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wtf is this shit??


Bureaucrats Will Carry Out Mandatory Home Inspections Under Climate Bill
Government vampires ready and waiting to sink their teeth into the fat hog American taxpayer once more

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Thursday, July 2, 2009

The controversial climate bill that is set to be taken up by the Senate on Monday after its passage in the House will legislate home inspections by government regulators who will demand to audit every aspect of your property under the threat of substantial and repeated fines if their visits are denied or their demands not satisfied.

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Bureaucrats Will Carry Out Mandatory Home Inspections Under Climate Bill

Government vampires ready and waiting to sink their teeth into the fat hog American taxpayer once more

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Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Thursday, July 2, 2009

The controversial climate bill that is set to be taken up by the Senate on Monday after its passage in the House will legislate home inspections by government regulators who will demand to audit every aspect of your property under the threat of substantial and repeated fines if their visits are denied or their demands not satisfied.

The climate legislation is written in a manner that automatically assumes that global warming is taking place and that it is attributed to rising CO2 levels, despite the fact that this is a highly contentious question and is being rejected by more and more scientists as time goes by.

As Tony Pacheco writes in his excellent article today, the bill will “audit every aspect of your home and life”.

The bill states every home owner will receive an energy audit. What is a home energy audit? It is an intrusive visit made by the bureaucrats at the Home Energy Team or a similar group. They will examine and report the way you live your life directly to RESNET (Residential Energy Services Network) . Light fixtures, socket types, spas, hot tubs, windows, appliances, walls and roofs will all be under review. Energy tests will be conducted throughout your house. At the end of the visit you will receive a report and a rating. The report will focus on the changes you need to make and the rating is called a HERS rating (Home Energy Rating System). RESNET will perform the audits through authorized contractors. RESNET has adopted the Mortgage Industry National Home Energy Rating Standards. The standards set the national procedures for home energy ratings.

According to RESNET, an audit consists of:
Comprehensive Home Energy Audit - A level of the RESNET Home Energy Audit process defined by this standard to include the evaluation, diagnosis and proposed treatment of an existing home. The Comprehensive Home Energy Audit may be based on a Home Performance Assessment (“Comprehensive Home Performance Energy Audit”) or Home Energy Rating (“Comprehensive HERS Audit”), in accordance with the criteria established by this Standard. A homeowner may elect to go through this process with or without a prior Home Energy Survey or Diagnostic Home Energy Survey.

Regulations already in place in some cities for non-residential buildings already carry fines of $2000 a time for preventing bureaucrats from carrying out inspections. These will simply be expanded to cover all premises under the new climate bill.

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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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gr8 timing now that frankenweener is final. i see it passing the senate, obama/gore and all the greenies stand to make gozillions $$ on these new regulations and they will do whatever it takes to get it passed.
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political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

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when a country is greatly disoriented —as it is currently in America with regards to polarization on many issues— that it’s easy for the Government —and other powers that be— to manipulate the public with lies and deceit. This is not a new strategy, but one that has been implemented in this country —as well as others— for centuries. It’s specifically designed to control the masses by generating and perpetuating confusion. in the past the truth about certain national incidents were not found out and revealed to the public for years. Now, thanks to the internet, it takes only a few months to discover the policies and activities of our Government and mega-corporate empires —that are criminal to say the least.

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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be (secure)]

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I am thinking it is almost bug out time!
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found this pretty amusing.
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I am thinking it is almost bug out time!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 709239

with their GPS/census they'll know every nook & fuckin cranny of every foothill.
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Every closed eye is not sleeping, and every open eye is not seeing
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
when a country is greatly disoriented —as it is currently in America with regards to polarization on many issues— that it’s easy for the Government —and other powers that be— to manipulate the public with lies and deceit. This is not a new strategy, but one that has been implemented in this country —as well as others— for centuries. It’s specifically designed to control the masses by generating and perpetuating confusion. in the past the truth about certain national incidents were not found out and revealed to the public for years. Now, thanks to the internet, it takes only a few months to discover the policies and activities of our Government and mega-corporate empires —that are criminal to say the least.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dear Progressives, Feelings aren't facts. Perception is not reality. We are not responsible for your inability to comprehend the difference.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Visit The Official GLP Store
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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be (secure)]

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But look on the bright side.

