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Yes, I've seen NanZeta squirm before when her pronouncements are obviously going to be shown to be insane.
She makes some idiotic blanket edict such as 'We aren't allowed to give a date' and that is supposed to make the embarrassing citation go away.
It doesn't.
The statement was made when NanZeta's delusions thought that the PS would definitely happen before 2012.
Damage control is not exactly accuracy.

How about Indonesia?
Crop Failures?
Satellite Failures?
No regime change in Iraq?
"Weeks, not months" back in summer 2003?
"Certain death" for the ISS occupants winter 2003-2004?
etc, etc, etc.

Zetas wrong again, and again and again and...
Almost like they were as dumb as a little old lady in Wisconsin.

Tards.


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Actually, anyone with their full faculties intact would see, over time, that what I said was correct.

I was about to challenge you to support another "Zeta" false claim, but why bother, since you would simply, dance, dodge and refuse. Yawn.

ZetaTalk claims to be 100 percent accurate. If you come to the first point where it is not accurate - it's done.

Another example:


Earth Twin
ZetaTalk: Earth Twin
written on Oct 15, 1995
"... your Earth has a dead twin that shares her orbit and is placed so exactly opposite the Earth that it can never be seen. ..."
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

I take the easy approach and just quote Wikipedia.
If one of the Poleshit-Ningers thinks, Wikipedia is wrong: Do the math and prove it wrong.

"... if such a planet actually existed it would be detectable from Earth, according to the laws of physics and cosmology, for a number of reasons.
* Earth's orbit is elliptical, while a Counter-Earth would have difficulty staying 180 degrees from Earth unless both planets' orbits were circular. Following Kepler's second law, a planet revolves faster when it is close to the star, so a Counter-Earth following the Earth on the same orbit with half a year of delay would sometimes be visible from Earth.
* It would have gravitational influence upon the other planets, comets and man-made probes of the Solar System. No such influence has been detected, and indeed space probes sent to Venus, Mars and other places could not have successfully flown by or landed on their targets if a Counter-Earth existed.
* Furthermore, the mass of the planet Jupiter is so great it affects the movement of the sun, preventing it from blocking the view of a planet 180 degrees from earth. Jupiter actually revolves not around the sun but a point (a "barycenter") lying outside of the Sun, which the Sun in turn revolves around. Since part of the Sun would have to lie in the barycenter to block Earth's view of a Counter-Earth, this slight effect on the position of the Sun (and the fact that this orbital rotation is not synchronous with Earth's orbit) means a Counter-Earth should sometimes be visible from Earth.
* Any planetary sized body 180 degrees from Earth should also have been visible to some space probes, such as NASA's STEREO coronagraph probes (two spacecraft launched into orbits around the sun in 2006, one farther ahead of and one behind the Earth's orbit) which would have seen the Counter-Earth during the first half of 2007. The separation of the STEREO spacecraft from Earth would give them a view of the Lagrangian "L3" point during the early phase of the mission."
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Counter Earth (Earth Twin) not possible.
ZETAS WRONG AGAIN



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The Zetatalk accuracy site [link to www.zetatalk.com] is self explaining. Read and understand.

Just from that site:


Earth Wobble
ZetaTalk: a Twirling Wobble
written May 25 2004
"An Earth wobble developed in 2004, under the influence of Planet X, the Zetas first warning of the extent of this on May 25, 2004. By Nov 27, 2004 the wobble had become obvious. ...
The Figure 8 pattern was documented by people all over the world ..."
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

In 1996 Meade introduced the ETX-Series, computer aided Telescopes. The smallest, ETX-60 and ETX-70, come with the Autostar #494 that can not be updated (lates firmware still from 2001).

Please explain, how a computerised telescope, programmed in (at best) 2001 can still go to and track celestial objects, when Earth wobbles uncontrollable since 2004.

Perhaps you can ask Alberto Cardin - he owns (or owned) one. Unfortunately he never made one of his famous sun shots with his ETX.
Was it because he couldn't find Planet X and the moon swirls with the ETX? Yep - the ETX don't produce lense flares.

No Earth wobble
ZETAS WRONG AGAIN

ZetaTalk claims to be 100 percent accurate. If you come to the first point where it is not accurate - it's done.




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You keep posting that link, is it your turn today for the recruitment drive?

Lonely, were so lonely, have no members to call our own, ohhh, were so lonely.

Just from that site:


Earth Twin
ZetaTalk: Earth Twin
written on Oct 15, 1995
"... your Earth has a dead twin that shares her orbit and is placed so exactly opposite the Earth that it can never be seen. ..."
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

I take the easy approach and just quote Wikipedia.
If you think, Wikipedia is wrong: Do the math and prove it wrong.

