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andrew User ID: 909865 Ukraine 03/08/2010 08:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Really? Then present some of your "FACTS." These "FACTS" need to be from credible sources...which means sources OTHER than ZetaTalk. Can you do that? Can you also prove that "Planet X" exists? Quoting: Circuit Breaker[link to www.vimeo.com] I said credible sources...that video does nothing to support your claims about "pole shifts." Welcome to fail. Again. what is a **credible source**, to you? one that is supported by opinions of other "authoritative" figures? then opinions of Nancy/Zetas should be a credible source to you,since it is supported by so many people, whose opinions are supported by many other people. |
VestanPance User ID: 884100 United Kingdom 03/08/2010 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Really? Then present some of your "FACTS." These "FACTS" need to be from credible sources...which means sources OTHER than ZetaTalk. Can you do that? Can you also prove that "Planet X" exists? Quoting: andrew[link to www.vimeo.com] I said credible sources...that video does nothing to support your claims about "pole shifts." Welcome to fail. Again. what is a **credible source**, to you? one that is supported by opinions of other "authoritative" figures? then opinions of Nancy/Zetas should be a credible source to you,since it is supported by so many people, whose opinions are supported by many other people. Sorry, but Nancy is not supported by anyone reputable. Credible means to be given and passed a period of peer review, Non of Nancys claims havent even got anywhere near peer review. Last Edited by VestanPance on 03/08/2010 08:38 AM Cheers. ----------------------------- "Shit, if this is gonna be that kind of party, I'm going to stick my dick in the mashed potatoes." "The gene pool is stagnant and I am the minister of chlorine" "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 909859 Germany 03/08/2010 08:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Really? Then present some of your "FACTS." These "FACTS" need to be from credible sources...which means sources OTHER than ZetaTalk. Can you do that? Can you also prove that "Planet X" exists? Quoting: andrew[link to www.vimeo.com] I said credible sources...that video does nothing to support your claims about "pole shifts." Welcome to fail. Again. what is a **credible source**, to you? one that is supported by opinions of other "authoritative" figures? then opinions of Nancy/Zetas should be a credible source to you,since it is supported by so many people, whose opinions are supported by many other people. Which many people ? the ning has not even 1000 members. |
andrew User ID: 909865 Ukraine 03/08/2010 08:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Space trash falldown as you put it is completely unrelated, why even mention it? Quoting: VestanPanceimpacts of space objects are an irregular event, catastrophic event. "magnetic reversals" are too. FAIL, as I have stated there are NO catastrophic events linked with Magnetic reversal. Quoting: VestanPanceif our science doesnt admit it, but there are facts that point to it... and btw, magnetic reversal does not cause any catastrophic events by itself, it is a sign of crust displacement. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 890739 Finland 03/08/2010 08:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Really? Then present some of your "FACTS." These "FACTS" need to be from credible sources...which means sources OTHER than ZetaTalk. Can you do that? Can you also prove that "Planet X" exists? Quoting: andrew[link to www.vimeo.com] I said credible sources...that video does nothing to support your claims about "pole shifts." Welcome to fail. Again. what is a **credible source**, to you? one that is supported by opinions of other "authoritative" figures? then opinions of Nancy/Zetas should be a credible source to you,since it is supported by so many people, whose opinions are supported by many other people. Good grief, Andrew! You think FACTS are supported by OPINIONS? No. Facts are facts in spite of opinions, facts are facts regardless of how many people believe something or not. Facts are not groundless, but they certainly aren't based on opinions. |
VestanPance User ID: 884100 United Kingdom 03/08/2010 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and btw, magnetic reversal does not cause any catastrophic events by itself, it is a sign of crust displacement. Quoting: andrewBased on what evidence? What are your qualifications to make that assumption? Crustal Displacement was a theory by Hapgood in the 50's. Shame Hapgood wasnt a geologist though. It has since been debunked time and time again. Cheers. ----------------------------- "Shit, if this is gonna be that kind of party, I'm going to stick my dick in the mashed potatoes." "The gene pool is stagnant and I am the minister of chlorine" "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" |
andrew User ID: 909865 Ukraine 03/08/2010 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this video is not even ABOUT ZetaTalk, and it quotes ZT only here and there. Most of it (90%) comes from other sources than ZT Quoting: Circuit BreakerThen what are those other sources? Hapgood Velikovsky Sitchin numerous articles and works by different scientists. this is our science - opinions differ and if you claim that i twist facts to fit my theory, then you should know that at least there are scientists who stand for the same theories. |
andrew User ID: 909865 Ukraine 03/08/2010 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | these rocks move along with the crust, pulled in many different directions in each new pole shift. this is what these rocks show Quoting: Circuit BreakerHow would you know? Are you a geologist? excuse me - are YOU? its not necessary to even be a scientist to come to these conclusions Last Edited by andrew on 03/08/2010 08:55 AM |
