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2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??

 
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2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
Ok I have learned about the Reptilian, and the Draconians control on Earth, but I have read they control also the Astral Realms. can some one tell me More about it?

I do know they can move between the Physical ,and and the Atral Realm.

Thank you

namaste
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Re: 2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
THE HOLY SPIRIT & JESUS CHRIST CONTROLS EVERYTHING
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Re: 2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
TROLL!!!!
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Re: 2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
Because i do know that they used it to get you back in that Realm, in Prisoned. And there the Reptillians are not scared to show them selfs. And TORTURE people there.

Namaste
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Re: 2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
Nobody is in control of it.
The more you are taking care of your etheric body (aura), the more they can use the weakness in this body to affect you on the physical plane because the two of them are tied together.

The more you cure any bad feeling or karma, the less chances they have to be able to awake you.

I had been attacked for instance without knowing this. I felt myself for months so tired that I could sleep night and day and was actually doing it. I had sprouts of bad temper.
Once I had enough of how I was feeling myself and started to meditate to call the angels (you can feel them if you feel around using your subconscious, they talk to you telepathically and can talk in any language they told me). They cleaned my etheric body and I felt myself full of power again.

I think many children that are having ADS (Attention Disorder Syndrome) are probably under attack, more than children having disappeared. And instead of curing it, doctors are giving medicine to give them medicine for them to work in a zombie state, they not having anymore a change to clear karma or heal the world later on.
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Re: 2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
I mean the less you take care of your aura, the more "hole" it has for them to attack you.
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Re: 2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
Supposedly the powers controlling mankind (Illuminate, Reptiles, Orion ,whatever) indeed have the capability to even create a false "tunnel of light" on the Astral planes in order to lure you in there to keep you reincarnating in the matrix of control, as it were. When you die, it might be best to just carefully nose around on the Astral planes and not to jump in to anything you don't know where it takes you. The Astral planes might get purified, I've heard, by the energy (by galactic superwave from the core or energetic region in the galaxy's plane) around 2012 so should you die before that time, it might be wise to just hang around on the Astral planes and await developments.

Remote Viewing reports have it that there are even Astral security perimeters set-up around secret installations for people that try to get a peak from Astral projection trips.

My 2 cts.
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Re: 2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
ohhh i get it. so namaste means bullshit.
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Re: 2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
I am told that the "Astral" realm has been cleared, in preparation for what is about to transpire upon our dimension.......but I can't tell you what that means, cause I don't know! :(
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Re: 2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
Of course, ultimately your Higher Self is in control of the game. It's beyond the grasp of any power that wants to manilulate you. So from that point of view, you need not worry. If your H/S wants to learn/play more in the theatre of subjection and manipulation, it will do so. If you have learned/played enough, you will move on. Nothing can stop you. Freedom/slavery are all just roles we play in the grand theatre of illusionary reality. So enjoy the ride and try not to worry too much about it. Nothing and nobody can touch you, really.
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Re: 2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
But its nice to get all this , because I can see around me where I live how people have become Zombies, you can see them in their Eyes, it Remind me the MOVIE of STarGate SG1,

How some of the people their EYES light up, and a other VOICE talks and take that persosn Bodie OVER.

THESE are DEMONS, see all those MOVIES new every thing.

namaste
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Re: 2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
The Astral Plane is the plane of thought, memory, and psychic energy; it is where gods go when they die or are forgotten (or, most likely, both). It is a barren place with only rare bits of solid matter; some creatures, such as the tyrannous githyanki, use the petrified corpses of dead gods as floating fortresses. The Astral Plane is unique in that it is infinitesimal instead of infinite; there is no space or time here, though both catch up with you when you leave. The souls of the newly dead from the Prime Material Plane pass through here on their way to the afterlife or Outer Planes.

