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THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH?
PASTOR/PROPHETESS STEPHANIE R. SMITH
Oct 18, 2004
THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH?
by Pastor/Prophetess Stephanie R Smith 4:47am CST
PRAISE HIM SAINTS!!!
I KNOW THIS ISSUE IS SOLID WITH MOST OF YOU AS A ROCK, BUT WE HAVE MANY YOUNG NEW BELIEVERīS THAT JUST JOINED WITH US AND THEY ASK AND QUESTION US THESE THINGS ... WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BRIDE OF CHRIST AND THE CHURCH? ARE THEY THE SAME OR ARE THEY DIFFERENT AND HOW?
MANY PEOPLE HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST VS THE CHURCH ...
THERE IS SUCH A VAST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BRIDE OF CHRIST AND THOSE IN THE CHURCH!!!
THOSE IN THE CHURCH ARE THE "CALLED OUT ONES" BUT WHETHER THEY WILL ACCEPT THAT CALL OR NOT IS UP TO THEM ... MANY WILL AND MANY WILL NOT!!!
ALL IN THE CHURCH CAN BECOME THE BRIDE OF CHRIST ... IT IS THEIR CHOICE AND DECISION!!!
MANY WHO THINK THAT THEY ARE IN THE BODY OF CHRIST BECAUSE THEY SAID THOSE WORDS OR GO TO CHURCH EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE OR MAKE IT TO CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY HIGH OR GETTING OUT OF BED WITH SUE OR JIM WHO IS NOT THEIR SPOUSE ...
MAYBE THEY ARE A DEACON, OR THEY SERVE ON THE USHER BOARD OR SING IN THE CHOIR WHILE LIVING LIFE LIKE THE DEVIL ...
NO OBEDIENCE TO GOD, NO OBEDIENCE TO HIS WILL, HIS WAYS AND HIS WORD ... NO DECIDING TO LIVE FOR GOD, NO ALLEGIANCE TO GOD ... NO LIVING A GODLY LIFE BEFORE ALL ESPECIALLY NOT THEIR CHILDREN NOR FRIENDS ...
LIVING LIFE ANY KIND OF WAY BEFORE HIM ... THEY LIFT UP HANDS AND HEARTS BEFORE GOD THAT ARE ANYTHING BUT HOLY AND LIVE LIVES THAT ARE ANYTHING BUT ANYTHING BUT HOLY LIVES ... AND WITH THE ONLY EXCEPTION THAT THEY GO TO CHURCH THEIR LIVES ARE JUST LIKE ANY OTHER SINNER OR NONBELIEVER!!!
JESUS SAID HIMSELF, 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity
LUKE 13:24-28 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
BY JESUSī OWN VERY WORDS ... ONLY THOSE WHO DO THE WILL OF GOD, NOT THOSE WHO TALK ABOUT IT, WRITE ABOUT IT, PUBLISH THE WORD OF GOD BUT TO THOSE WHO ACTUALLY DO THE WILL OF GOD WILL ENTER IN!!!
ONLY THOSE WHO DO HIS WORD WILL BE HIS BRIDE!!!
NOW IF YOU ARE NOT LIVING SUCH A LIFE ... IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE BEFORE ITīS TOO LATE, THE GOOD NEWS IS YOU CAN!!! ITīS JUST A DECISION AWAY!!!
BUT YOU DONīT KNOW HOW? GOOD NEWS!!! JUST SURRENDER TO HIM!!! TELL HIM YOU HAVE MADE A MESS OUT OF YOUR LIFE AND YOU NEED HIS HELP!!!
ASK HIM TO COME INTO YOUR LIFE ADMIT THAT YOU THOUGHT YOU HAD IT TOGETHER BUT YOU REALIZE NOW THAT YOU REALLY, REALLY NEED HIS HELP AT LIVING THIS CHRISTIAN LIFE ... JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU NOW WANT TO LIVE YOUR LIFE FOR HIM ... LEARN HIS WORD AND ASK FOR HELP IN DOING SO!!!
DAILY TALK TO GOD AND WAIT FOR HIM TO TALK TO YOU ... BE WITH YOU ... HE WILL NOT FAIL YOU!!!
IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THE GIFT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT GET IT!!! THE TIME WILL COME WHEN YOUU DONīT EVEN KNOW WHAT TO PRAY AND THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL GIVE YOU GROANS AND UTTERANCES YOU KNOW NOT AND THE HOLY SPIRIT HIMSELF WILL HELP YOUR INFIRMITIES AND HE WILL HELP YOU!!!