VestanPance User ID: 884100 United Kingdom 03/08/2010 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this video is not even ABOUT ZetaTalk, and it quotes ZT only here and there. Most of it (90%) comes from other sources than ZT Quoting: andrewThen what are those other sources? Hapgood Velikovsky Sitchin numerous articles and works by different scientists. this is our science - opinions differ and if you claim that i twist facts to fit my theory, then you should know that at least there are scientists who stand for the same theories. Hapgood was a historian, not a geologist. Sitchin has been proven to be wrong, and made translation errors. Cheers. ----------------------------- "Shit, if this is gonna be that kind of party, I'm going to stick my dick in the mashed potatoes." "The gene pool is stagnant and I am the minister of chlorine" "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" |
VestanPance User ID: 884100 United Kingdom 03/08/2010 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | these rocks move along with the crust, pulled in many different directions in each new pole shift. this is what these rocks show Quoting: andrewHow would you know? Are you a geologist? excuse me - are YOU? its not necessary to even be a scientist to come to these conclusions Guess what, I have a degree in Geoscience. Cheers. ----------------------------- "Shit, if this is gonna be that kind of party, I'm going to stick my dick in the mashed potatoes." "The gene pool is stagnant and I am the minister of chlorine" "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" |
andrew User ID: 909865 Ukraine 03/08/2010 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | then, what do you think is the cause for "Magnetic reversals"? Quoting: VestanPanceNo one really knows for certain. That's why science works...it is able to admit when something is wrong when new data doesn't support the current theory. Zeta science, on the other hand, makes a claim and then twists all evidence to fit it. Exactly which is why my answer was Most probably through chaotic movement of liquid metal at the earths core, which is the theory most reputable scientist believe. However since Andrew doesnt like reputable science he twists everything to fit his High priestess Nancy's agenda. what do i care what "reputable scientists" believe? who they are that i listen to them? do they hold any exclusive knowledge or means to know for sure? they are the same humans as you and i and Nancy. but we, for some odd reason, ascribe to them this supreme judjement ability. |
VestanPance User ID: 884100 United Kingdom 03/08/2010 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | then, what do you think is the cause for "Magnetic reversals"? Quoting: andrewNo one really knows for certain. That's why science works...it is able to admit when something is wrong when new data doesn't support the current theory. Zeta science, on the other hand, makes a claim and then twists all evidence to fit it. Exactly which is why my answer was Most probably through chaotic movement of liquid metal at the earths core, which is the theory most reputable scientist believe. However since Andrew doesnt like reputable science he twists everything to fit his High priestess Nancy's agenda. what do i care what "reputable scientists" believe? who they are that i listen to them? do they hold any exclusive knowledge or means to know for sure? they are the same humans as you and i and Nancy. but we, for some odd reason, ascribe to them this supreme judjement ability. They clearly are more intelligent than yourself. Otherwise you wouldnt pin all your hopes on a debunked Historian, A Sumerian "Expert" who translated ancient writing wrong, and a russian who believed in Catastrophism, all of whom have been debunked. Cheers. ----------------------------- "Shit, if this is gonna be that kind of party, I'm going to stick my dick in the mashed potatoes." "The gene pool is stagnant and I am the minister of chlorine" "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" |
andrew User ID: 909865 Ukraine 03/08/2010 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what is a **credible source**, to you? Quoting: VestanPanceone that is supported by opinions of other "authoritative" figures? then opinions of Nancy/Zetas should be a credible source to you,since it is supported by so many people, whose opinions are supported by many other people. Sorry, but Nancy is not supported by anyone reputable. Credible means to be given and passed a period of peer review, Non of Nancys claims havent even got anywhere near peer review. what an entertainment! what is "reputable", in the first place? - worthy of respect - Having a good reputation; honorable - trustworthy who decides what source is "worthy of respect" or not? based on WHAT? "peer review" - that's exactly it, "reputable" simply means it is supported by other people. it all counts on opinions of other "reputable" people, who are credited by yet other "reputable" people.... |
