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Let's see..

You KNOW it's shit, you KNOW the site you got it from SUCKS horse dick, and STILL you post it here and ask "what is this shit"??

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It's exactly what is in the bill maybe you should look it up. This stuff is for real like it or not.
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Can the OP or anybody else point me to the exact section in the bill where this audit is located?

I believe you but just want to verify for myself.


Here is the bill.
[link to www.govtrack.us]
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Have already written my 2 Senators informing them that a yes vote on this bill will mean a no vote to their re-election.

Have you done that? If not, it is definitely time to do it TODAY! before they shut down for the holiday weekend. None of them work on Fridays as it is.

oh i faxed i wrote and i called. lotta good its gonna do. theyre not listening.[/b]


let them start in the hood first rofl
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Time to post this about a land patent and why you need it.

Steps to secure a Land Patent:
We present the following in the hope that you will educate yourself with the truth and prepare yourself to stand, as our forefathers did, and as the founding fathers of this nation did, with your Land, Liberty, and Rights intact.
By definition a Land Patent is the only form of proof of absolute title to Land in the United States of America. “A patent is the highest evidence of title and is conclusive as against the government and all claiming under junior patents or titles” U.S. v. Stone 2 US 525. The patented “grant of land is a public law standing on the statute books of the State, and is notice to every subsequent purchaser under any conflicting sale made afterward.” Wineman v. Gastrell 2 U.S. App. 581. “State statutes that give less authoritative ownership of title than the patent can not even be brought into federal court” Langdon v. Sherwood, 124 U.S. 74, 81. Land patents are granted to the named party and to their heirs and assigns forever. Therefore, to secure ownership of land you must have a proper chain of title secured to your acceptance of a properly assigned underlying land patent, or you could loose your land in a land contest. The following steps are the steps we follow to secure the proper documents to accomplish this. We use our copyrighted forms which we cannot publish here because there are so many unscrupulous people that would use these forms incorrectly. These forms are only available from Team Law directly. With the exception of our filling out said copyrighted forms the following steps are the steps followed by the person seeking to perfect their title with their acceptance of the Land Patent related to it:
• First, you must have evidence of a your right to the land, i.e.: Warranty Deed, a well supported Quitclaim Deed, documented Assignment, Inheritance, etc. In any land rights battle, the complete chain of title is necessary so we would always secure the entire chain of title for our own records. To secure Team Law's documentation we do not need the complete Title, we only need to see certified proof of the most recent Deeds that grant the Land to you. We need to see a certified copy of your Warranty Deed (if your right to the land was acquired by a Quitclaim Deed we need to see a certified copy of it and of every other transfer document back to a Warranty Deed).
• Second, find the land description on your right to the land (your deed) and get it into land patent format.
In the original 13 states, land descriptions are usually made by describing landmarks and ‘meets and bounds’, which is where a description starts at a known point then describes how far to go in each direction until the body of the land is described. That method is difficult to deal with over time, because landmarks move. Since the Constitutional Republic has been formed virtually the rest of the country was mapped in Section, Township, and Range format (hereafter “STRf”). If the legal description of your land on your right to the land documents (hereafter “Warranty Deed”) is not in STRf, then you need to get it into that format to find the proper Land Patent for your Land. To do that you need to trace the legal description on your Warranty Deed back to STRf. For example, if your Deed says, “Lot 3 of the Bryerton Subdivision as recorded in the Dexter County Land Records”, then you go to the Dexter County Clerk and Recorder’s office and find the original copy of the Subdivision’s plat map. Find your lot and locate the Section, Township, and Range that includes your lot. Get a certified copy of the County plat map of the subdivision your land is located in (we always get two certified copies of everything, then we keep the documents in two separate places for security’s sake); you’ll especially need the part that legally describes the land. That part is called: “the legal”, and it almost always lists the Land description in STRf. While you’re there it won’t hurt to get a couple certified copies of your Warranty Deed from their records (if you don't already have them). If your land records describe your land in 'meets and bounds', you'll need to contact us directly by logging onto Team Law’s Forum and send a Private Message to Admin requesting assistance. If you have, a Trust Deed and no Warranty Deed, you will also want to contact Team Law for additional help through our Online Forum.
• Third, with the description of your Land in STRf, you’re ready to go acquire a copy of the appropriate Land Patent for your Land. This is done by taking the legal description of your Land, in STRf, to the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and asking them (in their Land Patent records office) for a Certified copy of the Land Patent for the land represented by your Land description including, Section, Township, and Range. It’s a good idea to get at least two certified copies of the appropriate Patent and a copy of the "Patent Plat map" for the particular Township your land is in.
• Fourth, now that you have certified copies of your Land Patent and certified copies and or originals of your Warranty Deed you’re ready to send your documents to Team Law for their completion. We will compile your documents into a Land Patent Sandwich. The Land Patent sandwich is a single document compiled of several documents listed top to bottom as follows:

