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Woman charged $4500 by Pennsylvania for back CIGARETTE TAXES

 
Anonymous Coward
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07/19/2009 01:55 PM
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Woman charged $4500 by Pennsylvania for back CIGARETTE TAXES
You've got to be shitting me?!!!

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One 82-year old lady in Pennsylvania, for example, had a $4,583 lien slapped on her house, as a result of her apparently extensive purchases of cigarettes from an Indian tribe in neighboring New York. Although an official with Pennsylvania’s revenue department was quoted as saying the state’s primary focus in using liens to collect monies from cigarette-tax scofflaws was to “educate” citizens about their tax responsibilities, the lure of additional tax revenues in tough economic times obviously trumps any kindly “educational” purpose.
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07/19/2009 02:37 PM
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That's just our awesome government "for the people" hard at work. God I love them!
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07/19/2009 02:39 PM
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" THANK YOU SIR MAY I HAVE ANOTHER?"
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07/19/2009 02:41 PM
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We need the money so we can get a budget:) state workers arent being paid ATM.....except the people who collect back taxes on indian ciggs I guess.
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07/19/2009 02:42 PM
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laugh
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07/19/2009 03:00 PM
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It would be good to know which credit card company fucked her over.
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07/19/2009 03:01 PM
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i think she may able to argue from the legal precedent of .

a citizen may arrange his/her affairs to pay the least amount of taxes possible to the .gov

check out learned hand for rullings on stuff like this
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07/19/2009 03:03 PM
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It would be good to know which credit card company fucked her over.
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was just thinking that!
bump
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07/19/2009 03:04 PM
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Can we please just riot and get these taxing thieves out of washington already?
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07/19/2009 03:04 PM
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She should ignore it. Fuck the government with their wasteful spending.
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07/19/2009 03:27 PM
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It would be good to know which credit card company fucked her over.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 729086


Someone find this out PLEASE!!!
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She should ignore it. Fuck the government with their wasteful spending.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 729019

sure she can ignore it...when she dies...the state will take the lien money before anyone can clear the title to sell her house..
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07/19/2009 04:19 PM
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Here's another expample of catering to big business...

The record industry has successfully sued a single mother $1.92 million for downloading 24 songs. She must pay $80,000 per song.

The record industry also wants to ban her from using the Internet.

[link to wcco.com]
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07/19/2009 04:19 PM
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Lesson here is DON'T PAY BY CREDIT CARD.
Pay by cash because it cant be tracked.
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Can we please just riot and get these taxing thieves out of washington already?

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That's why they are targeting the little old ladies
and single mothers... not riot prone.


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Anonymous Coward
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07/19/2009 04:25 PM
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What you need to see here, is that these events are just a variation of the Ruby Ridge and Waco incidents.
TPTB doing its power play and making sure that it all gets plenty of press.
Object - to intimidate the sheeple.
Anonymous Coward
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07/19/2009 04:27 PM
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All you have to do is hold up a green "dollar" and ask "What is this" ..

everything they say can and will be used against them
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07/19/2009 04:28 PM
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I think its time our government found another group of people to tax and humiliate besides smokers...how about people who drive black vehicles next? Makes sense to me since they say driving darker vehicles contributes to global warming..

Yeah thats it!!

