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That includes other so-called religious people.

God is King in the sense that humans are not.
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so the states will run the program.

ok, just make sure your state rep votes
on the "home owner is his own inspector" bill.
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i am all for energy audits...home business or otherwise...but not mandatory...

should only be voluntary and if you decide to make the changes recommended by the audit and you get a rebate in doing so or a tax break...then ok

otherwise STAY THE FUCK OFF MY PROPERTY BIATCHES
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That would make too much sense. It's government, someone had to make a buck off of it or it's just not do-able.:(
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so the states will run the program.

ok, just make sure your state rep votes
on the "home owner is his own inspector" bill.
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that'll go over like a fart in church
political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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so the states will run the program.

ok, just make sure your state rep votes
on the "home owner is his own inspector" bill.

that'll go over like a fart in church
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maybe, but look what Arizona state reps
are trying to do with the Fed health care program,
planning to deep six the mf.
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i am all for energy audits...home business or otherwise...but not mandatory...

should only be voluntary and if you decide to make the changes recommended by the audit and you get a rebate in doing so or a tax break...then ok

otherwise STAY THE FUCK OFF MY PROPERTY BIATCHES

That would make too much sense. It's government, someone had to make a buck off of it or it's just not do-able.:(
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hey En hows that nipple? chuckle

all kidding aside youre right, and theyre the ones will will reap the benefits.
political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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Apparently, this is NOT an unwarranted search prospect...guess BushCo was right, the constitution is just a piece of paper
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Apparently, this is NOT an unwarranted search prospect...guess BushCo was right, the constitution is just a piece of paper
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next - you will see it shit-canned and rewrote. we're still 2 states away from a con con.

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THE ARTICLE IS NOT ABOUT A CONTINENTAL CONGRESS, BUT A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION.

I would think by now some people would be smart enough to know that a Con Con will open up the Constitution to all kinds of changes, many will not be for the good.

While on the surface it may sound like a great way to bypass Congress to make changes to the Constitution...it's not.

Remember what Ron Paul says about unintended consequences.

Read the following to find out how close they are to destroying all our remaining freedoms.

Some states have realized their error in voting for this and are trying to back out, but the Constitution has no provision for receding vote...once you're in it appears you're in.

The only way to stop it is to make sure no more states vote for it.

If you want to save what's left of America...Stop the Con Con Now!!!
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so the states will run the program.

ok, just make sure your state rep votes
on the "home owner is his own inspector" bill.

that'll go over like a fart in church


maybe, but look what Arizona state reps
are trying to do with the Fed health care program,
planning to deep six the mf.
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not here. pa sucks moose balls.
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This is the feds going way too far and invading our private domain.


As we have warned, the climate bill is nothing more than a feast for bloodthirsty government vampires, who are ready and waiting to suck off the fat hog of the American taxpayer once more.

Ohio Republican Senator George Voinovich says it will take a “miracle” for the Senate to pass the controversial climate bill next week, meaning that the legislation won’t be in place before United Nations climate talks in Copenhagen in December.

The Senator told Bloomberg News that the bill contains “a lot of crap” and that cutting CO2 emissions by 17 per cent before 2020 was an unobtainable goal.

Voinovich’s prediction that the bill will fail is echoed by Senator James Inhofe of Oklahoma, who said that the “razor-thin vote in the House spells doom in the Senate.”

However, Senator John Kerry claims that the bill will pass the Senate next week but that there won’t be enough sway to approve a global treaty that commits other nations to follow the same regulations.




Under the RESNET standards for a home audit, the following procedures will become law under the climate bill.

