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[link to cosmoquest.org]

Well that didn't last long- two posts and he's already begging the mods to delete his account (again)

Still has a rager on for the B.A tho LOL
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And this bit was classic:

"I do not get any knowledge from science. I'm no skeptic. I follow what sounds right to me. Far more than science can produce. Check the net and go for the most far flung ideas. Aliens also supply the where abouts."

I kind of feel sorry for the guy......
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' I do not get any knowledge from science.'
he says-typing on the computer science made possible
powered by the electricity science discovered
on the Internet made possible by science
connected by the satellites that were launched by science

How ironic..... and rather pathetic
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' I do not get any knowledge from science.'
he says-typing on the computer science made possible
powered by the electricity science discovered
on the Internet made possible by science
connected by the satellites that were launched by science

How ironic..... and rather pathetic
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The translation is rather simple:

"I don't have the ability to understand science, so I'm just going to use my imagination and believe in super fun things like aliens and rogue planets with magical powers. This feels right to me because it's all I'm capable of."

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The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'
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' I do not get any knowledge from science.'
he says-typing on the computer science made possible
powered by the electricity science discovered
on the Internet made possible by science
connected by the satellites that were launched by science

How ironic..... and rather pathetic
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And very, very Free Store.
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How's Nancy doing these days ?
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Still batshit crazy
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How's Nancy doing these days ?
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Still batshit crazy
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Not been around much lately but completely forgot about her, just had a quick look over yonder and see she is still making excuses about "the announcement".
Yup, still crazy.
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I still wander over to the ning sometimes, but it's become a ghosttown really. Her 'zetababble' chats are usually 4 or 5 posts only, with most posts hers lol

Its all rather threadbare and dilapidated looking these days, there only so many times even the dumbest of suckers will accept yet another 'soon' before it sinks in that 'soon' means 'never'

So as far as planet x goes, nancy has become a non event, even the planetx believers don't have any faith in her anymore


Couldn't happen to a better person lol
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I do wonder if she actually believes in her own scam, it's obvious donations and ego were her intentions which indeed worked but her notoriety has woke many up. Her adamancy makes me think she actually now believes her own babble.
I'm just glad her audience is almost non-existent now.
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I think she started it off as a scam, (although with a nugget of belief to begin with) but these days has well and truely fallen down the rabbit hole....

Remember too that she is nearly 80 and her mental state was questionable to begin with- these days I suspect she is not quite 'all there' so to speak, not that she ever was to begin with

I just had a quick gander at her website ratings- zetatalk is falling badly, two yearsago it was still (suprisingly) making a fairly good income- around 150 a day before expenses and was worth 80k if sold- compare that to todays evaluation which its worth 1100 bucks- and has an income of just $2 a day...

[link to zetatalk.com.statstool.com]

Seems that even the faithful are staying away in droves, most of her traffic is from russia, and I'D suspect most of that is mirroring to the alternate servers
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$2 a day, must be due a recruitment drive attempt soon then
( not Lieder 'soon' ).
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An interesting in-general kind of article...

[link to broadly.vice.com (secure)]
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An interesting in-general kind of article...

[link to broadly.vice.com (secure)]
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Bookmarked for later.
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An interesting in-general kind of article...

[link to broadly.vice.com (secure)]
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Very interesting.
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Nice to see someone see the light, but from personal experience I think that they are rather understating the numbers of people involved.

I know personally three chemtrailers, one been one since the 80's, the other two both relative newcomers in their teens, and their online numbers seem to suggest that their numbers are much higher than suggested in that article.

Woo in general seems to be on the rise, moon hoaxers are back on the rise, as are freeman on the land- especially amongst teens and 20's I would put the believers at close to 50% in younger people, there seems to be a strong anti science beliefs/anti authority background to it which is worrying to me.

They do tend to stay away from forums as such and tend to post more on social media, and many have their own private groups that are hard to even get access to unless invited in
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A site IDW claims is impossible, since we don't have the Mayan calendar anymore...

