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NASA ...Show Me The Lunar Rover Tracks !!!

 
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Everybody who says yes to any of these questions must be part of the Bielefeld Conspiracy!!!
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Who gives a fuck about Bielefeld except if a huge amount of money from the citizens goes to them to fake space missions. I can't find anything brainwashing from Bielefeld, but with Nasa I can see brain damaged shills everything truth is posted.
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Here you go, rover tracks:

[link to planetary.org]
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LOL
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Here you go, rover tracks:

[link to planetary.org]



LOL
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haha yupp .... yesterday that was footprints btw :)
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check out the rotation on the vid from 0:19 to 0:22. It comes to an ubrupt stop. No slowing down nothing. The laws of physics are overwhelmed once again. NASA is amazing....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 697653


And compare with a real rendezvous of shuttle and ISS.
The rendezvous I posted is Apollo 11 and it looks like Kubricks movie. In fact Kubrick was probably the one at charge (they after created that documentary of him doing it with his wife and all these rummsfeld, etc).
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Funny thing about footage from the moon. With the low gravity there wasn't any dust swirling about the astronauts feet or while the lunar rover was being driven. What gives... The whole thing was staged and they know it.
 Quoting: Floyd007


Proving it was an airless environment, as dust falls very quickly in a vacuum. You can see it in the movies of the rovers - watch the PERFECT dust parabolas off the wheels. Impossible to fake on earth.

Thanks for providing one of the often overlooked proofs of the mission.
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The dust devils blew them away.
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07/19/2009 08:09 AM
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For you. (Yes I know you are not going to see nothing wrong, so consider it for your subconscient and in some years perhaps your conscience can start to wonder)




I'm guessing you don't think the LEM's movements looked natural?
 Quoting: The Guy

That NASA video of what is meant to be Apollo 11 docking with the Command Module is some crazy shit. There is a lot of places in the video where there is constant movement, then a sudden stop, no slowing down at all. It shows that these were small models used, and that they were fixed on an external object.
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Funny thing about footage from the moon. With the low gravity there wasn't any dust swirling about the astronauts feet or while the lunar rover was being driven. What gives... The whole thing was staged and they know it.


Proving it was an airless environment, as dust falls very quickly in a vacuum. You can see it in the movies of the rovers - watch the PERFECT dust parabolas off the wheels. Impossible to fake on earth.

Thanks for providing one of the often overlooked proofs of the mission.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 729276

its a good example of why the controversy will remain. The moon deniers simply are too dumb to analyse any "proof" put before them. Their inbuilt predjudice wil lead them to the wrong conclusion everytime.

BTW the lack of swirling dust really does prove it was filmed in a vacuum. I suppose that doesnt 100% prove it was filmed on the moon ( as they could have had a massive vacuum chamber), but then that directly conflicts with the other "proof" the deniers have (such as a waving flag etc). They want it both ways.
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That NASA video of what is meant to be Apollo 11 docking with the Command Module is some crazy shit. There is a lot of places in the video where there is constant movement, then a sudden stop, no slowing down at all. It shows that these were small models used, and that they were fixed on an external object.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 439828


Gee, just like a bunch of physicists to miss something like that, huh?

Seriously, the LEM (minus the legs, of course) only weighed about five tons (mass of 4,600kg), and was radially symmetrical. It wouldn't take much to spin it, or to stop it from spinning, very quickly.
It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out.
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Petty dam good simulation here.
[link to www.youtube.com]

Now I wonder, why this test site or stage, looks so much like the so called real video of these missions.

Don't get me wrong, I think we went to the moon alright, just not like they showed us all.
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Petty dam good simulation here.
[link to www.youtube.com]

Now I wonder, why this test site or stage, looks so much like the so called real video of these missions.

Don't get me wrong, I think we went to the moon alright, just not like they showed us all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 435072

They had photos taken by robot landers to work from.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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What matters is WHAT CAN YOU PROOF?
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NASA is making the extraordinary claim; NASA must supply the corresponding extraordinary proof.
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NASA is making the extraordinary claim; NASA must supply the corresponding extraordinary proof.
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They took pictures, and brought back rocks.
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Pictures and rocks are "extraordinary proof"?

LOL.

I guess having a piece of cheese in my fridge is proof that I, too, have been to the moon.
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NASA = never a sincere answer
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
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NASA is making the extraordinary claim; NASA must supply the corresponding extraordinary proof.


They took pictures, and brought back rocks.
 Quoting: The Guy




A machine could have brought back the rocks. The pics could be faked easily.


Thread: Who can explain the science behind the ASTRONAUT'S SPACE SUITS?

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Pictures and rocks are "extraordinary proof"?

LOL.

I guess having a piece of cheese in my fridge is proof that I, too, have been to the moon.
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If you claim they're bogus, then you'd need to present evidence for that.
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They took pictures, and brought back rocks.
 Quoting: The Guy

The pictures look fake, and the rocks are all too much like earth rocks--so similar, in fact, that NASA and the geological community have been arguing for decades as to what is or is not a moon rock:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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From the 1950s through the 1990s, NASA aerodynamicist Dean R. Chapman and others advanced the "lunar origin" theory of tektites.
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O'Keefe [of NASA] suggested explosive, hydrogen-driven lunar volcanoes as the original source of tektites.
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Regardless, O'Keefe said that "If 14425 was found in Antarctica instead of Fra Mauro (on the Moon), it would probably have been accepted as a tektite."
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In other words, "moon rocks" look a lot like the product of hydrogen bomb explosions. Of course, only the military-industrial-intelligence complex has access to hydrogen bomb explosions, so the geological community has no way to compare the products of such explosions against the "moon rocks."
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If you claim they're bogus, then you'd need to present evidence for that.
 Quoting: The Guy

Sorry, re-take Science 101.