The most common feature of the Astral Plane is the silver cords of travelers using an astral projection spell. These cords are the lifelines that keep travelers of the plane from becoming lost, stretching all the way back to the traveler's point of origin.
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Re: 2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
Well Blake, I have seen only Sufering in this WORLD, I dont understand who Like to LIVE under control of these DEMOns, and Reptilians as their Cattle, to be their FOOD.
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Re: 2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
The Mind(realm) controls the flux of astrals realms
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Re: 2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
the mind of the body (of vertuvian man and its harmonics in theuniverse)
actually
that is a part of the mind of a body, and, as it it partially blocked to the master of its it is in the confusing flux itself ' coused by all the mental impulses from everwhere and not geting the right instrucions
it looks like it has to be traced back home
and the reins to be held to the one who is going to awake
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Re: 2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
The Mind is where this Universe is
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Re: 2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
.....in its dream mode
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Re: 2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
the humans and(in) the human bodies are that part of evolutionarry timing to awaken(naturally) in SELF of the and trough the universal Self
they should be integral in themself
which is not kept as that now
they are volated by the many and all 'above' ones now in the knowledge and theirs own desires to and for change
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Re: 2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
as so unballanced they have much more power and force over human trough harmonics of em flux
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Re: 2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
and.. in any way a wish to do ( the doings are confusion)
reductions are better ( but now it brings also the time-loops and the trys to breach to the awakenings -forcefully
amd.. many other memory-wishfull thinking.. whereever or whoever can... do so)
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Re: 2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
so.. computerized minds bring a kind of stabilisation to it all
but the computer is rulled by some-ones? mind
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Re: 2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
thats my? thimking for now
even i am in now so often done time-loops with main leyer of 1990-2016
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Re: 2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
(( i do not have any spacial senses beyond the 5 human ones))
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((..only ..some awarness ))
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i am under the ruling of the astral-computer?
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Re: 2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
Well Blake, I have seen only Sufering in this WORLD, I dont understand who Like to LIVE under control of these DEMOns, and Reptilians as their Cattle, to be their FOOD.
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Are you your body???? When you wear out clothes don't you give them to a service so others might could get some use out of them???? If you have left your body what difference does it make to you if bugs eat it or a reptillian???? If you look into Egyptian stories of Anubus, you'll find him weighing the heart of someone who died to see if it's light as a feather.If not the heart goes to a alligator god....
If you carry guilt, then they eat it, so they are eatting your guilt....
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Well Blake, I have seen only Sufering in this WORLD, I dont understand who Like to LIVE under control of these DEMOns, and Reptilians as their Cattle, to be their FOOD.
 Quoting: Rwederfoort


My friend, your H/S does not feel or care about pain nor happyness. It only cares about experience. The fact that we do feel that while here in third density may be because our consciousness is expanded greatly the more it is exposed to stress (i.e. the intensity of experiences). We may be part of a grand experiment, the outcome of which will benefit not only mankind but many other species as well, since all is one. And we have elected freely for this experience. It is just because of the veil placed between our incarnation in third density and our H/S that we do not know this. The reason for the veil is the greatly accelerated development of the entity, since of course if you knew what was in store for you, you might take steps to avoid it. And miss the experience and the intent of your incarnation here.

Keep in mind that "others" are really you. Just a variation of yourself to allow for maximum differentation.
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Re: 2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
I know what you mean, because I rea someting about OVERSOUL, and the ONENESs, but its strange to feel disconnected from the source. Especially when you see Good Souls, become EVIL souls, and act so without Respect for the Prime Creator,

If all off us do know our Prime Creator why are we doing wrong thing, and hidding the TRUTH?

Its funny, How people like you to believe that 1 + 1 = 2

But inrealy its ONE,

Funny
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Re: 2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
Ok I have learned about the Reptilian, and the Draconians control on Earth, but I have read they control also the Astral Realms. can some one tell me More about it?

I do know they can move between the Physical ,and and the Atral Realm.

Thank you

namaste
 Quoting: Rwederfoort


They are only in the lower astral realms which have a low vibrational frequency. If they try and bother you, tell them to fuck off and head to higher realms. Don't forget, you also have guides willing to help you. A good target is focus/level 27. There you will find a beautiful park, a library containing every single book that has ever been written (even the "forbidden" ones), and a healing center. Level 27 is, by the way, a higher realm than where you find the places known as heaven, nirvana, happy hunting grounds, and every other "belief system" known to man.
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Re: 2012: The ASTRAL Realm who is control of it??
Supposedly the powers controlling mankind (Illuminate, Reptiles, Orion ,whatever) indeed have the capability to even create a false "tunnel of light" on the Astral planes in order to lure you in there to keep you reincarnating in the matrix of control, as it were. When you die, it might be best to just carefully nose around on the Astral planes and not to jump in to anything you don't know where it takes you. The Astral planes might get purified, I've heard, by the energy (by galactic superwave from the core or energetic region in the galaxy's plane) around 2012 so should you die before that time, it might be wise to just hang around on the Astral planes and await developments.

Remote Viewing reports have it that there are even Astral security perimeters set-up around secret installations for people that try to get a peak from Astral projection trips.

My 2 cts.
 Quoting: Blake


Yes, the "White Light" is a trap. Instead, look for a golden light and keep focused on getting past the "belief system" realms (heaven/hell and so forth) and head for focus/level 27. There are many entities always ready to "rescue" you from the lower realms. But, they can only help if you're ready to accept their help. If you "believe" in heaven or hell, then they are almost unable to get you to venture to higher realms. And yes, the lower realms will be purified and the nasty entities who linger there, will no longer have any power/s.





GLP