do you believe ZetaTalk is true? [express your opinion]

1. No.

2. Because it is so blatantly and obviously a cult group.

3. It means 0 to humanity and to me.

(with the exception of the people being mislead, which is very unfortunate)


(not being a jerk. just answering your questions in honesty here)

great! exactly what i meant to do in this thread!

hang on!

Nancy and most of her very few followers are disgusting lying sick scumbags.

No.
They dont exist.

now now, everyone agreed to stop debunking and giving this poor parasitic lady attention.. I know this is its own thread... but the fact remains.. dont feed the... well. whatever she is :)

I heeded the big 10:4 in the other thread.. oh yes.. the one about the train crash was caused by that wonderful blame everything planet X..

I think we all should keep giving it the silent treatment..
or atleast laugh in silence

AC, i do not intend to support ZetaTalk by this thread. i only want to know actual opinions, here on GLP, without mud smearing or arguing.

No, because nothing they've predicted has come to pass...most notably some "rogue planet" causing a "pole shift" in 2003. I know the she and her followers try to pass off the "white lie" as an explanation. But the "white lie" is pretty much only an excuse. Especially when you look at many comments made by the "Zetas" prior to and after May 2003 that contradicts the need for a "white lie."


It doesn't really mean anything to me. And I doubt it means a whole to humanity considering a very small percentage of Earth's entire population has ever even heard of ZetaTalk.

No attacks, no sarcasm. Just my opinion.

Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 06/25/2009 12:43 PM

OK, thank you!

As I understand it, there may have been legitimate contacts in the beginning, which started the whole thing.

What occurred soon after, however, was that another negative group, or faction, possibly involved with our more negative terrestrial (read black projects) groups took over and deliberately began tainting the information.

I think what happened with Nancy was similar to what happened with Billy Meier, which is that something that started out as legitimate was subverted by other more malevolent groups.

This is David Wilcock’s (and others’) assessment of what occurred here and I believe it makes perfect sense.

Nancy’s enterprise has been undermined as a result, as has Meier’s, so these sources going forward must be held as suspect.

The reality has borne out Wilcock's assertion nicely, so I’ve left Nancy et al to their own devices...

The time for these hijackings is coming to a close, however, no thanks to these (the ones who misguided Nancy et al) folks.

No, it's not true.

Full of lies and hoaxes.

The test of time has proven that.

May 15, 2003

Enough said.

Who could believe Zetatalk when they have a long history of failed predictions? They've been shown the be wrong again and again. The remaining believers follow with a cult like attitude because no one could believe based on what Zetatalk actually says.

sorry op just pointing out for others etc

I guess like others I think there MIGHT and I say MIGHT be an initial contact.. but weather or not it was the zetas aka, 'greys' is another thing entirely, if the greys nancy claims to channel are indeed the very same species of grey that turns up in america and the world alot.. then they certainly seem very different..

almost.... human. with a very plainly human error rate..


these zetas of nancys world seem more interested in a certain side of US politics, ideals or the slightest accident that happens in nancys neck of the woods rather than something of a grand universal scale, as if they are the great wonderful commentators of the world and everything possibly in it.. the whole while telling an aging old woman about a planet that was then lied about apparently.. and if you believe the latest claims.. they're holding the entire bloody thing hostage basicly behind the sun meanwhile not doing a great lot to the gravitational effects of our solar system besides a slight bit of warning and whatever flavour of the month thread people post who havent been outside in months claim to see thats strange about the sky or the sun etc

but thats far too modern day, perhaps past nancys prime.. where she is struggling for notice and to keep above the debunkers etc...

as for pre 2003, I dont know.. theres a great many cults on this earth, some started with much less.. is it possible that nancy actually made this up and those who needed a little extra zing in there life followed suit to feel special.. better than others.. maybe

but its as equilly possible nancy did have contact with something... something of what I dont know.. or simply a delusion and she ran with it.. but whatever it is.. it seems to be these days after 2003 bullshit and other modern day things it seems to be like most religions now..

something great once happened of notice... and never happened again.. and constantly since that time the message has been twisted and distorted, the original founders of the religion grasp onto whatever they can to keep the memory alive.. to keep the experience there.. dispite the original experience just.. not being there anymore

pick your poison,
christianity, islam, scientology, zetatalk..all of which share a common theme and stance

the modern day zetatalk is very twisted in its composition, grasping onto the littlest thing in attempts for vindication meanwhile hideously and outragously attacking anyone who says otherwise.... for nancy and her followers.. it IS a religion..she is somewhat of a god or a prophet..

and yes .. it is ENTIRELY bullshit
if it once wasnt it is now
and if it always was.. nothings changed much

1. You are a Troll.

2. Nancy Lieder is a delusional old woman who seeks attention by claiming her Planet X is killing people every time some tragedy happens in the world.

3. of the 6.5 billion people on this planet only between 4 to 6 people believe in Nancy's delusion.

4. Far more people believe the Earth is flat.

5. The supposed zetas are space faring but can't navigate our night sky and appear to know less about science /maths/physics than your average 12 year old child.


6. The intelligence of Nancy believers is below that of Nancy, this is shown by their inability to use plain common sense.

1. No. For one thing, the "Zetans" constantly fail to predict anything. For another thing, it's pretty obvious that this "advanced race" (i.e., Nancy) has no better understanding of astronomy, physics, chemistry, geology, biology, etc, than your average 8th grader.

I loved the "Planet X is coming and it has a cloud of 20 moons trailing after it like a stampede" that she was promoting in 2003.

