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Anonymous Coward User ID: 707059 Australia 06/27/2009 11:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | US passes million swine flu cases Dr Anne Schuchat of the CDC says swine flu may worsen come autumn US health officials estimate that at least one million Americans have been infected with swine flu since the H1N1 virus emerged nearly three months ago. The number is far higher than cases actually reported to the authorities. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said many cases were mild, although 127 people had died. The CDC based its figures on surveys, rather than laboratory evidence, but the numbers suggest the death rate from swine flu is lower than thought. "We're saying that there have been at least a million cases of the new H1N1 virus so far this year in the United States," said Anne Schuchat of the CDC. "Reported cases are really just the tip of the iceberg." The CDC has based its estimate on mathematical modelling, based on surveys by health officials. If the figures are correct, it is reassuring news, because it indicates that the fatality rate from swine flu is even lower than thought, says BBC medical correspondent Fergus Walsh. However, Dr Schuchat warned that swine flu might exhibit higher infection rates than seasonal flu and could return in a more virulent form in the autumn. [link to news.bbc.co.uk] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 567540 United States 06/28/2009 12:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Avian, I live in a little town in Kentucky. I live by the Ohio river and Indiana is across the river. In a little town with less than 20000 residents, the hospital has 50,000 body bags in its basement, and a large area on top of a nearby hill prepared for mass burials. This is for real. "They" are preparing for us to die. I plan on being out of here by September. Lord willing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 713404carroll county? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 661716 United States 06/28/2009 02:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do they know it's the swine flu? Some places are no longer testing - they are just ASSUMING it's swine flu. Quoting: AvianOver 36,000 people die every year from regular flu. . 36000 where did you hear that crap from the MSM? ever really investigate the real number? its between 1 and 2 thousand a year in the USA according the the American Lung Association Study and statistics...the remaining deaths are all elderly from pneumonia...its misdirection to cause you NOT to be ALARMED dont by the 36k a year meme...its a fucking lie uhhem, from the American Lung Association website: Influenza can be complicated by pneumonia, which is a serious infection or inflammation of the lungs. The air sacs fill with pus and other liquid, blocking oxygen from reaching the bloodstream. If there is too little oxygen in the blood, the body’s cells cannot work properly, which can lead to death. Pneumonia can have over 30 different causes which include various chemicals, bacteria, viruses, mycoplasmasI and other infectious agents such as pneumocystis (fungi). Certain diseases, such as tuberculosis, also can cause pneumonia. Pneumonia also can be caused by the inhalation of food, liquid, gases or dust. The most common cause of community-acquired (compared to hospital-acquired) pneumonia is the pneumococcus bacterium; infection by this bacterium is known as pneumococcal disease.2 The pneumococcal bacterium also causes meningitis, bacteremia, otitis media and sinusitis.3 Want to learn more about the symptoms of pneumonia? Please view the disease listing. Symptoms of pneumonia include fever, wheezing, cough, chills, rapid breathing, chest pains, loss of appetite and malaise, or a general feeling of weakness or ill health. Who gets influenza and pneumonia? People most at risk from these infections and their complications are those whose defenses against disease are not operating well. They include the very young, the very old, those with chronic disease and those whose immune systems have been affected by birth defects, medications (including some drugs used to treat cancer) or AIDS. About 5 percent to 20 percent of the population gets the flu each year.4 In the United States, influenza generally strikes between December and March, although it may appear a little earlier. Along with other respiratory conditions, such as the common cold and acute bronchitis, these disorders are major causes of days lost from work and school. What are the health impacts of influenza and pneumonia? Influenza and pneumonia are major causes of illness and death. In 2005, these conditions ranked as the eighth leading cause of death in the United States and the sixth leading cause in people over 65 years of age.5 In 2004, 59,664 deaths from these diseases were recorded, for a combined death rate of 19.8 per 100,000. Of these, pneumonia caused the majority of deaths (58,564). Close to 90 percent of influenza and pneumonia deaths occurred in persons aged 65 and over.6 According to preliminary data, there were 62,804 deaths due to influenza and pneumonia in 2005, an age-adjusted rate of 20.3 per 100,000.7 Influenza deaths have increased substantially in the last two decades, in part because of the aging population.8 Influenza and its complications are responsible for an average of 226,000 hospitalizations and 36,000 deaths in the United States each year.9 The number of influenza deaths includes associated underlying respiratory and circulatory deaths in order to provide a more specific estimate of the total burden of influenza.10 Influenza and pneumonia are most likely to require hospitalization in those over 65 years of age. Data from 2005 show that persons aged 65 and older accounted for 60 percent of the total number of pneumonia hospital discharges (the diagnosis made upon leaving a hospital stay).11 The number (36,000) and rate (9.8 per 10,000 persons) of