• Fifth, when you get the forms back minimally, you will need a Notary Public to date and sign your documents as suggested when you have them ready.
• Sixth, you need not publicly file any records of your Land Patent, however, most people prefer to protect themselves further with public filing. A public record of your ownership interest can resolve allegations from anyone alleging they have an ownership interest and a statutory “race to the courts”. If you wish to make a public recording, there are several methods you may use. They are as follows:
1. File it in the Clerk and Recorder’s office with the land records of the county.
2. Make public notice that you accepted the assignment of the patent in the legal notices in a local newspaper.
3. Post the Land Patent Sandwich on the County’s public notice bulletin board (usually found at either the County (district) Courthouse or at the Sheriff’s office). Post Office bulletin boards would also be sufficient.
Understanding how the sandwich works: On the bottom of the sandwich, you have the highest authority of land title, the certified copy of your Land Patent. Its own words prove the land belongs (fee simple) to the party named on the patent and to their heirs and assigns forever. The patent proves your right of assignment or inheritance so the next document is your copyrighted Declaration of acceptance of the Land Patent. Your right to claim the land is your assignment on the land, which assignment is found within your Warranty Deed (where the deed says "grants" and/or "assigns"). Therefore, a certified copy of your Warranty Deed is the third document on the pile. The top document is your copyrighted Quitclaim Deed, which moves your land out of equity (fairness to the contract) and into law (fact in fee simple).
Keeping two copies is is best, keeping each in a separate secure locations.
With a land patent as the operating authority on the land, the Land cannot thereafter lawfully be taken for debt or taxes, except by the willing grant of the Landowner. This fact does not limit the owner from the ability to willingly enter contracts. Such contracts may contain the landowner’s full authority to convey the land. Team Law can help its beneficiaries understand and resolve related matters. For further information, contact us by logging onto Team Law’s Forum and send a Private Message to Admin requesting assistance.
Again, it is important to realize having a Land Patent does not limit you from willingly going into debt or from forming contracts. The fact is, property taxes are the result of a private contract between you and the state of 'X'. Nothing impedes your right to contract. Respectively, if you desire to so contract the property appurtenant to your Land, you obligate yourself to follow the terms and conditions of your contract.
Well, that’s about it for now. Please watch for our forthcoming book on Land Patents and taking back America. A more in-depth review of the Land Patent process is available in our Do it Yourself Land Patents album which you can get from our Order Form. There are also good articles on Land Patents in our WARN newsletter on page 13 and in our Open Forum Land 101 mini course presented there.
Sincerely, let’s get together and take our nation back.
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beautiful!!!
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Have already written my 2 Senators informing them that a yes vote on this bill will mean a no vote to their re-election.

Have you done that? If not, it is definitely time to do it TODAY! before they shut down for the holiday weekend. None of them work on Fridays as it is.

oh i faxed i wrote and i called. lotta good its gonna do. theyre not listening.



Here's my thread on the Congressional traitors...