Obama will have to hire 10,000,000 munchkins to go around inspecting everyone's houses, and another 20,000,000 munchkins to act as bodyguards, so those krazy right wing extremists don't blow their heads off with 12 gauge shotguns when they demand to be let in to their homes make sure they have the right light bulbs in their night lites.

30,000,000 new green jobs created!
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But look on the bright side.

Obama will have to hire 10,000,000 munchkins to go around inspecting everyone's houses, and another 20,000,000 munchkins to act as bodyguards, so those krazy right wing extremists don't blow their heads off with 12 gauge shotguns when they demand to be let in to their homes make sure they have the right light bulbs in their night lites.

30,000,000 new green jobs created!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 716403

yanno i think i had or someone else had a post on him saying he would create a million? green jobs but no titles were provided. bingo you may have something here.
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*Dont fuck with me; ill jump on my menstrual cycle & run your ass over ;)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Every closed eye is not sleeping, and every open eye is not seeing
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
when a country is greatly disoriented —as it is currently in America with regards to polarization on many issues— that it’s easy for the Government —and other powers that be— to manipulate the public with lies and deceit. This is not a new strategy, but one that has been implemented in this country —as well as others— for centuries. It’s specifically designed to control the masses by generating and perpetuating confusion. in the past the truth about certain national incidents were not found out and revealed to the public for years. Now, thanks to the internet, it takes only a few months to discover the policies and activities of our Government and mega-corporate empires —that are criminal to say the least.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dear Progressives, Feelings aren't facts. Perception is not reality. We are not responsible for your inability to comprehend the difference.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Visit The Official GLP Store
[link to www.cafepress.com]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FREEDOM OF SPEECH:
Alan Isaacman
The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be (secure)]

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found this pretty amusing.
 Quoting: jnchisox1

crap/traitor fucked this country.
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*Dont fuck with me; ill jump on my menstrual cycle & run your ass over ;)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Every closed eye is not sleeping, and every open eye is not seeing
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
when a country is greatly disoriented —as it is currently in America with regards to polarization on many issues— that it’s easy for the Government —and other powers that be— to manipulate the public with lies and deceit. This is not a new strategy, but one that has been implemented in this country —as well as others— for centuries. It’s specifically designed to control the masses by generating and perpetuating confusion. in the past the truth about certain national incidents were not found out and revealed to the public for years. Now, thanks to the internet, it takes only a few months to discover the policies and activities of our Government and mega-corporate empires —that are criminal to say the least.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dear Progressives, Feelings aren't facts. Perception is not reality. We are not responsible for your inability to comprehend the difference.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Visit The Official GLP Store
[link to www.cafepress.com]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FREEDOM OF SPEECH:
Alan Isaacman
The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be (secure)]

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Have already written my 2 Senators informing them that a yes vote on this bill will mean a no vote to their re-election.

Have you done that? If not, it is definitely time to do it TODAY! before they shut down for the holiday weekend. None of them work on Fridays as it is.
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i am all for energy audits...home business or otherwise...but not mandatory...

should only be voluntary and if you decide to make the changes recommended by the audit and you get a rebate in doing so or a tax break...then ok

otherwise STAY THE FUCK OFF MY PROPERTY BIATCHES
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food, water, ammo, weapons, battery back up solar, hand well pump, wood stove and 1 year of food...oh yeah PM's too...good luck
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Have already written my 2 Senators informing them that a yes vote on this bill will mean a no vote to their re-election.

Have you done that? If not, it is definitely time to do it TODAY! before they shut down for the holiday weekend. None of them work on Fridays as it is.
 Quoting: anonanon

oh i faxed i wrote and i called. lotta good its gonna do. theyre not listening.
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*Dont fuck with me; ill jump on my menstrual cycle & run your ass over ;)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Every closed eye is not sleeping, and every open eye is not seeing
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
when a country is greatly disoriented —as it is currently in America with regards to polarization on many issues— that it’s easy for the Government —and other powers that be— to manipulate the public with lies and deceit. This is not a new strategy, but one that has been implemented in this country —as well as others— for centuries. It’s specifically designed to control the masses by generating and perpetuating confusion. in the past the truth about certain national incidents were not found out and revealed to the public for years. Now, thanks to the internet, it takes only a few months to discover the policies and activities of our Government and mega-corporate empires —that are criminal to say the least.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dear Progressives, Feelings aren't facts. Perception is not reality. We are not responsible for your inability to comprehend the difference.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Visit The Official GLP Store
[link to www.cafepress.com]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FREEDOM OF SPEECH:
Alan Isaacman
The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be (secure)]