704.1.2.3 The Home Energy Survey Professional shall request copies of utility bills or
written permission to obtain the energy use information from the utility company, and use
them to produce an estimate of generalized end-uses (base, heating, and cooling).
704.1.2.5. Minimum Procedures for an In-Home Energy Survey:
704.1.2.5.1.1 R-values of wall/ceiling/floor insulation
704.1.2.5.1.2 Square footage and approximate age of home
704.1.2.5.1.3 Type of windows: glazing type(s) and frame material(s)
704.1.2.5.1.4 Type, model number, and location of heating/cooling system(s)
704.1.2.5.1.5 Type of ductwork, location and R-value of duct insulation, and any
indications of previous duct sealing
704.1.2.5.1.6 Type of foundation is crawl, basement, or slab
704.1.2.5.1.7 Checklist of common air-leakage sites indicating likely opportunities
for leakage reduction
704.1.2.5.1.8 Estimated age and efficiency of major appliances such as
dishwashers, refrigerators, freezers, washing machines and dryers
704.1.2.5.1.9 Number and type of hardwired light fixtures and screw-in bulbs in
portable lamps suitable for energy efficient re-lamping
704.1.2.5.1.10 Visual indications of condensation
704.1.2.5.1.11 Presence and location of exhaust fans, and determination of whether
they are vented outdoors
704.1.2.5.1.12 Number and type of water fixtures (e.g. faucets, showerheads)
704.1.2.5.1.13 Presence and type(s) of combustion equipment; identification of
visually identifiable evidence of flame rollout, blocked chimney, and corroded or
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Hey mods, how about a f*ckin PIN !!!!
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I was an energy auditor in the 1980's and the new check list is really not much different than it was back then. All of the information on the list is necessary in order to assess current energy usage and to determine the steps that the resident needs to take in order to improve energy efficiency and reduce energy cost. There was no space on my sheet for observations other than the ones on the checklist.(Although one of our auditors notified our mayor that his telephone was being bugged!) I'm pretty sure that the residential energy audit will only be mandatory if the resident receives financial assistance from the government for their energy bills. The audit can help the consumer save quite a bit of money and provides a hefty income for the auditor (or at least it did in the 80's) with the potential of earning around $750.00 a day for 5 or 6 hours work. It might be time for me to brush up on the principles of thermodynamics!
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I had called those names on the list who were involved directly with this. I got ahold of all but one of them. I ttold them my feelings on this matter and in all cases was treated courteously. I further suggested to the aides with whom I spoke that they needed to do one thing before even considering passing this bad bill.

I do not know about other states but here where I live our electrical utility rates have a number tiers on how you are charged. I get all the way into the 6th tier. I explained that these were developed back in the 40s or 50s when your average home probably had a maximum of a 50amp box wherein today , again, where I live, has a minimum of 200amp and many have 400amp and even 800amp boxes. The world is DEPENDENT on so many applications for work and living on essentials in our homes. This antiquated base system eats us alive already due to lack of recognition of this very fundamental point. I live on acreage, I have to pump all my water for anything, it is the chief contributor to my electrical useage. I do not run my heat pump, winter or summer with very rare and few exceptions. I ran it Saturday for 4 hours because we were 111 and again on Sunday, same period of time for same reason. In winter time my newer, well insultated home still gets below 50 and I do not run it. I only run the heat when we have company because I cannot expect others to suffer due to our power management issues.
I pay $200 every other month for water, amounts sufficient to irrigate our place but do not any longer irrigate my pastures and do not run my waterfall and pond. I have to pay for water I cannot use because if I give up the rights to it, no one will be able to ever again obtain it.

What they need to do is cut the BS, develop a cohesive approach to this and that would require input from business, from people who can offer facts and information attendant to how to work out of this and to also come clean with the fact that this is just another intrusion into our private lives and policing of very same.
This means everyone, here on GLP, needs to take a more proactive stance, a public stance and scream bloody murder.
Just my opinion, use it or lose it.
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This is the feds going way too far and invading our private domain.


As we have warned, the climate bill is nothing more than a feast for bloodthirsty government vampires, who are ready and waiting to suck off the fat hog of the American taxpayer once more.

Ohio Republican Senator George Voinovich says it will take a “miracle” for the Senate to pass the controversial climate bill next week, meaning that the legislation won’t be in place before United Nations climate talks in Copenhagen in December.

The Senator told Bloomberg News that the bill contains “a lot of crap” and that cutting CO2 emissions by 17 per cent before 2020 was an unobtainable goal.

Voinovich’s prediction that the bill will fail is echoed by Senator James Inhofe of Oklahoma, who said that the “razor-thin vote in the House spells doom in the Senate.”

However, Senator John Kerry claims that the bill will pass the Senate next week but that there won’t be enough sway to approve a global treaty that commits other nations to follow the same regulations.




