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14WORDS User ID: 713146 United States 06/27/2009 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unloaded? The preacher is scared of the congregation? I don't get that. "There is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so." -- Nobel Prize-winner James Watson "The war is coming to the streets of America and if you are not keeping and bearing and practicing with your arms then you will be helpless and you will be the victim of evil." - Ted Nugent "Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." -Unknown |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 691982 United States 06/27/2009 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.foxnews.com] Quoting: acolytePastor Welcomes Gun Owners to Bring Their Handguns to Church LOUISVILLE, Ky. — A Louisville pastor is welcoming gun owners into his church's sanctuary Saturday for what he says is a show of support for the right to bear arms. Ken Pagano is asking visitors to bring their unloaded handguns in a holster at a late afternoon event at New Bethel Church in southwest Louisville. Pagano says he got the idea after some members at the Pentecostal church expressed concern over the Obama administration's views on gun control. He says the gathering is meant to promote safe gun ownership. The "Open Carry Celebration" will include a handgun raffle. It has prompted a coalition of peace and church groups to stage a peaceful, gun-free event across town at the same time on Saturday. epic oxymoron |
acolyte (OP) User ID: 308272 South Africa 06/27/2009 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sure they will bring the bullets too I will love the light for it shows me the way, yet I will endure the darkness for it shows me the stars. (Og Mandino) "Credo Quia Absurdum" (I believe it because it's absurd) Links to my forum on GLP are banned so just google "the chani project forum" |
14WORDS User ID: 713146 United States 06/27/2009 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unloaded? Quoting: Evil TwinThe preacher is scared of the congregation? I don't get that. No kidding. It's next to useless if it's not loaded. I disagree. It is beyond useless. On the rare occasion I do go to church, I would estimate that 10% of the men are carrying (between the ones I know do and those who are printing). Seems that the old guys think it's disrespectful, but those close to my age don't see it that way. "There is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so." -- Nobel Prize-winner James Watson "The war is coming to the streets of America and if you are not keeping and bearing and practicing with your arms then you will be helpless and you will be the victim of evil." - Ted Nugent "Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." -Unknown |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 653234 United States 06/27/2009 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's next to useless if it's not loaded. Quoting: Evil TwinIt's a symbol. Does anyone in America realize that their whole government and money and life and country are all symbols? A sword, in its scabbard, is a symbol. The sword in its scabbard, was seized from the Samurai, by men with ropes and hooks, who would group up and en-snag a Samurai, then disarm him after he'd been rope-hooked. Disarming Samurai doesn't matter about sword or scabbard, gun or cartridge. Self defense is the principle, the sword/gun is the symbol. They aren't going to church to shoot, but to symbolize their right to have a weapon which is held in a state of defense. No bullets in the gun, is similar to sword in scabbard, at least from a political standpoint. |
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Evil Twin 06/27/2009 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's next to useless if it's not loaded. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 653234It's a symbol. Does anyone in America realize that their whole government and money and life and country are all symbols? A sword, in its scabbard, is a symbol. The sword in its scabbard, was seized from the Samurai, by men with ropes and hooks, who would group up and en-snag a Samurai, then disarm him after he'd been rope-hooked. Disarming Samurai doesn't matter about sword or scabbard, gun or cartridge. Self defense is the principle, the sword/gun is the symbol. They aren't going to church to shoot, but to symbolize their right to have a weapon which is held in a state of defense. No bullets in the gun, is similar to sword in scabbard, at least from a political standpoint. Well, if I'm carrying a gun, it's loaded, period. Symbols are nice, but I prefer the practicality of a useful tool. |