Anyone can say, "I flew to the moon 6 times, and here are the photos and rocks to 'prove' it." Science requires independent reproducibility; history requires independent confirmation; and the legal system requires sworn testimony as to provenance.

If you can persuade Neil Armstrong to testify under oath and cross-examination of his alleged moon rock collection, let us know.
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That NASA video of what is meant to be Apollo 11 docking with the Command Module is some crazy shit. There is a lot of places in the video where there is constant movement, then a sudden stop, no slowing down at all. It shows that these were small models used, and that they were fixed on an external object.


Gee, just like a bunch of physicists to miss something like that, huh?

Seriously, the LEM (minus the legs, of course) only weighed about five tons (mass of 4,600kg), and was radially symmetrical. It wouldn't take much to spin it, or to stop it from spinning, very quickly.
 Quoting: The Guy

But a sudden full stop, with no slowing down, how does that happen in the deep vacuum of space?
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If you claim they're bogus, then you'd need to present evidence for that.

Sorry, re-take Science 101.

Anyone can say, "I flew to the moon 6 times, and here are the photos and rocks to 'prove' it." Science requires independent reproducibility; history requires independent confirmation; and the legal system requires sworn testimony as to provenance.

If you can persuade Neil Armstrong to testify under oath and cross-examination of his alleged moon rock collection, let us know.
 Quoting: Skeptic the First 725789


Well, the moon landings are part of history. Independent confirmation, huh? How about tracking from multiple international tracking stations? Oh, wait, they were all "in on it," right?
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But a sudden full stop, with no slowing down, how does that happen in the deep vacuum of space?
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With a relatively light, radially symmetrical mass and a quick RCS burn.
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its a good example of why the controversy will remain. The moon deniers simply are too dumb to analyse any "proof" put before them. Their inbuilt predjudice wil lead them to the wrong conclusion everytime.

BTW the lack of swirling dust really does prove it was filmed in a vacuum. I suppose that doesnt 100% prove it was filmed on the moon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 704903


Show me a video where the lack of dust demonstrates that is the Moon and I will post some competition videos of motos running in ground throwing ground but without dust (perhaps the competition is in the fucking Moon?).
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Seriously, the LEM (minus the legs, of course) only weighed about five tons (mass of 4,600kg), and was radially symmetrical. It wouldn't take much to spin it, or to stop it from spinning, very quickly.
 Quoting: The Guy


It is MANNED mission. There is not a computer calculating the exact miliseconds a rocket must be firing to stop in such a way. Now look to the videos where Armstrongs flies here in Earth a "lunar module lander" and search for such stop motions. Also MUST I POST LINKS TO VIDEOS WHERE YOU SEE THE RENDEZVOUS BETWEEN SHUTTLE AND ISS ??? What you want, an official communicate of Nasa saying that rendezvous is the worst thing ever they made in the entire HOAX???????
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Show me a video where the lack of dust demonstrates that is the Moon and I will post some competition videos of motos running in ground throwing ground but without dust (perhaps the competition is in the fucking Moon?).
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Dude, the dirt in motorcross racing is wet down before the race.
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It is MANNED mission. There is not a computer calculating the exact miliseconds a rocket must be firing to stop in such a way. Now look to the videos where Armstrongs flies here in Earth a "lunar module lander" and search for such stop motions. Also MUST I POST LINKS TO VIDEOS WHERE YOU SEE THE RENDEZVOUS BETWEEN SHUTTLE AND ISS ??? What you want, an official communicate of Nasa saying that rendezvous is the worst thing ever they made in the entire HOAX???????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725590


Well, lets compare masses, shall we?

LM ascent stage: 4,670kg
Space shuttle: 78,000kg empty, usually closer to 100,000kg

Can you see how the shuttle might have just a bit more momentum?
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NASA is making the extraordinary claim; NASA must supply the corresponding extraordinary proof.


They took pictures, and brought back rocks.
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I have a documentary where they say how every rock they found can be found in Earth and you can see Armstrong and Aldrin collecting these rocks to after be able to recognize them in the Moon. The difference between the rocks collected in the Moon and the ones of Earth are the micrometeorites. And that as I am tired of telling here in GLP is where your linear accelerator or circular accelerator or who knows what they did is used to create the microimpacts. And of course probably in only some pieces not in the entire kilos, just one to show in some publication and it is all.
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NASA = never a sincere answer
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Never a Straight Answer.

ST in BG is the one that created this phrase. I hope greys are not the bad guys but I don't think they are our friends. Interesting future we will have to live indeed.
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Pictures and rocks are "extraordinary proof"?

LOL.

I guess having a piece of cheese in my fridge is proof that I, too, have been to the moon.


If you claim they're bogus, then you'd need to present evidence for that.
 Quoting: The Guy


I have some rock from Mars, some of Venus and some of Mars. I can sell you to a low price. What you need as proof of autenticity? How you know a rock is from Mars or Venus? Microimpacts? Do you believe NASA is unable to create microimpacts?
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NASA = never a sincere answer


Never a Straight Answer.

ST in BG is the one that created this phrase. I hope greys are not the bad guys but I don't think they are our friends. Interesting future we will have to live indeed.
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I saw it long before TG in BS said this lol, I just altered it a little cause they lie lie lie ...

I agree, our future will bring surprises ...
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...





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