influenza discharges were both highest in those 65 years and older.12 Pneumonia can strike anyone at any time of the year. All-cause pneumonia hospital admission rates for children under two years in age in 2004 were 39 percent lower than during 1997 to 1999, a decrease in approximately 41,000 pneumonia admissions for that year. This decrease was due to the release and broad administration of a new pneumonia vaccine in 2000.13 From 2000 to 2004, the average annual influenza hospitalization rate was 0.9 per 1,000 children under five years of age. This age group also was responsible for 95 clinic and 27 emergency department visits per 1,000 children during the 2003-2004 flu season. Despite the usefulness of rapid influenza tests, only 28 percent of hospitalizations and 17 percent of outpatient visits had a discharge diagnosis of influenza among children with laboratory-confirmed influenza. Improving these rates will offer the opportunity for improved infection control, increased use of antiviral therapy, and education about vaccination.14 [link to www.lungusa.org] |
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Avian (OP) User ID: 265661 United States 06/28/2009 04:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Medical Emergency in Buenos Aires Raises Pandemic Concerns Recombinomics Commentary 23:43 June 27, 2009 Some hospitals began to strengthen measures, including the case of Posadas Hospital, one of the largest hospitals in the province of Buenos Aires that concentrates a large number of internees from the flu. Through a press release, the hospital reported that it declared a state of emergency by the Institution that "all staff will be available to the agency needs to be addressed" after the epidemic of influenza A. In addition, the Posadas created through Resolution No. 640/09 an Internal Crisis Committee itself, with the aim of ensuring compliance and monitoring of the actions that the hospital must develop to deal with the situation posed by an outbreak of Influenza A . Meanwhile, health authorities in Buenos Aires and Buenos Aires have some alternatives to strengthen the system, including the use of military hospital in Campo de Mayo, the release of bed in the hospital's intensive care Malvinas Argentinas, the installation of sanitary units in campaign Buenos Aires and mobile primary care close to railway stations and Eleven Constitution. The above translation describes the declaration of a medical emergency in Buenos Aires. The Buenos Aires Ministry of Health website lists 15 confirmed fatalities, 180 confirmed cases, and 559 suspect cases as of Friday (see Buenos Aires map), but media reports suggest the actual number of cases is higher. Recent reports out of Argentina also described the rapid decline of relative young patients (15-50), with descriptions similar to those used to describe dying patients in 1918. In addition, there has been an outbreak of H1N1 at a pig farm northwest of Buenos Aires (see map). The sudden jump in cases and fatalities are cause for concern. In the country the number of confirmed fatal cases rose to 27, but there are reports of 15 more fatalities that are suspect. There have also been reports of travelers from Argentina testing positive at airport checks in multiple countries. These travelers should provide multiple samples for sequencing studies to determine if there have been changes in the virus. Recently PB2 E627K was reported in a traveler from the United States. However, the sequence suggested the change was acquired in China. Although the E627K was present in the original samples and confirmed in the initial clone, and subsequent sub-clone had reverted back to the wild type sequence, raising concerns that some key changes may not be stable under certain culture conditions, and important changes could be lost especially if the virus is cultured in chicken eggs, which could select against important changes associated with adaptation to human hosts. Therefore, analysis by multiple labs of these sequences would be useful. The flu season is just beginning in the southern hemisphere, providing a favorable environment for rapid adaptive changes. The movement of a swine H1N1 into a human host parallels the 1918 pandemic, which also was associated with mild infections in the later spring, followed by a much more virulent and lethal H1N1 in the fall. The rapid developments in Buenos Aires bear close scrutiny and active sequence analysis as H1N1 increases its gene pool transmitting through human hosts. Many countries worldwide, including those in the southern hemisphere are experiencing explosive growth, and the developments in Buenos Aires may signal a new wave of Pandemic H1N1. "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frédéric Bastiat food, water, ammo, weapons, battery back up solar, hand well pump, wood stove and 1 year of food...oh yeah PM's too...good luck |
Selah User ID: 713682 United States 06/28/2009 05:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was reading about the vitamin D conection to this flu, you know people of color create less vitamin D because of the melanin in darker skin. I remember reading on this forum about some thoughts that this flu was designed for darker skin people. maybe that is the connection. |
MagiChristmas User ID: 554973 United States 06/28/2009 06:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From yesterday's Market Ticker: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 683235CDC is now estimating that the novel H1N1 virus will be “Category 2” in severity. They are closely watching the situation in the Southern Hemisphere for validation of this estimate. A category 2 pandemic has the following characteristics: • Case fatality ratio of 0.1 percent to less than 0.5 percent. • Between 90,000 and 450,000 deaths in the U.S. (compared with estimated 36,000 deaths during a typical influenza season). • Excess death rate of between 30 to less than 150 per 100,000 people. • Illness rate of between 20 and 40 percent. • Similar to 1957 pandemic. --------------- So there you have it ~ 90,000 to 450,000 deaths in the fall predicted by the CDC, and it could get worse. Have a nice day. The CDC definition of category 2 matches a draft Degree of Doom table. See upcoming post for more on the Degree of Doom. 1.0 = 1 1.2 = 4 1.4 = 16 1.6 = 64 1.8 = 256. OKC Mem Bombing 2.0 = 1,000 2.2 = 4,000. 9-11 terrorist 2.4 = 16,000. WTC attack 2.6 = 64,000 2.8 = 256,000 Tsunami 3.0 = 1,000,000 3.2 = 4,000,000. Holocost, Hirosima 3.4 = 16,000,000 WWIII 3.6 = 64,000,000 3.8 = 256,000,000 4.0 = 1,000,000,000 4.2 = 4,000,000,000. Planetary 4.4 = 16,000,000,000. Anialation |
