9/11 Pentagon was a sham !!! new vid from CIT puts official story to bed. | |
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onesliceshort User ID: 708513 Spain 06/21/2009 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But CIT cannot explain why the 9/11 perps would bother to lay down a false trail, at the same time flying a big jet nearly at tree level north of the Citgo gas station, thereby risking blowing the official story sky high if enough people had seen it at the time and reported to the media what they had see. What bother? Just remote fly the damn thing into the Pentagon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 696544This may well be true. But it merely creates more problems rather than solves them. God knows what the scumbag perps had in mind but the video evidence shows clearly that the plane made a Northside flyover. But yeah I know what youre saying about why bother. CIT just set out to give us the facts. And they did. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 708513 Spain 06/21/2009 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This video ironically convinces me more than ever that the official story is true! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 696817Where is the evidence of any type of object OTHER than a jet hitting the Pentagon??? Where is the evidence of a missile strike??? I see lots of very convincing eyewitness testimony of a very low-flying plane approaching the Pentagon. But I see NO evidence of any other type of alternative explanation for the subsequent impact (e.g., missile strike, etc.). Surely, if a cruise missile was launched at the Pentagon very nearly simultaneously, someone would have seen that??? And, btw, most importantly: Why bother with the elaborate ruse of a passenger jet impact? (Why would there be a need to use a cruise missile, for example?) Why not simply fly the jet into the Pentagon? It worked perfectly well for the Twin Towers. This "alternative theory" simply makes no sense! I think you must have skipped through the video mate. The evidence in the video clearly shows that the ANGLE needed to knock down the lightposts and subsequently pinpoint the official flight path was way off. It was staged. It does not mention a missile or how they did the damage. That is for another video. Respect to CIT for presenting FACTS not theory. And only GOD knows the method in their madness. Personally speaking, if they had simply flown the jet into the building do you think it would have had the same effect as well placed directional explosives? Dont you think that if they had done this that thw jet may not penetrate the outer wall? 9/11 physics could not be taken a chance on in this case or we may have seen what REALLY happens when an airplane crashes into a building.. |
onesliceshort User ID: 708513 Spain 06/21/2009 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are attempting square one only....it would be a mistake to go too far. This video is properly showing the initial evidence that no plane hit the pentagon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 696817But they did NOT establish that at all in the video! All they established in the video is the most likely flight path of the jet that was observed to be approaching the Pentagon immediately prior to a large explosion and fireball. They did NOT establish that the plane did not hit the Pentagon. They established, and I think a lot of people miss the point here, that the flightpath these witnesses saw was way out of wack with the official path which was pinpointed to within feet because of the lightpoles. If the plane came in from ANY other angle the whole thing HAD to have been staged. The lightpoles, the damage, everything. This makes all other arguments defunct and the tables have now been turned. It´s up to the govt to convince US of how the damage was possible and that a plane did hit. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 708513 Spain 06/21/2009 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmmm… let’s see: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7022761. Cherry pick eyewitnesses who contradict the official account 2. Claim their accounts “prove” there is a Government conspiracy. 3. When an eyewitness claims they’ve seen the airplane hit the Pentagon when they could not have from their vantage point, use this discrepancy as “evidence” that the airplane flew over the Pentagon. 4. ? 5. Profit?? Cherry picked? They found witnesses who had the best view of the incoming plane. Imagine how many people actually did NOT want to talk openly about it too. Lagasse´s testimony is down to one simple fact. Did he see the plane on the right of the Petrol station or to the right? On the left is on the Northside flyover and on the right the official path. It sounds simple but it makes his eyewitness testimony all the more reliable. He saw the starboard (his words) The guys who worked the cemetary gave almost exact same testimony...4 guys with an open view, time to see it and ALL corroborating eachother within a small area of land. Terry Morin, again, said he looked up as it was flying over the annex. If the plane was over the annex, the official path is way off. He could pinpoint the direction of the plane because of simple positioning and could point EXACTLY where he saw it. The video evidence´s intention was to show the plane flew in from the Northside and it did. Hence any damage or witness contradiction to these people is wrong. This was staged. End of story. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57483 United States 06/23/2009 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ground effect begins at the wingspan of the plane above the ground. Think of it as a solid cushion of air, like a speed boat going along on the water. The faster they would go, the more solid it would become and push the plane up, unless they drove the nose into the ground, but there is no way they could have approached and struck a target at that speed and altitude. |
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Cogburn User ID: 621781 United States 06/24/2009 05:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Which calls have been identified as originating from individual cell phones and not from the GTE airphones present on the planes? "While you were hanging yourself On someone else's words, Dying to believe in what you'd heard, I was staring straight into the shining sun." - David Gilmour |
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341923 User ID: 341923 United States 06/24/2009 08:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's called ground effect. Any dumbass pilot who's flown in it knows damnwell that no jumbo jet flew at 400MPH 10 feet off the ground. No way, no how. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57483Ground effect begins at the wingspan of the plane above the ground. Think of it as a solid cushion of air, like a speed boat going along on the water. The faster they would go, the more solid it would become and push the plane up, unless they drove the nose into the ground, but there is no way they could have approached and struck a target at that speed and altitude. Ground effect is also much more pronounced at LOW speeds and negligible at high speeds. Just when you think batshit crazy can't get any crazier Emily goes and ups the ante. |
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CitizenInvestigationTeam User ID: 677764 United States 06/25/2009 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But CIT cannot explain why the 9/11 perps would bother to lay down a false trail, at the same time flying a big jet nearly at tree level north of the Citgo gas station, thereby risking blowing the official story sky high if enough people had seen it at the time and reported to the media what they had see. What bother? Just remote fly the damn thing into the Pentagon. Quoting: onesliceshort 708513This may well be true. But it merely creates more problems rather than solves them. God knows what the scumbag perps had in mind but the video evidence shows clearly that the plane made a Northside flyover. But yeah I know what youre saying about why bother. CIT just set out to give us the facts. And they did. Thank you OneSlice. That is it. That is all we do is present the facts. We simply report what the witnesses tell us. |
CitizenInvestigationTeam User ID: 677764 United States 06/25/2009 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This video ironically convinces me more than ever that the official story is true! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 708513Where is the evidence of any type of object OTHER than a jet hitting the Pentagon??? Where is the evidence of a missile strike??? I see lots of very convincing eyewitness testimony of a very low-flying plane approaching the Pentagon. But I see NO evidence of any other type of alternative explanation for the subsequent impact (e.g., missile strike, etc.). Surely, if a cruise missile was launched at the Pentagon very nearly simultaneously, someone would have seen that??? And, btw, most importantly: Why bother with the elaborate ruse of a passenger jet impact? (Why would there be a need to use a cruise missile, for example?) Why not simply fly the jet into the Pentagon? It worked perfectly well for the Twin Towers. This "alternative theory" simply makes no sense! I think you must have skipped through the video mate. The evidence in the video clearly shows that the ANGLE needed to knock down the lightposts and subsequently pinpoint the official flight path was way off. It was staged. It does not mention a missile or how they did the damage. That is for another video. Respect to CIT for presenting FACTS not theory. And only GOD knows the method in their madness. Personally speaking, if they had simply flown the jet into the building do you think it would have had the same effect as well placed directional explosives? Dont you think that if they had done this that thw jet may not penetrate the outer wall? 9/11 physics could not be taken a chance on in this case or we may have seen what REALLY happens when an airplane crashes into a building.. This is a very astute post. Would they have the same effect if they crashed a jet? No. More than likely not. Especially if they were targeting a specific area looking to destroy specific targets within that section. What didn't "Hani" the "pilot" try and just dive straight down into the top of the pentagon? Why did he instead turn right(instead of left to dive down) do a slow moving spiral without a worry in the world of being shot down or intercepted, to then skim tree top level over and THROUGH very difficult obstacles, that could have, and in the case of the light poles SHOULD HAVE wrecked him before making a susccessful penentration/impact into the side of building-the 1st floor no less. None of it makes sense. |
