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Did JFK chauffeur kill the President?

 
My_Lady Rachel
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Watch the Japruder film carefully, at about 320 or 17 seconds on this film, Jacqueline shoots her husband in the neck.

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No.

Now go away.
"Everybody lies."
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... Jacqueline shoots her husband in the neck.
 Quoting: My_Lady Rachel

Comedy = Tragedy + Time

I guess.
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There are two extremes:

a. conspiracy theories, including the driver, the first lady, the you name him,

b. it happened exactly as presented, and endorsed, by the Warren Commission

Given that neither of these is defensible, what does this forum have to offer as a credible alternative.
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... Jacqueline shoots her husband in the neck.
Comedy = Tragedy + Time

I guess.
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Re: Did JFK chauffeur kill the President?
No.

Now go away.
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Are you a kook too? You obviously have no CLUE!
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... what does this forum have to offer as a credible alternative.
 Quoting: My_Lady Rachel

That wasn't JFK in the car. It was a double.
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The most disturbing piece of evidence is what the agents did just prior to the shooting.

You will note that the agent assigned to run with the president's car is called away (only the right side agent is visible on the film, but eye witnesses report that the agent on the left was called back in a similar fashion).

You will also note that he remonstrates with his superior - he is clearly totally confused by what he is ordered to do.

Then after JFK is shot you will notice Jacqueline clambering over the back of the car. Most will interpret (I believe incorrectly) that she is trying to help the agent behind climb into the car. Watch it again though. I believe she was trying to escape the car - she then pauses when she notices the agent at the back and helps him climb in instead. Could it be because she just watched the driver shoot her husband?

Making a shot from a distance on even a slow moving vehicle is not an easy prospect. Not saying it didn't happen. But the people who engage in this sort of extreme behaviour make sure the job gets done. You can be certain they had someone in a position to ensure Kennedy died if for whatever reason the rifles didn't do their job.

There was a cover up of the secret service actions in those crucial seconds. But I can't remember the details.
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I saw a footage where it was pretty clear that the chauffeur shot JFK. The Zionists gave the order to kill JFK after his comment about the Illuminati.
He was a good man.
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Nope here are the real killers

Convicted Watergate burglar E. Howard Hunt makes deathbed confession
JFK was ordered killed by Vice President Lyndon Baines Johnson.
The murder was carried out by operatives of the CIA, and all the usual suspects.

E. Howard Hunt arranged for this taped confession/expose' to be released following his own death.
The tape implicates George Bush Senior, Richard Nixon, Lyndon Baines Johnson, and a host of lessor criminals.

[link to www.truthaboutax.com]
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No.

Now go away.


Are you a kook too? You obviously have no CLUE!
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Nope, saw the film years ago and it's just a reflection.

Kennedy stole the election from Nixon.

The Mafia fixed the State of Illinois for him.

You might wonder why Illinois? The Kennedy's who started BrandsMart had their first outlet in Chicago, a major mob city. Well that's all beside the point.

After the election Robert Kennedy as Attorney General went after the Mafia.

Kennedy's assassination was a result of betrayal to the Mafia.
"Everybody lies."
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Silly OP. Mick Jagger killed JFK, he admitted it here:(DUH!)

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When after all
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The driver did not shoot him. He does look back but what some think is a gun is a reflection off the head of the guy next to him. The driver's left hand is on the wheel the entire time. You can see this. You can also see his white shirt. Shooting with his right hand would be awkward from that position (and the video claims left hand anyway. Because we can see the driver's white shirt we know he did not shoot with his left hand because his left arm would be crossing over his body, closing his suit coat and making the shirt not visible.

Jackie reportedly was on the trunk of the car because she was picking up pieces of her husband's head/brains.
Just when you think batshit crazy can't get any crazier Emily
goes and ups the ante.
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The driver did not shoot him. He does look back but what some think is a gun is a reflection off the head of the guy next to him. The driver's left hand is on the wheel the entire time. You can see this.
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bsflag

His left arm goes over his right shoulder and its holding a gun. I can clearly see that!!
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Sure you can. Do you see the invisible pink fairies too? It is also clear that the "gun" is exactly where the head of the guy sitting next to the driver is. Your "gun" is a reflection.
Just when you think batshit crazy can't get any crazier Emily
goes and ups the ante.
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Nope here are the real killers

Convicted Watergate burglar E. Howard Hunt makes deathbed confession
JFK was ordered killed by Vice President Lyndon Baines Johnson.
The murder was carried out by operatives of the CIA, and all the usual suspects.