FOR THE HEAVENLY FATHER IS NOW ANXIOUS FOR ONE OF HIS OWN TO CALL UPON HIM FOR REAL!!!
AND WHEN YOU SEEK HIM REALLY REVERENCE HIM ... SEEK NOT JUST WHAT HE CAN DO FOR YOU ... BUT REALLY REVERENCE WHO HE IS ... LORD, MASTER, SAVIOUR, KING, YOUR AND EVERYBODYīS CREATOR, WHO IS TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR YOUR PRAYER, YOUR CRY AND BECOME YOUR FRIEND!!!
JUST WORSHIP HIM FOR WHO HE IS ... A BROKEN AND CONTRITE HEART HE WILL NOT DESPISE AND HE WILL BEGIN TO KNOW YOU!!!
NOW BACK TO HIS WORD ... WHO WAS HE TALKING TO? .. THE PASTORīS, PREACHERS, TEACHERS, THOSE PROFICIENT IN THE WORD OF GOD!!!
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity!!!
HOW MANY EVERYDAY BELIEVERīS PROPHESY CORRECTLY IN HIS NAME?
HOW MANY EVERYDAY BELIEVERīS CAST OUT DEVILīS? HOW MANY EVERYDAY CASUAL BELIEVERS DO MANY WONDERFUL WORKS?
NOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE OF BENNY HINN OR SOME OTHER WONDERFUL EVANGELIST STATURE NOW I AM NOT AT ALL TALKING ABOT BENNY HINN AND ONLY MENTIONED HIM BECAUSE OF THE SIGNS AND WONDERS AS I BELIEVE THIS MAN TO BE A TRUE WONDERFUL MAN OF GOD ...
BUT I AM TALKING ABOUT MINISTERS WHO HAVE REACHED THIS STATURE ... IF IT IS SO FOR THEM THAT HE KNOW THEM, HOW MUCH MORE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST CLAIMING SALVATION?
HE MUST KNOW US OR HE WILL PROFESS "DEPART FROM ME YOU WORKERS OF INIQUITY I NEVER KNEW YOU!!!
THERE IS A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BRIDE WHO LIVE THEIR EVERY WAKING MOMENT FOR HIM!!!
THEY LIVE THE WORD, EAT, DRINK, HIS WORD!!! THEY ARE DOERS OF THE WORD NOT HEARERS ONLY!!!
THEY HAVE A LIVING VIABLE, GODLY RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM, THEY ARE ATTENTIVE TO WHAT JESUS WANTS, FULL OF THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD, AND LIVE TO DO HIS WORD AND DO IT!!!
THEY ARE LOOKING TO HIS COMING, AND HAVE DIED TO THEMSELVES AND THEIR WANTS, DESIRES, GOALS, DREAMS, HOPES, AMBITIONS THAT THEY HAD FOR THEIR LIVES AND SURRENDERED ALL TO GOD AND WHAT HE WANTS FOR THEIR LIVES!!!
HIS DESIRES FOR THEIR LIVES IS THEIR DESIRE FOR THEIR LIFE!!! THEY ARE THE WALKING DEAD FOR HIM!!! HE KNOWS THEM THEY ARE HIS!!!
THEY ARE HIS BRIDE!!! THEY ENTERED IN AT THE STRAIT GATE ... THEY GLADLY ENDURE WHAT EVER GOD DEEMS NECESSARY FOR THEY KNOW THAT HE WORKS IT OUT FOR THEIR OWN GOOD WHETHER THEY UNDERSTAND IT OR NOT ... THEY TRUST HIM!!! HE IS THEIR GOOD SHEPHARD!!! NOT THEIR WILL BE DONE BUT HIS WILL BE DONE IN THEIR LIVES AND HE LOVES THEM FOR THEY ARE HIS OWN!!!
SOME PEOPLE WOULD SAY IT DOESNīT TAKE ALL OF THAT BUT I BEG TO DIFFER WITH THEM ... IT TAKES ALL THAT YOU HAVE AND MORE!!!
Mt 24:24 -
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
AGAIN LETīS LOOK AT THE PARABLE OF THE TEN VIRGINS OF SCRIPTURE ... Matthew 25: 1 - 46 - Study This Chapter
1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
WE SEE HERE THAT THOSE NOT READY TO GO WERE LEFT BEHIND!!! JESUS DID NOT RETURN FOR THEM!!
WE MUST ...
24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
I DID NOT SAY IT ... JESUS CHRIST SAID IT ... LITTLE CHILDREN ...