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Please refer to the list I created, so you can easily identify your representatives and treat them accordingly in 2010.
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you can bet your ass many will be FIRED lol
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Phenn you are right most people have no idea what it's about all they have heard for the last week is Michael Jackson. It's really going to be hard to get the word out about this bill because people just don't understand it. I tell you if this thing does go through it's going to be a lot of people pretty damn lucky if they don't freeze in the winter a few years from now when the bills really start to spike up. My electric bill here in Virginia already hits near $400 in the middle of winter. Even under the low estimates this is going to put it at $525 a month at peak plus regular increases.
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i was just telling someone in a conference call last night (a glp'er) that even obamas own koolaid drinkers are now saying "WTF here"? theyre startin to see that this admin is a sack of deceit.
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I believe it is in section 202 "building retrofit program" Even that small section is fill of so much legalese as to make you have a headache though.
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i am all for energy audits...home business or otherwise...but not mandatory...

should only be voluntary and if you decide to make the changes recommended by the audit and you get a rebate in doing so or a tax break...then ok
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I agree, VOLUNTARY energy audits are an excellent way to reduce utility bills.

People with older homes are going to get hammered by mandatory audits.
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Let's see..

You KNOW it's shit, you KNOW the site you got it from SUCKS horse dick, and STILL you post it here and ask "what is this shit"??

dumbass


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dude its happening all over - and in US states too. dont be a ignoramatard. the green agenda is a bullshit facade.

remember - a spoon full of sugar makes the medicine go down.....cmon join the chorus pwned ass.


Remodeling Market Memo » Home Energy Audits: Should They Be Mandatory?
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Home sellers face $300 'green' audit
Province's clean-energy bill would raise hydro rates, promote alternative power and create 50,000 jobs
February 24, 2009
Rob Ferguson
QUEEN'S PARK BUREAU
Ontario residents won't be able to sell their houses or condos without first getting a home energy audit – which now costs about $300 – under the proposed new Green Energy Act.
[link to www.yourhome.ca]



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Thu. Jul. 02, 03:46pm ESTWell now we’re learning why 300 pages were added at 3 a.m. and the Congress wasn’t allowed time to read this bill. The climate bill will legislate home inspections by government regulators who will demand to audit every aspect of your property under the threat of substantial and repeated fines if their visits are denied or their demands not satisfied. Senator James Inhofe of Oklahoma, said that the “razor-thin vote in the House spells doom in the Senate.” Let’s hope he’s right.
Bureaucrats Will Carry Out Mandatory Home Inspections Under Climate Bill
H.R. 2454 is a 1400-page promise to audit every aspect of your home and life under the guise of creating jobs, clean energy and a sustainable world. However, before we get into the bill lets examine the way it’s been handled.
The secrecy of the bill and the speed of which the legislation is being railroaded is quite alarming. The last two times I’ve seen this was with the Patriot Act and TARP legislation.

Congressman Ron Paul told the Washington Times that no one was allowed to read the Patriot Act, and for that, we received one of the most anti-American legislations we’ve ever seen.
TARP had similar shenanigans, it was rushed through the house, no one could read it.

