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You're an idiot.

They're nothing else to say.

I'd love to see Kuehn show up somewhere like the anniversary ceremonies at Shanksville talking this crap.

She'd never do that because she'd never leave her basement (metaphorical or actual) and because she knows get her ass handed to her.

And you do?

If there is ANYONE who "don't know science thinking" it's Clare!

Clare has enough trouble just thinking, without complicating that with science.

Note:

All these entries can be by shills. You know of planted entries -- right? You do know?

To test them, we'd have to subpoena the people -- or identities.

Someone want to check out THEIR names on the SSDI?

That's what it would take.

And if any names checked out, see if the actual people matching any of the names knew Wanio ... AND if they did match any real names in the SSDI, ask them if was she the same as the person in the faked photos? (People's ids can be stolen and those people never know that there's an entry for themselves on line. Just as the people in Saudi Arabia didn't know their identities had been stolen until it was made international in claiming them as hijackers -- so they called in the corrections ... 5 of them, I think.)

Besides, Wanio AND Beamer have the same inconsistencies. And other ids with fake photos have no full background.

So ...

moot testimonials (unless all these inconsistencies can be explained). Wanna try?

LOL

And you do?


If there is ANYONE who "don't know science thinking" it's Clare!

Clare has enough trouble just thinking, without complicating that with science.

Wrongo -- thinking about testable items IS science, silly.

Quoting and Bolding didn't post right.


Wrongo -- thinking about testable items IS science, silly.

You are so into winners and losers. Sad.

Anyway, I have been posting a lot and probably missed some comment by you in that whole.

YOU said she didn't understand it even orbits, at one point.

YOU corrected that later and I replied.

She does not understand how that works (that there is rotation and tidal lock, though she knows the latter term but thinks it glues the Moon to one place).

So ... for you, since YOU are confused here on this Nancy issue:

She thinks it orbits but without rotation at any level of explaining the motion (superposition). She also seems not to know it orbits with progression (27.32166 days).

She thinks tidal lock holds it in place over the Earth, or something like that.

She also -- and this was MY point all along which you still don't understand -- doesn't understand that the Moon can rotate at the level of the relative motion forward around the Sun. It re-orients itself to the Earth, at that level of understanding the motions; it thus is turning, rotating as it makes a sine wave. At our level, though -- not just our VIEW but -- if you consider the Sun and Earth fixed in place, the Moon shows no rotation but a revolution of Earth. I mean, not just that the Earth sees it that way, but in our UNDERSTANDING (superposition) of current motion, when eliminating MENTALLY the complications of motion around the Sun, the Moon shows an orbit of us, a revolution, no rotation.

The latter is what's confusing Nancy, and why she thinks tidal lock "makes" the Moon face us "without any revolution".

I win. Satisfied, Menow? Now get off that. It's boring because a) we HAVE been over that, and b) Nancy's intent is to prophesy, not understand all motions. (Yes, prophesy -- pronounced "PRO-feh-sigh" -- is the verb, and prophecy -- pronounced "PRO-feh-see" -- is the noun).

The only reason her understanding of the Moon is or is not important, is to explain why she has to be wrong that the Moon is out of synch, or to correct her on what would happen to the Moon if the Earth were grabbed and torqued by something with a strong magneto-gravitic pull or magnetic push.

So, for the "WIN" I've replied, and I win. Why? Because I don't care to.

At the risk of taking this thread back on topic, have you guys seen the relaunch status of the Zetasquawk page?Hilarious. Looks like the government is getting ready to launch a new campaign against Nancy. ROFLMAO.
[link to www.zetasquawk.com]

Insensitive Bitch. How would you feel if some nutcase wanted to subpoena you to prove whether or not your loved one really died? Those people are dead. Leave their families alone. They have been through enough!

So you're saying because its launch is delayed, it's not a gov't site?

Just want to get your drift here.


And it does seem odd they couldn't put up SOMETHING for us. Does it have to be a whole fancy Zetasquawk site before they put up ANYTHING?