LET US WORK WHILE ITīS DAY WHEN NIGHT COMES NO MAN WORKS AND LIKE THE WISE VIRGINS MAY THE MASTER FIND OUR WICKS TRIMMED AND US WITH MORE THAN ENOUGH OIL FOR THE JOURNEY!!!
MAY WE HEAR THE WORDS WELL DONE MY GOOD AND FAITHFUL SERVANT ENTER INTO YOUR BLESSED REST FROM THE MASTER JESUS CHRIST, YESHUA HA MASHIACH!!!
SHALOM!!! |
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Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? Will they be kicking your ignorant butt out too Lester? Probably. |
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? whatīs the deal with these long and boring and capitalized threads? |
Undead (OP)
12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? Would you care to have an honest theological discussion? |
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? Hey Undead. Define "honest" so you can refer back to it. Lester plays fast and loose with the truth. |
Undead (OP)
12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? Honest simply as in "what you personally believe to be true."
In other words, stating your actual opinion, not just spewing what someone else said. |
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? Lester, youīve had a bad batch of kool-aid somewhere along the line. |
Get It Straight! (OP)
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? When we become believers and surrender in faith to Christ, we receive eternal salvation. We become one with Jesus in faith. The bride of Christ is the New Jerusalem! We enter into the New Jerusalem at the marriage supper of the Lamb as a groom with Jesus and fulfill that covenant as set forth by God! |
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? Did you know that church leaders hate it when you ask questions? |
Undead (OP)
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? "We enter into the New Jerusalem at the marriage supper of the Lamb as a groom with Jesus and fulfill that covenant as set forth by God!"
So God wants everyone to marry Jesus?
I thought he was against that sort of thing. |
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? Do you think Jesus is a Top or Bottom kind of guy? |
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? "So God wants everyone to marry Jesus?
I thought he was against that sort of thing.
Do you think Jesus is a Top or Bottom kind of guy?"
Thatīs a question youīll have to ask him yourself when you stand before him on judgement day! |
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? Get It Straight!:
So tell us about your beliefs.
How does the whole afterlife thing work? |
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? "Get It Straight!:
So tell us about your beliefs.
"How does the whole afterlife thing work?"
We are given many clues in the Bible as to what the after life will be like. Believers and non-believers will both have eternal life. It will ultimately become Godīs judgement as to where you will spend that eternal life! The Bible tells us very simply what we must do if we want to spend that life in the presence of God.
We must open the door of our hearts to his knocking and let him in. We must earnestly seek Him and He will reveal His love and wisdom to us. By studying His word we grow stronger in faith and we learn the individual purpose he has for our lives. When we follow His word and His calling to us, He will judge us for our ultimate reward of eternal life in His abode. |
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? Afterlife is death. Itīs that simple.
Death=non-life. Kapish? |
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? there are wise virgins
and foolish virgins
it was their choice which one they were, right? |
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Get It Straight (OP)
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? "Afterlife is death. Itīs that simple.
Death=non-life. Kapish?"
Thatīs fine if you choose that belief.
But what if youīre wrong? |
nolo (OP)
12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? God just added a bunch more levels of reality for us....
Just think...if it only took Him six days to build the universe we see now...
And He says Heīs coming back, but first He has to go away and prepare a place for us...
And itīs been 2000 years, which is a powerful pile of days for Him to be constructing...(cool that it was His job when He was here too, before He started His walkabout...so He knows about construction -- the carpenter thing is only a crude translation of what today we call a general contractor...so a little of all the building trades were involved.)
Hammering and sawing and plastering and planting for at least 6 out of every 7 days for a couple of centuries means a lot of things made...
Even I could get a few projects done in that time...
...And this is God weīre talking about...no worries about going to the store for nails, no building plans to study over, no cost overruns, no sitdown strikes, long lunchbreaks, or miss-measurement...
And now that Heīs had to deal with sticking kitchen drawers, coffee makers that burst into flame, bad gas mileage, etc., etc...(or at least the first century equivilant)...we can expect these things to be sorted out.
Maybe Heīll let me take a spiral galaxy out for a spin around the universe. Beep beep.
Maybe Heīll let me take a new planet and design some neat fjords here and there on it... |
The Foreskin Oracle (OP)
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? How many times has preacher Lester impregnated that naive and foolish ex-virgin Gracie Fhalcy? |
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? why bother lester?
what did he do to you? |
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12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? Lester ...Lester...Lester
You should ALWAYS take the witness of the
bible over the word of any so-called "Prophetess"
The bible is clear that since the day of Pentecost in Acts 2, all believers are placed into the body of Christ by the baptizing of the Holy Spirit. So all believers today are in the body of Christ as Ephesians 4 states.