[link to xjubier.free.fr]
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Don't throw stones (or tomatoes) at me - but I couldn't resist: Thread: Mercury (Nibiru) Passes In Front Of The Sun On May 9, 2016

chuckle

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Don't throw stones (or tomatoes) at me - but I couldn't resist: Thread: Mercury (Nibiru) Passes In Front Of The Sun On May 9, 2016

chuckle

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Youtube will be inundated with proof next week.
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Don't throw stones (or tomatoes) at me - but I couldn't resist: Thread: Mercury (Nibiru) Passes In Front Of The Sun On May 9, 2016

chuckle

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Youtube will be inundated with proof next week.
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Seems the Nibbie tards are a little upset now.

chuckle

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Don't throw stones (or tomatoes) at me - but I couldn't resist: Thread: Mercury (Nibiru) Passes In Front Of The Sun On May 9, 2016

chuckle

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lmao
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Don't throw stones (or tomatoes) at me - but I couldn't resist: Thread: Mercury (Nibiru) Passes In Front Of The Sun On May 9, 2016

chuckle

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Youtube will be inundated with proof next week.
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Seems the Nibbie tards are a little upset now.

chuckle

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Okay, that thread was darn funny.
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How's Nancy doing these days ?
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Still batshit crazy
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Not been around much lately but completely forgot about her, just had a quick look over yonder and see she is still making excuses about "the announcement".
Yup, still crazy.
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What I dislike most about her is she excuses her utter lack of knowledge in science and astronomy by claiming human science and astronomy are all wrong, and they physics work differently than we understand. Someone intelligent: ´´PX would just zip past the Solar System to never return if it was going that fast´´ Nancy:´´ Mm, Gravity works in particle flow, even though humans have believed for years its just a force´´ Zeta talk follower ( idiot):´´You cant win against the Zetas and their knowledge.´´
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How's Nancy doing these days ?
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Still batshit crazy
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Not been around much lately but completely forgot about her, just had a quick look over yonder and see she is still making excuses about "the announcement".
Yup, still crazy.
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What I dislike most about her is she excuses her utter lack of knowledge in science and astronomy by claiming human science and astronomy are all wrong, and they physics work differently than we understand. Someone intelligent: ´´PX would just zip past the Solar System to never return if it was going that fast´´ Nancy:´´ Mm, Gravity works in particle flow, even though humans have believed for years its just a force´´ Zeta talk follower ( idiot):´´You cant win against the Zetas and their knowledge.´´
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What have Nibbie tards and Flatties in common?

Hint: See above.

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
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Still batshit crazy
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Not been around much lately but completely forgot about her, just had a quick look over yonder and see she is still making excuses about "the announcement".
Yup, still crazy.
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What I dislike most about her is she excuses her utter lack of knowledge in science and astronomy by claiming human science and astronomy are all wrong, and they physics work differently than we understand. Someone intelligent: ´´PX would just zip past the Solar System to never return if it was going that fast´´ Nancy:´´ Mm, Gravity works in particle flow, even though humans have believed for years its just a force´´ Zeta talk follower ( idiot):´´You cant win against the Zetas and their knowledge.´´
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72200482

What have Nibbie tards and Flatties in common?

Hint: See above.

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Hey all,
I take a peek in here and there once in a while.
What I found rather funny is, that they are still praising Flareberto's flares and people would come in and thank him for his valuable pictures that nobody can reproduce (or not to mention: correlate) -.-

Oh well.. let the (insert appropriate description) be.
zetaretards

Greetings to y'll,
I thought about debunking some of Nancy's claims regarding Geology and plate tectonics, but hell, there are really just the same old people left who cannot be convinced by evidence anyway.
lala

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 05/13/2016 03:13 PM
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The Paul Cox / Slooh thread is comedy gold.

Thread: Astronomer finally admits to a second sun in our system.Says NASA have been covering it up ?UPDATED. With response from Paul Cox.