Cogburn User ID: 621781 United States 06/25/2009 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This video ironically convinces me more than ever that the official story is true! Quoting: CitizenInvestigationTeam 677764Where is the evidence of any type of object OTHER than a jet hitting the Pentagon??? Where is the evidence of a missile strike??? I see lots of very convincing eyewitness testimony of a very low-flying plane approaching the Pentagon. But I see NO evidence of any other type of alternative explanation for the subsequent impact (e.g., missile strike, etc.). Surely, if a cruise missile was launched at the Pentagon very nearly simultaneously, someone would have seen that??? And, btw, most importantly: Why bother with the elaborate ruse of a passenger jet impact? (Why would there be a need to use a cruise missile, for example?) Why not simply fly the jet into the Pentagon? It worked perfectly well for the Twin Towers. This "alternative theory" simply makes no sense! I think you must have skipped through the video mate. The evidence in the video clearly shows that the ANGLE needed to knock down the lightposts and subsequently pinpoint the official flight path was way off. It was staged. It does not mention a missile or how they did the damage. That is for another video. Respect to CIT for presenting FACTS not theory. And only GOD knows the method in their madness. Personally speaking, if they had simply flown the jet into the building do you think it would have had the same effect as well placed directional explosives? Dont you think that if they had done this that thw jet may not penetrate the outer wall? 9/11 physics could not be taken a chance on in this case or we may have seen what REALLY happens when an airplane crashes into a building.. This is a very astute post. Would they have the same effect if they crashed a jet? No. More than likely not. Especially if they were targeting a specific area looking to destroy specific targets within that section. What didn't "Hani" the "pilot" try and just dive straight down into the top of the pentagon? Why did he instead turn right(instead of left to dive down) do a slow moving spiral without a worry in the world of being shot down or intercepted, to then skim tree top level over and THROUGH very difficult obstacles, that could have, and in the case of the light poles SHOULD HAVE wrecked him before making a susccessful penentration/impact into the side of building-the 1st floor no less. None of it makes sense. Got that lightpole info from the VADOT yet? How about the document number of your denied FOIA request for it? "While you were hanging yourself On someone else's words, Dying to believe in what you'd heard, I was staring straight into the shining sun." - David Gilmour |
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CIT User ID: 677764 United States 06/26/2009 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This video ironically convinces me more than ever that the official story is true! Quoting: CogburnWhere is the evidence of any type of object OTHER than a jet hitting the Pentagon??? Where is the evidence of a missile strike??? I see lots of very convincing eyewitness testimony of a very low-flying plane approaching the Pentagon. But I see NO evidence of any other type of alternative explanation for the subsequent impact (e.g., missile strike, etc.). Surely, if a cruise missile was launched at the Pentagon very nearly simultaneously, someone would have seen that??? And, btw, most importantly: Why bother with the elaborate ruse of a passenger jet impact? (Why would there be a need to use a cruise missile, for example?) Why not simply fly the jet into the Pentagon? It worked perfectly well for the Twin Towers. This "alternative theory" simply makes no sense! I think you must have skipped through the video mate. The evidence in the video clearly shows that the ANGLE needed to knock down the lightposts and subsequently pinpoint the official flight path was way off. It was staged. It does not mention a missile or how they did the damage. That is for another video. Respect to CIT for presenting FACTS not theory. And only GOD knows the method in their madness. Personally speaking, if they had simply flown the jet into the building do you think it would have had the same effect as well placed directional explosives? Dont you think