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i am all for energy audits...home business or otherwise...but not mandatory...

should only be voluntary and if you decide to make the changes recommended by the audit and you get a rebate in doing so or a tax break...then ok

otherwise STAY THE FUCK OFF MY PROPERTY BIATCHES
 Quoting: Avian

what about the thread that you cant sell your home unless it passes these bullshit regs?? it was on here yesterday i dont recall the thread title - i shouldve saved it but didnt. if someone finds that thread post it here plz.
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*Dont fuck with me; ill jump on my menstrual cycle & run your ass over ;)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Every closed eye is not sleeping, and every open eye is not seeing
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
when a country is greatly disoriented —as it is currently in America with regards to polarization on many issues— that it’s easy for the Government —and other powers that be— to manipulate the public with lies and deceit. This is not a new strategy, but one that has been implemented in this country —as well as others— for centuries. It’s specifically designed to control the masses by generating and perpetuating confusion. in the past the truth about certain national incidents were not found out and revealed to the public for years. Now, thanks to the internet, it takes only a few months to discover the policies and activities of our Government and mega-corporate empires —that are criminal to say the least.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dear Progressives, Feelings aren't facts. Perception is not reality. We are not responsible for your inability to comprehend the difference.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Visit The Official GLP Store
[link to www.cafepress.com]

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FREEDOM OF SPEECH:
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Anyone know the bill # for cap & trade in the Senate?
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HR2454... or HR2998.

And they really a are a bunch of scumbags...


There's July 4... then as soon as they come back... VOTE on the cap and trade bill... while people are still drunk from July 4.

Disgusting.
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Seriously, how many americans will still be drunk on July 6 while this travesty will end america? A shitload.


This is how it's gonna be... the legislature will kill the country while the country is busy being drunk...


THIS RING A BELL... Remember the FED act in 1913? Passed during CHRISTMAS.
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So I take it this bill is why they GPSd every house in the nation so they know exact where everyone lives.

As Obama stated, this will create a bunch of "green jobs"

The problem is, if someone says there coming in my house, and I say no, then they aint coming in my house. End of story

Vote for pin!! This bill is total bullshit to the 10th degree.
Good find as always Phen
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The problem is, if someone says there coming in my house, and I say no, then they aint coming in my house. End of story


AND YOU HAVE A 2000$ fine...for the FIRST OFFENCE.
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Well crap have a doggy door although it is a heavier version double flap. My dogs aren't gonna like this one bit. Stay out of my bedroom but sure that will be then next inspection.
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So I take it this bill is why they GPSd every house in the nation so they know exact where everyone lives.

As Obama stated, this will create a bunch of "green jobs"

The problem is, if someone says there coming in my house, and I say no, then they aint coming in my house. End of story

Vote for pin!! This bill is total bullshit to the 10th degree.
Good find as always Phen
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this violates the fourth, fifth and ninth amendment all at once
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Paranoid Delusions

They once again don't have the money or the resources for this crap.

O.P. you fail
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But look on the bright side.

Obama will have to hire 10,000,000 munchkins to go around inspecting everyone's houses, and another 20,000,000 munchkins to act as bodyguards, so those krazy right wing extremists don't blow their heads off with 12 gauge shotguns when they demand to be let in to their homes make sure they have the right light bulbs in their night lites.

30,000,000 new green jobs created!
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yup, this will be false economy 2.0 at work.
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As Obama stated, this will create a bunch of "green jobs"

Vote for pin!! This bill is total bullshit to the 10th degree.

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GreenShirt thugs.
oh my.
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Paranoid Delusions

They once again don't have the money or the resources for this crap.

O.P. you fail
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we shall see wont we? keep on truckin billy hack.
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Anyone know the bill # for cap & trade in the Senate?
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when a country is greatly disoriented —as it is currently in America with regards to polarization on many issues— that it’s easy for the Government —and other powers that be— to manipulate the public with lies and deceit. This is not a new strategy, but one that has been implemented in this country —as well as others— for centuries. It’s specifically designed to control the masses by generating and perpetuating confusion. in the past the truth about certain national incidents were not found out and revealed to the public for years. Now, thanks to the internet, it takes only a few months to discover the policies and activities of our Government and mega-corporate empires —that are criminal to say the least.