"... if such a planet actually existed it would be detectable from Earth, according to the laws of physics and cosmology, for a number of reasons.
* Earth's orbit is elliptical, while a Counter-Earth would have difficulty staying 180 degrees from Earth unless both planets' orbits were circular. Following Kepler's second law, a planet revolves faster when it is close to the star, so a Counter-Earth following the Earth on the same orbit with half a year of delay would sometimes be visible from Earth.
* It would have gravitational influence upon the other planets, comets and man-made probes of the Solar System. No such influence has been detected, and indeed space probes sent to Venus, Mars and other places could not have successfully flown by or landed on their targets if a Counter-Earth existed.
* Furthermore, the mass of the planet Jupiter is so great it affects the movement of the sun, preventing it from blocking the view of a planet 180 degrees from earth. Jupiter actually revolves not around the sun but a point (a "barycenter") lying outside of the Sun, which the Sun in turn revolves around. Since part of the Sun would have to lie in the barycenter to block Earth's view of a Counter-Earth, this slight effect on the position of the Sun (and the fact that this orbital rotation is not synchronous with Earth's orbit) means a Counter-Earth should sometimes be visible from Earth.
* Any planetary sized body 180 degrees from Earth should also have been visible to some space probes, such as NASA's STEREO coronagraph probes (two spacecraft launched into orbits around the sun in 2006, one farther ahead of and one behind the Earth's orbit) which would have seen the Counter-Earth during the first half of 2007. The separation of the STEREO spacecraft from Earth would give them a view of the Lagrangian "L3" point during the early phase of the mission."
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Earth Twin (Counter Earth) not possible.
ZETAS WRONG AGAIN

ZetaTalk claims to be 100 percent accurate. If you come to the first point where it is not accurate - it's done.

Shall I go on?




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No. I would decribe my religion as follows: obtain the Father's Love in my soul which is then transformed into the very essence of him through new birth (attribute after attribute). You could also say it is devine love when converted into the very essence of the Father. Works through faith and prayer. I Consider Jesus Christ as my brother who brought this message to all of us.

No church, no rituals, no cults, no bible, no tools needed. Just You and God having Jesus on your site.

Men should understand that you can do this while you are incarnated, while you are on the earth plane.

How about answering my questions?



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No.



I don't understand what you are saying here. I am not alone , if you mean that.

Have read. Have understood. It's a pack of falsehoods, misrepresentations and outright lies.

Babble! Read and understand, you are not doing it otherwise you wouldn't ask me to answer it. There is no need to explain anything to you, don't you get it? Are you lazy or what?

Zetatalk is clearly the equivalent of your Bible, since whenever questions are put to you, you refer people to that for the answers.

Your assumption implies that you haven't.

Nope, incorrect assumption of what zetatalk is for me. You are far away from even the slightest understanding. You are just beeing ignorant here.

What alleged assumption is that?

Please point to the ZetaTalk, where my question is answered.
Exact link/links please.

If there is no ZetaTalk that answers my specific question, please answer it:



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Last Edited by Hydra on 03/19/2013 02:39 PM

When pressed for personal views, you refer people to Zetatalk. That is exactly what people do with the Bible. We are going in circles. If I am being ignorant, you are welcome to enlighten me... but you won't... you'll just say: Read Zetatalk. Did that. It'a pack of lies in claims relating to the measureable physical world.

This it is:



You claim having read and understood zetatalk entirely but you haven't, which leads inevitable to your false assumption.

Please point to the ZetaTalk, where my question is answered.
Exact link/links please.

If there is no ZetaTalk that answers my specific question, please answer it:



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I made no claim to have read Zetatalk "entirely". Virtually no one can make that claim due to the sheer volume. However, no amount of reading of that site will change the fact that what I HAVE read contains dozens if not hundreds of demonstrably false statements and claims.

You keep touting Zeta "accuracy" and pointing to that list which, in fact, contains falsehood after falsehood. No amount of dancing around the facts, on your part, will change that.

See? That's why I won't answer your question(s). I can not enlighten you because we cannot be on the same page regarding zetatalk because you deny beeing there, free will at work so to speak. You finally made a correct statement of us running in circles and it took so long for you? No wonder that a concept the zetas present to us takes so long to be understood.

Please point to the ZetaTalk, where my question is answered. Exact link/links please.

If you can't, I must assume that the Zetas didn't address this point because they don't know what to answer.



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Do you believe the poleshift is coming?
Can you explain why the poleshift, predicted to happen in 2003 by the Zetas, didn't happen?
Are the Zetas lying?

What does "on the same page" mean? It appears to mean "believe what Zetatalk says", is that correct?




So you assert that I just don't properly understand things like the claim that Earth is halted in orbit? What is it about that that you feel I don't understand?

Oh, it's been obvious that we were going in circles for some time now. I just enjoy seeing you dance.

It's about time for the Kiwi AC to take over the trolling, isn't it?

Correct. Running in circles since you deny to discuss zetatalk because you haven't read and understand it to the best of your knowlegde.

[link to www.youtube.com]

The only place I "deny being" is that place of believing what Zetatalk says. It's clear that you equate "understanding" with "believing".

Zeta statements about things like that the moon should not appear to rotate over some 7% as it crosses the sky, are simply false, and intended to fool the gullible among us who don't know any astronomy. ie: I UNDERSTAND that Zetatalk, but I DO NOT BELIEVE IT.

Pardon? Have you read this thread? It is not important what I believe. Do you need hand holding or what? Answer your questions by doing the work.