There are several problems with this bill, however I’ll only address the first two, as the third is self-explanatory;1) The bill makes the assumption that man-made climate change is undisputed and widely accepted as fact.2) The bill unleashes bureaucrats to audit and judge your lifestyle.3) The bill will drive the last remaining manufacturing jobs out of the country to unregulated countries.
Home Audit: A Look into the FutureThe bill states every home owner will receive an energy audit. What is a home energy audit? It is an intrusive visit made by the bureaucrats at the Home Energy Team or a similar group. They will examine and report the way you live your life directly to RESNET (Residential Energy Services Network). Light fixtures, socket types, spas, hot tubs, windows, appliances, walls and roofs will all be under review. Energy tests will be conducted throughout your house. At the end of the visit you will receive a report and a rating. The report will focus on the changes you need to make and the rating is called a HERS rating (Home Energy Rating System). RESNET will perform the audits through authorized contractors. RESNET has adopted the Mortgage Industry National Home Energy Rating Standards. The standards set the national procedures for home energy ratings.According to RESNET, an audit consists of:Comprehensive Home Energy Audit - A level of the RESNET Home Energy Audit process defined by this standard to include the evaluation, diagnosis and proposed treatment of an existing home. The Comprehensive Home Energy Audit may be based on a Home Performance Assessment (“Comprehensive Home Performance Energy Audit”) or Home Energy Rating (“Comprehensive HERS Audit”), in accordance with the criteria established by this Standard. A homeowner may elect to go through this process with or without a prior
Home Energy Survey or Diagnostic Home Energy Survey.
Here is an in-depth breakdown of the audit:
704.1.2.3 The Home Energy Survey Professional shall request copies of utility bills orwritten permission to obtain the energy use information from the utility company, and usethem to produce an estimate of generalized end-uses (base, heating, and cooling).
704.1.2.5. Minimum Procedures for an In-Home Energy Survey:
704.1.2.5.1.1 R-values of wall/ceiling/floor insulation
704.1.2.5.1.2 Square footage and approximate age of home
704.1.2.5.1.3 Type of windows: glazing type(s) and frame material(s)
704.1.2.5.1.4 Type, model number, and location of heating/cooling system(s)
704.1.2.5.1.5 Type of ductwork, location and R-value of duct insulation, and anyindications of previous duct sealing
704.1.2.5.1.6 Type of foundation is crawl, basement, or slab
704.1.2.5.1.7 Checklist of common air-leakage sites indicating likely opportunities for leakage reduction
704.1.2.5.1.8 Estimated age and efficiency of major appliances such asdishwashers, refrigerators, freezers, washing machines and dryers
704.1.2.5.1.9 Number and type of hardwired light fixtures and screw-in bulbs in portable lamps suitable for energy efficient re-lamping
704.1.2.5.1.10 Visual indications of condensation
704.1.2.5.1.11 Presence and location of exhaust fans, and determination of whether they are vented outdoors
704.1.2.5.1.12 Number and type of water fixtures (e.g. faucets, showerheads)
704.1.2.5.1.13 Presence and type(s) of combustion equipment; identification of visually identifiable evidence of flame rollout, blocked chimney, and corroded or missing vent connector.

There is no doubt homes need to be more efficient, however, this audit will drain the pockets of the unlucky people whose houses are older and/or cheaply made due to builder irresponsibility. Let’s say your builder used cheap windows, very little insulation or a high-water toilet, the cost of those upgrades will be in the thousands of dollars. By making the recommended changes, you will receive a tax credit for improvements made under the energy star program.
Please note, most rebates are 30% of cost, maximum $1500. Good luck if your central air is deemed unacceptable. After the upgrades are completed, you must have the auditors back out to your property for a final inspection.
Early reports of denying audits carry a misdemeanor charge and a $2000 fine for each count. The more you deny, the more you pay.

As mentioned before, we do need clean energy, less fossil fuel, more efficient homes and cars, but not this way. Make no mistake, we do have real environmental crises; drugs in the water, cloning, species extinction, genocide and genetically modified food are all very real. Let’s focus on those, before you focus on the kind of faucet I have in the bathroom. Recycle, walk, ride a bike from time-to-time, open your windows, tune-up your car and plant a garden, but please, stay out of my house!
Contact your Senator and tell them to vote this down or you’ll vote them out.
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Can the OP or anybody else point me to the exact section in the bill where this audit is located?

I believe you but just want to verify for myself.


Here is the bill.
[link to www.govtrack.us]
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this site is helpful but heres the excerpt
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Clean Energy and Security Act brings auditors into your home

Home Audit: A Look into the Future
The bill states every home owner will receive an energy audit. What is a home energy audit? It is an intrusive visit made by the bureaucrats at the Home Energy Team or a similar group. They will examine and report the way you live your life directly to RESNET (Residential Energy Services Network) . Light fixtures, socket types, spas, hot tubs, windows, appliances, walls and roofs will all be under review. Energy tests will be conducted throughout your house. At the end of the visit you will receive a report and a rating. The report will focus on the changes you need to make and the rating is called a HERS rating (Home Energy Rating System). RESNET will perform the audits through authorized contractors. RESNET has adopted the Mortgage Industry National Home Energy Rating Standards. The standards set the national procedures for home energy ratings.

According to RESNET, an audit consists of:
Comprehensive Home Energy Audit - A level of the RESNET Home Energy Audit process defined by this standard to include the evaluation, diagnosis and proposed treatment of an existing home. The Comprehensive Home Energy Audit may be based on a Home Performance Assessment (“Comprehensive Home Performance Energy Audit”) or Home Energy Rating (“Comprehensive HERS Audit”), in accordance with the criteria established by this Standard. A homeowner may elect to go through this process with or without a prior Home Energy Survey or Diagnostic Home Energy Survey.