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Ron Paul: Democrats Who Opposed Climate Bill Voted For It
In a Campaign for Liberty video commentary, Ron Paul reveals that even though up to 20 Democrats opposed the controversial climate bill, they voted for it anyway, underscoring once again how the vast majority of Congress members are bought and paid for by the elite in Washington.

The Congressman points out that the eight Republicans who voted for the bill did so in order to provide political cover for the Democrats. Even if those Republicans had not defected, some of the 44 Democrats who voted against the bill would have changed their votes anyway to ensure the bill’s passage.

“One Democrat talked to me, a friend of mine,” said Paul, “and I said how are you going to vote on this bill and he said I’m going to vote for the bill but then he sort of whispered and he said, but I sure hope it doesn’t pass.”

Asked why he was voting for a bill that he actually opposed, the Democrat responded, “yeah I have to do that.”

“I said are there any other Democrats that are going to be voting for it and they really don’t like the bill, and he said, oh yeah about 15 or 20 of them,” added Paul.

This underlines how Washington is completely corrupt at its core and how, even if individual members of Congress oppose a bill, they vote for it anyway just to satisfy the agenda of the elite and maintain the status quo.

If the 15 or 20 Democrats who opposed the bill had actually voted against it, the bill would have failed and America would not be facing another great depression, a massive lowering of living standards, and the complete regulation of every aspect of our lives, all of which the climate bill will grease the skids for.

Writing on the Campaign for Liberty website, Congressman Paul states that the climate bill will “put another nail in the economy’s coffin

Paul compares the carbon trading scam, a system that is owned and will benefit to the tune of billions or even trillions of dollars long time environmental hysterics like Al Gore and Maurice Strong, to how the Catholic Church sold indulgences to sinners from the 10th century onwards.

The Congressman illustrates how the Obama administration has cited Spain as an example of how a “progressive energy policy” can be successful, when in fact Spain is in economic turmoil partly as a result of this very policy.

“The administration has pointed to Spain as a shining example of this type of progressive energy policy. Spain has been massively diverting capital from the private sector into politically favored environmental projects for the better part of a decade, and many in Washington apparently like what they see. However, under no circumstances should anyone serious about economic recovery emulate an economy that is now approaching 20 percent unemployment, where every green job created, eliminated 2.2 real jobs and cost around $800,000 each!”

“The real inconvenient truth is that the cost of government regulations, taxes, fees, red tape and bureaucracy is a considerable expense that has to be considered when companies decide where to do business and how many people they can afford to hire. Increasing governmental burden directly causes capital flight and job losses, as Spain has learned. In this global economy its easy enough for businesses to relocate to countries that are more politically friendly to economic growth. If our government continues to kick the economy while its down, it will be a long time before it gets back up. In fact, jobs are much more likely to go overseas, compounding our problems.”

Paul concludes by pointing out that the climate bill is based around the manufactured threat of global warming and that even if one accepts the premise that CO2 emissions cause significant temperature increases, the biggest polluters, the U.S. government and specifically the U.S. military, will be exempt from most of the new EPA regulations anyway.

Watch the clip of the Congressman’s comments below.


political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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Because this will be us if we let this go...

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best get a warrant bureaucommies,we have CASTLE DOCTRINE here
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Have already written my 2 Senators informing them that a yes vote on this bill will mean a no vote to their re-election.

Have you done that? If not, it is definitely time to do it TODAY! before they shut down for the holiday weekend. None of them work on Fridays as it is.

oh i faxed i wrote and i called. lotta good its gonna do. theyre not listening.[/b]
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let them start in the hood first rofl
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Paranoid Delusions

They once again don't have the money or the resources for this crap.

O.P. you fail
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Yet another sheep not paying attention.
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Paranoid Delusions

They once again don't have the money or the resources for this crap.

O.P. you fail


Yet another sheep not paying attention.
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As an aside, this particular OP never fails.
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Time to post this about a land patent and why you need it.