The bride of Christ speaks of the same people mentioned above. Here are some verses that help clarify :
I Corinthians 12:27 You are the body of Christ speaking of the church and those who have been given spiritual gifts.
Ephesians 4:12 The edifying of the body of Christ is the reason we are equipped to minister ...... one faith, one baptism.
Rev. 21:9 The bride is said to be the Lambs wife.
Ephesians 5:25-28 The discussion of husbands and wives. Jesus sets the example by how he loved the church and gave himself for it. Church must equal wife. |
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? "When we follow His word and His calling to us, He will judge us for our ultimate reward of eternal life in His abode."
So lets see if I have this strait.
If I spend my entire life kissing Godīs ass, then if Iīm really good at it heīll let me spend all of eternity in his house kissing his ass.
It sounds like God is really insecure. |
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12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? undead
what kind of hellish deal has satan given you?
promise of manning the shovel for more coal to keep that fire good and hot? |
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12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? ***kissing Godīs ass***
Got any clue what that entails?
Or do you know what doing the alternative actually is? |
Lester (OP)
12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Get It Straight: This woman has a witness that correlates with what I have posted before. Just being a "Believer" does not make you Born-Again. Becoming a Believer puts you "on" the road that leads to God. When you become Faithful in your love for HIM, you have arrived at the bridge on the road. God is on the other side, but there is a gap at the top of the bridge. This is the Call To Decision; how to get across the gap and give yourself to God. Those who manifest HIS Calling upon their heart, take the Leap Of Faith. They give themselves to HIM wholeheartedly, not knowing what to expect, but knowing that it is what they must do. Godīs Grace enables the Leap. Being convicted of our hearts to take action for HIM is the crux of the matter. There is no need to be a church member or be studied in the Bible; all that matters is getting to the point in your life where you decide. To Come Unto The Father may be done by seeking Jesus in prayer and asking, "Lord, please show me how to Come Unto The Father", or follow the 5 step process below if you pray over this process and God leads you to know it is right: 1) Acknowledge Jesus as God made man, whose death redeemed all men from sin, and that HE IS Victorious over death, 2) Admit your sins, that you are sorry, and ask God to help you sin no more, 3) Claim your share of HIS Grace, Mercy and Salvation, 4) Give your life to The Father; all of it, the good and the bad. Promise HIM that you will always seek HIS Will, and you give up your own unto HIM. Thy Will, not mine, be done, 5) Ask HIM to send the Holy Spirit to you to guide you in thought, word and deed so you may abide with-HIM and receive knowledge of HIS Will for you. If you do this with all possible honesty, sincerity and fealty; HE will accept you and you will feel like a new man or woman. You will know HIM, and you soon will experience that the Holy Spirit is living inside you. Only by being Born-Again do we abide with God in this life by the In-Dwelling of the Holy Spirit. John 3:3, John 14, and 1st John 2 are all witness to the fact that Believers must become Born-Again if they are to know Christ and see the Kingdom of God. Those who object to this message are those who will knock and cry, "Lord, lord, Open unto us!" HE says to them, "Begone, I know you not!" Only those who are Born-Again bear fruit for God. It is time for those whose hearts are feeling HIS Call to make their decision. I hope the post which I took from another site, will bless others who seek HIM with a true heart. |
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? give them hell undead. |
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? Lester: You must be new here, look at whom you are speaking to "Undead" does that sound like he cares. I know as well as you that everyone must have a chance, but you seem like you really care about people as I do. This forum is for up to date news, conspiracies, things not talked about, NOT Jesus or God. Please do not get frustrated, but the people here for the most part donīt care. I have tried myself and you always get the same answer; kill the messenger responce; who are you to judge me; prove it; etc.... Keep following the Great Commision I commend you:) |
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? "undead
what kind of hellish deal has satan given you?"
Itīs sort of a commission deal.
Another 200 souls and Iīll have enough points for the PlayStation. |
Undead (OP)
12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? "***kissing Godīs ass***
Got any clue what that entails?
Or do you know what doing the alternative actually is?"
So youīre saying that God loves me SOOOO freaking much that if I donīt feel like kissing his ass every single day then heīll set me on fire for eternity?
What a swell guy! |
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE BRIDE OF CHRIST OR THE CHURCH? this is a discussion forum
we can discuss the creator if we want to
no poster can tell you what is appriate for free speech |
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