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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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So they, by law, come to my house, look in every room, closet and attic. They discover that I have all the government approved light bulbs, some solar/wind power, a mixture of old and nearly new appliances, a fireplace, an antique wood burning cook stove in the kitchen and no A/C.

They also are able to see my extensive food stores and an assortment of firearms. Not to mention my Bug Out Bag hanging in the closet.

What kind of teeth does this law have? What happens as a consequence of noncompliance? What if I say "No I don't need a Home Energy Survey?"

What happens if a homeowner allows the inspectors access to the house? Is the homeowner forced to make "improvements" even if they don't want or can not afford them?

What if they determine that my antique wood stove is "bad"
Do they send a truck to pick it up and destroy it? Do they decide that at the age of 62 I should not be living in Florida without A/C? Do they send a contractor to install it and then send me the bill?

I can foresee all kinds of really bad things coming about as a result of all these draconian laws.

Do they hope that the "angry white man" syndrome will finally kick in and we will say NO MORE? Is this just one more straw on the camels back as a test to see what will give them the excuse to implement martial law and force this country into a lock-down dictatorship?

So many questions.

We do indeed live in interesting times.
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wtf is this shit??


Bureaucrats Will Carry Out Mandatory Home Inspections Under Climate Bill
Government vampires ready and waiting to sink their teeth into the fat hog American taxpayer once more

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Thursday, July 2, 2009

The controversial climate bill that is set to be taken up by the Senate on Monday after its passage in the House will legislate home inspections by government regulators who will demand to audit every aspect of your property under the threat of substantial and repeated fines if their visits are denied or their demands not satisfied.

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Bureaucrats Will Carry Out Mandatory Home Inspections Under Climate Bill

Government vampires ready and waiting to sink their teeth into the fat hog American taxpayer once more

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Paul Joseph Watson
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Thursday, July 2, 2009

The controversial climate bill that is set to be taken up by the Senate on Monday after its passage in the House will legislate home inspections by government regulators who will demand to audit every aspect of your property under the threat of substantial and repeated fines if their visits are denied or their demands not satisfied.

The climate legislation is written in a manner that automatically assumes that global warming is taking place and that it is attributed to rising CO2 levels, despite the fact that this is a highly contentious question and is being rejected by more and more scientists as time goes by.

As Tony Pacheco writes in his excellent article today, the bill will “audit every aspect of your home and life”.

The bill states every home owner will receive an energy audit. What is a home energy audit? It is an intrusive visit made by the bureaucrats at the Home Energy Team or a similar group. They will examine and report the way you live your life directly to RESNET (Residential Energy Services Network) . Light fixtures, socket types, spas, hot tubs, windows, appliances, walls and roofs will all be under review. Energy tests will be conducted throughout your house. At the end of the visit you will receive a report and a rating. The report will focus on the changes you need to make and the rating is called a HERS rating (Home Energy Rating System). RESNET will perform the audits through authorized contractors. RESNET has adopted the Mortgage Industry National Home Energy Rating Standards. The standards set the national procedures for home energy ratings.

According to RESNET, an audit consists of:
Comprehensive Home Energy Audit - A level of the RESNET Home Energy Audit process defined by this standard to include the evaluation, diagnosis and proposed treatment of an existing home. The Comprehensive Home Energy Audit may be based on a Home Performance Assessment (“Comprehensive Home Performance Energy Audit”) or Home Energy Rating (“Comprehensive HERS Audit”), in accordance with the criteria established by this Standard. A homeowner may elect to go through this process with or without a prior Home Energy Survey or Diagnostic Home Energy Survey.

Regulations already in place in some cities for non-residential buildings already carry fines of $2000 a time for preventing bureaucrats from carrying out inspections. These will simply be expanded to cover all premises under the new climate bill.

Under the RESNET standards
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for a home audit, the following procedures will become law under the climate bill.

