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Roswell debunked?

 
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Roswell debunked?
I just read this short story by Nick Redfern.

Yes we are familiar with the relatively recent weather balloon cover story which we all blew off. However, something may have been left out of that weather balloon story which blew me away.

Here is a brief excerpt:

"....The Roswell Incident was, in reality, one of 7 or 8 distinctly ill-fated experiments that had taken place in New Mexico at the time. They were said to have involved human guinea-pigs in a whole range of secret, balloon-based flights, including (a) high altitude exposure tests, and (b) similar tests to try and determine how the human body might be affected by cosmic ray exposure at high altitudes."

"....Those involved in the experiments were not brave volunteers, seeking to further extend the boundaries of science ....rather they were for the most part (a) Japanese prisoners of war; and (b) physically and mentally handicapped people secretly (and outrageously) removed from asylums and hospitals against their wills..."


Whoa.

I did a quick search here on glp and didn't find this info.

The UFO community does not like this according to the author.

The author references "old timers" from intelligence agencies, etc. for his info.

I find this fascinating. Wouldn't surprise me at all.

This is a short story based on his book Body Snatchers...

Wanted to share this info with all the alien watchers here.



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Re: Roswell debunked?
That material is from the book "Body snatchers in the Desert" by Nick Redfern. It's an interesting read but I can't help wondering if it's just more disinformation because the so-called "source" for this info is hidden and unnamed.

The whole Roswell business is an industry that was manufactured by the UFO researchers themselves. It's very profitable one. Something probably did happen at Roswell but was awfully mundane and appeared bizarre to whoever witnessed it.
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Re: Roswell debunked?
That material is from the book "Body snatchers in the Desert" by Nick Redfern. It's an interesting read but I can't help wondering if it's just more disinformation because the so-called "source" for this info is hidden and unnamed.

The whole Roswell business is an industry that was manufactured by the UFO researchers themselves. It's very profitable one. Something probably did happen at Roswell but was awfully mundane and appeared bizarre to whoever witnessed it.
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Hey thanks for chiming in AC. Yes that's the book he refers to.

Of course it's all fascinating but we take it with a grain of salt. Like you said, there is an industry built around Roswell, just like 2012 in our times.

Yet something did happen, didn't it? And I've seen two UFO's in my lifetime (nothing like Roswell) but strange enough..

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Re: Roswell debunked?
Interesting. I have access to some unpublished channelings from various "ETs" including Sirians and Pleaidians. The one thing that was channeled, based on a question of "Was Roswell a real 'ET' crash?" the response was, paraphrased, "No. None of our Space Brothers or Sisters 'crashed' in the 1947." Their definition of "Space Brothers" is pretty broad, so this definition would include the "Greys" as well.

Of all the "out there" stuff they have channeled, this is the one thing that I have a hard time believing.

Of course this does not rule out other reasons, including a crash of a domestic UFO or NAZI 'Bell' type craft. I would hope that an ET would have access to better records than "we" would...

On the other hand, the same question asked about the Aurora crash in the late 1800's in Texas, the answer was a "Yes".
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I remember on the anniversary (50 years)getting a copy on my desk of the official report...it was a BOOK and I still thought they were nuts for always changing their story.

This is something new to me with the prisoners however. The thing that never sat right with me aside from the balloon and crash test dummies was the AF letting the information out in the first place...actual mistake or deliberate mistake?

After the whole Ray Santilli thing, I have left Roswell alone for quite awhile. It was recently while sitting in a burger king that I saw an older man with a laptop come in order something and sit down to do some work. He was wearing a t-shirt that said Air Force - 1947 or something. I thought that was odd and wondered just how much they may have screwed up their own testing. That lead me to start thinking maybe there was three things going on this whole time..there were tests and new technology and there was a crash from something we didn't quite have the technology for yet.
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"....The Roswell Incident was, in reality, one of 7 or 8 distinctly ill-fated experiments that had taken place in New Mexico at the time. They were said to have involved human guinea-pigs in a whole range of secret, balloon-based flights, including (a) high altitude exposure tests, and (b) similar tests to try and determine how the human body might be affected by cosmic ray exposure at high altitudes."

 Quoting: hardboiledheretic


The balloon flights were NOT manned, AND didn't occur until about 5 years AFTER the Roswell (Should be called the Corona incident).


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Re: Roswell debunked?
Interesting. I have access to some unpublished channelings

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Channeling is TOTAL garbage.



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07/05/2009 06:51 AM
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Re: Roswell debunked?
would not surprise me if it was true.
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Re: Roswell debunked?
Nick Redfern's theory has been completely discredited for a number of reasons, one of which was given above. Just do some further study. Google is your friend.
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Re: Roswell debunked?
Nick Redfern's theory has been completely discredited for a number of reasons, one of which was given above. Just do some further study. Google is your friend

Not really you can never tell whats information and whats misinforation using the web.
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Re: Roswell debunked?
Nick Redfern's theory has been completely discredited for a number of reasons, one of which was given above. Just do some further study. Google is your friend.
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True. Fact is there is more evidence that something more advanced than us crashed in New Mexico in 1947 than Vaccines being a plot to kill you, the CIA assassinating JFK, 9/11 being an inside job or Obama being born anywhere except the state of Hawaii. Proof is to be taken without bias to one's predawn conclusion. All the pieces point to the story the Air Force originally released. They've only changed it 6(?) times now...
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Re: Roswell debunked?
Hmmm....

More dis-info or possible the real truth?
Either conclusion wouldn't surprise me/





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