VestanPance User ID: 884100 United Kingdom 03/08/2010 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what an entertainment! Quoting: andrewwhat is "reputable", in the first place? - worthy of respect - Having a good reputation; honorable - trustworthy who decides what source is "worthy of respect" or not? based on WHAT? "peer review" - that's exactly it, "reputable" simply means it is supported by other people. it all counts on opinions of other "reputable" people, who are credited by yet other "reputable" people.... No, Independently reviewed and work that can be verified by other people. Cheers. ----------------------------- "Shit, if this is gonna be that kind of party, I'm going to stick my dick in the mashed potatoes." "The gene pool is stagnant and I am the minister of chlorine" "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 763624 Singapore 03/08/2010 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Scientific Fact" == "Propaganda" Quoting: Circuit BreakerProve it. :con_id: I am `ASSuming that as usual the zeta `max' (PMSL) got it wrong in fact its probably part of his (many) maths problems... maxipad may have `meant' that "Scientific Fact" = "Propaganda" or then its possibile he meant "Scientific Fact" is't "Propaganda" quite frankly no-one (probably not even Kurt himself knows anymore) knows if he is `kidding' or serious- whenever he posts, the fence shitter has spun his story so many times even Star Treks best`est' can't make heads or tails anymore of what he says... IF by "Scientific Fact" = "Propaganda"- well yes- but easily checked - well by..... well.... almost anyone on or off this planet.... IF on the other hand he meant to say "Scientific Fact" isn't "Propaganda" then he's right again- it isn't... as most propaganda isn't scientific fact and never has been and never will be.... Using the zetawhoowhooooo definition of both Propaganda and Scientific Fact- which makes Melfries babblings interchangable in either case.... ummmm...... /zeta drunken babblings ;-) |
andrew User ID: 909865 Ukraine 03/08/2010 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, but Nancy is not supported by anyone reputable. Quoting: VestanPanceshe doesnt have to be, noone has to be. she is supported by REALITY. does someone who says Earth is round or that sunrise just happened on March 8, 2010 has to be supported by anyone "reputable"? |
andrew User ID: 909865 Ukraine 03/08/2010 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what is a **credible source**, to you? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 909859one that is supported by opinions of other "authoritative" figures? then opinions of Nancy/Zetas should be a credible source to you,since it is supported by so many people, whose opinions are supported by many other people. Which many people ? the ning has not even 1000 members. numbers dont mean anything here. millions can be deluded to believe uttermost nonsense, and yet, does it make it true? no |
VestanPance User ID: 884100 United Kingdom 03/08/2010 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, but Nancy is not supported by anyone reputable. Quoting: andrewshe doesnt have to be, noone has to be. she is supported by REALITY. does someone who says Earth is round or that sunrise just happened on March 8, 2010 has to be supported by anyone "reputable"? Nancy is not supported by reality, shes in a far off land of make believe and your dumbass has been taken along for a ride. as for your second statement, it does help if someone reputable with knowledge on the subject says "yes thats true" because its been independently verified. Cheers. ----------------------------- "Shit, if this is gonna be that kind of party, I'm going to stick my dick in the mashed potatoes." "The gene pool is stagnant and I am the minister of chlorine" "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" |
andrew User ID: 909865 Ukraine 03/08/2010 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | then opinions of Nancy/Zetas should be a credible source to you,since it is supported by so many people, whose opinions are supported by many other people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 890739Good grief, Andrew! You think FACTS are supported by OPINIONS? No. Facts are facts in spite of opinions, facts are facts regardless of how many people believe something or not. Facts are not groundless, but they certainly aren't based on opinions. what we know about the world is a CONSENSUS among people whom we grant that authority - to decide what we consider our world to be. they can be wrong, and they are on number of issues |
VestanPance User ID: 884100 United Kingdom 03/08/2010 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and they are on number of issues Quoting: andrewName those issues then Cheers. ----------------------------- "Shit, if this is gonna be that kind of party, I'm going to stick my dick in the mashed potatoes." "The gene pool is stagnant and I am the minister of chlorine" "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" |
andrew User ID: 909865 Ukraine 03/08/2010 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | these rocks move along with the crust, pulled in many different directions in each new pole shift. this is what these rocks show Quoting: VestanPanceHow would you know? Are you a geologist? excuse me - are YOU? its not necessary to even be a scientist to come to these conclusions Guess what, I have a degree in Geoscience. and? what an argument is that? |
VestanPance User ID: 884100 United Kingdom 03/08/2010 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | these rocks move along with the crust, pulled in many different directions in each new pole shift. this is what these rocks show Quoting: andrewHow would you know? Are you a geologist? excuse me - are YOU? its not necessary to even be a scientist to come to these conclusions Guess what, I have a degree in Geoscience. and? what an argument is that? It means I know a damn sight more about this planet than you do. Cheers. ----------------------------- "Shit, if this is gonna be that kind of party, I'm going to stick my dick in the mashed potatoes." "The gene pool is stagnant and I am the minister of chlorine" "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" |
