2009 01:33 PM

Not everyone is a gullible coward like you. Many people have credibility and integrity.

This just shows your blinkered tainted view of the world.

Serpico is a movie (albeit a very good one). Most movies are NOT highly realistic, they do not represent reality accurately. You are foolish to take a movie's portrayal of (a fictionalised small part of) the world and apply it to everything.

Everything you post is shot full of delusion, ignorance, fear and blatant stupidity.

"Serpico" is based on the true life of NYPD cop Francis (Frank) Serpico. As such it is quite accurate in detail - though some characters are composites, and some events are "edited" for compression and flow purposes - and perhaps a sprinkling of "artistic license" here and there. In real life, Serpico went to the NY Times after he was severely harrassed at customs coming back from Europe. In the movie, it was after being dissed by the upper brass. By and large though, the movie is dead on when it comes to how corrupt the plain-clothes guys were, and how hard it was for Serpico to try and do the job of an "honest" cop.

Most people will coast through life unharrassed once they learn "not to make waves" - in **ANY** field of endeavor. Just "go along to get along". A minority embrace and celebrate the corruption, and an even smaller minority will risk everything to combat the corruption. The problem is, that the corrupt minority have often successfully corrupted the "passive majority" (well portrayed in the movie by more than one cop spilling his guts to Serpico and lamenting the corruption, but accepting thier "share" nonetheless) - so that when the overall corruption is threatened, the "passive majority" find themselves with almost as much to lose as those who "love" the corruption - and side with them overwhelmingly when "the heat is on" - against the renegade "do-gooder".

This dynamic may not be as "extreme" in other fields, but it is certainly present - such as pressure put on hard-working assembly line personal to "slow down", etc. Innovative and creative teachers find themselves ostracized, and on and on.

>> Many people have credibility and integrity.

True enough, but the VAST VAST majority of those will NOT risk "everything" to champion these virtues in the face of personal and professional destruction.

As always, evil succeeds when good men do nothing.

>> This just shows your blinkered tainted view of the world.

And of course, no more pertinent example of this "reality" exists than that of Nazi Germany. There simply weren't enough "Serpicos" to make a difference.

Care to explain why? (thought not ...)

Hopefully that "won't" be the case here in America - but I have my doubts ...

Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 09/11/2009 06:44 PM

You're wrong. I sit on the train ride home at least three days a week with a Ph.D. micro-biologist who is doing vaccine research on the flu on a government grant/contract. Like most of these dudes (including my younger sister who is also a Ph.D. micro-biologist), he chose his field because he loves research and discovery, and dreamed of finding - or at least contributing to - a cure for cancer. He's not at all "thrilled" to be doing vaccine research - which he concedes is not a "silver bullet" even in the best of circumstances, but he's doing it because "nothing else is getting funded" these days. HIS WORDS.

Yes - most people were, at one time in their youth, idealistic and ambitious. But then like most, they "grow up", have kids, get a BIG mortgage, and ...

GO ALONG TO GET ALONG.

Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 09/11/2009 07:11 PM

That 'scientist' you sit with sounds as jaded and paranoid as you do. Odd that. Sounds almost like you're making it up.

Your 'homespun' philosophy is infantile and simplistic and shows you have little understanding of the real world.

Uh yea ... "AC" - care to elaborate?????? (thought not!)

You live for baiting people. huh Maxie?

"Nothing else is getting funded" these days? Obviously, you have no clue about what the NIH and other agencies are spending on research grants.

[link to grants.nih.gov]

As for your supposed commute companion, it would appear that he's either gotten himself stuck in the wrong field, the wrong institute, or just doesn't have the necessary experience to be a cancer researcher.

You take a rather simplistic view of the world and have blinders on when it comes to things you believe to be the truth. It's no wonder you have fallen into the clutches of Nancy's pseudo-cult.

As for being a "fence sitter" you've proven to all of us with your constant support of Nancy (zetatalk) and constant non-questioning of the same that you are firmly in the middle of Nancy's lawn so to speak. You never were a "fence sitter" but just jumped her fence with room to spare and have taken permanent residence in Nancy's camp.

I was QUOTING him - not making a blanket assertion that there was absolutely NO money for cancer research available. If that was true, my sister wouldn't be working.

>> or just doesn't have the necessary experience to be a cancer researcher

I'll give you credit on that one - he just got his Ph.D. last year. My sister got hers over five years ago, and got a cancer research position right away (five years ago was a DIFFERENT world economically - and cancer research money was relatively plentiful). Still - she is basically "locked in" to a paricular track of cancer research, with projects defined in GREAT detail before funding is granted, and for a period of like five years. Once granted, there is little leeway for experimentation - the researcher sticks to the script. Deviations require LOTS of justification and are rarely granted without a VERY, VERY good reason. Edison/Tesla style research is almost completely non-existant today - and even Edison and Tesla had boundaries set by the financiers - but NOTHING like today.

Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 09/11/2009 10:29 PM

Yes it would be a nice change if Max could actually learn some real truth and some real knowledge on a particular subject for once.