ShadowDancer User ID: 287857 United States 06/27/2009 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here if you bring it to church it will be loaded and usually allowed... ONE MUST EXERCISE THEIR RIGHT TO KEEP IT. ************************************ fortitudo et spes ************************************ When Japan happened I responded: "The Excrement Has Impacted the Rotary Oscillator." and clearly it has. Thread: The Excrement Is Striking the Rotary Oscillator +++++++++++++++ "Ego et Dominus sumus amici" +++++++++++++++ Ego et mea umbra +++++++++++++++ 'Man does not have the right to develop his own mind. This kind of liberal orientation has great appeal. We must electrically control the brain. Some day armies and generals will be controlled by electric stimulation of the brain.’ - U.S. government mind manipulator, Dr. Jose Delgado, Congressional Record, No. 262E, Vol. 118, 1974 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Realeyesrealizereallies. C. Thread: GIRD uP as GRID Collapses Thread: Eugenics 101 (Page 27) Thread: Frankenfoods for YOU (Page 2) Thread: I Do Not Consent Thread: FOOD Thread: Cern Power___Colder than Space Thread: Hempilation Compilation Contemplation Thread: Harmonics and Healing (Page 35) Thread: Sarah's Nightmare (Page 10) Thread: Destination Maccabees Thread: Let's Play a GAME Thread: Throat Singing |
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malu User ID: 593162 United States 06/27/2009 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i believe a lot of the recruiting/planning for the first revolutionary war happened in churchs we need to carry on that tradition there is going to be a big picnic in traverse city , mi, next weekend , and the theme will also be bring your guns to a picnic "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
LogDog User ID: 583787 United States 06/27/2009 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 712785 United States 06/27/2009 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why don't I just bring a sword to church tomorrow? Or how about some nunchucks? Maybe some sticks of dynamite? Quoting: LogDogI suppose nothing conveys the love of Christ like weapons. Here ya go, you sarcastic punk...maybe you will actually read the preamble!! [link to www.elcivics.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 713224 Ireland 06/27/2009 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But people are idiots and confuse movies with real life and think if people are carrying guns a shooting has to break out. Massacres almost always happen in places where the people are unarmed, not armed. School shootings, for example. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 713224 Ireland 06/27/2009 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why don't I just bring a sword to church tomorrow? Or how about some nunchucks? Maybe some sticks of dynamite? Quoting: LogDogI suppose nothing conveys the love of Christ like weapons. "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." - Jesus Christ People who are anti-gun are usually the same hypocrites who want a heavily-armed government. [link to www.youtube.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 713224 Ireland 06/27/2009 08:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | College Student Shoots, Kills Home Invader wsbtv.com — It's one of those stories that occur every day, yet it gets very little attention from mainstream media. A college student used his own gun to protect his girlfriend from rape and possibly prevent the murder of ten friends. I doubt you'll see this one on CNN. [link to www.wsbtv.com] |
LogDog User ID: 583787 United States 06/27/2009 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here ya go, you sarcastic punk...maybe you will actually read the preamble!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 712785[link to www.elcivics.com] Yes, that's nice, but it's kind of irrelevent to this discussion. Obviously, the point of all this is, "We have the right to do this, so we should." But just because we CAN do something, does that mean we SHOULD do it as much as we can? The whole idea of taking guns to church, just to make a point about doing something to can do seems sort of silly to me. Let's say while your inside your church with your guns, I stand outside your church and burn an American flag. Now, the First Amendent has protected my actions as 'Symbolic speech,' meaning I have a Constitutional right to burn the flag. However, if I did that, I'm guessing the people inside wouldn't like it. So, I'll reiterate: Just because I CAN do something, does that mean I SHOULD? |
Evil Twin 06/27/2009 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here ya go, you sarcastic punk...maybe you will actually read the preamble!! Quoting: LogDog[link to www.elcivics.com] Yes, that's nice, but it's kind of irrelevent to this discussion. Obviously, the point of all this is, "We have the right to do this, so we should." But just because we CAN do something, does that mean we SHOULD do it as much as we can? The whole idea of taking guns to church, just to make a point about doing something to can do seems sort of silly to me. Let's say while your inside your church with your guns, I stand outside your church and burn an American flag. Now, the First Amendent has protected my actions as 'Symbolic speech,' meaning I have a Constitutional right to burn the flag. However, if I did that, I'm guessing the people inside wouldn't like it. So, I'll reiterate: Just because I CAN do something, does that mean I SHOULD? I carry a gun virtually everywhere that it's legal, because I can and I feel I should. I wouldn't shoot you for burning a flag, nor would any gun owner I've met. I'm not a church-goer, but if I was, I'd be wearing a concealed handgun every time I was there, because it is my right and my duty to be prepared to defend myself. |