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how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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planet x
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It really is!
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I truly despair at that thread, and now the email from Paul Cox ...
Our British humour is wasted on Nibtards.
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Not been around much lately but completely forgot about her, just had a quick look over yonder and see she is still making excuses about "the announcement".
Yup, still crazy.
 Quoting: Wispa


What I dislike most about her is she excuses her utter lack of knowledge in science and astronomy by claiming human science and astronomy are all wrong, and they physics work differently than we understand. Someone intelligent: ´´PX would just zip past the Solar System to never return if it was going that fast´´ Nancy:´´ Mm, Gravity works in particle flow, even though humans have believed for years its just a force´´ Zeta talk follower ( idiot):´´You cant win against the Zetas and their knowledge.´´
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72200482

What have Nibbie tards and Flatties in common?

Hint: See above.

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 Quoting: Hydra


Hey all,
I take a peek in here and there once in a while.
What I found rather funny is, that they are still praising Flareberto's flares and people would come in and thank him for his valuable pictures that nobody can reproduce (or not to mention: correlate) -.-

Oh well.. let the (insert appropriate description) be.
:zetaretards:

Greetings to y'll,
I thought about debunking some of Nancy's claims regarding Geology and plate tectonics, but hell, there are really just the same old people left who cannot be convinced by evidence anyway.
lala
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MoreAboutTunnelVision, I found my way here from that old Google Doc. But yeah, the only ones I still see over there are Nancy, Gerard, Astrogal and a few others. Its really sad, that after so many failed predicitions they still belive her, I mean, if Nancy told them to sell everything they own because Zetas dont like material posetions, they'd probably do it. And since no PX is coming, their lives would be practically ruined in that scenario. And with soul densities, I dont really understand it. So astrogal is a 7th density sould or whatever, that means she is comparable to some sort of demigod. It just seems like its a disguised method to create a hierarchy where it's impossible to refute anything the leaders say withput appearing as an idiot to everyone else there. Basically, a cult, like you said. But this cult has one huge weakness that others dont. Its not a suicide cult, and its not the kind of cult where someone else can easily take over after the original leader dies. And Nancy will die eventually. She is not inmortal, she is old (+70)and even in a first world nation, its still uncomon for someone to reach 100 years. And even old age alone will stop her from leading the site and the ning. Do they really belive this old woman is going to survive their prophesised pole shift, and lead the post-pole shift government? She is two decades from dying at best, now we still have technology, which will be largely lost to such a event.And when she dies, Zetatalk will die rather rapidly. She has made it in such a way that she is the only leader. SUre, astrogal or Gerard may take over, but Nancy claims to be the Zetas' chosen one, the only one to whome the Zetas will give the correct information. For years she has told other ''contactees'' that if anything they are ``told`` goes against what she said, it is wrong. SHe made it in such a way that it will die almost imediately after she dies.
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What I dislike most about her is she excuses her utter lack of knowledge in science and astronomy by claiming human science and astronomy are all wrong, and they physics work differently than we understand. Someone intelligent: ´´PX would just zip past the Solar System to never return if it was going that fast´´ Nancy:´´ Mm, Gravity works in particle flow, even though humans have believed for years its just a force´´ Zeta talk follower ( idiot):´´You cant win against the Zetas and their knowledge.´´
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72200482

What have Nibbie tards and Flatties in common?

Hint: See above.

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 Quoting: Hydra


Hey all,
I take a peek in here and there once in a while.
What I found rather funny is, that they are still praising Flareberto's flares and people would come in and thank him for his valuable pictures that nobody can reproduce (or not to mention: correlate) -.-

Oh well.. let the (insert appropriate description) be.
zetaretards

Greetings to y'll,
I thought about debunking some of Nancy's claims regarding Geology and plate tectonics, but hell, there are really just the same old people left who cannot be convinced by evidence anyway.
lala
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision

MoreAboutTunnelVision, I found my way here from that old Google Doc. But yeah, the only ones I still see over there are Nancy, Gerard, Astrogal and a few others. Its really sad, that after so many failed predicitions they still belive her, I mean, if Nancy told them to sell everything they own because Zetas dont like material posetions, they'd probably do it. And since no PX is coming, their lives would be practically ruined in that scenario. And with soul densities, I dont really understand it. So astrogal is a 7th density sould or whatever, that means she is comparable to some sort of demigod. It just seems like its a disguised method to create a hierarchy where it's impossible to refute anything the leaders say withput appearing as an idiot to everyone else there. Basically, a cult, like you said. But this cult has one huge weakness that others dont. Its not a suicide cult, and its not the kind of cult where someone else can easily take over after the original leader dies. And Nancy will die eventually. She is not inmortal, she is old (+70)and even in a first world nation, its still uncomon for someone to reach 100 years. And even old age alone will stop her from leading the site and the ning. Do they really belive this old woman is going to survive their prophesised pole shift, and lead the post-pole shift government? She is two decades from dying at best, now we still have technology, which will be largely lost to such a event.And when she dies, Zetatalk will die rather rapidly. She has made it in such a way that she is the only leader. SUre, astrogal or Gerard may take over, but Nancy claims to be the Zetas' chosen one, the only one to whome the Zetas will give the correct information. For years she has told other ''contactees'' that if anything they are ``told`` goes against what she said, it is wrong. SHe made it in such a way that it will die almost imediately after she dies.
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Never underestimate the power of belief. Especially in circumstances where an individual has invested large amounts of time and ego.

What is to prevent one of the people you mentioned from getting a magical "Starburst Candy" specifically intended for them?
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MoreAboutTunnelVision, I found my way here from that old Google Doc.
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Hey there!
Do you mind me asking how you got to the google doc? (just curious :-)

But yeah, the only ones I still see over there are Nancy, Gerard, Astrogal and a few others. Its really sad, that after so many failed predicitions they still belive her, I mean, if Nancy told them to sell everything they own because Zetas dont like material posetions, they'd probably do it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72222673

Absolutely (if Nancy would invent a semi-plausible reason "per the Zetas")!


And since no PX is coming, their lives would be practically ruined in that scenario.
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You were probably refering to your example above but I want to point out that she is already "ruining" other peoples life! Alone the Moderators I was working with were all very much into it (i.e. preparing, cutting work/family/friends if they disagree etc).


And with soul densities, I dont really understand it. So astrogal is a 7th density sould or whatever, that means she is comparable to some sort of demigod. It just seems like its a disguised method to create a hierarchy where it's impossible to refute anything the leaders say withput appearing as an idiot to everyone else there. Basically, a cult, like you said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72222673

Exactly.


But this cult has one huge weakness that others dont. Its not a suicide cult, and its not the kind of cult where someone else can easily take over after the original leader dies. And Nancy will die eventually. She is not inmortal, she is old (+70)and even in a first world nation, its still uncomon for someone to reach 100 years. And even old age alone will stop her from leading the site and the ning. Do they really belive this old woman is going to survive their prophesised pole shift, and lead the post-pole shift government? She is two decades from dying at best, now we still have technology, which will be largely lost to such a event.And when she dies, Zetatalk will die rather rapidly. She has made it in such a way that she is the only leader. SUre, astrogal or Gerard may take over, but Nancy claims to be the Zetas' chosen one, the only one to whome the Zetas will give the correct information. For years she has told other ''contactees'' that if anything they are ``told`` goes against what she said, it is wrong. SHe made it in such a way that it will die almost imediately after she dies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72222673

That's the interesting outcome we'll have to see.
For certain is, that no "true believer" can ever become the successor of ZetaTalk because she would have to reveal her "secret" which would mean: per the Zetas = per Nancy and that surely wouldn't work with someone whose belief-system is/was heavily based upon that premise.
BUT that does not exclude the possibility that someone else ( a non believer - who is aware of her "magic trick") can take her position!
Therefore, IF there will be a successor, it will be someone rather unknown to the community or he/she was introduced slightly before as part of the disguise-plot.

I was always wondering what Nancy's son thinks about her Mommy, but then he just seems to be living his own life which I can perfectly understand..

btw: Where is Astrogal? I thought she left the ship years ago?

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 05/17/2016 06:36 PM
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