I can't talk about it, Clare. Sworn to secrecy. What's YOUR take on it. ROFLMAO

Stop your griping.

The whole event must be investigated.

Why the fake phoos: cut-paste? And no SSDI?

Don't you know about REAL vs FAKE identities? Don't you know how rutheless on your emotions some people can be?

YOU explain the photos -- all, combined -- passenger list, and SSDI anomalies ...

and the fact that AMONG the photo fake anomalies, only a few have "families" -- with updated "entries".

It's ridiculous for you to assume these people have suffered. Don't assume anything.

Not in an intelligence op.

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The real families are quite clear. They have multiple people around and multiple real photos and are updated all along and the people exist in the SSDI from the beginning.

So, dear Watson, be ruthless in your questions; kind in your manner.

Oh -- cute.

Well, my take on it is it's ... oh, wait! My computer was just beeping off and I can't acc...e..sss.....

ROTFLMAO

The Death Master File (DMF) from the Social Security Administration (SSA) contains over 80 million records of deaths that have been reported to SSA. This file includes the following information on each decedent, if the data are available to the SSA: social security number, name, date of birth, date of death, state or country of residence (prior to Mar 1988), ZIP code of last residence, and ZIP code of lump sum payment. The SSA does not have a death record for all persons; therefore, SSA does not guarantee the veracity of the file. Thus, the absence of a particular person is not proof this person is alive.

[link to www.worldvitalrecords.com]

To Anonymous Coward 908953 and the rest who doubt the fakery:

This is not a woo woo idea further grafted onto normal circumstances and having no evidence.

In fact it's a common practice of intelligence ops (not woo woo idea),
the circumstances are not normal (they are an intelligence op),
and there is strong evidence of identification forgery in the photos -- different kinds -- and SSDI missing identities.

So, we already know the planes were probably faked JUST from absolute proof of video fakery, known by the parallax problems, is certain, and from that we may ask why have parallax compositry for real planes to go in? We become certain of the plane fakery with other evidence (planted lammposts, wrong trajectories, witnesses who saw missiles and so on, Lear's objections, the placements of the holes and debris, and when ...

So there's no more reason not to look at what the evidence says towards this hypothesis about the passengers. Not only that, once you look, you find not only "one possible" forgery, you find 100 or more.

Use your heads, please. Then put your hearts back in -- into the RIGHT place. Help the real victims (including those abroad) to get justice, not the fake ones to support the false operation done on you. There is no evil, only good in what I'm saying; the evil was in what was done to us all.

Yes, of course.

Some people would not be registered or reported.

BUT THOSE OF 9/11????

With fake photos?

:)

So highly improbable it's astronomical.

The point here is there are SO MANY duplicate faces, and so many non-bios and so many BAAD photos with no bios, and so many problematic morph brother-cousins with the same ears, etc. (only cropped), and so forth, and no updates in 9 years for MOST of them ... the ones with the seeming faked photos thus being the most suspicious ...

Then, as with Wanio and Beamer and a few others, they have photo irregularities of a major type AND are not in the SSDI. They DO have lots of acquaintence entries on them on a memorial log and some stories in newspapers, but all of that can be planted. They still have the same problems in the photos AND are not in the SSDI.

This is not ONLY about Wanio, therefore. She and Beamer and a few others make more sense as cover for the mass of others who are ONLY names and photos -- some with a "friend" mention 9 years ago. God, the two execs called "Colaio" who "wore the same t-shirt" and had a friend say they missed them -- 9 years ago? They ran companies with 650 persons, supposedly, and there's NO update from anyone in all those years -- except again a guest book? -- which may have been added since Sept Clues got the screen shot up, because on the screen shot, it was last updated Sept 9, 2003!!!!!!! Now the page is different. Hm ... sniff sniff hound dog.

Plus, for example on other low- or no-bio people: there's one guy with flipped face AND teeth, but one eye is smudged in one photo (the bad copy) which suggests it was the fake to give you an impression of two from one.