Then THEY can put up with a penalty for driving a dark colored car..and cant sit in restaurants, unless its in a specified location (OH wait ! ya cant even do that anymore thats right) or cant have a job if you smoke, or cant find a place to live because people who own the rentals dont want to rent to you, or pay over 200 percent more for something you like to do because the government doesnt think you should do it..or with Obama's new HEALTH CARE bill people which is supposed to be for everyone who cant afford it...well if you smoke you have to pay a higher premium than non smokers..in fact they havent stated how much higher yet your premium, under the new health care system, will be..could it be so high that you cant afford health care???
Opps!! guess if you smoke you might as well go out and commit suicide because you arent gonna get the new health care cause you probably wont be able to afford it !!
How much more plain does it have to be before people see that our government is singling out a group of people as dirty and loathsome to the general public..that is in itself unconstitutional we are having our rights taken away because we smoke..!!
And its all for money..so the government can make more money to help the rest of the country out ..so next time you see a smoker ..instead of spitting on them..(which happened to me recently) ..thank them for helping pay for the federal debt among other things..
Im sure as they stand in the pouring rain outside a posh restaurant or walk home dejectedly after being turned down for another job because he smoked or gets a call from the 48th real estate broker they called saying, "I'm sorry ..we have no rentals for smokers" and goes back to live in his car another day...or the girl he liked wouldnt even go out with him because he smoked ..im sure that guy will be real understanding he will probably wave,shake his head and walk away..after all hes an AMERICAN !!
Anonymous Coward
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07/19/2009 04:45 PM
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Also, I would like to add..

Tobacco has been in use for thousands of years, it wasnt until the cigarette companies started putting filters on cigarettes made from fiberglass and putting additives in
the tobacco that people started getting sick..thats not to mention the fact that inhaling gasoline fumes when you fill up your car doesnt help much either or breathing polluted air in cities or living in areas where radon gas is invisibly seeping up through the ground into your house...all these things can also cause lung cancer..smoking may not be all that healthy for you but i do not believe it is the evil that our government wants you to believe it is either..its just a scapegoat for new ways to make money from people doing something they want to do.
I would quit smoking if i wanted to and when i want to but i will be damned if i will quit because i am forced to by corrupt politicians out to ruin AMERICA!!
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I think its time our government found another group of people to tax and humiliate besides smokers...how about people who drive black vehicles next?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 695049


Typical, only the black cars huh!? Racist!
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I think its time our government found another group of people to tax and humiliate besides smokers...how about people who drive black vehicles next?


Typical, only the black cars huh!? Racist!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 727479


Tell that to the federal government its their idea not mine.
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They'll find a way to get your retirement money.
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What you need to see here, is that these events are just a variation of the Ruby Ridge and Waco incidents.
TPTB doing its power play and making sure that it all gets plenty of press.
Object - to intimidate the sheeple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 684295



Uhhh....yeah. Let's see....:

Little old lady guilty of buying cigarettes over the border.

Child raping cult leader and his psychotic followers with loads of guns.

Fundamentalist Nazi white supremacist holed up in the mountains.

Lots of similarities there!!
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It would be good to know which credit card company fucked her over.


Someone find this out PLEASE!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 729601



The Indians turned her in.
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Jesus H Christ! What a bunch of bullshit!!!
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I think its time our government found another group of people to tax and humiliate besides smokers...how about people who drive black vehicles next?


Typical, only the black cars huh!? Racist!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 727479

not realy:
California to reduce carbon emissions by... banning black cars?!
[link to www.autoblog.com]
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07/19/2009 05:20 PM
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another good reason to use cash only.
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07/19/2009 05:20 PM
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Lesson here is DON'T PAY BY CREDIT CARD.
Pay by cash because it cant be tracked.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 633528

And that, my friend, is why they are trying to do away with cash.
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Re: Woman charged $4500 by Pennsylvania for back CIGARETTE TAXES
What you need to see here, is that these events are just a variation of the Ruby Ridge and Waco incidents.
TPTB doing its power play and making sure that it all gets plenty of press.
Object - to intimidate the sheeple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 684295


I don't think it is to intimidate... IMO, it is designed to incite.

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Re: Woman charged $4500 by Pennsylvania for back CIGARETTE TAXES
The 2nd Plank of the Communist Manifesto calls for;
"A heavy progressive or graduated income tax."
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07/19/2009 06:59 PM
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The 2nd Plank of the Communist Manifesto calls for;
"A heavy progressive or graduated income tax."
 Quoting: Cranky


FIXED IT.


The 2nd Plank of the Communist Manifesto calls for;
"A heavy progressive or graduated OBAMA 75% income tax."
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