{ARCHER} User ID: 599924 United States 06/28/2009 07:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All my friends think that it's over. They say, How come we don't hear anymore about the flu? They say, it's not bad. If you get it its like getting any other flu and you're over it in a couple of days. That say, most people won't even know they have it. All I know is that the MSM have been ordered to keep quiet about it because they don't want panic or people to stop shopping and moving around. The calm before the storm. |
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Avian (OP) User ID: 265661 United States 06/28/2009 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All my friends think that it's over. They say, How come we don't hear anymore about the flu? They say, it's not bad. If you get it its like getting any other flu and you're over it in a couple of days. That say, most people won't even know they have it. Quoting: {ARCHER}All I know is that the MSM have been ordered to keep quiet about it because they don't want panic or people to stop shopping and moving around. The calm before the storm. thanks for the input...most people I know think the same way regardless of the warnings...the msm is too quiet about it for economic reasons "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frédéric Bastiat food, water, ammo, weapons, battery back up solar, hand well pump, wood stove and 1 year of food...oh yeah PM's too...good luck |
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Avian (OP) User ID: 265661 United States 06/28/2009 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Argentina will enter into emergency 28/Jun/09 The health authorities confirmed yesterday that Argentina would soon declare a health emergency in that country due to the advance of influenza A, which so far caused 26 deaths and 587 thousand people infected. Stated that the number of infections is higher than the official and the hospitals are on the verge of collapse, are also studied 967 other samples of persons suspected of having contracted the H1N1 influenza. Meanwhile, in Bolivia 17 new confirmed cases of influenza A, bringing the number of affected rises to 76. In Brazil there were 69 other cases, bringing to 591 the total. Also confirmed six new cases of influenza A in Colombia, making a total of 79, including two deaths. In Uruguay, a woman of 22 years with three months of pregnancy, became the first serious case of that country. [link to www.ojo.com.pe] "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frédéric Bastiat food, water, ammo, weapons, battery back up solar, hand well pump, wood stove and 1 year of food...oh yeah PM's too...good luck |
Avian (OP) User ID: 265661 United States 06/28/2009 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | bump for awareness "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frédéric Bastiat food, water, ammo, weapons, battery back up solar, hand well pump, wood stove and 1 year of food...oh yeah PM's too...good luck |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 276706 United Kingdom 06/28/2009 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Try as i might, i am not able to find any update on Mexican swine flu. Its as if the whole thing has gone away. How is this possible? Mexico was the core of swine flu. If anything the whole country should be 100% filled with swine flu (considering it is spreading to the whole world). So how is it possible that Mexico does not have a problem anymore? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 350269 United States 06/28/2009 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Avian, you are helping them spread their fear campaign and therefore their toxic untested vaccine. You should be ashamed of yourself. DON'T FEED THE HYPE! [link to www.dailymotion.com] Mike Wallace exposes the fact that the CDC and WHO will LIE their butts off! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 567074 United States 06/28/2009 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Avian, you are helping them spread their fear campaign and therefore their toxic untested vaccine. You should be ashamed of yourself. DON'T FEED THE HYPE! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 350269[link to www.dailymotion.com] Mike Wallace exposes the fact that the CDC and WHO will LIE their butts off! I don't see 'hype' being laid out here. These are FACTS about the spread of a novel virus with lethal potential. No other hype here... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 713893 United States 06/28/2009 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does anyone know the beginning timeline for this thing, earlier than the first reports in May? I was traveling through the mid plains states where I caught a walloping flu of some sort, worse than I've ever had in my 50 years of living in December 2008. I stayed in Colorado to get over the biggest of the hump of the illness, then on to Arizona to fully recover in early January. Did I get a precursor or just a bad flu? I can't seem to find any early information on the origins of this thing. Seems like one might be better off getting an earlier and less deadly version of this "flu" and have some immunity to the next round that I fear is coming. Anyone that has studied the 1918 epidemic of the Spanish Flu will be rightly concerned. I read the book Flu by Gina Kolata about 7 years ago and thought some of the descriptions fantastical , probably prompted from faulty memory, pulp reporting or mass hysteria of the time but given the current descriptions of some of the quick deaths I'm altering my views. This thing could get very ugly. |