It goes on and on and on and on ...

Some may be real but then why so many fake photos?
Really.

Re. the Colaio brothers screen shot: I mentioned no update for 9 years but it was 2003 -- so technically speaking 6 years. [link to septemberclues.info]

Now there are memorial entries and a different page. Niiice.
[link to www.legacy.com]

Champagne for the spooks, anyone? Did they do their job well enough you'll buy them champagne? On the backs of the REAL victims -- of 9/11 and the wars and the current oppression from them?

Champagne? I have a Paypal. Why not send me money. I'll guarantee it'll get to the "Colaio" brothers memorial fund for you ... it's called Spook Partay! They'll enjoy it for the Colaios.

Send an extra buck, and we can add in a flower for Wanio and Beamer and 800 others with no photo updates, no family, and duplicae photos. One buck to help so many false identities? Anybody wanna send a donation?

.........

Or you can GET YOUR HEADS AROUND THIS and hep the real victims' families and real, new victims, which are on-going.

Champagne, anyone?

FDNY black-whites (middle page):

Bocchino and Carroll are so sloppy.

Fletcer and Glascoe not better either.

See the flipped eyes of Thomas Kelly and Robert King?

Prior and Mulligan, bad job: Mulligan's ears are THE SAME flipped on either side of his head; that's the only difference between the two really.

Nose and eyebrows of William Burke and Brian Ahearn?

Allen and Girodano (except Allen's eyelids are smudged shut -- or was it another mug of the same spook?)

[link to septemberclues.info]

So ... ALL victims must be vetted, especially any with low bio history AND/OR fake photos.

Some with low bio history or photo anomalies could turn out to be okay -- if the photo anomalies aren't MAJOR.

Some are though, so:
WHAT family? What boss, University, High School? University's easy to fake: who would remember -- Obama got away with that one. But High School? Was Wanio there, or someone of that name? If so, what happened to her that her photos had to be flip-flopped and same-headed?

What is she, a ghost before she's dead?

A "spook"?

LOL!

Jimmy Sands and Mark Zeplin, too.

Etc.

They took the same face and gave it a different body -- without any change on those ones.

Like most of Wanio, and the 2 of Beamer.

Anyone really looked yet? At all?

Closely?

Exact flips in some?

Etc.?

Anyone GET it?

:)




It's a pyrrhic victory if you do: it's a victory of understanding, and tears for real lies. It's not a victory of having the world okay.

Now we have to MAKE it better. (Lennon, etc. :) said so)

EXACTLY...and you fail at that.

That's hilarious...and sad at the same time because even though it's meant to be a joke, Nancy and her followers actually believe it.

Actually I think most people on GLP and particularly this thread KNOW that it is YOU that is the running joke here for what, years now, Circuit Not-so-Bright. Must really suck to be you, young man!

They'll believe ANYTHING if it can possibly be interpreted in any way that might support their delusion!

That simply doesn't tally with my experience. By far the majority of people on GLP think Nancy is a delusional nut-case. The so-called 'debunkers' have been right every time, and Nancy has never been.

You are either a pathological liar or completely out of touch with reality.

Just an FYI, the boycott of maxipad and luser is still in effect this month.

No, dear. By update I mean give more info or comments than immediately were available on the se innocents: the Colaio brothers had ONE comment from a friend from 2003 to 2009. It was last updated then and with no other info --

NOW the page is different and has a memory log. Somebody added that in SINCE this photo-analysis and bio analysis was done in 2009.

Some "innocents" had no bio all along. Others had lots from the start but repeated faces. And some, like the Colaio brothers characters had only a friend comment last update 2003. How un-REAL-istic.

Keep going, Postman. Deliver the post to where it belongs: the real victims and the spooks who made the false photos and non- or low-quality bios, plus (for Beamer and Wainio) a more complete bio but those same fake photos.



I never thought Zetasquawk was gov't. Someone else said Nancy does. Geez. LOL!

I did ask if the poster thought it was. That's all. Clear now, Dr?