704.1.2.3 The Home Energy Survey Professional shall request copies of utility bills or
written permission to obtain the energy use information from the utility company, and use
them to produce an estimate of generalized end-uses (base, heating, and cooling).
704.1.2.5. Minimum Procedures for an In-Home Energy Survey:
704.1.2.5.1.1 R-values of wall/ceiling/floor insulation
704.1.2.5.1.2 Square footage and approximate age of home
704.1.2.5.1.3 Type of windows: glazing type(s) and frame material(s)
704.1.2.5.1.4 Type, model number, and location of heating/cooling system(s)
704.1.2.5.1.5 Type of ductwork, location and R-value of duct insulation, and any
indications of previous duct sealing
704.1.2.5.1.6 Type of foundation is crawl, basement, or slab
704.1.2.5.1.7 Checklist of common air-leakage sites indicating likely opportunities
for leakage reduction
704.1.2.5.1.8 Estimated age and efficiency of major appliances such as
dishwashers, refrigerators, freezers, washing machines and dryers
704.1.2.5.1.9 Number and type of hardwired light fixtures and screw-in bulbs in
portable lamps suitable for energy efficient re-lamping
704.1.2.5.1.10 Visual indications of condensation
704.1.2.5.1.11 Presence and location of exhaust fans, and determination of whether
they are vented outdoors
704.1.2.5.1.12 Number and type of water fixtures (e.g. faucets, showerheads)
704.1.2.5.1.13 Presence and type(s) of combustion equipment; identification of
visually identifiable evidence of flame rollout, blocked chimney, and corroded or
missing vent connector.

As we have warned, the climate bill is nothing more than a feast for bloodthirsty government vampires, who are ready and waiting to suck off the fat hog of the American taxpayer once more.

Ohio Republican Senator George Voinovich says it will take a “miracle” for the Senate to pass the controversial climate bill next week, meaning that the legislation won’t be in place before United Nations climate talks in Copenhagen in December.

The Senator told Bloomberg News that the bill contains “a lot of crap” and that cutting CO2 emissions by 17 per cent before 2020 was an unobtainable goal.

Voinovich’s prediction that the bill will fail is echoed by Senator James Inhofe of Oklahoma, who said that the “razor-thin vote in the House spells doom in the Senate.”

However, Senator John Kerry claims that the bill will pass the Senate next week but that there won’t be enough sway to approve a global treaty that commits other nations to follow the same regulations.
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While you're tidying up the house, do my shorts, I'd like to get some sun before it rains.
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What kind of teeth does this law have? What happens as a consequence of noncompliance? What if I say "No I don't need a Home Energy Survey?"


FINES. First one : 2000$ + misdemenor.

What happens if a homeowner allows the inspectors access to the house? Is the homeowner forced to make "improvements" even if they don't want or can not afford them?

FINES and can't sell house.

What if they determine that my antique wood stove is "bad".

FORCED TO GET IT OUT.

Do they decide that at the age of 62 I should not be living in Florida without A/C? Do they send a contractor to install it and then send me the bill?

You will have to hire a contractor. And if you do not... FINES.




IMO all this shit will lead to VIOLENCE.
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IMO all this shit will lead to VIOLENCE.
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Personally I believe that VIOLENCE is the goal. We are being herded into the slaughtering pens. The fences are too high to jump out. We are stuck.

Many, many of us will go down fighting. Hopefully enough will survive to get rid of the despots.
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The problem is, if someone says there coming in my house, and I say no, then they aint coming in my house. End of story


AND YOU HAVE A 2000$ fine...for the FIRST OFFENCE.
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This is the exact same as squeezing a turnip.
Squeeze all you'd like, no blood is going to come out.

The little place I call home, I take very seriously. I don't go forcing my way into anyone else's house, and they are not going to come into mine. Sure, I have nothing to hide, but thats not even the point, its like a stranger looking through your underwear drawer, ya know?
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What kind of teeth does this law have? What happens as a consequence of noncompliance? What if I say "No I don't need a Home Energy Survey?"


FINES. First one : 2000$ + misdemenor.

What happens if a homeowner allows the inspectors access to the house? Is the homeowner forced to make "improvements" even if they don't want or can not afford them?

FINES and can't sell house.

What if they determine that my antique wood stove is "bad".

FORCED TO GET IT OUT.

Do they decide that at the age of 62 I should not be living in Florida without A/C? Do they send a contractor to install it and then send me the bill?

You will have to hire a contractor. And if you do not... FINES.




IMO all this shit will lead to VIOLENCE.

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imo thats the idea
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Alan Isaacman
The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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Alan Isaacman
The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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