malu User ID: 593162 United States 06/27/2009 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here ya go, you sarcastic punk...maybe you will actually read the preamble!! Quoting: LogDog[link to www.elcivics.com] Yes, that's nice, but it's kind of irrelevent to this discussion. Obviously, the point of all this is, "We have the right to do this, so we should." But just because we CAN do something, does that mean we SHOULD do it as much as we can? The whole idea of taking guns to church, just to make a point about doing something to can do seems sort of silly to me. Let's say while your inside your church with your guns, I stand outside your church and burn an American flag. Now, the First Amendent has protected my actions as 'Symbolic speech,' meaning I have a Constitutional right to burn the flag. However, if I did that, I'm guessing the people inside wouldn't like it. So, I'll reiterate: Just because I CAN do something, does that mean I SHOULD? you should change your name to Lapdog seriously dude, you are so missing the point "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
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14WORDS User ID: 713806 United States 06/28/2009 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here ya go, you sarcastic punk...maybe you will actually read the preamble!! Quoting: LogDog[link to www.elcivics.com] Yes, that's nice, but it's kind of irrelevent to this discussion. Obviously, the point of all this is, "We have the right to do this, so we should." But just because we CAN do something, does that mean we SHOULD do it as much as we can? The whole idea of taking guns to church, just to make a point about doing something to can do seems sort of silly to me. Let's say while your inside your church with your guns, I stand outside your church and burn an American flag. Now, the First Amendent has protected my actions as 'Symbolic speech,' meaning I have a Constitutional right to burn the flag. However, if I did that, I'm guessing the people inside wouldn't like it. So, I'll reiterate: Just because I CAN do something, does that mean I SHOULD? I must have missed the memo about how everything I do has to A) be liked and accepted by every other man on earth and B) that everything I do has to fall into a random stranger's "should do" catergory. "There is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so." -- Nobel Prize-winner James Watson "The war is coming to the streets of America and if you are not keeping and bearing and practicing with your arms then you will be helpless and you will be the victim of evil." - Ted Nugent "Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." -Unknown |
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Evil Twin 06/28/2009 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unloaded? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 626650The preacher is scared of the congregation? I don't get that. No kidding. It's next to useless if it's not loaded. I can put the clip in my .45 in about a second or so. Unloaded, loaded. Just like that. Meanwhile, I only have to draw and aim and squeeze the trigger. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 626650 Brazil 06/28/2009 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unloaded? Quoting: Evil TwinThe preacher is scared of the congregation? I don't get that. No kidding. It's next to useless if it's not loaded. I can put the clip in my .45 in about a second or so. Unloaded, loaded. Just like that. Meanwhile, I only have to draw and aim and squeeze the trigger. And how many times in your average day do you have to do that. Me, I hardly ever have to shoot anyone. In fact, I can't even remember the last time I had to blow anyone's keecaps off. But maybe you live in a different sorta nieghborhood. |
Evil Twin 06/28/2009 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unloaded? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 626650The preacher is scared of the congregation? I don't get that. No kidding. It's next to useless if it's not loaded. I can put the clip in my .45 in about a second or so. Unloaded, loaded. Just like that. Meanwhile, I only have to draw and aim and squeeze the trigger. And how many times in your average day do you have to do that. Me, I hardly ever have to shoot anyone. In fact, I can't even remember the last time I had to blow anyone's keecaps off. But maybe you live in a different sorta nieghborhood. So far, the average is zero, but I won't be fumbling with a magazine and trying to rack the slide if the need ever presents itself. |