2. It means that many people are looking for answers in this information-chaotic world. Sadly, they don't know much about any of the sciences and are willing to believe someone who says she's channeling a "higher race". They'd do better to believe Dr. Mitchio Kaku, Phil Plait, P.Z. Meyers, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Suzette Hayden Elgin, and Penn and Teller.

Yes AND No...

1) 2 weeks after reading ZetaTalk in 1996, I saw a silvery UFO display amazing maneuvers in broad daylight without a cloud in the sky, nearly within throwing distance. Soundless, motionless, then moving unlike any plane or helicopter. Lasted about 10 seconds, then gone. Never anything like that since. Not saying that was "them" but it was definitely an 11 on my weird-shit-o-meter.

2) The arguments about excess heat coming from the Core rather than sunspots, greenhouse gasses, etc, even in 1996, made more sense, even without knowing the cause(s). Now, it can be argued that heat coming from the core could explain a large amount of phenomenon today that can be correlated with seismic, buoy, etc. Granted, humans are not helping matters whatsoever with greenhouse gases. Poleshift or not, WE will kill the planet in 300 years (probably less). Nonetheless, their suggestions about **just the core-induced excess heat** are worth considering.

3) It has been stated, since I've seen in '96, that "they" lie. Therefore, everything must be considered "entertainment value" (as if it wasn't aleady, right?). Just because a nutcase is crazy doesn't mean something muttered isn't absolutely correct. You must filter out the crap, weigh and consider.

4) NASA is obviously involved directly with organizations already known not to be trust-worthy. Just go look up their security protocols and heavy involvement with military, DoE, DoD, etc. They've openly admitted (and thoroughly reported) that if there were a extinction level event they knew (or just suspected of) they wouldn't tell the public. This, of course, doesn't mean there is a planet-x but it certainly means if there were, they're not going to say anything about until YOU can find it.

5) As the years go on, we're completely "in the dark" about an extra mass lurking beyond the solar system yet close enough to be considered in it. The problem now is that NASA data doesn't match up with what we see in space. For example, look at this paper:

[link to www.lpi.usra.edu]

It clearly outlines the issues with Neptune's mass data, large methane bodies in general and etc in laymans terms. Its more of a petition than a paper. Of course, everyone knows of the paper from Kobe University as of late. It seems the search for a large, close-by mass is still ensuing. In relation to large methane masses, Eris is considered a methane mass.

6) The parallelism between Summerian, Egyption and Mayan cultures are uncanny, especially in terms of the winged globe bird/serpent. It is depicted by very large looking humans, sometimes on a throne and etc. The "runways" we've found, say in Peru, are very large. Are they in proportion to a shuttle we would build if we were up to 16ft tall, ready to hoist tons of gold into space? Okay, well, thats really pushing it...

7) Its definitely entertaining! Back in the day when Nancy would do personal requests, it was weird. Personal emails, which I sadly no longer have, literally pulled out ideas in my head! I had come to the conclusion once that photons were related to the rate of release from a source, not telling anyone but there it appeared in an email and then later as one of their articles. She no longer does this but it was definitely unusual and somewhat scary.

8) The fact that it is obviously litered with crap. I don't believe everything on there, its all *entertainment*!! Much like the Da Vinci Code - *just* entertaining...

So I can definitely disprove MOST of the information from the website but there is enough aspects to keep me wondering, researching and questioning.

i believe some parts...

But i believe there is more BS in the bible and all the religions.... and way more people believe that...

truth mixed with ALLOT of bullshit, personally i believe there is something plenetX like out there, maybe im a loon? idk

On the subject of Planet X (Nibiru);

1) There are a number of anomolies in our solar system that indicate something has entered our solar system at a point in our past (either once or a number of times).

2) The theories of Z. Sitchin, based on the Legends of the Sumerians, would also indicate there is more to Earth and Civilizations history than present mainstream knowledge is aware of.

Being inquisitive doesn't make you a loon.

Best advice is to approach these subjects with an open mind and a healthy level of scepticism.


Regards
JD

One needs to be able to recognize higher intelligence.

Otherwise, you'll be stuck in a quagmire of confusion.

The debunkers are at this low level and would like some company.

1: No, because it is so wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong on even simple facts and basic science. It couldnt predict where the exit from a wet paper bag might be found. It is the ravings of a lunatic.

2: Absolutely nothing.

Not!! Because it is 50 percent Lies and Fear. There is obviously something taking place even a fool could see that. As far as aliens of course, one would have to be a fool to think we are the ONLY intelligence upon the earth.

31.000 Scientists and NASA now state unequivocally that global warming is not man-made

back to sleep everyone

No, it isn't true, because nothing Nancy ever predicted happened, and not Nancy or her believers can provide any evidence to support her claims. I don't think it means anything to humanity because as others have said, the vast majority of humanity has never heard of ZetaTalk.

Only 31,000 out of a "vanity" list of 120,000? That's just a tad over 25%.

As for the NASA report, would you care to provide us with a link to the original NASA report?

[link to local-warming.blogspot.com]

This contradicts your claim.
[link to stats.org]
[link to www.eurekalert.org]

No.


Because I'm not an idiot.


Just as gullible as ever. No progress there.


I'm entertained.



One thing that GLP should have taught you is that you shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet.

>>>Seems you're living in the past now

NASA Study Acknowledges Solar Cycle, Not Man, Responsible for Past Warming

[link to www.dailytech.com]

Scientists sign petition denying man-made global warming

[link to www.ask.com]