E. Howard Hunt arranged for this taped confession/expose' to be released following his own death.
The tape implicates George Bush Senior, Richard Nixon, Lyndon Baines Johnson, and a host of lessor criminals.

[link to www.truthaboutax.com]
 Quoting: PatrikC325



A story I believe in.
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James Angleton killed Kennedy, under orders from Allen Dulles, the leader of Majestic Twelve at the time. Nixon was not directly involved, but as Vice President he did sanction political assassination operations by Majestic Twelve, and that sanction was later used by Majestic Twelve to justify the assassination of Kennedy. Lyndon Johnson and George Bush, Sr. were not involved.
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The driver did not shoot him. He does look back but what some think is a gun is a reflection off the head of the guy next to him. The driver's left hand is on the wheel the entire time. You can see this. You can also see his white shirt. Shooting with his right hand would be awkward from that position (and the video claims left hand anyway. Because we can see the driver's white shirt we know he did not shoot with his left hand because his left arm would be crossing over his body, closing his suit coat and making the shirt not visible.

Jackie reportedly was on the trunk of the car because she was picking up pieces of her husband's head/brains.
 Quoting: 341923


You see what you want to see, and you hear what you want to hear. All I can say is you've lost your analytical skills, probably to much TV.
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The driver did not shoot him. He does look back but what some think is a gun is a reflection off the head of the guy next to him. The driver's left hand is on the wheel the entire time. You can see this. You can also see his white shirt. Shooting with his right hand would be awkward from that position (and the video claims left hand anyway. Because we can see the driver's white shirt we know he did not shoot with his left hand because his left arm would be crossing over his body, closing his suit coat and making the shirt not visible.

Jackie reportedly was on the trunk of the car because she was picking up pieces of her husband's head/brains.
 Quoting: 341923



yeah I saw that video a while back and fell for it too.

it looks like a gun.

but it is obviously a reflection off of the drivers greasy hair.

anyone who really thinks the driver shot him in front of everyone and got away with it is completely retarded.
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The main thing about JFK is your Zapruder film.

Is it live or is it memorex.

Take a look at the analysis of the film, in depth, before you make any conclusions.
Reality is a conspiracy.
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Would be a helluva shot to pass through that raised partition window that's between him & JFK (and everybody else in the car as well, except the passenger) without breaking it.
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I dont think the driver shot Kennedy. The top of the head of the front passenger appears to look like a gun. If what claims to be a gun in the video, I dont see any recoil from the gun when it goes off. If you've ever shot a hand gun before, you know there is always some recoil, let alone he did it with one hand. Just youtube hand gun and watch somebody fire a pistol. There is always considerable amount of recoil and thats using both hands.
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Everyone knows JFK is alive on a mother ship. Lol
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Of course not.
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Interesting about the secret service leaving their posts, and Jackie's side first. Did you notice that she was staring intently at the park area from her side ?

George Bush Sr. was standing at the right corner at the Dealy Plaza turn.

Remembering this all live, LBJ looked like he knew something more, was too calm when he took the oath. I always wondered what he knew, if he was part of it - or blackmailed.

I remember when I saw it, I wondered to myself why the driver had done it ? I do think Jackie was trying to get away. That was the feeling. I thought it seemed she gave up, gave in, when she realized she was trapped.
I was 12 at the time.
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i miss john john
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Watch the Japruder film carefully, at about 320 or 17 seconds on this film, Jacqueline shoots her husband in the neck.

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 Quoting: My_Lady Rachel

true.my wife pointed this out.Edited is where the car stops and WHat does she hand to the Secret agent? +you know its true,G house shows up
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There are two extremes:

a. conspiracy theories, including the driver, the first lady, the you name him,

b. it happened exactly as presented, and endorsed, by the Warren Commission

Given that neither of these is defensible, what does this forum have to offer as a credible alternative.
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How about links to the other films? Bet ya didn't know they exited,eh





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