andrew User ID: 909865 Ukraine 03/08/2010 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what do i care what "reputable scientists" believe? who they are that i listen to them? Quoting: VestanPancedo they hold any exclusive knowledge or means to know for sure? they are the same humans as you and i and Nancy. but we, for some odd reason, ascribe to them this supreme judjement ability. They clearly are more intelligent than yourself. Otherwise you wouldnt pin all your hopes on a debunked Historian, A Sumerian "Expert" who translated ancient writing wrong, and a russian who believed in Catastrophism, all of whom have been debunked. why should i give credence to those who supposedly "debunked" them? |
VestanPance User ID: 884100 United Kingdom 03/08/2010 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what do i care what "reputable scientists" believe? who they are that i listen to them? Quoting: andrewdo they hold any exclusive knowledge or means to know for sure? they are the same humans as you and i and Nancy. but we, for some odd reason, ascribe to them this supreme judjement ability. They clearly are more intelligent than yourself. Otherwise you wouldnt pin all your hopes on a debunked Historian, A Sumerian "Expert" who translated ancient writing wrong, and a russian who believed in Catastrophism, all of whom have been debunked. why should i give credence to those who supposedly "debunked" them? Debunked as in Data proven to be false. You know talking to you is like talking to a brick wall, doesnt matter what FACT your given, you put your fingers in your ears you do need help seriously. Cheers. ----------------------------- "Shit, if this is gonna be that kind of party, I'm going to stick my dick in the mashed potatoes." "The gene pool is stagnant and I am the minister of chlorine" "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" |
andrew User ID: 909865 Ukraine 03/08/2010 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what is "reputable", in the first place? Quoting: VestanPance- worthy of respect - Having a good reputation; honorable - trustworthy who decides what source is "worthy of respect" or not? based on WHAT? "peer review" - that's exactly it, "reputable" simply means it is supported by other people. it all counts on opinions of other "reputable" people, who are credited by yet other "reputable" people.... No, Independently reviewed and work that can be verified by other people. there is a number of reasons these "other people" reject some studies. and first of them is that these finds do not fit with their own worldview |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 763624 Singapore 03/08/2010 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder if luser is still around.. Quoting: taterIs he still supporting nancy? Wow, luser has been an avid supporter of the zetacult for many years now. I wonder if luser will be able to admit that nancy and the zetas are wrong yet? Here's a song i found just for luser,,, it kinda fits. cant utube link but this one fits just as well [link to www.youtube.com] Dennis Leary : I'm An Asshole (Is Luser's real name Dennis??- it would explain a lot...) Im an asshole (hes an asshole) Im an asshole (hes the worlds biggest asshole) Sometimes I park in handicapped spaces While handicapped people make handicapped faces Im an asshole (hes an asshole) Im an asshole (hes a real fucking asshole) Maybe I shouldnt be singing this song Ranting and raving and carrying on Maybe theyre right when they tell me Im wrong NAH!!!!! Im an asshole (hes an asshole) Im an asshole (hes the worlds biggest asshole) |
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VestanPance User ID: 884100 United Kingdom 03/08/2010 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what is "reputable", in the first place? Quoting: andrew- worthy of respect - Having a good reputation; honorable - trustworthy who decides what source is "worthy of respect" or not? based on WHAT? "peer review" - that's exactly it, "reputable" simply means it is supported by other people. it all counts on opinions of other "reputable" people, who are credited by yet other "reputable" people.... No, Independently reviewed and work that can be verified by other people. there is a number of reasons these "other people" reject some studies. and first of them is that these finds do not fit with their own worldview Sorry, but not the case, independently reviewed means by people with no vested interest. That goes the same for people of a certain world view. Cheers. ----------------------------- "Shit, if this is gonna be that kind of party, I'm going to stick my dick in the mashed potatoes." "The gene pool is stagnant and I am the minister of chlorine" "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" |
andrew User ID: 909865 Ukraine 03/08/2010 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guess what, I have a degree in Geoscience. Quoting: VestanPanceand? what an argument is that? It means I know a damn sight more about this planet than you do. do you seriously believe that? :) i would say its not true, if science promotes erroneous beliefs then one who is not "indoctrinated" by it but looking directly at facts and world around them, understand MORE! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 909859 Germany 03/08/2010 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guess what, I have a degree in Geoscience. Quoting: andrewand? what an argument is that? It means I know a damn sight more about this planet than you do. do you seriously believe that? :) i would say its not true, if science promotes erroneous beliefs then one who is not "indoctrinated" by it but looking directly at facts and world around them, understand MORE! Yopu probably believe Nancy that a Trimester has 4 months then ? |