Steps to secure a Land Patent:
We present the following in the hope that you will educate yourself with the truth and prepare yourself to stand, as our forefathers did, and as the founding fathers of this nation did, with your Land, Liberty, and Rights intact.
By definition a Land Patent is the only form of proof of absolute title to Land in the United States of America. “A patent is the highest evidence of title and is conclusive as against the government and all claiming under junior patents or titles” U.S. v. Stone 2 US 525. The patented “grant of land is a public law standing on the statute books of the State, and is notice to every subsequent purchaser under any conflicting sale made afterward.” Wineman v. Gastrell 2 U.S. App. 581. “State statutes that give less authoritative ownership of title than the patent can not even be brought into federal court” Langdon v. Sherwood, 124 U.S. 74, 81. Land patents are granted to the named party and to their heirs and assigns forever. Therefore, to secure ownership of land you must have a proper chain of title secured to your acceptance of a properly assigned underlying land patent, or you could loose your land in a land contest. The following steps are the steps we follow to secure the proper documents to accomplish this. We use our copyrighted forms which we cannot publish here because there are so many unscrupulous people that would use these forms incorrectly. These forms are only available from Team Law directly. With the exception of our filling out said copyrighted forms the following steps are the steps followed by the person seeking to perfect their title with their acceptance of the Land Patent related to it:
• First, you must have evidence of a your right to the land, i.e.: Warranty Deed, a well supported Quitclaim Deed, documented Assignment, Inheritance, etc. In any land rights battle, the complete chain of title is necessary so we would always secure the entire chain of title for our own records. To secure Team Law's documentation we do not need the complete Title, we only need to see certified proof of the most recent Deeds that grant the Land to you. We need to see a certified copy of your Warranty Deed (if your right to the land was acquired by a Quitclaim Deed we need to see a certified copy of it and of every other transfer document back to a Warranty Deed).
• Second, find the land description on your right to the land (your deed) and get it into land patent format.
In the original 13 states, land descriptions are usually made by describing landmarks and ‘meets and bounds’, which is where a description starts at a known point then describes how far to go in each direction until the body of the land is described. That method is difficult to deal with over time, because landmarks move. Since the Constitutional Republic has been formed virtually the rest of the country was mapped in Section, Township, and Range format (hereafter “STRf”). If the legal description of your land on your right to the land documents (hereafter “Warranty Deed”) is not in STRf, then you need to get it into that format to find the proper Land Patent for your Land. To do that you need to trace the legal description on your Warranty Deed back to STRf. For example, if your Deed says, “Lot 3 of the Bryerton Subdivision as recorded in the Dexter County Land Records”, then you go to the Dexter County Clerk and Recorder’s office and find the original copy of the Subdivision’s plat map. Find your lot and locate the Section, Township, and Range that includes your lot. Get a certified copy of the County plat map of the subdivision your land is located in (we always get two certified copies of everything, then we keep the documents in two separate places for security’s sake); you’ll especially need the part that legally describes the land. That part is called: “the legal”, and it almost always lists the Land description in STRf. While you’re there it won’t hurt to get a couple certified copies of your Warranty Deed from their records (if you don't already have them). If your land records describe your land in 'meets and bounds', you'll need to contact us directly by logging onto Team Law’s Forum and send a Private Message to Admin requesting assistance. If you have, a Trust Deed and no Warranty Deed, you will also want to contact Team Law for additional help through our Online Forum.
• Third, with the description of your Land in STRf, you’re ready to go acquire a copy of the appropriate Land Patent for your Land. This is done by taking the legal description of your Land, in STRf, to the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and asking them (in their Land Patent records office) for a Certified copy of the Land Patent for the land represented by your Land description including, Section, Township, and Range. It’s a good idea to get at least two certified copies of the appropriate Patent and a copy of the "Patent Plat map" for the particular Township your land is in.
• Fourth, now that you have certified copies of your Land Patent and certified copies and or originals of your Warranty Deed you’re ready to send your documents to Team Law for their completion. We will compile your documents into a Land Patent Sandwich. The Land Patent sandwich is a single document compiled of several documents listed top to bottom as follows:

• Fifth, when you get the forms back minimally, you will need a Notary Public to date and sign your documents as suggested when you have them ready.
• Sixth, you need not publicly file any records of your Land Patent, however, most people prefer to protect themselves further with public filing. A public record of your ownership interest can resolve allegations from anyone alleging they have an ownership interest and a statutory “race to the courts”. If you wish to make a public recording, there are several methods you may use. They are as follows:
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2. Make public notice that you accepted the assignment of the patent in the legal notices in a local newspaper.
3. Post the Land Patent Sandwich on the County’s public notice bulletin board (usually found at either the County (district) Courthouse or at the Sheriff’s office). Post Office bulletin boards would also be sufficient.
Understanding how the sandwich works: On the bottom of the sandwich, you have the highest authority of land title, the certified copy of your Land Patent. Its own words prove the land belongs (fee simple) to the party named on the patent and to their heirs and assigns forever. The patent proves your right of assignment or inheritance so the next document is your copyrighted Declaration of acceptance of the Land Patent. Your right to claim the land is your assignment on the land, which assignment is found within your Warranty Deed (where the deed says "grants" and/or "assigns"). Therefore, a certified copy of your Warranty Deed is the third document on the pile. The top document is your copyrighted Quitclaim Deed, which moves your land out of equity (fairness to the contract) and into law (fact in fee simple).
Keeping two copies is is best, keeping each in a separate secure locations.
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Again, it is important to realize having a Land Patent does not limit you from willingly going into debt or from forming contracts. The fact is, property taxes are the result of a private contract between you and the state of 'X'. Nothing impedes your right to contract. Respectively, if you desire to so contract the property appurtenant to your Land, you obligate yourself to follow the terms and conditions of your contract.
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Sincerely, let’s get together and take our nation back.
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Have already written my 2 Senators informing them that a yes vote on this bill will mean a no vote to their re-election.

Have you done that? If not, it is definitely time to do it TODAY! before they shut down for the holiday weekend. None of them work on Fridays as it is.

oh i faxed i wrote and i called. lotta good its gonna do. theyre not listening.
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Here's my thread on the Congressional traitors...

Thread: HR2454 Voter Hit List

Please refer to the list I created, so you can easily identify your representatives and treat them accordingly in 2010.
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Time to post this about a land patent and why you need it.

Steps to secure a Land Patent:
We present the following in the hope that you will educate yourself with the truth and prepare yourself to stand, as our forefathers did, and as the founding fathers of this nation did, with your Land, Liberty, and Rights intact.
By definition a Land Patent is the only form of proof of absolute title to Land in the United States of America. “A patent is the highest evidence of title and is conclusive as against the government and all claiming under junior patents or titles” U.S. v. Stone 2 US 525. The patented “grant of land is a public law standing on the statute books of the State, and is notice to every subsequent purchaser under any conflicting sale made afterward.” Wineman v. Gastrell 2 U.S. App. 581. “State statutes that give less authoritative ownership of title than the patent can not even be brought into federal court” Langdon v. Sherwood, 124 U.S. 74, 81. Land patents are granted to the named party and to their heirs and assigns forever. Therefore, to secure ownership of land you must have a proper chain of title secured to your acceptance of a properly assigned underlying land patent, or you could loose your land in a land contest. The following steps are the steps we follow to secure the proper documents to accomplish this. We use our copyrighted forms which we cannot publish here because there are so many unscrupulous people that would use these forms incorrectly. These forms are only available from Team Law directly. With the exception of our filling out said copyrighted forms the following steps are the steps followed by the person seeking to perfect their title with their acceptance of the Land Patent related to it:
• First, you must have evidence of a your right to the land, i.e.: Warranty Deed, a well supported Quitclaim Deed, documented Assignment, Inheritance, etc. In any land rights battle, the complete chain of title is necessary so we would always secure the entire chain of title for our own records. To secure Team Law's documentation we do not need the complete Title, we only need to see certified proof of the most recent Deeds that grant the Land to you. We need to see a certified copy of your Warranty Deed (if your right to the land was acquired by a Quitclaim Deed we need to see a certified copy of it and of every other transfer document back to a Warranty Deed).
• Second, find the land description on your right to the land (your deed) and get it into land patent format.
In the original 13 states, land descriptions are usually made by describing landmarks and ‘meets and bounds’, which is where a description starts at a known point then describes how far to go in each direction until the body of the land is described. That method is difficult to deal with over time, because landmarks move. Since the Constitutional Republic has been formed virtually the rest of the country was mapped in Section, Township, and Range format (hereafter “STRf”). If the legal description of your land on your right to the land documents (hereafter “Warranty Deed”) is not in STRf, then you need to get it into that format to find the proper Land Patent for your Land. To do that you need to trace the legal description on your Warranty Deed back to STRf. For example, if your Deed says, “Lot 3 of the Bryerton Subdivision as recorded in the Dexter County Land Records”, then you go to the Dexter County Clerk and Recorder’s office and find the original copy of the Subdivision’s plat map. Find your lot and locate the Section, Township, and Range that includes your lot. Get a certified copy of the County plat map of the subdivision your land is located in (we always get two certified copies of everything, then we keep the documents in two separate places for security’s sake); you’ll especially need the part that legally describes the land. That part is called: “the legal”, and it almost always lists the Land description in STRf. While you’re there it won’t hurt to get a couple certified copies of your Warranty Deed from their records (if you don't already have them). If your land records describe your land in 'meets and bounds', you'll need to contact us directly by logging onto Team Law’s Forum and send a Private Message to Admin requesting assistance. If you have, a Trust Deed and no Warranty Deed, you will also want to contact Team Law for additional help through our Online Forum.
• Third, with the description of your Land in STRf, you’re ready to go acquire a copy of the appropriate Land Patent for your Land. This is done by taking the legal description of your Land, in STRf, to the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and asking them (in their Land Patent records office) for a Certified copy of the Land Patent for the land represented by your Land description including, Section, Township, and Range. It’s a good idea to get at least two certified copies of the appropriate Patent and a copy of the "Patent Plat map" for the particular Township your land is in.
• Fourth, now that you have certified copies of your Land Patent and certified copies and or originals of your Warranty Deed you’re ready to send your documents to Team Law for their completion. We will compile your documents into a Land Patent Sandwich. The Land Patent sandwich is a single document compiled of several documents listed top to bottom as follows:

• Fifth, when you get the forms back minimally, you will need a Notary Public to date and sign your documents as suggested when you have them ready.
• Sixth, you need not publicly file any records of your Land Patent, however, most people prefer to protect themselves further with public filing. A public record of your ownership interest can resolve allegations from anyone alleging they have an ownership interest and a statutory “race to the courts”. If you wish to make a public recording, there are several methods you may use. They are as follows:
1. File it in the Clerk and Recorder’s office with the land records of the county.
2. Make public notice that you accepted the assignment of the patent in the legal notices in a local newspaper.
3. Post the Land Patent Sandwich on the County’s public notice bulletin board (usually found at either the County (district) Courthouse or at the Sheriff’s office). Post Office bulletin boards would also be sufficient.
Understanding how the sandwich works: On the bottom of the sandwich, you have the highest authority of land title, the certified copy of your Land Patent. Its own words prove the land belongs (fee simple) to the party named on the patent and to their heirs and assigns forever. The patent proves your right of assignment or inheritance so the next document is your copyrighted Declaration of acceptance of the Land Patent. Your right to claim the land is your assignment on the land, which assignment is found within your Warranty Deed (where the deed says "grants" and/or "assigns"). Therefore, a certified copy of your Warranty Deed is the third document on the pile. The top document is your copyrighted Quitclaim Deed, which moves your land out of equity (fairness to the contract) and into law (fact in fee simple).
Keeping two copies is is best, keeping each in a separate secure locations.
With a land patent as the operating authority on the land, the Land cannot thereafter lawfully be taken for debt or taxes, except by the willing grant of the Landowner. This fact does not limit the owner from the ability to willingly enter contracts. Such contracts may contain the landowner’s full authority to convey the land. Team Law can help its beneficiaries understand and resolve related matters. For further information, contact us by logging onto Team Law’s Forum and send a Private Message to Admin requesting assistance.
Again, it is important to realize having a Land Patent does not limit you from willingly going into debt or from forming contracts. The fact is, property taxes are the result of a private contract between you and the state of 'X'. Nothing impedes your right to contract. Respectively, if you desire to so contract the property appurtenant to your Land, you obligate yourself to follow the terms and conditions of your contract.
Well, that’s about it for now. Please watch for our forthcoming book on Land Patents and taking back America. A more in-depth review of the Land Patent process is available in our Do it Yourself Land Patents album which you can get from our Order Form. There are also good articles on Land Patents in our WARN newsletter on page 13 and in our Open Forum Land 101 mini course presented there.
Sincerely, let’s get together and take our nation back.
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The Chef