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Daylight Again User ID: 462362 United States 06/28/2009 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At the present time, Wisconsin has some of the highest confirmed cases of H1N1-almost 3500. However, at this time, Lake Geneva has been unaffected. We're only about 35 miles southwest of Milwaukee. If you check out the maps, Milwaukee has been hit hard. Many people from our area travel to Milwaukee for work, shopping etc. It seems unusual that Lake Geneva wouldn't be affected by the swine flu. Maybe, our town experienced the outbreak in December? By the way, my husband and I never contracted the December flu. We take Vitamin D3 2000IU and Vitamin C 1000MG daily. Just some info and thoughts. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 713850 Canada 06/28/2009 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh for FUCKS SAKE, will you 'how many people have died compared to regular flu' people fuck off... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 706208We know, not a whole lot of deaths so far. But this thread is clearly about the *potential* for a pandemic. Might happen, might not, but there are ample signs that the potential is there. Is that so hard for you to understand? Oh wait, it probably is. Sorry, here, have a lollipop. thank you bro....I feel these people are severely uneducated, ignorant, or just plain mentally retarded they just can't grasp the idea that a flu mutates...every time I try to talk about this, there's always the same coward who plugs the 36k meme.. maybe it's a good way to cull the herd of dummies |
Nightshade User ID: 599165 United Kingdom 06/28/2009 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can people who are still erroneously quoting "seasonal flu deaths blah blah blah" be lined up against a wall and shot? How can people remain so ill-informed and easily manipulated by the media and TPTB? Firstly, seasonal flu is clinically diagnosed, so have flu-like symptoms. Lab tests are not carried out. Secondly, the pneumonia that kills people in seasonal flu is, in the main, bacterial. This is very different from what we are seeing here and is a secondary infection caused by a weakened immune system. In H1N1 it is viral i.e. it is part of the virus itself. Anyone who underplays the dangers of this virus are messing with peoples lives. The second wave will be more lethal, more people will catch it because it has been allowed to spread widely and this is key in any mutation. Hospitals will be overwhelmed so people who may be surviving now due to prompt hospital admission would be dying if they got it in a few months time. I don't care if people panic and leap around in horror, just so long as they make their own preparations for dealing with it and don't rely on a benevolent govt to do it for them. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 423573 United States 06/28/2009 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Argentina Declares State of Emergency Quoting: Avian28/Jun/09 The health authorities confirmed yesterday that Argentina would declare a health emergency in that country due to the advance of influenza A, which so far caused 26 deaths and 587 thousand people infected. Stated that the number of infections is higher than the official and the hospitals are on the verge of collapse, are also studied 967 other samples of persons suspected of having contracted the H1N1 influenza. Meanwhile, in Bolivia 17 new confirmed cases of influenza A, bringing the number of affected rises to 76. In Brazil there were 69 other cases, bringing to 591 the total. Also confirmed six new cases of influenza A in Colombia, making a total of 79, including two deaths. In Uruguay, a woman of 22 years with three months of pregnancy, became the first serious case of that country. [link to www.ojo.com.pe] These numbers are so low. I get it but this is not an epidemic. Soaring Death Rate in Buenos Aires Raises Pandemic Concerns Recombinomics Commentary 18:03 June 27, 2009 "We're seeing the placement of young patients, between 15 and 50 years with pneumonia, some rapidly evolving towards a gravity which for many is unusual, in which the lung is' fire 'in a matter of hours," said Dr. Jorge San Juan, head of the Department of Intensive Care Hospital Muñiz. This has led to patients with these characteristics begin to be treated in an increasingly aggressive. THE NATION As reported yesterday, doctors from the Ministry of Health received the directive to take, from now on, all cases of influenza and potential influenza A (H1N1), with the recommendation to perform chest radiographs for patients with symptoms of fever and fatigue and internal quickly to all suffering from pneumonia. "The bodies were viscera, meninges and brain swollen, a little common factor in death from influenza. Additionally, the lungs were in bad shape, with some spots we could not identify. The studies sent pathology, "said the coroner who asked not to publicize his name until the health authorities take note of it found. The above translation describes patients in and around Buenos Aires (see updated map). In the past few days 26 confirmed fatalities have been reported as well as 15 additional probable fatalities. H1N1 infections of swine on a nearby farm (see map) has also been described in an OIE report. The targeted population, as well as the description of the rapid deterioration sounds remarkable like reports on the 1918 pandemic. Sequence data on these patients and swine would be useful. It is the beginning of flu season in Argentina, and the potential for the evolution of a more virulent Pandemic H1N1 looms large. |