Here is an in-depth breakdown of the audit:
[link to www.natresnet.org]


704.1.2.3 The Home Energy Survey Professional shall request copies of utility bills or
written permission to obtain the energy use information from the utility company, and use
them to produce an estimate of generalized end-uses (base, heating, and cooling).
704.1.2.5. Minimum Procedures for an In-Home Energy Survey:
704.1.2.5.1.1 R-values of wall/ceiling/floor insulation
704.1.2.5.1.2 Square footage and approximate age of home
704.1.2.5.1.3 Type of windows: glazing type(s) and frame material(s)
704.1.2.5.1.4 Type, model number, and location of heating/cooling system(s)
704.1.2.5.1.5 Type of ductwork, location and R-value of duct insulation, and any
indications of previous duct sealing
704.1.2.5.1.6 Type of foundation is crawl, basement, or slab
704.1.2.5.1.7 Checklist of common air-leakage sites indicating likely opportunities
for leakage reduction
704.1.2.5.1.8 Estimated age and efficiency of major appliances such as
dishwashers, refrigerators, freezers, washing machines and dryers
704.1.2.5.1.9 Number and type of hardwired light fixtures and screw-in bulbs in
portable lamps suitable for energy efficient re-lamping
704.1.2.5.1.10 Visual indications of condensation
704.1.2.5.1.11 Presence and location of exhaust fans, and determination of whether
they are vented outdoors
704.1.2.5.1.12 Number and type of water fixtures (e.g. faucets, showerheads)
704.1.2.5.1.13 Presence and type(s) of combustion equipment; identification of
visually identifiable evidence of flame rollout, blocked chimney, and corroded or
missing vent connector.
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i've beensaying this....even before obooboo was elected he was gonna do this...and watch for the "youth nazis" [serve america] to show up and do these "green inspections"...now....how many homes will be CONDEMNED by the little nazis"......i bet these greenie nazis will monitor ur every move and u will be "counciled" for been wasteful...

this is just one of the things that is going severely piss off the middle class...

and there is more stupid shit like this to follow...
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i am all for energy audits...home business or otherwise...but not mandatory...

should only be voluntary and if you decide to make the changes recommended by the audit and you get a rebate in doing so or a tax break...then ok


I agree, VOLUNTARY energy audits are an excellent way to reduce utility bills.

People with older homes are going to get hammered by mandatory audits.
 Quoting: von doom 693999


This isn't about reducing anyone's utility bills.

It's about intimidation and control.

Just like everything else these shitheads have been doing.
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i am all for energy audits...home business or otherwise...but not mandatory...

should only be voluntary and if you decide to make the changes recommended by the audit and you get a rebate in doing so or a tax break...then ok


I agree, VOLUNTARY energy audits are an excellent way to reduce utility bills.

People with older homes are going to get hammered by mandatory audits.


This isn't about reducing anyone's utility bills.

It's about intimidation and control.

Just like everything else these shitheads have been doing.
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oh its MORE than that hun. this is the mutha of all ass rapes.
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over there dead bodies. greenies make good fertilizer after they compost a while.
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over there dead bodies. greenies make good fertilizer after they compost a while.
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yea well til then the shit keeps getting deeper and deeper.
political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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from another forum - feedback doesnt look good

Tom Says:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:21 pm

I am 73 years old. I can’t afford these illegal fines. I can’;t afford all of the upgrades that they will demand. I can’t afford to change my lifestyle of self sufficiency to satisfy this beast. I can’t afford to allow them to remove any security that I have in place for my household protection. All that is left for me to do is face them down and say no. The end result of this being their choice. Perhaps if we trade them out one or two of them for one of us they will eventually go play somewhere else. I think that we are so far gone now that there is no point in worrying the legal points. The illegality of doing these inspections is far beyond anything that we as individuals would consider. I have dealt with ignorant bureaucratic servants before and I have found the best way if possible is ignore them and do what you need to do
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There will be many casas that burn to the ground....
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There will be many casas that burn to the ground....
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riots first. then the burning of 'their homes' second.

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