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07/02/2009 04:21 PM
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Phenn you are right most people have no idea what it's about all they have heard for the last week is Michael Jackson. It's really going to be hard to get the word out about this bill because people just don't understand it. I tell you if this thing does go through it's going to be a lot of people pretty damn lucky if they don't freeze in the winter a few years from now when the bills really start to spike up. My electric bill here in Virginia already hits near $400 in the middle of winter. Even under the low estimates this is going to put it at $525 a month at peak plus regular increases.
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07/02/2009 04:25 PM
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best get a warrant bureaucommies,we have CASTLE DOCTRINE here
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ours has been sitting in the house collecting fuckin dist since 07 and when this year we proposed sovereignty then the pittsburgh shootings happened and rendell went ape shit re castle law.

Castle Doctrine Bill before judiciary on Dec 11 in Pa:

"PENNSYLVANIA: "Castle Doctrine" Bill Set to be Heard in House Judiciary Committee! On Tuesday, December 11, at 10:00 a.m. in Room G50 of the Irvis Office Building, the House Judiciary Committee is slated to hear House Bill 641, vital "Castle Doctrine" legislation. This bill would ensure that Pennsylvanians have the ability to defend themselves and their loved ones from violent attack without fear of criminal prosecution or civil action. Please contact the members of the House Judiciary Committee today and respectfully urge them to protect our right to self-defense by supporting HB 641. Contact information can be found byFor Pennsylvania residents, you have three dates to remember…Nov. 15, 2005, May 6, 2007 and Jan. 26, 2009. On the first date, House Bill 2231 (Castle Doctrine legislation) was given to the House Judiciary Committee; it never made it out of committee for a vote. On the second date, House Bill 641 (the same Castle Doctrine legislation) was again sent to the Judiciary Committee only to die in committee again. On Jan. 26th of this year, House Bill 40 (the same Castle Doctrine legislation) was sent to the Judiciary Committee for the third time. If you are a resident of the state of Pennsylvania, it’s time for you to make a decision. If you believe that running and hiding is the right way to deal with an armed intruder in your home, then do nothing. If you believe in letting a carjacker assault you and take your car, then do nothing. If you believe in letting a criminal attack your spouse or children in a public place, then do nothing. In its current form, House Bill 40 is legislation written to protect the victim in certain circumstances from criminal and civil actions. Just to further clarify a ‘Castle Doctrine’, even protecting yourself with a baseball bat makes you vulnerable.
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Pennsylvania’s “Castle Doctrine” Bill Postponed Until Next Year

Thursday, December 13, 2007
On Tuesday, December 11, "Castle Doctrine" legislation, House Bill 641, introduced by State Representative Steven Cappelli (R-83), was scheduled to be heard by the House Judiciary Committee.

The legislation has been tabled and will not be heard until next year. HB641 will ensure that law-abiding Pennsylvanians have the ability to protect themselves and loved ones without the fear of criminal prosecution or civil action.
The Chef

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07/02/2009 04:57 PM
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Oh man I just saw that it will actually be a criminal charge if you deny auditors access to your home. This really should be pinned.

There is no doubt homes need to be more efficient, however, this audit will drain the pockets of the unlucky people whose houses are older and/or cheaply made due to builder irresponsibility. Let’s say your builder used cheap windows, very little insulation or a high-water toilet, the cost of those upgrades will be in the thousands of dollars. By making the recommended changes, you will receive a tax credit for improvements made under the energy star program. Please note, most rebates are 30% of cost, maximum $1500. Good luck if your central air is deemed unacceptable. After the upgrades are completed, you must have the auditors back out to your property for a final inspection. Early reports of denying audits carry a misdemeanor charge and a $2000 fine for each count. The more you deny, the more you pay.
The Chef

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07/02/2009 05:07 PM
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bump for awareness
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07/02/2009 05:13 PM
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Let's see..

You KNOW it's shit, you KNOW the site you got it from SUCKS horse dick, and STILL you post it here and ask "what is this shit"??

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