that if they had done this that thw jet may not penetrate the outer wall? 9/11 physics could not be taken a chance on in this case or we may have seen what REALLY happens when an airplane crashes into a building.. This is a very astute post. Would they have the same effect if they crashed a jet? No. More than likely not. Especially if they were targeting a specific area looking to destroy specific targets within that section. What didn't "Hani" the "pilot" try and just dive straight down into the top of the pentagon? Why did he instead turn right(instead of left to dive down) do a slow moving spiral without a worry in the world of being shot down or intercepted, to then skim tree top level over and THROUGH very difficult obstacles, that could have, and in the case of the light poles SHOULD HAVE wrecked him before making a susccessful penentration/impact into the side of building-the 1st floor no less. None of it makes sense. Got that lightpole info from the VADOT yet? How about the document number of your denied FOIA request for it? You talk to those witnesses yet and tell them they didn't see what they said they saw? How about a video of you confronting them? No? Really? Why is that? |
Cogburn User ID: 621781 United States 06/26/2009 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Got that lightpole info from the VADOT yet? Quoting: CIT 677764How about the document number of your denied FOIA request for it? You talk to those witnesses yet and tell them they didn't see what they said they saw? How about a video of you confronting them? No? Really? Why is that? Why bother? I'm not looking to destroy people's reputations on the internet for simply being a 9/11 witness as you are. The only person I'm looking to destroy is you and you won't talk to me. I'll take it that you didn't do the proper and complete investigation to prove the light poles were staged and add actual factual support to your story. Besides, you're amateur interview techniques have all but ruined these witnesses for other interviewers. Who wants to run the risk of being labeled an government spy complicit in 9/11 if they don't agree with you or after you twist their statements into whatever you like. LaGasse doesn't remember where he was standing. Trujillo said it hit the building. The light poles were not staged. The world looks much different when you leave mom's basement. Your investigation is fail and so are you, Craigy-poo. Last Edited by Cogburn on 06/26/2009 06:22 PM "While you were hanging yourself On someone else's words, Dying to believe in what you'd heard, I was staring straight into the shining sun." - David Gilmour |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 696544 United Kingdom 06/26/2009 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Got that lightpole info from the VADOT yet? Quoting: CogburnHow about the document number of your denied FOIA request for it? You talk to those witnesses yet and tell them they didn't see what they said they saw? How about a video of you confronting them? No? Really? Why is that? Why bother? I'm not looking to destroy people's reputations on the internet for simply being a 9/11 witness as you are. The only person I'm looking to destroy is you and you won't talk to me. I'll take it that you didn't do the proper and complete investigation to prove the light poles were staged and add actual factual support to your story. Besides, you're amateur interview techniques have all but ruined these witnesses for other interviewers. Who wants to run the risk of being labeled an government spy complicit in 9/11 if they don't agree with you or after you twist their statements into whatever you like. LaGasse doesn't remember where he was standing. What the hell does that matter? He was not standing south of the Citgo. LOL! Trujillo said it hit the building. That's only his opinion. He was too far away to be able to see any plane hit the Pentagon. The light poles were not staged. Nope. They had to have been. The world looks much different when you leave mom's basement. Which is where you must be, pretending you aren't. Your investigation is fail and so are you, Craigy-poo. No. You fail for ignoring the testimony of the Pentagon police officers. That's the centre of the CIT investigation. You cannot refute what they said, so you ignore it. |
Cogburn User ID: 621781 United States 06/26/2009 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Critical thinking requires a bit more than staring at a YouTube video. Try again. "While you were hanging yourself On someone else's words, Dying to believe in what you'd heard, I was staring straight into the shining sun." - David Gilmour |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 711456 United States 06/26/2009 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Critical thinking requires a bit more than staring at a YouTube video. Quoting: CogburnTry again. Hey there Big Cog would you explain to me how the "plane" impacted multiple streetlamp and shed no debris while maintaining course before penetrating over 12 feet of hardened bunker concrete? |